New York Giants News & Notes: Hakeem Nicks Might Not Play Monday
by Ed Valentine on Sep 13, 2011 6:01 AM EDT
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PrintHere are your Tuesday morning New York Giants news & notes, including some news you probably don't want to read regarding star wide receiver Hakeem Nicks.
Nicks has bone bruise in his knee, could miss Monday night
The good news is there is no structural damage in Hakeem Nicks’ knee.
The bad news?
He has a bone bruise, according to a source familiar with the results of his tests. His status for Monday night is unknown.
As if the Giants could afford another injury, especially to the one player on offense who looked good yesterday. Nicks caught seven passes for 122 yards, providing the only real spark for a Giants’ attack that continues to look out of sync.
The receiver underwent the MRI after his knee swelled today.
Give Antrel Rolle some credit. Sunday night Rolle insisted there was no helmet-to-helmet contact on the fourth-quarter play on which he was given a 15-yard penalty. After watching the film on Monday, Rolle admitted the call was "legit."
"After looking at the film I think it was definitely a legit call. I thought it was a legit call. My angle initially was to aim for his back and he began to alligator roll. Once he rolled, my momentum and our heads did collide. It's a legit call. In the heat of the battle you're just trying to help and get over there and get the guy down," Rolle said. "At no certain point in time was I going for an obvious head to head contact, but after reviewing the film I think it definitely did happen. It was a legit call. But I can learn from that. Next time just make sure I go over there and try to, I guess, push him down as hard as I can. Just make sure he doesn’t get that extra yard."
The penalty was costly, since it turned a Washington fourth down into a first down and allowed the Redskins to drive for their final touchdown. Props to Rolle, though, for at least owning up to the mistake.
Travis Beckum missed Sunday's game with hamstring issues and said Monday he is not sure he will be able to practice Wednesday when the Giants hold their first full practice in preparation for next Monday night's game against the St. Louis Rams. Discouragingly, Beckum admitted that the hamstring has been an issue his entire three-year Giants career.
"I had a hamstring injury my senior year at Wisconsin and it seems like it has been lingering ever since," Beckum said.
Quarterback Eli Manning was asked to explain why the team struggled offensively against Washington.
"There’s not one thing. We just have to play better football. That’s what it comes down to," Manning said.
The Giants ran the ball well in the first half Sunday, but used only six running plays after falling behind early in the third quarter. Manning dispute the notion that the Giants had abandoned the run.
"I don’t think that’s the case. We’re always a team that we’re going to try to run the ball, we’re going to try to do play action," Manning said. "You’re taking sacks, you get bad in down and distance and you can get off your rhythm and routine that you want to be in."
The Giants were only 1-for-10 converting third downs, and Manning said the problem was not necessarily on third down itself.
"I think four of those were third and 15-plus. That’s not really a third down problem, that’s a first and second down problem," Manning said. "We had the big play, we had a drop, then you had two third-and-ones where you have to run it and pound it and get those. We have to get some of those, but we have to be better down and distance."
Tuck '50-50' to play in Week 2 vs. Rams | New York Daily News
Justin Tuck already missed the season opening-loss to the Redskins, and he doesn't want to miss another game.
But there's no guarantee that Justin Tuck will be ready to play in Week 2 against the Rams. Tuck did an interview on WFAN on Monday afternoon, and when asked about the status of his injured neck for next week, he said he was likely "50-50."
"I would say I'm 50-50 right now," he said. "Just because it hasn't gotten any better since yesterday."
Steven Jackson Injury: Jackson Likely Out for Week Two, Bartell May Be Out for the Season - Turf Show Times
The St. Louis Rams might be without Steven Jackson next week, but that might not be the worst of the injury news. Which players could be out for much longer?
Giants sign Monmouth wide receiver Chris Hogan to practice squad | NJ.com
The Giants are cornering the market on local wide receivers on their practice sqaud.
Less than a week after signing Verona's Dan DePalma, the team added Monmouth's Chris Hogan to the practice squad.
The 6-2, 220-pound Hogan, who ran a 4.47-second 40-yard dash at his pro day and has been timed below 4.4 seconds, was with the 49ers in camp but was hampered by an ankle injury. He impressed the Giants during a workout before this year's draft and must have done so again when he worked out for the team last week.
I have just one question. Can the guy play cornerback?
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Sigh....
I know you preach – don’t give up yet.
But I’m not hopeful for this season.
We can use it as a launch point for next season. Hope that the younger guys get some good learning done.
could you imagine what it'd look like if...
Hakeem Nicks had a top flight QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick to throw to him? He’d be unstoppable.
In Reese We Trust
Another day another.......
Injury!!! These injuries have to stop for the Giants to have any chance this season. Can’t keep losing our best players and expect to win. Not with a Coach that doesn’t know how to win with backups and get the most out of them.
TCB
This has nothing to do with Tom Coughlin. No coach in the history of the NFL would be able to survive with all of the injuries we sustained. I mean, both starting DE, starting MLB, our first and third best CBs, starting TE, and what was likely to be our starting DT in Marvin Austin. Not to mention injuries Sintim, Bruce Johnson, and Witherspoon, all of whom figured to be key back ups.
"The Phoenix Suns always get the retarded brother; Markieff Morris, Taylor Griffin, Robin Lopez, and the Collns twin."-Some dude from Twitter.
I might start to kill little kittens
If shit like that keeps happening to the Giants!
I thought that last year was a terrible year due to injuries and poor execution on the field but this is definetely worse and the Giants only played one game!
I’m usually hopeful and very optimistic but right now with stock of hopes and positive thoughts is getting low…
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And I forgot
We don’t need Rolle to acknowledge his mistakes and feel sorry afterwards. We need him to do the right thing on the field. His mistake hurted the Giants badly. Fo someone who wants to be a leader that’s never a good thing.
We also need him to start making plays in coverage. We need a cover safety not a run safety!
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"We also need him to start making plays in coverage"
He is never in deep coverage anymore because he is needed elsewhere. Antrel is not the problem in the secondary, yes me made some non veteran mistakes but he is the one DB that i dont have a real issue with…..ALL the other guys need to step the effort up…Kenny needs to play the ball not the hit.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Do you remember the play before the Hightower TD?
It was a pass from Grossman to #13 in the middle of the field. The WR was down at the 1 or 2. Anyway who was the guy behind him who did nothing but follow and watch? #26 Antrel Rolle… I mean Rolle didn’t even look like he was trying to bat the pass away. He could have failed but at least it would have tried.
He had other horrible plays in coverage.
I’m not asking him to cover when he is in the box defending the run obviously but many time he was supposed to cover and he just didn’t. The guy doesn’t deserve his salary yet!
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that Rolle is the only one to blame for the 300 yards given up to Grossman. The whole secondary sucked! But right now I’m just talking about Rolle.
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I see your points
But to me he damn sure deserves his salary…….they have him doing EVERYTHING besides what he was brought here to do……in the box, and in the slot…..he was brought in to play deep but since none of the others are as good as he is at everything, he gets shifted about…..last year it was gain 8 lbs and play in the box, this year its lose 6lbs and play in the slot, do all this while still playing deep at times, learn the slot reads, the in the box reads, but still keep your mind ready for the deep reads, man he didnt even practice in the slot until TT went down.
Does he make some bonehead plays? sure and Sure he looks rusty, sure he looks a little lost, thats because he is!!! but its not his fault, dude is doing whatever they ask and he is doing good but he does break down mentally in certain spots but he will get it together. I think we need to recognize its not him per se.
My blame goes to ALL THE OTHER DB’s who cant seem to play their ONE position right.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Rolle was not brought in to play inbox safety IMO
That was Deon Grant.
The Giants signed the best safety available to upgrade the Safety that was more than weak: Can’t Cover Brown, Michael Johnson, Aaron Rouse (sometimes Aaron Ross…) and injured Kenny Phillips.
You don’t pay that much for an inbox safety.
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I know, i didnt say that at all
i actually said
“he was brought in to play deep but since none of the others are as good as he is at everything, he gets shifted about”
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Ah my bad
Read it too quickly.
So yeah we agree he is not used properly just like the rest of the secondary.
I think that Fewell has trouble adapting his gameplan
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Just Coughlin comment on the 4th & 5
The players were playing off coverage when they were supposed to play press…
Q: Did you see a lack of urgency or too much cushion on defense?
A: I’m not sure about that. I do know on the fourth and five we were off a little more than what we would have coached it and we weren’t even able to get up there and keep it at five.
Everyone is to blame, definetely. Sometime it’s bad coaching and sometime it’s just that the players are not listenning…
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See
Everyone blames Fewell but the players dont listen.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Just like I said
Sometimes it’s on the coaches, some other times it’s on the players.
Everyone is to blame. They need to get all on the same page.
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Yea not used properly but
Its hard for me to blame Fewell because I think it comes from a good place. I think he just has too much faith in his DB’s being as though thats where he honed is craft. I mean they are always in good position but damn if they dont react a step slow to everything!!!
Also losing Goff was a bigger issue than many realize, he was the one making all the checks and audibles, without him, it seems like we just run the play that was sent in regardless of any adjustments the offense makes.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I already miss Goff...
He has shown improvement in pass coverage during the preseason… The rookie is just playing like a rookie so I can’t blame him for not being able to cover well right now.
Damn you football gods!
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Really?
The play you are referencing, the coverage was far from bad. That ball was put in a spot where only the receiver could get it, and even then it took an unbelievable highlight-reel catch to complete the play. I’m not saying the giants secondary had a great game, but when receptions like that one happen there’s just not that much a defender can do.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Rolle was on him
But did not raise his arms to batt the pass away. It’s completely useless to follow a receiver if you are not going to raise your arms when the ball comes your way.
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Coverage
The drive that bothered me was the “Ross got beat drive.” He first gave up that long pass that got the Skins inside the red zone. Where he got turned around and looked foolish.
And one play later he had his back to the QB as he was giving up the TD pass. If I were a QB, I would pick on him nonstop.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 13, 2011 9:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The whole seconadry sucked
I was just focusing on Rolle here ^^
But yeah everyone played poorly in the secondary. C-Web was more than disappointing and Ross who looked like he was stepping up after the loss of TT just got back to his 2009-2010 form…
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Is it wrong
that I’m starting to get accustomed to hearing bad news involving the Giants and their starting players?………….or just sad?
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
Wrong
as bad as our injuries are, we still have starting caliber guys at most eevry position, i dont feel sorry for us at all. Our biggest losses came as a result of FA not injuries.
We are still more talented than most teams but with limited practices and new faces in the lineups, it makes it difficult but we are not a charity case.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Not wrong
We certainly aren’t a charity case, and we do have alot of quality starters, but with one injury after another, most of the season ending variety, it’s totally understandable that many of us now expect it.
Cause thats all we keep hearing!
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 13, 2011 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just taking a guess, but I bet Hakeem plays
just take it easy in practice, or not practice at all and do like Plaxico did.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Its not that serious
He will be out there.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I think coming here so early in the morning
is a good way to put you in a bad mood for the rest of the day. There just seems to be a storm cloud over this team right now. They are playing like a team who is stuck in pre-season. I hope at least one side of the ball will be able to put together a complete game this week. I do think they after a game or two they will start to click, I just hope they dont go 0-3 in the process.
Eli needs to have a Tom Brady game here soon bad. Over 500 yards and 4 TDs isnt a bad way to start off the season!
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
He does not have the opportunity to do that though
the offense system in NE and INDY and many of the other elite teams is built around the QB.
Killdrive has not idea how to do that.
Put him in a system and lets find out
Cannot argue with the fact that in the two minute offense Eli is very, very good.
Let’s go no huddle, hurry up, spread, etc.
Something different than what we do now.
Fine be a running team but have different sets and looks that disquise what we are really up to.
Then we should run the 2 minute drill from opening kickoff to the final gun.
and I’m not being sarcastic. Eli is at his best in the hurry up. Why can’t the coaches see this. Dump this current system and go no huddle. Let the D react to Eli instead of guys like Ham trying to react to the defense.
Quinn must go !!
doesn't work either
look at the Bills in the 90s
But Kelly was a master at that offense
Same offense that got them to 4 Superbowls, one of which they could have easily won.
Quinn must go !!
That's what I've been thinking
And one reason why I’d LOVE to see Chip Kelly be the next OC.
The Oregon offense could work well with this team. We’ve got lots of guys who make things happen with the ball in their hands.
Cause Killdrive works for Coughlin
who still holds on to old principles in football, like a balanced attack and time of possession. Guys like Belecheck have abandoned that train of thought and just go for the highest percentage plays that get the most yardage almost without thought to the game situation. Thus Brady throws from the 1yd line 3 times last night.
You down wit JPP?
Well they play to their strengths the whole game
They are an elite passing team so they pass……we are an elite running team so we stop running.
We just dont play to our strengths consitently.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
just making observations
Baseball changed when old thoughts on how to win started to fade. And I think a lot of the old thoughts that we all value about how to win at football, are being thrown aside in favor of a new style of game that is more effective.
You down wit JPP?
True but..
Those old thoughts on how to win in baseball went out the window because of PEDs. With stricter testing, those old thoughts are coming back and dominating baseball again.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 13, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure it keeps the other team off balance
they are thinking, okay, they are looking to get out of here, give enough room for our punter to operate.
First pass the DEF goes okay, they took a shot and failed.
Second pass the DEF goes, shit, what is up now.
Third they are in zone and thinking keep em short of the first down and BOOM.
But even if they did not get the first/TD, trust in your ST(I know laughing hysterically everywhere), DEF, etc.
That is a huge issue with Clawfin.
He has not adapted to todays NFL
Pats O looks like 2 hand touch
Brady just stands back there and there is always someone open. I’m watching him saying why can we do something similar? They come out in the 2 minute I have been saying that for years if we struggle let eli run the show for a series.
Also is it just me or is anyone else getting sick of hearing Eli say “We need to play better”
He is really starting to piss me off with that canned response dont say it Eli DO IT!
Agreed - bad way to start the morning
I agree, Wenz, reading these things is probably not the best way to start the day. It is getting to the point of bizarro-world, how the Giants best players keep getting injured. As it stands now, I don’t see the Giants having a chance at beating the better teams. Check out the last half of their schedule. It is going to be brutal.
As far as Eli needing a Tom Brady game – did you watch Tom Brady throwing the ball last night? He throws the ball with AUTHORITY. That’s the best way I know how to say it. I just don’t see that in Eli. I like Eli and have rooted for him all along, but I am getting worried that we have seen the best of Eli. I hope I am wrong.
by jfostersbnation on Sep 13, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Brady
is on his toes with the ball cocked ready to shoot lasers, he just looks like he is in control. Eli looked ilke he was running scared half the time grasping for yards. Of course NE’s o line looked a lot better, that rookie Soldier looked pretty good last night too.
Eli can put up those kinds of numbers (maybe not over 500 yards throwing) and he did last year unfortuntaly it all came with turnovers. I would shit my pants if Eli goes ham for over 500 yards in two weeks.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Brady...
Can’t stand him, but one play stood out to me last night (didn’t watch much of the game). It was a third down I think in the 3rd quarter. Brady gets pressured, pulls the ball down, steps up, sees his RB break away from the LB and Brady calmly recocks and hits his RB for a nice gain and a first down. I sat there watching and thinking "if Eli got pressured like that, he would flinch, tuck the ball with both hands and probably stumble into a defender for the sack. I don’t know how to do it, but the Giants need to work on Eli’s reaction to pressure.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 13, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
But wait...
According to many of the “homers” here, we have the greatest receiving corps in the history of western civilization. Nicks out shouldn’t be a problem. (sarcasm)
Sarcasm or not,
nobody on here ever said that or anything of the like. Nicks and Ham might be the best tandem in the league, with Nicks clearly being the better player.
I'd like to see Manning
say I have to play better. It is not just we (the whole team), he is the leader, the QB and thus far, he has been mediocre to be kind.
I want to see him stop the shoulder shrug, the pooped my pants look and become determined.
It just might be contagious.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions
he's never gonna man up and say that
it puts to much of the load on him. He want to come in, play like it’s his 1st or 15th year in the league and get paid like a top 5 QB. The Giants better find a replacement for this dude long before he starts the contract talk. The upside, it’ll probably be his best year since he’s trying to get paid again.
Been a fan since 83 and I can’t remember a year that I’ve had such a bad feeling about this team. It’s takes me back to the Dave Brown years and you know how those were
He said it after last year when he threw 25 picks.
you people are unbelievable. He’s said it more than once, I have to play better.
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"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I would also like to hear him say "I" once and a while instead of "WE"
He really does have an issue saying its on him but then again alot of Mannings mistakes are really on the route running so maybe thats why he says “We”…….. so maybe he is right in the way he says things, all in all, “WE” all need to play better.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Sometimes it is the route running
But is everyone running the wrong routes? I don’t think so. It is on him too and he has to make plays that do not involve left hand throwing or other stupid decisions. Maybe he is making the wrong read too.
He can’t change anyone else, he has to change his own playing.
Unaccountable is the word that comes to mind.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
With Manningham it's the wrong route
With Cruz, it’s the drop, sometimes it’s the OL who didn’t give him enough and I remember a couple of underthrown pass by Manning (or maybe just one). Bottom line: every one was to blame on offense so “we” is actually appropriate.
Eli acknowledge that he had to do something about the 25 interceptions and never blame (not even once) his receivers.
But I get your point guys, sometimes I would like to see Eli man up and start screaming at his teammates on the sidelines to wake them up. We all know that he is considered as a good leader by his teammates but in a game like that they don’t need to see Eli being Eli. They need to see Eli getting angry and get angry themselves.
The Giants need to wake up!
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He's not that type fo guy, he'll never do that.
People want him to change the type of person he is, that’s just dumb. He is who he is, deal with it.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli can get angry if he wants
Already done it against the Saints in 2009 when Bradshaw did not pick up the blitz.
That was a little bit too much but at least it was efficient to get things straight with AB.
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You're just not gonna see him
Going up to guys saying Let’s go, we’re playing like shit, pick it up, and be in their face. Not gonna happen.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Then we are doomed
Because that’s what the Giants need right now.
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I am solidly
with both Ever and Blue. And I know it’s been said before, but why doesn’t he get his ass reamed, ever? His passes look like its a rugby football he’s throwin.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
what if we put one of those collar things,
that a dog wears after going to the vet, on Tuck. It would let other teams know not to mess with his head and he could get on the field again right?
You down wit JPP?
IDK
We were fine without Tuck…..Kiwi and JPP at end would have supplied the constant pressure needed if they would have put Kiwi down, i really feel like that was the difference.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
IDK
as long as he was throwing against a secondary religated to zone and off coverage and playing it poorly with limited effort, i can almost bet that he woule have thrown for the same yardage…..now with Tuck there, would he have been 0-1?? that is the question.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Tuck is great
That said, Tollefson and JPP did a decent job. There were many other problems but Tuck being out was far from the top.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you all the way
Tolly and JPP did a decent job but JPP and KIWI would have been awesome, They wouldnt have been able to double JPP as much.
Tolly was okay, he gave really good pressure on blitzes but he was nullified in a sense from what i saw. They wouldnt have been able to nullify Kiwi.
Coverage sucked, so the consistent pressure of JPP and Kiwi could have saved us from all the time Grossman seemingly had back there.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
This is why I think Tuck would have had a bigger impact on the game
Coverage sucked, so the consistent pressure of JPP and Kiwi could have saved us from all the time Grossman seemingly had back there.
If it were JPP and Tuck or Osi and Tuck Rex wouldn’t have had that much time
Pathetic
He would have
each time the Giants rused with just 3 DLinemen.
The prevent D killed the Giants.
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prevent D = prevent you from winning D
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by tommy d. on Sep 13, 2011 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 13, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
He sure would have
But he didnt play.
I just think when you sit at a table and say hey, Tuck and Osi are down, who is our next best ends??
The clear answer is Kiwi and JPP not Tolly, Kiwi and JPP are just as talented as Tuck and Osi, but they are less accomplished.
Everytime Kiwi went into coverage (and he played well) it just pissed me off cause, all they did was double JPP and sit back there and pick us apart.
Horrible coaching decision but like someone said to me yesterday, it could have just been a reluctancy to play 2 rookie LB’s so i guess i get it.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I completely agree with you
Why the hell do we keep Kiwi at LB when Tuck and Osi are down? Kiwi was awful in coverage but I don’t blame him because he is a DE and that is not his job.
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Cause we
would have to put another rookie in at LB to replace him. Herzlich and no backup beyond him.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Well, it is his job since he pays Linebacker now...
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
With Tuck / Osi or JPP / Kiwi the Skins would have had to keep a TE in to block. The TE is where they did most of their damage. It might have been completely different. We will never know. It’s time to move on to St.Louis and chalk this game up to experience.
by vaanesthesia on Sep 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Tolly appeared to get more consstent pressure than JPP
JPP seemed like a non factor the first half.
Because
he’s a Reese draft pick right ?
Questions are a burden to others. Answers a prison to oneself.
by Arthur Curtis on Sep 13, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No because he seemed like a non factor the first half
he showed up all of a sudden and made an impact in the second half. Perhaps he was better conditioned than Trent Williams and outlasted him in the battle allowing him to produce more late in the game. If he has taken to conditioning himself as such that is a positive. I would like to see him make his presence known throughout the game though.
Wouldn't have made a big difference IMO
Tollefson was not that bad at LE and the problem was not the DL but the secondary.
Grossman might have been sacked just one more time and throw just for 250 yards but still the Redskins would have won against our lousy secondary and lack of execution on offense.
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Debbie Downers
Keep cheering and hoping for the best. Yeah, we are in a pretty bad situation. Yeah, there are some problems with our play as a team, but let’s be honest we have a lot of band aids and not the working parts we practiced with.
Pining and getting upset over it won’t change a thing. And honestly its hard to blame 100% the owner, GM, players, and coaches over the start of this season.
How many threads do we need us fans just to be negative Nancy’s all the time?
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
When the bone gets bruised.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Uh, yeah, I know that for a muscle, but a bone?
Do we really mean the flesh near the bone?
by Maryland Fan on Sep 13, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL i was being silly
i think they may really mean the bone. i guess the bone isnt broken obviously but it was harmed in some sense.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I know you were
but why would a bone that gets banged hurt anyway. I’m just clueless about what has really happened to him.
by Maryland Fan on Sep 13, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
If they just wore Knee pads
We wouldnt have this issue and we might still have Goff and Sintim.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Really?
Did I miss the sarcasm font there? Knee pads sure as hell aren’t helping Goff or Sintim, and probably not Nicks either.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 13, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Its the same as a contusion.
Its a bruise on the inside. Instead of bruising appearing on your skin, you’ll get tightness and swelling in the area, but no visible bruising other than the swelling.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 13, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I nominate you for ST coach
Good explanation. :)
A bone bruise occurs right under the surface of the bone end from compression. It is less than a fracture but it can hurt for a while.
Have had them, nasty but not season ending. Just very painful and slow healing.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
From Livestrong.com
A bone bruise is a lot more painful and the pain lasts longer than the giant swelling of a bruise on the skin or in the muscle. It is one step before a fracture. The bone has a cortex with interconnected fibers and calcium fills the spaces between the fibers. When the bone strikes something, those fibers break and leak out the contents held between them. If enough fibers break then the result is a fracture of the bone. A bone bruise occurs when only a few of the fibers break.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
not the word I’d use:
Via this article, which ends with:
And finally, remember to be patient. Bone bruises can take a few months to heal.
Are team is gone. We should just take the L.A stadium. And start over cause it seems like u gave are team away…
by Amsterdam Admirals on Sep 13, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Can take a cew months to heal
Lovely.
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by tommy d. on Sep 13, 2011 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we listen to Rorschach44
defend Beckum Nicks should definitely sit this week. As per R44 all injured players should sit. Why risk further injury.
I'm on your mind a lot, eh 11?
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 13, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe KG
will have to plan on more running plays.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
I don't know if it is so much being negative
when you question how a team can look so out of sync, so unprepared for the season. Yes, the Steelers and Falcons stunk up the joint as well. But how many teams (Cowboys? Philly? Skins? Jets?) played pretty much decent football (Yes, Romo did a Romo but the Cowboys look light years beyond our team at the moment). Why is that? Injuries? Sure, it’s a part of it, but this team has bad habits they cannot seem to break and a QB who is currently playing like a rook. Me, I’m hoping this is something they can pull together and make a run at a decent season. How they perform Monday night will tell us a lot. Yes, it is early, but this years team has an odd stench to it that even 2009’s didn’t have (though it was apparent they weren’t very good). Fingers crossed.
when you question those who say the emperor is clothed when he’s bare assed naked, dick swinging left and right.
Wow that sucks,
Sounds like we will be down Nicks and Tuck on Monday, I really hope some of the young guys sieze the opportunity they have in front of them. Because we really need some help.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 13, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions
I think our help will come in the form of a Steven Jackson less Rams
not to mention a less than 100% Sammy boy and no Amendola.
Now if our big name secondary cant handle that, then i dont know what to tell you.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I think our "Big Name" secondary
rides the coat tails of the BIG NAME front seven. Why put any effort into staying with the receivers when you know that the opposing QB is constantly being harassed, knocked down, stripped of the ball and sacked a good part of the time. Now even though he did a good job, I thought Tolly looked much smaller than his counterpart on the Washington side.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Tolly isn't a big guy
Which is why it was odd that on obvious passing downs he was the one who actually played inside as a DT while JPP stayed outside. You’d think with JPP’s size and supposed strength you’d have him take the inside role like Tuck does. Putting a 255 lb guy like Tolly at DT is kind of odd. Ironically I think JPP may have been most successful when Tolly lined up next to him. That may have been coincidental in that they were obvious passing situations so JPP didn’t have to think or worry about the run and could just pin his ears back.
If I had a nickel for every time
Eli said “We just have to play better football” or words to that effect over the years, I would be as rich as he is…
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Sep 13, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions
Or
for the look of bewilderment after another blown play
by Cruz Control on Sep 13, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Rolle
what else could he say, there was indisputable visual evidence
Bone Bruise
not so minor for Carlos Beltran and Ike Davis…..I suggest we not consult with the Mets medical staff
He'll wear a boot for 2 months and make it worse...no thanks
Goddamnit, it’s like Nicks gets an MRi somewhere every damn week.
Get some calcium in this dude!
Same staff
Their staff is the same as our staff
by eyerish9299 on Sep 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Signings?
Ok so we got another guy for the PS, but what about CB or TE? I figured the Giants were waiting until after the game so vet salaries aren’t guarenteed, but now they haven’t signed anyone. Is there anyone out there that they could bring in?
Oh lord No
Ramses Barden just needs to hurry.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Giants couldn't use Barden right now even if they would like to
He is locked on the PUP until week 6 I think.
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Sure is
But we can survive until then……maybe if didnt stop running the ball for fear of it actually working, we wouldnt need Nicks to save us for the whole second half.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yeah bc Barden is a proven WR
They wouldn’t bring in T.O. or Moss because they don’t want anyone that could potentially hurt Eli’s feelings if he makes a mistake.. KIDDING (kind of)
We don't need a TE
We have Ballard :D
(That is actually one of the few things I feel good about)
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
I like Ballard, but
Pascoe looked weak again and poor Beckum’s leg is sore.
Yep you are right
We are thin at TE without a doubt.
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Bear has to be hurt or somethin
cause i dont understand what happened to him. WOW.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
at least the ones on this team
I’d like to see what Amukamara does under him since he may actually have the instincts to play in a T2 defense.
Fewell’s specialty was supposed to be DBs, but it seemed the ones that panned out under him were the ones drafted and developed by him, not the ones that were already there.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 13, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
"The Best Interest of My Hamstring"
Coach Tom Coughlin is getting exasperated with the inability of TE Travis Beckum to get on the field. He doesn’t sound confident Beckum’s going to play against the Rams. " i don’t know," Beckum said. “I’m going to see how it feels, but as hard as it is to not play I still got to look for the best interest of my hamstring and try to get back as soon as possible.”
Who cares, hopefully Ballard is playing
Beckum has contributed nothing to the team so far so how can we miss what we have never had. I really hope he can get on the field and show us something, but if the guy is hurt he is hurt.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 13, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
This guy is always hurt
I give up on this guy. This is football and he can not play because he is always hurt. Some guy’s want to defend him and that’s fine but we need guy’s who can contribute and help this team win. This guy just can’t do it be it Injury or whatever I give up. I hope I"m wrong and he can play at some point this year but at this point I"m done
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Bekum needs to start interviewing for non-football jobs.
The pro game is just not for him
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by tommy d. on Sep 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What's funny (but not really)
is he’s looking out for his long term interests which are basically running out with the Giants
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
That's what it looks like to me, too.
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Correction...
He has contributed some wrong routes.
by vaanesthesia on Sep 13, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I just sighed so hard, I passed out
What did we ever do for the football gods to smite us with these injuries???
A told B and B told C, "I'll meet you at the top of the coconut tree."
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Plenty of teams have PSLs
and don’t have these probs
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
SCRAP ALL DEFENSIVE PLANS!!! AND GO WITH MINE.
1) Put Rolle back in deep coverage permanently
2) Kiwi Plays end and LB evenly no matter the down (this will throw off offenses)
3) Play bump and run more often for Webby’s sake
4) whoever the 3rd corner just has to man up and play slot until Prince gets back…..do not use any of our safeties
5) Let Herzlich start at Mike backer ( I like Greg jones but I think Herz should be the one)
6) Kenny only wants to hit, so eff it put him in position to do what he wants, down in the box more.
7) Take more advantage of Chris Canty’s athleticism
8) When Osi gets back he starts…..Keep Kiwi and JPP as our rovers, move them around all most every down.
9) Give Sash some more run if the other safeties cant get it together.
10) What the hell is Dave Merritt and Peter Giunta doing with all that talent in the secondary, great coaches but step it up
11) Dont waste Boley’s talent, he is playing awesome, put him in some better spots to do more.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
If Hakeem sits Monday
I’m going to destroy something beautiful.
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Sep 13, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
Come kill some kittens with me
See my comment above
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Instead of killing kittens
why not something productive? Like punching Jest fans?
You don't find many Jest fans where I live
But you can find kittens everywhere :)
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Ah, Montreal?
Do they still sell LaBatt’s Bleu?
Nope Sao Paulo until the end of September
But normally I live in France
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
I see.
I still might have to head up to Montreal to drink some beer. In honor of the Giants, some Bleu. If they keep losing, some Le Fin du Monde.
You can stop at my place, just one hour south of Montreal
Near Plattsburgh. A heads up, it sucks coming back into this country from Canada.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Yeah it does
I’m just across the lake from you.
LMAO
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I wonder who gets hurt
on wednesday? Should we run a deadpool (injury wise) from now on?
C'mon man!
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 13, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, Keyshawn
I can’t pick which part of that monstrosity of a suit is worse. The tie, the shirt, or the jacket. C’mon man, just give him a damn mirror!
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I know we're not supposed to use injuries as an excuse
But C’MON!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Chris Hogan
to the rescue……same college as Miles Austin….receiver factory
I wonder
about the Giants putting WRs on their practice squad.
Is it more about not being happy currently with the WRs (after Ham and HN) or is it also that Barden is worse than said and they are not confident in him.
Just thinking….
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
It's about talent on the scout team,
so the D will improve during practice. Just my opinion.
Ok here's some thoughts...
On Nicks:
Bone bruises hurt, especially in your knee, I had quite a few of those in my football years… I think he’ll be fine by next Monday it just depends on how well his body heals because I’ve had one that was there for 2 weeks and one that was there for 3 days…. Good thing is that he’s not out for the year.
On Tuck:
If his neck doesn’t start getting better soon I’d be worried, I haven’t seen a stinger last this long before. I still don’t see how he misses the Philly game unless it’s something more serious than what’s being told.
On your game vs Rams:
Bradford barely throws down field, I think his longest attempt was 30 yards… This will play in favor of your secondary. Also they seem to have issues catching the ball.
Watch out for the running game though, Williams may be a backup but he’s really effective… That being said you guys should win this one even if you’re down Nicks and Tuck on top of the rest.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
The Tuck thing is weird
Because there’s some mystery / controversy around the MRI and if the doctor saw something “concerning” or not. But it definitely seems to be more than just a stinger.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I didn't know that there was some mystery/controversy around the MRI.
Honestly I didn’t realize he had an MRI on it… But after hearing this I think it’s probably something more than a stinger he’s been out since what August 23rd? That’s a hell of a stinger.
I just hope he gets better and can play us healthy week 3 because I want to see how Herremans does against one of the best DE’s in the game.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Eli was spot on
Now that it’s recognized, fix it!
And the way I see it, Tuck should just sit out Monday. It’s a winnable game, even with our injuries. I’d rather he take the time to heal. He’s just too important to the rest of the season to risk in week 2.
Eli Manning
I’m a huge Eli fan and supporter. I defend him to the bitter end. That said, I’m so tired of his cliche responses. I’d rather not watch or read an interview with him.
+1
I couldn’t agree more.
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
by TrueBlue777 on Sep 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Perry Fewell needs to fix the issues the secondary.
It was the same issue last season. It doesn’t matter who is playing back there, they’re always out place and getting beat when they need to make a big play.
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
We're Better
We win 95 out of 100 against the skins…..ask Antrell
quick question
about the increase in acl tears this year, specifically the Giants ones, were the players effected wearing knee pads? and if not, would they have possibly prevented the injuries if they were wearing them?
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
No. Trust me.
When your knee hyperextends backwards, sideways or just totally separates those flimsy little pieces of Foam do nothing to protect your ACL.. They’re more to cushion contact with your Knee cap so you don’t get bruises and bone bruises there…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Gotcha
Thanks. I wasn’t sure about that.
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by sweatyguido on Sep 13, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I need to go back and fix something...
I’m sure the knee pads would help if you got hit straight on, I’m sure that it’d help in a few cases.. But overall it wouldn’t have much of an effect.. I’d equate it to a drop of alcohol in a glass of water really.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Weapons
We already needed more weapons on the field, now our best one Nicks might not play. What are the chances that coach Tom “I Hate Playing Rookies” Coughlin lets our most explosive draft pick (Scott) onto the field, and that our dope (not in the good way) OC has enough creativity to get him into space for some short passes??
Maybe...just maybe
All of these injuries might be a positive. Guys getting injured is a never a positive, but I look at it this way. The past two seasons, we have started out red hot only to stumble down the stretch.
Maybe this season we instead stumble a bit out of the gates, then build momentum as the season builds on and as guys get healthier. Also, as the season progresses other teams are going to get just as beat up as us while we’re the ones getting healthier. We’re going to continue to witness a lot of injuries this season due to the lock out.
Week one just ended and we’ve already seen injuries to key players like Jon Beason (out for season, ouch), Steven Jackson, Sam Bradford, Eric Berry(out for season), Knoshown Moreno, Kevin Walter, Brandon Lloyd, and Marques Colston.
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