Eli Manning 16th In Week 1 Quarterback Rating
by Ed Valentine on Sep 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT
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Sunday's performance by New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning felt like a decidedly middle of the road, ho-hum, effort. Nothing great, but nothing horrible either.
ESPN's new Quarterback Rating agrees. On a QBR scale of 0-100, on which 50 is average, Manning's 18-for-32, 268-yard, one interception effort earned a 53.6. That placed Manning 16th out of the 33 quarterbacks who were graded.
Not sure I will do this every week, but I thought it would be interesting to check in on the new rating system. I will do this at least occasionally throughout the season. Here is a full explanation of how the system works.
Interesting notes from Week 1's QBR. Tom Brady's 517-yard performance Monday night only landed him third behind Ryan Fitzpatrick of Buffalo and Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay.
On the bottom of the scale, Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger was 32nd and Kerry Collins of Indianapolis was dead last. Do you get the feeling Collins may end up wishing he stayed retired?
By the way, Mark Sanchez of the Jets placed 30th with a 17.6, and the Jets still won.
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I guess brady's pick knocked him down to 3rd
A told B and B told C, "I'll meet you at the top of the coconut tree."
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 13, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Exactly...
Why is there not a system that takes into account who is at fault for the INT. Eli certainly wasn’t at fault for his. Beatty clearly missed his block. Also what nobody seemed to have ever mentioned, if Nicks didn’t have the false start a play earlier (a bonehead mistake) on 2nd & 6, that play never would have happened. I think Brady’s INT was actually more his fault. He threw out to the flat into double coverage.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 13, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Still learning things about the new system
and appreciate you posting it.
Funny thing NY media was killing Eli after W1 and praising Sanchez and his 335 yds against a anally raped secondary.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
sounds about right
average at best on sunday but there was alot worse from other guys on sunday…. cough cough Ben… cough cough
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds right to me
Eli neither killed us or no stepped up
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
+1
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 13, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty much a statement
for the whole team. They will get better.
Or I will continue having acid reflux
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I have found
that if I don’t eat popcorn with the beer, acid reflux is eliminated. Beer ONLY, my friend.
Eli
didnt do enough to put us in position to win a game we should lose.
by GMen56-11 on Sep 13, 2011 1:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Regressing
Eli is regressing, completion percentage is lower, do not throw the ball downfield enough, becoming a dink and dunk passer, too predictable. Probably KG has something to do with it..
He is being passed by younger talent. Just see regression.
by GiantFaninColorado on Sep 13, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't put all the blame on Eli for not stepping up
He needs A.) protection from his line, B.) receivers to get open, C.) decent plays drawn up by his OC. Even the few times Brady was hurried last night, you saw him make some really poor throws. Difference is, most of the night, Brady’s protection was disgustingly good. The guy just stands straight up in the pocket and delivers darts. He never worries about getting hit. But also kudos to him… he makes quick decisions and fires accurate passes. I don’t think Eli is as good with making decisions or throwing accuracy, but we’ve seen with good protection he can be pretty good.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 13, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I not putting all the blame on Eli
but with this offense and team he needs to be the top 5 QB he claims to be. I just do not see any progression only regression ie another pick 6, whether it was a great defensive play or not he is throwing a short pass on third and long and the Skins score 6. It happens too much. Remember Rogers lost his receivers last year and he kept winning. I Eli is top 5 QB he has to win with what he has, and audible out of KG lousy plays. It is make or break for Eli this year and don’t see it happening. Sorry.
by GiantFaninColorado on Sep 13, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
also
why is Romo so high? Looking at the ESPN footnotes on how this sysytem works, the word ‘Clutch’ was used alot. Since when has that word been used for Romo?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah I'm not all that familiar with their weighting system
But, throwing an interception and fumbling away a 14 point lead late in the 4th quarter seems pretty opposite of clutch to me.
Also, McNabb threw for 39 yards. 39!
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, McNabb gets a big lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Worse than that
7 for 15
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Just lol for Mcnabb
I still don’t like him for when he ran into the Giants bench and picked up the phone. Poetic Justice if you ask me. 39 yrds hahahahahahahhahahahah
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Was there for that
Was hoping someone would take his head off
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
& that had nothing to do with poor blocking
poor running, poor penalties, poor defense, or anything else.
@ It was ALL ELI’s FAULT.@
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
In his defense
he was playing amazing the first 3 quarters. Granziano (or whatever his name is) said Romo had like the 3 or 4th best rating for the just the first 3 quarters, than his fourth quarter tanked his grade
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Mark Sanchez, Not March Sanchez.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald
Typical spot for Eli.
Passing league and we don’t have a passing o-line or a QB who can take the blitz all that well without throwing off his back foot.
Jerry Reese is a top flight GM
you can’t blame him for that
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
eli needs time
They knew this when they drafted him. He will stand strong in the pocket and make the play. Sunday he had no pocket to speak of in the second half. Once gilbrite abandon the run it was all over.
by hit_hard on Sep 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would love
for Eli to have as much time as Brady had last night. He could’ve ordered a pizza every time he stood in the pocket and still complete a pass.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
It does seem
that all great quarterback play coincides with great O-line play.
yes, when they play well
when they don’t? no. (this past sunday)
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
I am in the
hope they will gel and get better stage. I think some short quick passing plays would help the o-line and
Eli if KG would call a few.
I dont think its in the playbook
When was the last time we saw that stuff
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
They threw a ton of quick outs and WR screens Sun
One was intercepted for TD if I remember
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Vick threw a TD pass off his back foot
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Or he plays in a better, well designed offense
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
No
Hes a better player. Love Eli, but there’s really no denying that Vick is a better PLAYER.
His Results are not in Eli Zip Code
Vick
Comp%: 55
Y/G: 149
Y/A: 6.9
3,000 yd season: 1
Record as of 2010 : 46/42
Winning Season: 2
Yrs in Leg: 10
Eli
Comp%: 58
Y/G: 216
Y/A: 6.8
3,000 yd season: 6
Record as of 2010: 60/42
Winning Season: 4
Years in Leg: 7
Facts?
C’mon now
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Vick:
Int: 58
Yrs in League: 9 (including this year)
Rushing Yds: 4727
Fumbles: 43
Rushing TD: 32
Eli
Int: 114
Yrs in League: 8 (including this year)
Rushing Yds: 352
Fumbles: 45
Rushing TD: 4
You don’t even know how long these QBs have been in the league, you COMPLETELY disregarded any rushing stats Vick has put up (which any football fan knows is a huge part of his game) and you chose stats that make Eli look like he’s some kind of elite QB. This is exactly what makes you Giant homer fans look foolish…let’s see how Eli fares in week 3
"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc
My point is there is this myth that QBs should never thow off their back foot
and when Eli does it he’s horrible.
The reality is all QBs do it. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Simms says all QBs have to be able to throw off their back foot because it’s just not realistic to think you are going to have room to step up on every throw.
So I get sick and tired of these generalizations.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
The one thing that cannot be objectively measured
Is leadership.
His lack of leadership hurt the Giants on Sunday and has hurt them for quite a while.
Hurts as much as any of the measurables.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions
tim tebow's leadership rating is 350720350238045230482308402384823 billion
he still sucks. take your leadership, ill take talent.
by Lolmoarpl0x on Sep 13, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
This
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He's fishing for excuses for Eli at this point.
Can’t wait till Eli goes out and throws for 350 and 3 TDs, he’ll still suck lol.
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
true leaders
would throw for 400 yards and 4 TDs
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
and clap with authority
not like that pansy Tuck
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah yes,
my mistake. Anything less, and one can definitively be categorized as not a leader. Got it.
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
now you got it
also he needs to wear his sideline hat backwards, to show that “NY” is behind him all the way
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ehhhhh...
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
need photo proof to prove
the “badassness” of it, lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha....I'm not falling for that one!
Flash photography will dull the tattoo…nice try – no photos
Pathetic
by your tone
it sounds like you fell for this once before and learned your lesson
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If your a girl fine.
If not I would advise against it.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
who had 500 yards in week 1. maybe im hallucinating
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 13, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Brady last night
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wake me when he does it
I’ll be the first to praise him
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems a lot like Joe Montana to me
Low key, expects people to do their jobs, in charge of the huddle
Bart Starr did pretty well without stomping around
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
He's been our quarterback for 7 years
The “Can Eli lead this team?” discussion went out the door with the Super Bowl MVP, Division Title, Pro Bowl, and 30 TD 4000 Yard seasons.
Anyone still stuck on that is probably still trying to figure out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.
Mr. Owl said three goddammit. Get over it.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Sep 13, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
rec'd for substance and mr. owl reference
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
great stuff
on more then a few levels
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Super Bowl MVP
i don’t think so! that’s how much Eli made everyone believe he’s in the top 5 among qb! Tuck and the defense for superbowl mvp baby!
And you know this...
by all the Giants’ meetings and practices you attend and all the time you spend in the lockerroom and weight room?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
gawd
can we get over this leadership BS. I dont think a rah rah Eli on the sidelies would have helped a shreded D
by GMen56-11 on Sep 13, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Eli has nothing to do with the defensive side of the ball
But he sure as hell isn’t getting anyone fired up on the offensive side either. This is why we need a coach that can help rally the troops, TC is just not one of those guys. I can see his halftime speech now… “you’re a pro.. paid to play… do your job…blah blah blah..” Yawn. There’s just zero passion
All Bellicek ever tells his guys is Do Your Job.
He holds players accountable, and they execute. Sometimes it’s on the players.
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
what makes that interesting is that it was a very bad performance by Eli's standards
yet the numbers say he ranked average, which by and large it was an average game. Its not the last time he’ll look like that, but I’m pretty certain he’ll have better games then that.
But I like the ratings system. It even overrates the Dallas Cowboy, so ESPN definitely got their numbers correct.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Haha
It even overrates the Dallas Cowboy, so ESPN definitely got their numbers correct.
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If you read the article on ESPN about the NFC East QB's from week one it explains it pretty well
Romo was having an amazing week through 3/4 of the game, about an 86 rating, and it dropped by like 20 something just in the 4th quarter. Maybe it doesn’t weigh his F ups at the end of the game heavily enough (not sure about that), but you do have to account for the fact that he was having a very good game up to that point.
I watched that entire game
it was the perfect Romo game. Play great through 3 quarters but the game is still close. Then in the end he does everything he can to lose it instead of put the other team away.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 13, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
he totally Romo’d at the end of the game, like usual.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Romo is a choker
That’s hard for any stat based system to show, kind of like Labron James. In a big game you Romo is not the QB you would want playing.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 13, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
3/4 of the game
if we go by that amount of time on how good a team/player was…. Giants were 2010 NFC East Champs
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
we can change that, quick get in!!!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta make one stop in Sept 2007 first
to tell 2007 TAWD to get to Vegas to beat on the Giants to win the SB, right after the Green Bay game. Tehn warn him about the b*tch he was about to start dating.. give him the choice if he wants to go though with it.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
buyer beware
but by the time it goes down… he will have his Vegas winnings to help his broken soul. The two events coincide the same fabric of the space/time continium… Feb 2008
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
2007 or 2011 me?
most likely both deserve a clap so its fair
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
he will be informed of said punishment
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
But, but the sanchize willed the Jets to victory
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Or something else.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
One question...
did it break down or weigh in how the INT wasn’t Eli’s fault?? If McKenzie had Kerrigan engaged in a block, that pick 6 doesn’t happen and the game is different.
Cuz he returned it for a Touchdown, or 6 points.
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
the INT (or pick) is run in for the touchdown
which is worth 6 points until the extra point kick is made
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Lol
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the ball was "picked-off
And returned to the end-zone; resulting in 6 points.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 13, 2011 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ignore the other guy's
ignorant responses. They call it pick 6, because all Giant fans pick up another 6-pack and guzzle in a vain attempt to
alleviate the pain.
I thought it was the # of fingers Eli got up his nose
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I can only get 2
Eli wins that battle
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
this
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
SPAGS is supposed to be on the FAN
If you can tolerate Mt Francesca (the volcano blew once already)
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
time?
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Speaking of QB's
Despite his performance last night, Brady has got to be a little nauseated this with news that his Center Koppen will be out with a broken ankle.
Brady got his power from the supreme ass-kissing that was coming from the booth
They were slobbering all over themselves. He could sip a Gatorade and Gruden would have busted in his pants.
Pathetic
I love how they were talking about
how no one else (since Peyton’s out) changes plays at the line of scrimmage anymore. They referenced Peyton changing up plays, but they apparently have no idea that Eli does that, too…sometimes, to a fault, but still.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Gruden is definitely a fluffer of the highest order
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I hope Jaws
drops a few S and F bombs when JJP hits Bradford out of his spikes.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved that
I def. missed when he said it, and then he arbitrarily apologized for a word he used earlier…hilarious.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
holy crap
I could have SWORN I heard a curse word… but I just wrote it off as me hearing what I WISH they would say. I guess I missed the apology.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 13, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He could sip a Gatorade and Gruden would have busted in his pants.
Hhahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Don't tase me bro!
lol
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
seriously
how the hell did that happen, how did he get that in the stadium?
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea, I always seem to get felt up real good getting into stadiums
On a side note, I did see a Redskin fan and the game Sunday wearing a burgandy and yellow T-shirt that read “Have you even been to Dallas?” I got a chuckle out of that.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, nice shirt
thinking about it, I’m not suprised to a degree. Went to a bunch of Yankee games this summer and they barely even look at me when I get to the security stop at the gate. But at a packed opening night in NY… on 9/11? No excuse.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right, no excuse
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
oh snap
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Woah what happened?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Jets win games they should lose
Giants lose games they should win.
Why? COACHING! Rex has his players believing they can win. Tom stands there with a dumbfounded look. He instills no confidence in his players. Jets play with confidence. Giants play waiting for something to go wrong. They play with no emotion. Just like their coach. I was at Sundays game. It’s the season opener. The players ran on the field like its just another day at the office. No enthusiasm at all!
by GMen56-11 on Sep 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
so
the Jets blocking a punt, forcing a fumble and Revis making a play had nothing to do with their comeback win?
No Rex wasn’t on the field. But the Jets have won more than a few games the last 2+ seasons that they should have lost. You don’t think coaching has anything to do with it?
Those things had something to do with the win but if Romo doesn't fumble...game over
If Romo doesn’t throw the pick…game over
Pathetic
I do like
that the Jets are more aggressive sometimes on ST. I have no idea the last time we used a punt block formation (that is, stack a shitload of people on the line and go right for the ball)
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The "Force fumble" was a romo faceplant
The punt block was great ST design, not Rex’s specialty.
The revis int was Romo throwing it right to him. Even i make that Int if the QB throws the ball square into my chest.
Even looking back, a lot of the jets wins were very lucked based. I remember one in cleveland where the Browns were set to win in OT, then the receiver just inexplicably fumbled the ball trying to get extra yards they didn’t need rather than going down or getting out of bounds.
What Rex brings is an attitude
We’re better than you, we’re more physical than you, and we are taking it to you
It translates into aggression on the field. TC who is a good coach, is essentially passive in tone. It’s about execution not imposing our will on guys. Madden has said it plenty of times. Sometimes you need to let your guys just beat on their guys. Nothing tricky, nothing fancy.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Oof the Lions game last year...
If they didn’t injure the kicker they score the PAT and win that one…
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
i try not to get all wrapped up in that kinda stuff
but I must admit….after I watched the Pitt / Balt game….
it did look like the Giants were just kinda going through the motions out there….but w/e i guess.
TeamJPP
I usually don't either
but being at the game we see things we don’t get to see on TV. Before the game, the Giants players jogged on the field like it was a preseason game.
you saw Ed Reed hit Hines Ward?
I think the entire Baltimore Bench went literally ape shit on the sidelines
now granted it’s a well known fact all of Baltimore hates H Ward w/ a passion but at the same time, i was a bit taken back at how pumped up they were!
TeamJPP
That stuff comes from the coach
We’ve never had a lot of enthusiasm during TCs reign, in 2007 it was way more Strahan and Pierce
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
great post
Coughlin has been overdue to be taken out to the back of the barn and put out of his misery.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You know thats hilarious!
A first I always thought that look on TC’s face was anger and rage, I have since come to realize its pure confusion and helplessness. The best part about it is Eli conveys the same emotions and doesnt bother to do anything about it!
by leviathen2003 on Sep 13, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Off topic
Good interview with Spags.
Francesa was talking how the skins knew the audible “rocket” Eli called on the pick six.
I have stood behind Coughlin but now I question. This gets a “c’mon man” to the nth degree. I am numb again. Tuck and Rolle’s interviews got me a little inspired but now I need a drink.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 13, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE GUYS DOING ALL WEEK????
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 13, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Buddy Ryan free?
I got a job for him.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
We have five more days to tune this up for Monday Night. This team better be running a little smoother.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 13, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
and if they aren't
I wonder what excuses will be made then?
by MrDollarBills on Sep 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it will go like this
Reporter: What do you have to do to play better TC I don’t know. Reporter: Eli what do you think you have to do to play better. Eli: WE have to play better.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Thats good.
I really just want to see the blocking improve and Fewell to wake up.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL at the comment
I bet his counterpunches are as predictable as his play calling.
I watched the ESPN special on how this rating works
And I gotta say, it seems pretty legit. They take into account every play & how it affects the game. It is a helluva lot better that the original QB rating. They went back to 2009 & factored in all of the QBs. I believe Eli was #7 and well above the average.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Cruz vs Barden
why do I have this feeling Cruz will be gone by week six.
Barden will be activated in his place.
who do we go after if cruz, hixon, and others do bad
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 13, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather see him on the outside
He’s a burner, let him learn 2 deep routes perfectly a post and a corner.
Move Mannigham to the slot, keep him away from the fricking sideline
Wait I forget, that’s not an option, we need to have the WR make a series of reads followed by a partial derivative of a multivariate equation, wait till he gets a migraine and then ask him why he wasn’t open.
Can you tell I’m getting sick of the flaws in our offense
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
this
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He was on the team mostly
for speed as a gunner on STs, also why Hagan was cut during camp last year. Thomas and Hixon are much better players then him.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Reply fail It was for the Duke is good comment.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Now where is...
that jets fan who came here and told us that Sanchez is better than we think and they won because of him and not in spite of him?
This stat is garbage. The old system is better.
How can sacks and basically an entire offense account into the QB’s rating? That’s sucks for guys who have a horrible offensive line. What a joke.
Residing on the BEast coast.
ur kidding me right
so td/int ratio is the only things that should matter? This stat takes into effect EVERYTHING the QB does over the course of a game. This is a billion times better the old one.
BTW it takes into account where or not you had enough time to get rid of the ball & took a sack or threw it away. So its not just about the O-Line. It also limites the effect of yards after the catch. It specifically targets the effect a QB has on the outcome of the game.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Garbage stat.
It’s obviously flawed compared to Football Outsiders DYAR and DVOA.
Residing on the BEast coast.
there's no one perfect formula
but this is the best ive seen
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
LOL
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
not really
the Colts OL is terrible but Peyton doesn’t get sacked. Why? Quick decisions. The Giants have had David Diehl starting as their LT for years for whatever reason, but Eli’s sack totals go down.
That should factor in, no doubt. David Carr’s 70+ sack record wasn’t all on his OL. It was a lot to do with him bumbling like Sol Rosenberg behind the line.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
those two stats are flawed as well
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
16th based on one game where he was running for his life.
7th overall last year. Sure he may be a little overpaid but let’s not get carried away. Bottom line: Eli got the big payday based on what he had already accomplished.
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 13, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
#1 overall pick
Let’s not forget we traded up to pick Eli with the #1 overall pick. Not sure that I’d celebrate him being the #7 QB when we could have had Rivers at the #4 pick that year. I don’t think #16 or #7 is something to be proud of.
by NY Football Giants on Sep 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Recent #1 overall QBs
Peyton Manning, Tim Couch, Michael Vick, David Carr, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, JaMarcus Russell, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, Cam Newton
Looking at this list Eli stacks up pretty well. The only one who is clearly better than him is Peyton. Last year’s Vick was arguably better but the Atlanta version was not. I don’t think we have a lot to complain about. We could have had Rivers at #4 but we might not have a Superbowl. Rivers hasn’t done much in the playoffs with a team that is annually regarded as a Superbowl contender.
by G-FANinFL on Sep 13, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Every thing is going to be alright.
Eli said that he is a top 5 Quarterback.
hard to say when you get outplayed by rex grossman
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 13, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's in the numbers...
Just check out my signature line, and then do the research if you need proof.
Numbers dont lie. Your so-called elite QBs since Eli Has been a starter... Leaders in TDs: Peyton, Brady, Brees, Eli! Leaders in Yards: Peyton, Brees, Favre, Eli! Leaders in Wins: Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rovers, Eli! -2010 Yes, He is Elite. Yes, He is a top 5 QB in the NFL! Deal With it!
And Jets fans continue to say Sanchez is top 8
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
I compare the Giants to a sleeping Giant
they just need someone to wake them up ( correct their execution problems, install an aggressive style on both offense and defense ) and watch out! Eli and Co. will tear up the league. We have the personnel on this team to be scary good. Tom Coughlin just aint the guy to bring it out.
Shouldn't the alarm for the wake up call been set to go off on Sept 11, 2011 4:15 eastern time??
Quinn must go !!
hopefully they just hit the snooze button.
not the sleep button.
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 14, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the simplest, most accurate barometers of success no one talks about
Yards per attempt.
Going back 45 years, the team with the higher YPA has won 84% of the time, according to an article in the 9/6 Wall Street Journal.
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