Fan's Take: Evaluating Jerry Reese - A Rebuttal

As you mentioned, its been reese and newsome who has been the only ones that have been able to find steals in many rounds of the draft with limited draft picks.

Two way street with Brady. They developed him and were smart enough to see what they had and committed to him right away. He’s a great coach. A human sponge that takes all the best of other coaches and implements it into his system.

then to be good

Maybe I read this wrong but idt all of the Eagles success is luck. Many teams would love to have our FO.

Apologies if I read this wrong

well looking at how many people commented on the first post and how this one looks so far… I would say alot of people care

Can you imagine him and TC in the same locker room. No thanks. TO is having money problems that’s why he still plays don’t want him anywhere near the Giants.

Unfortunately that counts.

Koets..i had either in the back up category or the injured category I went with injured because I’d rather play it more pessimistically

Was Bill Walsh really wanted Phill Simms, and when the Giants took him, he settled for Joe.

From what I’ve noticed as well, many poor teams also bring in FAs that often win the jobs, and these don’t account for those…which results in their draft picks being cut (thereby those poorer teams having a lower score)

This is most certainly not refined, and I’ll certainly try and think of ways to improve it.

Still, though, I didn’t want to reward the GM and give a slight penalty (in case of drafting injury prone peeps)

He is really a prodigy of Geroge Young, mentored by Ernie Accorsi. His drafting is a lot more George Young Style than Accoris’s. he does not trade a lot and drafts BPA; that’s George Young’s style, fustrating yes, but it has proven results.

god mobile commneting sux. Internet on comp is crappin out

I’ll do their figures later on today.

as far as the bias…I think there’s a bias on not just the Pats, but rather, teams with high amounts of draft picks in general. The reasoning for this is I wanted to focus more on the scouting and research aspect…who can take their draft picks, and get the most quality out of them. The Pats and Eagles approach works too….amass a large amount of draft picks and then take fliers on a bunch of peeps and see who stick…but (and this my bias), I don’t see the refinement in that.

As far as the injury scores go, I haven’t found a way to refine that bit. I sort of stuck them in slots where I thought they should be…however, I know that that is an imperfect solution because they must be treated differently.

As far as the league average…I’ll see what I can do, it took me close to 20 minutes per team to get a figure. Also, it would be my perspective on how these players would be slotted. I might try and do a few more to get a larger sample size over the next day or two though.

Anybody could do their own analysis of a team as well…they have all the parameters…all they’d need to do is slot each player in one of the categories and add.

Thanks for the advice, though…much appreciated.

are not the idea, though. He trades out of the first round precisely because he’d rather diversify the risk and get more versatile role players who fit his system.

Even last year, look at what he did with the 2 rookie tight ends. That’s smart drafting in my book.

Do the Pats have flaws? Yeah. But the trade off is BB has them in contention every single year with no dropoffs. And the Brady thing is overblown, because they were, what, 11-5 with Matt Cassel?

As well as trades.
The Trade for Reynaud and Sage probably would receive a negative score.

is complicated. Look at Ochocinco right now. His head is spinning.

And it does count for who you draft.

The Pats cut/get rid of players that have a crap attitude. Not anybody can play for them. You are making it sound like that other teams are so good that they can turn someone like Dillard into a Ray Lewis.

That’s just silly.

The players drafted are mostly raw materials. It is up to the coaching staff to get the most out of this talent. There is also the onus on the player to adapt and improve.

Sometimes you see draft “busts” flourish with another team after washing out with the team that drafted him due to coaching/scheme issues.

This isn’t Duke Basketball.

Proffesional players that play at a pro level are expected to know and learn all skills that are required of them at that position. Rarely is there a complete player drafted and does everything even at average. You have no idea if that player will develop until you develop them.

Sintim’s problem were his injuries which hampered his development. He could have very well learned to be an OLB in a 4-3.

And press corners in college would be called for pass interference in the pros. Completely different rules. That is a knock against Prince.

You’d definitely consider Trent Cole or Ahmad Bradshaw as grand theft draft picks. GMs should be rewarded for that. At the same time, its is expected that 1st rounders are solid starters or better. If not, you basically are punished with marginal gain.

I have not figured out how to factor in draft day trades, though you are right, it does make an impact. The system is designed for only relating draft pick success to where they were drafted.

as well as connecting on all of their 1st round picks and most of their 2nd rounders.

Parker was making a ton of money up until recently. But I guess you can say that was our old GM. but still

And the Giants did not fare the best. Both Pittsburgh and Baltimore beat them out, and if you actually paid attention, I admitted that this was slightly biased against teams with a large amount of draft picks. The Eagles fared slightly worse than the Giants, mostly because you guys had a larger amount of draft choices that you had to cut. I also admitted several times that this was subjective and not perfect.

Nor did I say this was an evaluation of the GMs OVERALL, just how well they were drafted. This DOES NOT include contracts, draft trades, or free agent signings.

C’mon Joe D, you’re better than that to put me on blast without even reading it properly.

I fully realize this isn’t all that makes a GM.

I don’t have the time to read every comment so apologies if I am repeating but…

Without the ten points assigned to Ahmad Bradshaw, Reese’s rating would fall to .644. Should one 7th round pick really propel him into the category of New England, Baltimore, etc. Not to say Reese isn’t in that category, I am just not sure I like the way he got their in this formula. Also, I think their is alot of subjectivity in applying the category they fall into… so if I only ranked Bradshaw as a solid starter, then Reese’s rating would fall to .816, which would be below the other GM’s rankings.

A for effort. But I don’t think the original statistic/measurement works.

Bryan Kehl would be between a starter and key backup for the Rams, but in this exercise, he was cut, so we lose points even though he’s a good player because he didn’t produce for US.

For the Eagles, I measured the same way I did the Giants…draftees and my best guesstimates on how they turned out for the Eagles. This was not meant to be an analysis on how efficient a FO is, just how well they do drafting players.

we’ll get compensatory picks for these guys. But they were UFAs that we fully expected to resign until some freakish stuff happened.