Giants At Redskins: 'Kudos & Wet Willies' Review
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 8:58 AM EDT
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I will get to the traditional 'Kudos & Wet Willies' shortly, but first a few general impressions after Sunday's disappointing effort by the New York Giants in a season-opening loss to the Washington Redskins.
- Rex Grossman is one of the worst quarterbacks the Giants will face this season. The fact that he threw for 305 yards is a horrible sign. The Giants look helpless in the secondary.
- The Giants were a pitiful 1-for-10 on third down. When they tried running, they couldn't get anybody blocked. When they tried passing they had drops (Victor Cruz) or Eli Manning was running for his life.
- Why did the Giants abandon the run? In the first half they had 12 runs for 63 yards (5.25 yards per carry). After the Ryan Kerrigan interception return for a touchdown the Giants ran the ball only six more times. That just is not playing to your strength.
- This game felt way too much like the last season-and-a-half, where the Giants were their own worst enemy with penalties, bone-headed plays, short-yardage problems and killer turnovers.
- One final note before we move on to the 'Kudos & Wet Willies.' Sunday was not good, and many of you have written off this season already. Don't jump off the bridge yet, though. If the season is lost for the Giants, it is also lost for the New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons and Pittsburgh Steelers -- and we know all of those teams are Super Bowl contenders.
Now, on to the good stuff.
Kudos to ...
Jake Ballard: Two impressive catches for Ballard, but the really noticeable part is that they totaled 59 yards -- a lot for a 270-pound guy who is supposed to be a blocker. Oh, and Ballard showed the kind of toughness Travis Beckum can only dream about, playing the entire second half after suffering a hip injury in the second quarter.
Hakeem Nicks: Seven catches for Nicks, who is going to have to be a big-time playmaker for the Giants. The only big play was the 68-yarder that set up the Giants first score, but he had a good day.
Jason Pierre-Paul: Without Osi Umenyiora and Justin Tuck to take some of the attention, JPP stepped up when the Giants needed plays from their defense. Both of his sacks and his forced fumble came in the second half when the Giants were on the ropes.
Henry Hynoski: When the Giants were able to run the ball in the first half the rookie fullback had a lot to do with it. I think the UDFA from Pittsburgh is going to be just fine in that role.
Michael Boley: Four tackles and a fumble recovery. Boley was extremely active, and spent a decent amount of time in Washington's backfield.
Brandon Jacobs: Six carries for 29 yards. The big guy ran hard. Question is this. He averaged 4.8 yards per carry to Ahmad Bradshaw's 3.4. In 2010 he averaged 5.6 to Bradshaw's 4.5. When do the Giants start giving Jacobs the ball more often?
Dave Tollefson: Two tackles and a sack for Tollefson, starting in place of Justin Tuck. He did not dominate, which you would not expect him to. He held his own, though.
Chris Canty: For playing well ... and for calling out his teammates.
Wet Willies to ...
Corey Webster: Some of you will bristle at this, pointing to Webster's two passes defensed. Fact is, though, the Redskins picked on and abused Webster all night long. Washington went after Webster over and over and over, and most of the time the guy who is supposedly the best cornerback the Giants have left had no answers. To be honest, Aaron Ross and Antrel Rolle weren't so hot in coverage, either, but Webster was the guy Rex Grossman picked on most of the day. Truth is, the Giants have huge problems in the secondary.
Giants Offensive Line: Not a good first effort for the revamped line. Eli Manning was sacked four times, and the Giants were unable to get anyone blocked on two failed short-yardage plays, a fourth-and-one and a third-and-one.
Special Teams: Has anyone signed Rhys Lloyd yet? Lawrence Tynes' first kickoff was horrid, and the blocked field goal was entirely on him. The Washington player who blocked it didn't even need to get off the ground the kick was so low. Plus, it probably would have been wide left even if it hadn't been blocked. I know Tynes missed a lot of time with that thigh bruise, but he did not do much to show me he was healthy. Also, how does Devin Thomas simply allow a kickoff to fall to the ground and not make much of an effort to go cover it up? At least Domenik Hixon did a good job on punt returns.
Antrel Rolle: I really don't care about the seven tackles. A veteran guy and a supposed Pro Bowler can't go and spear a defenseless receiver laying on the ground in the fourth quarter of a seven-point game. Especially when simply touching him down makes it fourth down and gives the Giants the ball back. Rolle's dumb penalty led to Washington's game-clinching score. That, simply, is inexcusably bad football. Rolle made all sorts of noise after the game about how he didn't lead with his helmet. When he watches the film he will see that he most certainly did.
Victor Cruz: One critical drop on the Giants first series, a third-down pass that would have given the Giants a first down in Washington territory. It likely took away a scoring opportunity. Cruz was quickly replaced after that by Domenik Hixon in three-receiver sets.
Third-Down Offense: Poor short-yardage blocking, drops, Kevin Gilbride's play-calling. Blame it on whatever you want but you can't win games, build drives and get carries for Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs when you go 1-for-10 on third down.
Eli Manning: I don't really have a specific criticism of Eli. The Pick Six was Kareem McKenzie's fault, not Eli's. Reality is, though, that the Giants' offense was utterly ineffective in the second half and Manning got outplayed by Grossman.
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Although Bradshaw is a beast
I always thought starting him over Jacobs was a mistake. I think Jacobs sets a great tone and A.B’s change of pace would make him more successful.
Exactly
Let BJ wear down that defensive line and then unleash Bradshaw when they’re gassed. BOOM. 3rd and 1 is a no brainer give it to Jacobs every time.
by NCGiantFan on Sep 12, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I Like To See Scott on 3rd Down
I like to see Scott as the 3rd down back. He has a gear that even bradshaw does not and I think he could open up a lot for a very poor 3rd down offences. Rember Parcells change Giants 3rd down play with a rookie name Dave Miggett. I thing Scott could do the same.
Canty called out his teammates?
When, who, how, and why?
"The Jets signed LT!" "No, LT is retired."
I've been worried about the OL for a couple
of years.
Are we SOL there, or does it just need more time together to gell?
Time will tell.
They have a legit reason to need time
But the interior of the line looked lost. I’m holding off right now.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Canty said:
“Understanding what we represented and to do what we did out there today, it’s embarrassing. … unacceptable in every regard.”
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
Canty said it all........
And I am concerned about his quote that the ’team needs to listen to Coughlin"……..that is a very bad indication………could get ugly fast.
TCB
No his point was
They keep doing the things the coaches tell them they shouldn’t do. He was putting it all on the players.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
How 'bout a wet willie
for the coaching staff! They look like they are still in preseason mode!
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
+10000000000000000000000
Killdrive, Fewell and Coughlin all sucked
by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
yes and yes
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
+100000000000000000000000000000000
PATHETIC This team is poorly coached. TC can say the right things. The bottom line is they don’t listen.
One of these times
Eli’s gonna have a tipped pass actually hit the ground right? RIGHT???
why did Eli check off into that play
It was 3rd and 12. Nicks would have gained 2 or 3 yards at the most.
The corner was 6-7 yards away from him.
He makes that corner miss, he’s got the first and more.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasted talent
Jacobs should have gotten more carries yesterday, especially on the short yardage plays. C’mon, 6’4 260 and you don’t run him??? This was a bad loss, but hopefully a learning experience. Third down conversions killed us. We looked like the Redskins of last year. If you look at Grossmans starts while with the redskins he has throw for 300+ yds in them. He is a decent QB, but we should have stopped him. Secondary looked very lost, letting guys get so open.I’m hoping that this will be a one game thing!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 12, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions
Things Im in defense of:
Brandon Jacobs: Six carries for 29 yards. The big guy ran hard. Question is this. He averaged 4.8 yards per carry to Ahmad Bradshaw’s 3.4. In 2010 he averaged 5.6 to Bradshaw’s 4.5. When do the Giants start giving Jacobs the ball more often?
I like BJ too..but this was the exact same case when Jake was starting and AB was spelling. The 2nd guy always seems to get the “tired” defense. and/or the second guy always acts as a change of pace to the defense.
Antrel Rolle: I really don’t care about the seven tackles. A veteran guy and a supposed Pro Bowler can’t go and spear a defenseless receiver laying on the ground in the fourth quarter of a seven-point game. Especially when simply touching him down makes it fourth down and gives the Giants the ball back. Rolle’s dumb penalty led to Washington’s game-clinching score. That, simply, is inexcusably bad football. Rolle made all sorts of noise after the game about how he didn’t lead with his helmet. When he watches the film he will see that he most certainly did.
Here it sounds you are more upset with the Giants game overall than just Rolle. Yea i HATED that bonehead play. We were on the verge of a key stop when it happened..but Rolle did PLENTY well that game. Coverage was above what i expected as a nickel defenseive back. and boy did he fill at the line of scrimmage the entire game in run support. But I do agree..that penalty make me slang his name!
My notes: JPP did ok. He wasnt a force early, kind of got bullied around a bit….but when the game was on the line…his energy and grit outlasted his opponents’ and he won the battles when it came towards crunch time.
Ballard: Wow. You surprised me buddy!
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Ballard
I think we have a winner.
JPP did a great job, stepped up when needed!! Great energy all game!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 12, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I said in preseason he is a big, really good blocker, and his hands look incredibly soft
I know he will be fine and the Gmen will be fine going with him as a starter. I had no doubts about it.
KG needs to make sure we use him appropriately moving forward.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
doesnt ballard seem slow or lucky when he caught those?
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 12, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
no
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
well, he's not particularly fast
but those catches weren’t luck though.
by giantsnetsmets on Sep 12, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yea Rolle definitely played well, even the throw to Armstrong was good coverage but a good throw
but that play was too big, it basically negated anything good he did.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Rolle made many good plays
Just one big stupid one. He was all over the run game, though.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
yea..emotionally it did take away all good thoughts of ROlle
but i after thinking about it.. he was pretty solid on D
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
It's that the play was unnecessary
If he got flagged trying to do something, OK
But to get flagged for no reason, he’s better than that.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Romo Rolle
Rolle has Romoitis….great play most of the game….bonehead play when its critical.
Hope Rolle finds cure for Romoitis.
i have no problem with what Rolle did
I have a problem with the call. If Rolle doesnt go hit him, the guy gets up & runs in for a touchdown. Football is physical, its not 2 hand touch.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
that's true
but you have to know the rules. Tho I do agree with the rule, there’s really no sense in diving at a player on the ground with your helmet when in this case, all you need to play is two hand touch, they punt we get the ball back.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
That's nonsense
The receiver was already down on the ground. Rolle had to dive to the ground to end up with a helmet to helmet penalty. He could have pulled off and make a benign contact. All that was needed was a one handed touch.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Did you actually watch the game?
Rolle was lost in space in coverage. His zones were to flat, and he wasn’t in the right spot.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
BJs lack of carries
another FAIL for TC and KG. TC is loyal and STUBBORN to a fault. It’s a detriment to the success of this team.
We weren't "on the verge of a key stop"....we HAD the stop....
And Rolle gave it away with his macho hit. The guy was down, and just a touch and the play is over. Also Dion Grant needs to start wrapping up and tackling rather than throwing his body at guys and assuming they’ll go down. He did his human projectile routine deep in Giants territory and the receiver bounced off him and went another eight yards. Neither of these guys are rookies, and both of those plays were just going for the “impressive” hit rather than knowing what you’re doing. One can argue about whether the rules should be what they are or not, but both teams know them (or should) going in and basic fundamentals still count for more than macho hits anyway.
Wet Willie to whoever decided no flyover at the game.
Weak.
I’ve said it before, but if I were Brandon Jacobs I would be pissed. Although, there is no guarantee that he could have done anything more on the short yardage runs running behind that OL…
I like Ballard, always have.
Not sure Eli deserves a full Wet Willie. He made plays when some of his teamates didn’t.
Perry Fewell’s name needs to be specifically called out in the Wet Willies section.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
No flyover shocked me. i was waiting
For it, and was sure it was coming. Then, nothing. What a pitiful first game.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1000000000000000000000
why is there no flyover on 911?
Perry Fewell’s name needs to be specifically called out in the Wet Willies section.
AGREE! Once again his game plan and play calling was TERRIBLE. He’s terrible.
This has the feelling.....
of last years team! I’ve been saying it for awhile now. It’s time to move on form Coughlin. And in moving on from Coughlin we can move on from Gilbride too. Coughlin may be saying all the right things but the bottom line is………and Chris Canty said for us all to hear………the team is not listening. It’s time for a new voice. Unfortunately, we have to waste another season away before we will see a new Coach. Giants had to have this game and get going fast…..now they will be lucky to be 1-1 going into the Philly game. One more thing………no QB can be successful if he’s uner pressure all day so don’t put too much blame on Eli. He made his mistakes but the O line didn’t help at all.
TCB
The Giants need to stop the tip toeing and start negotiating with Cowler now. Though some here on Big Blue think Gilbride is some genius he proved yesterday he has no clue how to control the clock and the game. The offensive line is a mess and we are depleted on defense to put the much needed pressure on Grossman. This team will be lucky to go .500 so I guess the high point will be a decent draft pick.
Nobody here thinks Killdrive is a genius
In fact I would say more than 50% would not mind the Giants parting ways with Killdrive. However the Giants Management is very slow to change coaches especially one that helped us win a SB. Unless we let go of TC Killdrive will be here because although I feel he is average, he does have a decent track record and TC and Giant Management are loyal
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Its early but
This team is really poorly coached, TC talks all kinds of tough discipline but his teams make the same mistakes over and over and over. Of course we let it play out but no way no way if this team does not make the playoffs that he keeps his job they have to fire him! I dont care about loyality, this was a team in 2008 looking to put together and dynasty and one dumb ass shoots himself and they have never been the same why? failure to adjust to the players they have and always playing away from their strengths not towards them like yesterday with BJ no carries and zone coverages.
by NYG86-90-07 on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Not Convinced it's Coaching
except maybe on D. These coaches won the SB, except we had a great D coordinator that year and in 08 when Giants were also great. Ever since Spags left and Plax shot himself, team has not been the same. But, I will give PF a pass for now because he’s missing Tuck and Osi in that game and the Giants D is all built around pressuring the QB. That’s hard when you’re missing your 2 pro-bowl DEs. Plus their top CB is out for season. On O, KB has made it one of the top scoring units in football every year. But I put the offensive problems on JR. He has spent so much money and attention on the D last few years, but what has he done on O the last few years? Nicks… and that’s it. It’s been obvious for a couple years the Oline is getting old. We didn’t really address that. For any SB hopeful, the Oline HAS to be a strength of your team. It has always been our strngth but not at present. How can you consistantly run or pass without a great line. And in terms of weapons, aside from Nicks, JR just keeps plugging in young middle round picks hoping someone will surprise. Steve Smith did but now he’s gone. Manningham is ok. But the Giants don’t have a lot of scary weapons on Offense. Nobody is going to stay honest against us. They are going to stack the box and dare our recievers to get open and we have to hope our Oline holds up.
by NYStateofMind on Sep 12, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally Agree.....
Whatever blackmail material Gilbride has on TC it must be good. If TC won’t give him the boot, then Coughlin needs to go to.
Why doesn’t Gilbride have a Wet Willie?
Offensive line definitely needs time to gel
and I still think Webster’s a very good corner, but when he’s forced to play 10 yards off the ball he gets torched. I’m sure there’s corners in the NFL that have no problem playing this style of coverage, but that’s not Web.
I’d say give it time and it won’t be that way, but its been that way since the 4th quarter of the 2nd Eagles game last year and I have no idea why. I’ll hope that it was just cuz they wanted to play zone cuz no Tuck and Osi, but that doesn’t make any sense.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It was 10 yards off the camera shot
I did not see him on the field in the 1st half – he was busy covering open space as Fewell instructed.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
exactly, I blame Fewell for that
the guy’s one of the better bump and run corners in the game but he’s obviously not a zone corner.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
That zone...
looked very unimpressive all day. Moss was just sitting in it.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 12, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It's TC
Give him 4 weeks and he’ll find a DC to play a softer zone
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Agreed completely.
A good coach plays to their players strength.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Fewell's secondary was not impressive at all in this first game
he better step it up with his schemes & coverages
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
If most of yall remember.
He was his best when spaggs had him playing bump man. His recovery speed isnt great, hence why he somewhat struggles in off man/zone. But that td play was not his fault..safety was supposed to be over top. Just putting that out there!
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I remember that he was almost off the team, cause of the Tim Lewis era
Got him on inactive list in 07
Why we are playing that style again is a mystery
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Giants secondary
Sucks at playing zone. I cringe at every pass play. Watching these guys pass off receivers to each other, o ly to have the receiver sit down in a big soft spot, or run to where a safety is not, does not inspire any confidence in this system or the players playing in it.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They can't stop anybody since Fewell became DC
It doesn’t who is covering and don’t blame it on injuries because they got torched last season also.
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
by TrueBlue777 on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't blame Webster or the O-Line
Grossman picked on him? I think Grossman picked on the WRs and TEs with absolutely no one covering them. Webster, when in the camera frame, made Grossman make perfect throws.
2 of the 4 sacks were on the last drive, on Diehl. The failure was to have a hot WR on the blitz. Or to run anyone over the middle. Fletcher or McIntosh blitzed every play in the 4th, the Giants did ZERO to adjust.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
When receivers are.........
WIDE open all day even Trent Dilfer can look GREAT!!! Where was our coverage all DAY LONG!!!!?
TCB
Sure looked that way...
this is the stuff that should get worked out in the film room.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 12, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
and needs to be...........
Corrected FAST or else the other teams will be throwing the ball all day long on us……man 1 guy(Thomas) should not make that huge a difference. Ross and Webster have to be better…….
TCB
Its not just Thomas hurt.
hat puts safety at cb and backup safety starting. [AND mlb out. Rook did decent but was out of position on a few plays. (his pursuit angle on the Hightower TD run. And when in middle zone covg he floated in space instead of drifitng towards threats in his zone]…. AND Nickel cb(spoon) out. Prince is just a what if type discussion. But yes guys have to step up
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
I posted in the other thread
about the run / pass ratio… but its even more obnoxious when its broken down by half. 19 carries split between Bradshaw / Jacobs, and Eli played like crap… I’m surprised it was as close as it was.
your mom goes to college
Eli was bad, but he didn't have a chance too often
Our QB was never allowed to get comfy, we gave theirs a freaking La-Z-Boy
That’s the game right there
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Grossman was hit hard
4 sacks I think, plus numerous hard hits. But it’s easy to get rid of the ball when guys go uncovered through their entire route.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Grossman was pressured all day long
especially in the first half. Eli needs to be protected better, yes, but I’m not going to put an 18 / 32 performance on the O line alone and Grossman was certainly under at least as much pressure as Eli was. The protection needs to be better, but it wasn’t THAT bad.
In the alternate reality that I’m creating for myself today though, none of this matters because the Giants ran the ball 25 times in the second half, so QB pressure wasn’t an issue.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
4 sacks and 7 QB hits for both teams
But Giants got two sacks on one possession and a third on the prior possession. Seemed to me like Giants pressure stepped up in 2nd half. I’m a firm believer that you have to get after the QB early, especially mid tier and lower guys.
Even the worst QBs can play well these days, you don’t want them getting confident.
But I think you’re right in that our DBs don’t play to the pressure. We want to challenge teams to go over the top. Trust that the DL won’t give them the time for that. You can sprinkle in zone when you want to shake it up, but if the opponent feels like they can go over the middle for 10-15 yds why bother going deep.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
like we talked about before
our pass rush was good ,but inconsistent. We weren’t able to continously get pressure and that let Grossman get into a rhythm,
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
to be honest I don't think anyone could expect any different sans Tuck
if he was in there I’d really be concerned about that. With Tuck in there you have to double team him and not JPP, so that’s really a gigantic difference.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. That's why tuck is a gamechanger.
But alas, we had to make due, and it was admirable I guess. I remember Linval getting some great pressure as well…all it meant was the secondary needed to step up and while they didn’t do terribly, Grossman was on his game yesterday.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I keep telling myself
That and maybe they were trying to protect for Jones at MLB, give up the underneath stay away from the big play
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
it definitely seemed that way
and made a liar out of Fewell who said he’d change nothing. Unless that IS the defense, which makes me have a sad.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
plain and simple
Eli was bad. He has no excuses.
.....but we played Grossman and the Skins
….not the Ravens or the Packers. That’s why I don’t think everyone who lost in week 1 is in the same boat.
Overall I agree. Biggest concerns are the secondary and the O line. Eli was scrambling every play it seemed. I hope that will get better with time.
High points were Ballard and Hynoski.
4th and 1, gonna pound the middle, why don’t we go with the Jacobs freight train? We weren’t trying to hide the play at all. Jacobs looked good.
My hope is that the O line gets used to each other and starts stepping up and we can pull a couple wins before our secondary starts getting healthy again.
Eli needs to stop hearing footsteps
He was stepping up even when Orakpo (0 sacks) was not close.
If he is not comfortable in the pocket, how about a rollout (0 of those as well).
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Tell that to Gilbride.......
3rd and 1, 4th and 1 and he calls the same stinkin’ handoffs to Bradshaw….c’mon now! this is the NFL……Teams know your habits. You need to be open minded as a Coordinator.
TCB
always takes 3 seconds to make the handoff too
How about 4 WR, spread the D, quick handoff to Jacobs up the middle?
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
or how about........
ANYTHING different from what you called the last time. It’s just ridiculous!
TCB
omgggg
Dont even mention the 4th and 1. Wtf would you put your fb in motions laterally (taking away all forward momentum) then put him right in froont of the hole you intend to run towards… ALL while spreading the line while the skins played stout in the middle and edges. How about lineup in a power I or a regular effin I and have defenst guess where your going! Or just power it down the middle!!!!
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
KG looked senile with his play calling yesterday
for the most part, I’m usually neutral with KG. Sometimes he’s good & sometimes he’s really bad.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
I been saying this for years
The problem with Killdrive is you either get his A game or his F game, there is no inbetween
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I remember you are a big advocate of that...
I may have to join your team for good then.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Nice to see our old friend Scott Chandler
killin it for the Bills at TE.. 5 for 63 yds 2 TDs .
wont say I told ya so. Some hope in Ballard though.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
they don't have KG running that offense...:)
we give up some ballers, some other teams know how to use our fodder effectively than this coaching staff (Ryan Grant, Shiancore comes to mind).
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Grant I can see , crowded backfield.
But I called this kid last yr over Bear but unfortunately the bigwigs didnt see it that way.
:o/
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Am I the only person who thinks Kerrigan just made a play on the INT?
They ran that quick pass 1000 times yesterday and Kerrigan didn’t bite on it the last time.
Pathetic
No
you gotta give credit where its due, Kerrigan made a great play on that one. Also Grossman deserves credit too. Sure there were guys open, but he also made some really nice throws. If he plays like that all year the Redskins are going to the playoffs.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Grossman gets a kudos
He had open targets 50% of the time, but the other 50% he delivered perfect balls while being pounded. Our hits yesterday were real hits – no pushovers
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
'Give the other guys some f'ing credit'
Yeah, we didn’t play well, but that’s the best I’ve seen the Redskins in some time…Grossman was slinging it in there, with some decent pressure. I was impressed. Giants need to shore some things up, but let’s see how they look next week…When an offense is on fire, and we have 6 starters out on D, it usually points to a long day.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 12, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
give al the creit to McKenzie.......
For totally missing his block. He’s laying on his bellie because he didn’t surge far enough to bet Kerrigan down……..How many years is McKenzie in the league???
TCB
he couldn't make the block cuz Kerrigan moved out the way
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Actually looks like are old friend Barry tipped Skins D off as to what was coming next according to MG
“Manning sees the Redskins’ seven-man blitz coming, so he walks forward and yells something to his lineman. (It was either "Block it!" or "Rocket!" Tough to tell.) The ‘Skins defenders trade knowing looks, linebacker Rocky McIntosh tells cornerback DeAngelo Hall to move forward on Hakeem Nicks because the quick throw is coming and Cofield looks right at Kerrigan and S Oshiomogho Atogwe, who were over Kareem McKenzie.”
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
some things are just bad luck
But considering it was his first game at OLB, you think they would have forced him to cover at least once.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
he was covering Ballard on that one catch
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Nah
It was a great play… those things happen and even then most of the time the ball doesn’t pop straight up in the air.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what you get with.....
a Gilbride offense. I am so tired of the WR screens that never seem to get a 1st down. THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD………towards the 1st down markers NOT towards the sidelines. You risk fumbles, interceptions, and no yardage gains.
TCB
A screen implies blockers
It’s just a 0-yd pass
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
the WR screens were very, very effective yesterday and got plenty of first downs
those are set up plays to throw the ball downfield, but the blocking was never there to throw it down field later on.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
That's what I saw too
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Those were really more of quick outs
And they were effective. Should have thrown them later in the game when we were being blitzed to death. I recall them all early.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Nicks got 6 yards everytime, it seemed like.
Dude is a stud.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 12, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Play the sticks!
It is getting tired…that WR screen. How about a true screen to a TB out of the backfield Dallas and Philly use it to perfection. C’mon Gilbride let go!
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 12, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Dallas and NYJ ran them against the blitz all last night
Both of ours looked good – 3 blockers out, D-line fooled. Should have ran them every 3 plays until they stopped blitzing
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
quick throws work
the Giants only seem to go to a quick throw passing game against Dallas, its no wonder that Eli’s always putting up 300+ yards against then.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I agree
Nicks and Manningham are both dangerous with the ball in their hands but sometimes they wear that play out.
Pathetic
not just the screens
slants, back shoulder throws, outs toward the sideline. The slant is only a part of Cowboys games, but the other stuff is usually there. What the hell happened.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I think 0 backshoulder throws and slants yesterday
But not more than 1 of those combined. The middle of their defense was being abandoned frequently. Fletcher and MacI never blitzed so much in their lives.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
That's the fact
Those plays have high risk, a pick is a pick 6 almost every time (the CB has a wide open lane with just the QB to beat)
The more you use it, the more risk that someone doesn’t bite and you get burned
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
actually
the more u use it, the more u force the DB to play closer to the line of scrimmage. When he gets up close, thats when you attack over top & score big TDs.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
While I hated the playcalling in general yesterday
between Nicks and Manningham, those little passes are pretty effective… and throwing downfield from your own 5… not sure about that
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
they call those plays........
too much……….most teams go downfield like the Skins did ALL day against us. Quick screens should not be run very often. How about a few slant passes instead???
TCB
That's how Brees and Rodgers put up 4000 yds every year
You blitz, they slant into the opening.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I wouldnt disagree with that
they do run them a lot, and I have always found the lack of slant patterns puzzling. Looking at the replay, it was 3rd and 11… I think I’m starting to agree with you more on this one…
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Wet Willie
short yardage play calling…..way to run plays right into the teeth of the D
We defon
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 12, 2011 9:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
we definitely need to give K Phillips some Kudos.
For a strip pass defensed. And some pulverizing hits.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 12, 2011 9:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What did 2011 Boley do with 2010 Boley?
He’s all over the run game. And early on, I noticed him on the strong side and Kiwi on the weak a bunch of times – and its not because the TE was switched. Just a note of interest.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Boley is gonna be very good this year
and I was surprised to see #57 out there a lot.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yes. He got to taste some QB
But mostly in coverage.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
i was wondering about him
didnt think he flashed enough to take over for Paysinger but I guess he did.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Kudos and Blimp Rides
Kudos to the OL for earning the first blimp ride of the regular season.
Ballard
Oh, and Ballard showed the kind of toughness Travis Beckum can only dream about
OK you Beckum supporters, take that. Good catching, good blocking and toughness. Becks should be gone. Now.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions
so easy to say things when a guy isn't playing
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Here we go again
1. Beckum rarely plays because he is a wuss. You said he was as tough as AB. Not on this planet.
2. When he does no results
OK, now give me your opinion as if it was fact. Fact is no production from Beckum and as of now, even KG probably sees Ballard as #1. Then again, KG does not even know what a TE is.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Beckum isn't playing cuz he's hurt
if Beckum’s a wuss, Tuck is a wuss. And I’m done. Not gonna argue with a Francesca who likes to put a player down when he’s injured and not on the field so its easy to say get rid of him.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
No
Once again you distort.
He does not play well, never has. That is why I am down on him. Unlike you, nothing personal. You are married to this guy despite lack of productivity. Bad results=bad player. This is a business, a sport, not personal.
I was a Barden fan but thus far, he has not done much. He is next on the list if he does not produce. I do not continue to support players that do not produce results. What I think does not count as much as what is real, what I see.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Not going to kill Beckum for being injured
However Eli has zero faith in the guy, so even if he was on the field I doubt he would do very much.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
its soooo easy, ain't it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
IT is easy
everyone sees it but you.
Serious question. Are you Travis Beckum because there’s no other explanation why you always defend him.
Buddy, let it go.
He won’t listen. Don’t waste your time.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
everyone seems to be about 4 or 5 consistent Giants naysayers
I know I’m not alone in what I’m thinking about Beckum, but hey, just keep bobbing on those apples
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Really dude? This is reason?
1. Beckum rarely plays because he is a wuss
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
believe it or not it is
its sad, really.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Ladies
1. No, not what I said.
2.Look at all the other comments. On balance, down with Becks. Believe whatever you want.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
don't backpedal now boobie, we know what's there.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Learn English
Back peddling means taking back what you said.
Not what I said, not taking it back. Beckum cannot block because he is a wuss. Clayton was a better blocker at a lower weight. He is strong enough, look up his combine.
Again, look at all the other comments.
Then again, you don’t like facts. Only your opinion seems to matter.
In the end, we will see what happens.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Jints Fan
No reason to attack another commenter because he misused a word. Grow up and stop trying to be smarter than everybody else.
I am getting tired of the tone of a lot of the comments from this game. EVERYBODY needs to chill.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
a rec for the Editor in Chief.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoa man, I'm chill, I think YOU need to chill.
/wild_eagle’d
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Whoa, you can't talk to the ruler of all things like that.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah?
Want me to troll? Because I'll troll!!! I'll troll you into the depths of hell then TROLL myself outta there!
No but really I’m just joking with him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
It should say:
Want me to troll? Because I'll troll!!! I'll troll you into the depths of hell
then troll myself outta there!
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
LOL
I know, I perhaps should have used sarcasm font as well.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the sarcasm font is difficult man.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Its funny how you criticize one person for attacking another commenter and trying to be smarter than everybody else but you ignore it when some certain others do it over and over and over and over again.
Just an observation Ed.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Moshe
To be honest, I try to ignore most of it. The truly sad fact is that during the first couple of years this site was in existence I used to love digging into the comments and getting involved in the back-and-forth. Now, the tone is often so hateful and a lot of the commenters spend so much time being complete jerks to each other that the truth I don’t enjoy reading the comments on my own site.
Fact is, I stay out of here a lot more than I should because I can’t stand the tone.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
im real sorry i missed those days
truth is. Most of us love & respect what you do Ed. & we’d like to here some more of the day-to-day banter.
But, aint that the way it always go. A small minority ruin it for the rest of us.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
yes
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry. I hate you Ed,
you're an awful human being
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
the common denominator
is Rorschach44
by GMen56-11 on Sep 12, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow,
just attack someone for no reason why don’t you. Very classy, you must be proud.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair point.
I’m sorry you feel that way. I think you do a great job running the site though, if its any consolation.
People will always have differing opinions. The problem is when it becomes personal, and when people have disagreements they should listen to what the other person is saying and consider it, rather than completely ignoring it and discrediting the opinion by trying to diminish the person.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Thanks Ed.
Can’t speak for everyone, but sometimes I need a good ol’ 2×4 to the head to remind me what’s what.
The reality is that whatever our differences of opinion, we all want the same result here. Unfortunately, when we let our emotions run away with the keyboard, some truly regrettable discourse ensues.
I think the overall discussion tends to be mostly respectful highly entertaining. However, when pride and ego rear their ugly heads it does tend to overshadow the rest.
I think it would benefit everyone if we could all follow this simple guideline:
After typing out a post or reply, STOP. Re-read it and ask ‘does this post add value to the conversation?’ If not then don’t post it. Most of us do this already and I’m just saying from now on, me too.
Thanks for the reminder.
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 12, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, Blue
That is the standard I have always asked for. I know everybody gets emotional, especially when the Giants lose and you want everybody under the sun cut, fired, maimed or whatever. But, yes ‘add value to the conversation’ is the key. Do that, everybody wins.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed, is it possible to have an option where...
we could self edit the comments that we have made? This would help for spelling, missing words and the occasional foot-in-mouth comment that the writer quickly realizes after pressing the send key might have been better filed in the dustbin of history.
Well said.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
He’ll always respond with an LOL when he has nothing to say in response. Just a typical defense mechanism. Some people are born and bred with cognitive dissonance.
Let them be. Dealing with them is just aggravating.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Sep 12, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes Beckum is Soft
thats not even up for debate.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Still can be a good player tho
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
it most definitely is not up for debate, Beckum is not soft
but I’m not going to bother, again.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Substantiate your claim with facts
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
quantify toughness
or are yards after a catch still equal to toughness.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty low to be cheap shotting a guy liek you are when he's hurt.
Wait till he gets on the field, and if he doesn’t produce, then bash him. How do you know he hasn’t improved this offseason and can make an impact catching the ball? Gotta give him a a chance before you say he’s no good. Fair is fair.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you see him in preseason?
Nothing. Was yelled at by coaches. TC even commented that he should know the routes by now.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Still taking shots at a guy who hasn't played a meaningful game yet.
Hatred breeds contempt. You can’t justify anything you’ve said till he gets on the field and gets meaningful playing time. Until then, you’re speculating based on opinion, which means about as much as a used tampon.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Ballard......
made a strong statement yesteday. Not only can he block and catch but he’s a tough SOG!!! We haven’t seen anything from Beckum and if Ballard stays healhty I don’t think we will ever see Beckum again. Way to go Ballard!
TCB
Rorsch
Problem with Beckum is that he spends too much time on the sideline. He always has something going on … hamstring, ankle, whatever that causes him to miss time. Talented, but not reliable.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I know and its frustrating as hell
but I don’t know why the guy’s toughness is a question. Why would anyone play when they’re injured? You don’t help the team that way.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
he wasn't injured it was a cramp
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
TE was not the problem yesterday
So who cares weather Beckum is tough, Guys are not wusses because they get hurt, Hopefully Beckum can get on the field and show us what he can do. I think we need to worry about our 3rd WR
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
They fixed that in game.
Maybe the one adjustment they made in game, benching Cruz as the 3rd WR, and putting in Hixon. Cruz can’t catch. I think Devin Thomas should be the 4th, occasional 3rd switching with Hixon. He’s the next best weapon to Manningham.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I for one have never called him soft because he doesnt play.
its when he plays that lead me to believe he is soft, i cant knock him for being inmjured though.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Let's start with Eli
Recall he played most of a season with a foot injury?
And AB, the guy to whom you compare Becks often has played injured.
I don’t know about this one but Becks is out too often.
Yes, other people play injured. Not saying it is always good but sometimes, ya gotta man up.
As for his toughness, again, Clayton is a better blocker because he tries harder.
Combine of 28 bench presses, more than some linemen. He is strong. So why can’t he block? Attitude and desire.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
attitude and desire
blocking is like rebounding. You gotta want it.
Rorsch
The guy’s toughness is a question because a) in 3 years he has done absolutely nothing and b) he always has some small injury that keeps him off the field. It’s really pretty simple.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Yoda
Perhaps your words will settle this. But I doubt it. Some people ignore facts and stick with their recall of reality.
Now am I speaking of our fellow contributors or TC? Or TQ? Or KG?
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you.. truth right there.
But alas, cognitive dissonance will once again rear its ugly head. Maybe the response will be another LOL from our masked wonder.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I think
we’re talking about two different kinds of toughness.
You guys are right, Beckum is like the kid on the high school football team that usually cried “tendonitis” and would always sit out. He just really doesn’t seem to want to try to seize this opportunity and doesn’t care that much that he’s not playing (almost reminds me of D Thomas).
But on the field, he is a tough mudder. When he IS healthy, dude will make a catch wearing a coat of defenders and can truck with the best of them. We’ve seen it before, just too infrequently.
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
well at least someone gets what I'm saying.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
mental toughness vs physical toughness
although they both have the word toughness, two completely different things in my book.
Beckum is physically tough on the field and fights for catches and yards alike, but he’s a bit of a puss cause he’d sit on the sidelines if he stubbed his toe.
I hear ya.
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
when?
when has the dude make a catch wearing a coat of defenders?
for the few games he's been out there,
he’s made a couple tough catches in his time. Again, he hasn’t really done much to support his case but you guys are ready to cut the guy. Same thing with Sintim with a lot of posters.
Not really much to defend, I agree with you, but there’s not much to attack either. Thats the point, there’s not much at all.
Let him get healthy and see if he can be the guy we were hoping he could be. Cause I don’t know who you think is better to replace him with if you just let him walk.
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
I don't understand
Free’s attraction to Beckum. Beckum has done NOTHING as a Giant!
are you kidding
its football. Players play injured all the time. You have such an unknown need to defend Beckum that you use NO LOGIC!
double sigh. SMH
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis as I said
NO LOGIC! You use no logic defending Travis.
don't see how its any different than people using no logic to attack Eli Manning.
and mind you, I’m not saying anybody’s right or wrong to do so, but that’s what it is.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Talent
has never been exhibited in a Giant uniform in a game, or have I missed something
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
part of playing
is getting on the field. something that Beckum has failed to do.
We missed Beckum last night
Needed a quick guy over the middle to counter the blitzes.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
You will see Beckum
on the unemployment line
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe
I’ll give him 16 games to show his value.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
3rd yr
with the team, hasn’t done a thing
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
rarely plays
Has been targeted maybe 10 times on real routes, half of which Eli tried to throw it over his head. Watch tape of all his rookie catches. He’s not a blocker. You need to use him correctly.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
How can you miss a guy who has never proved he can play?
Granted, Killdrive has no clue how to use a TE let alone an HBack, but Beckum has never flashed period. Granted he has been hurt a lot, but when he is in there, it looks like Eli does not trust him and throws the ball to other even when he is open. Unless we get a new OC Beckum will be wasted on the Giants he is never going to get an opportunity. We are fine with Ballard becuase he is what Killdrive likes in a TE, someone who can block and occasionaly goes and catches a pass
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Look at his leaping catches rookie year
If you throw him more than a screen, he can do something with it. As you said, the coaching is the greater problem. Barden is 6-6, and can’t get a fade route in the end zone. That is not his fault either. Cris Carter made a career out his coaches realizing he was 6-6.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
yet he was only 6-3
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
all this beckum talk is funny to me
the guys not playing. Had no impact on yesterdays game (or any game yet). I’d porefer we get back to the discussion at hand? Why we’re not attacking the middle of the field with WRs, the TEs that are playing, or a RB. Especially when they blitz. Let the reciever (whoever that may be) go to the spot vacated by the blitzing LB and wait for the ball to get there.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
I still LOL at this notion
that Boss and Becks played the same position
and now Ballard and Becks play the same position.
just b/c they’re called “Tight Ends” doesn’t really mean much to me.
TeamJPP
What I found most troubling
was the Grossman’s passes were thrown tight and caught. And Eli’s, for the most part, were ducks, inaccurate, dropped, etc. etc.
Washington's WRs made some amazing catches while getting hammered.
I couldn’t believe they were able to hang on most of the time.
Pathetic
I didn't even know they had Gaffney, he was always a decent third WR
their receivers aren’t bad and their TEs are solid pass catchers.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I agree...his TD was a nice catch
If Webster’s arms were an inch longer then he defends that pass.
Pathetic
if CWebs arms were an inch longer...
he gets an interception before they get close enough to the goal line.
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Grossman's always thrown a nice ball
and aside from “dropped” I dunno what you’re getting at with Eli. A lot of passes were miscommunications, but when he actually had time the ball was accurate.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Eli did the best.......
he could under all that pressure. He made his mistakes but the O line was dreadful yesterday. They have a lot of work to do.
TCB
That throw to Nicks in the first quarter was awesome
I forget sometimes how much of an arm Eli has
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Eli's best throw.........
is the Deep pass……..yet Gilibride rarely calls for it……….I woulld call for it more often. You have Nicks and Manningham who can stretch the field………use them!
TCB
+1
We are the only team in the NFL that will not throw up a deep ball to let our WR get it, despite Nicks’ size/strength advantage or Mario’s speed.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
ur both wrong about this
we threw ALOT of deep passes last year. We just didnt complete many of them. My biggest pet peeve from last season was throwing deep on 3rd &1
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
Agreed,
He threw that 50 yards in the air, on the run. And it was strike.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Just change the name of the team
To the NY Beat Ourselves, they are a disgrace to the uniform the way they played yesterday. And I’m tired of hearing about execution. The play calling is the worst its ever been. That Offense and Secondary for that matter look exactly the same in last years debacle no change no imagination just bad calls and players out of position.
NY BEAT OURSELVES
Too funny
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
more like 'The New York Giant Mistakes'
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
by sweatyguido on Sep 12, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I give a wet willy to the commenters
in the 2nd half game thread. Nasty bunch. It wsa sort of like a pit of vipers and they were striking out at fellow posters relentlessly. very poor.
ugh it was awful
good thing they usually only come out on game day then crawl back to where they came from.
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
LOL the first time I read your comment...
I thought you were talking about Joe Buck and Troy Aikman (aka “commentators”) and I was about to respond with a +1
GO BIG BLUE!!! I am an unapologetic Eli supporter. Haters aren't welcome in my corner of the world!
KP & Kiwi
both seemed active and deserving of mention
The Canty Quote
New York Giants make same old mistakes in season-opening loss to Washington Redskins – ESPN New York
Chris Canty packed up his belongings and left FedEx Field, feeling the same type of emotions the New York Giants experienced all too often last season. Angry and beyond frustrated, Canty had no answers for why Tom Coughlin’s team just can’t seem to get out of its own way. “We just made the mistakes that Coach Coughlin continues to tell us that we can’t make,” an exasperated Canty said after a 28-14 season-opening loss to the Washington Redskins. “We continue to do the things that he says we can’t do. At some point, we as a team got to listen.”
Canty
If only words were touchdowns.
the posters here are so clever, that sometimes they don't understand a single word of what they're saying."
"saying you are right when you’re wrong only gives you the right to be wrong"
An optimist is a person that falls off the empire state building and after 50 floor says so far so good!
Ross got used yesterday....
The TD he gave up…WTF? Did he know that the Redskins’ goal is to score more points than us? I didn’t seem like it.
Pathetic
yea. He picked a bad time to take a play off.
How do you not expect that pass at the goal line. You only have but so many opitons. Screen, slant, corner route.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
If you read
I said Ross wasn’t good, either. I singled out C-Web for the simple reason that the Redskins targeted him the entire game. Ross and Rolle did not play well in coverage, either.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree but Antrel is the only one who wants to be better in our secondary
the others give BS effort, Webby conitnues to think his speed can make him recover from anything, if he just playes with solid technique he would be fine.
KP he has officially stopped playing the ball and is more concerned with the big hit…… i saw him slow down on making a play on the ball 2-3 times just so he can size up the receiver for a big hit…… he has to get it together.
Maybe its just time to let Antrel Play deep cause he is the only one that can really make plays on the ball but he is also the only one that is super good in the box, Antrel needs help and its sad to say cause we got all types of talented 1-2nd round picks in the secondary.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Bad Game
What I was most unhappy about was the playcalilng though.
Defensive Playcalling: I do not understand what they were doing with the 3 man rushes. Every time we did that Grossman had like 12 seconds back there and I believe completed 100% of his passes for 10+ yards. I know you don’t blitz every down but the Giants should be rushing at least the 4 D Lineman every play.
I also cannot point to a specific DB on the terrible blown coverages because there was literally no one near the guys to point to. How do you have plays with receivers 5-10 yards from the closest defender all game?
Offensive Playcalling: Abandoning the run was inexcusable. Run stopping was supposed to be Washington’s biggest concern on defense and we proceeded to not run the ball for half of the game.
On the positive note I do like how Ballard looked. And JPP was good, especially since he was double teamed most of the day. Nicks looked good obviously.
Oh, and to all of the people claiming that we are better without Steve Smith and we did not need him, ect: 1-10 on third down makes me disagree more.
the 3 man rush thing
was something I noticed over the course of the whole day (I watched the eagles / giants / cowboys yesterday). It sure seemed to me that rushing 3 guys is a formula for failure, and that was pretty consistent across all the games I watched yesterday. It seemed especially true against Vick… forget about having 3 fat guys chase him around.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
sometimes you are just changing up looks
I’ll forgive that. I maybe recall it 4-5 times, it fooled them once or twice. But you have to send three good rushers.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Yeah I don't even mean it as a criticism really
it was just something I took note of yesterday…. it seemed like a theme across all the games I watched.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
and sometimes
coaches out-coach themselves.
Yup rushing three is the prevent defense
It prevents you from winning
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Kiwi at LB is a Waste of time
especially yesterday, seeing him 20-30 yards down field turns my stomach, why woyuldnt you start him and JPP and rotate a fresh Tolly in…….. and let HErz start at SAM……i just think that decision wasnt good.
KUDOS TO JAQUIAN WILLIAMS FOR STARTING IN THE NICKLE PACKAGE> HE PLAYED WELL.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Kiwi didn't do terribly from what I remember
Jacquain, Jones, and the rest of the rooks were unremarkable in my eyes. Not great, not terrible
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
What we expected, yes?
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I didn't expect more from them. The fact that they were unremarkable is a positive sign
we aren’t talking about how these guys screwed up….because they didn’t really
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope Kiwi will never do Terrible
Too good of a player but with Tuck and Osi out the next option should be him and JPP at end, no question about it…..he still doesnt have LB instincts, I think for yesterday Herzlich should have played the Sam.
Just for yesterday i think Kiwi and JPP would have kept the pressure on all day.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I agree that I'd much rather have him at DE.
I think Fewell and TC were too scared to have 2 rookies starting at 1 position though.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You make a good point.
Herzlich is a different type of rookie though, he doesnt make the same mistake twice. I totally agree on your reasoning as to why they didnt play him.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Tynes
says he needs a few more weeks……why was he kicking then Jerry?
He said that?
Now that pisses me off – it explains why his kickoffs were horrible and don’t get me started on the blocked FG
Pathetic
Seriously? Cut his ass!
Tell him if his replacement isn’t working out he can call us when he gets healthy.
I bet I could find the phone number of a healthy decent experienced replacement kicker on the internet. John Kasay is kicking for the Saints for Chrissakes!
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
by roguetrader on Sep 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG tell me again
why Rhys was cut???
GO BIG BLUE!!! I am an unapologetic Eli supporter. Haters aren't welcome in my corner of the world!
The Giants played on Sunday?
I mean I watched 11 guys line up in white with blue helmets on but it didn’t look like the Giants I was expecting…
There is nothing to add to what Ed said. The offense just didn’t execute (few exceptions) and the D lost to Rex Grossman…
The season is just beginning and I hope that this loss will be enough to make the Giants realize that they are not play like Giants. If they keep not showing up we could have our first losing season since Eli is the starter.
WAKE UP GMEN THE PRESEASON IS OVER!!
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
Pretty scary thought there.....
but I agree. There is no time to waste. Giants have to win some games early to stay in it because once November rolls around nothing but tough tough games and they are not ready for the likes of GB, New Orleans, Pats…….etc……..I am tired of Coughlin. If you take what Canty said…….no one on the team is listening….and that’s bad!
TCB
A couple of thoughts
First, the D-line was excellent considering that it is missing two key pieces. Except for one 22 yard run, they completely throttled Washington’s ground game, and got decent pressure on Grossman.
I think Boley gets a Kwillie. His pass coverage, which is the primary reason he was on the field was terrible. Since Kiwi is a liability in coverage and Jones is inexperienced, the secondary was under tremendous pressure - and did not rise to the challenge. Washington’s final touchdown came on a play where Boley moved up too soon to cover Hightower, and Webster got flat out beaten one on one.
All of our safeties were horrible — never in position to make a play.
AB missed several blocks.
Amid the offensive line woes, I thought Beatty played well — at least I didn’t hear Orakpo’s name called much. Hynoski had a couple of nice blocks. Jacobs also did a decent job in pass protection and ran very strong.
Brian Williams was on the field a lot and seemed lost most of the time.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 12, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
d line was good, secondary not so bad
Rolle’s name did not get called in coverage much, which means he was covering. KP missed some plays, but made two good ones. Gets a “shows improvement”.
Orakpo got 1 hit I believe. Maybe 2. Beatty did what was needed. Eli just has to trust him.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
That's the zone D
Half of those, Webster and Ross were nowhere near the play, coached that way.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
100% of us agree
All except for TC.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Ed nailed it
As usual.
I was particularly happy that he mention Lloyd. Exactly what I thought. Tynes is not that good, never has been.
For emphasis, STs are ridiculous. How come we all see it and they don’t? Nude pictures of TC with Rex’s wife’s feet? Whatever.
In the end, I blame TC. His words notwithstanding, this team is still not cohesive, not performing. Yes we have injuries but even the good players, such as Eli, have their heads in their respective butts. KG’s calls are ludicrous. Etc, like Ed said. This team is a mess. Regardless of whether we win the next few games, this team is a mess.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
You're right, never has been...
The guy is injured. Before getting injured he was making kicks and this preseason he was even booming kick-offs into the back of the endzone. Hopefully he is 100% next week. Don’t understand writing him off right now.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
How did I know you were the one that would bring that up?
Very true. But, he made the one that counted.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
in that weather, I'll forgive him
Better than the Feely misses in Seattle.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
I've forgotten those, on purpose
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Not because of now
I think he has a weak leg, cannot kick out of the end zone/touchbacks even with the moved up line.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
He was this preseason, before he injured his thigh
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
When our incredible STs coach tried a new scheme for blocking for FGs
I think its called OLÉ
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Easy!
He said he was tired after pregame……the kicker!…….OMG…….what was he doing there?He said he needs a few weeks to get into kicking shape!!! LOL …..so a few more weeks of poor kickoffs and missed fieldgoals!
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
I would have cut Tynes on the spot for saying that
The Kicker was tired now I have heard everything
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Needed a snickers
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I guess everyone missed
the kickoff he had yesterday that went out of the back of the endzone, or the other one that went 6 yards deep in the endzone.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Kickers are not running backs
They don’t play hurt.
They’re either healthy or they aren’t on the active roster.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
by roguetrader on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
What I saw yesterday was a lack of a “true leader” on both sides. Tuck was clapping and cheering on the side, but not as a true leader. And on offense forgetaboutit, they played like they don’t know each other…SOMEBODY, ANYBODY needs to step up and be our Ray Lewins, Drew Brees, Fletcher, Brady, Jenkins…somebody.
How do you know
Tuck wasn’t a true leader? I’m assuming you had to have been on the sidelines to make such a declarative statement, are you a member of the Giants’ staff?
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
So you heard their discussions?
I’m seriously asking if that’s the case. What makes you make that statement?
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesnt know
that was one of those shock and awe statement thingys, you know to throw the topic off from a logical discussion about real things……Nice try 89
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
so how the hell does a true leader "clap"?
this should be good….
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
"Tuck was clapping and cheering on the side, but not as a true leader"
HUH???…..u know what…nevermind SMH.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
LMAO..
How can he be a “true leader” in street clothes? He was doing everything that was within his power to get his players pumped, I believe I even saw him talking to the DL a time or two.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I saw Tuck mulitple times
in the defensive discussion on the bench, talking to guys, helping guys out, and he was maybe the only guy that was cheering and yelling. That’s a leader. 89, put down the crack stem.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought so.
Somebody didn’t watch the game… (Looks at 89)
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Sad when an Eagles fan
has more of a grip on the Giants game than an actual Giants fan. I give you credit though, I watched the Eagles game, so we are in the same boat as far as being able to give input on both teams. And I’m fairly certain I’d give some more logical comments than a couple guys over at BGN.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand.
I’m sure you’d have some good input for us over there…
Give me some of your thoughts from the Eagles game.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I wanted to see Vick practice throwing the ball to blue jerseys more
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Haha...
I don’t. I want him throwing to the Green Helmets with wings on em…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
he will
our secondary couldn’t stop a lingerie football team at this point.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, you're quite the pessimist aren't you???
But really I expect the Giants vs Eagles games to be good games.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
the glass has been half empty
since 2008
I expect you guys to beat us. again. Can’t win much when you’re decimated with injuries and your coaching staff couldn’t coach their way out of a wet paper bag
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Still.
As I said elsewhere on this thread you guys could be 0-10 heading into our week 11 matchup and you’d still scare me more than any team in the NFL.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
thank you
no matter if the Giants lose the Rams game, I have the utmost confidence that the Giants will be ready for the Eagles game and make it a good one
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
by NJsandman on Sep 12, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is exactly what I'm trying to say.
I’d love for the Eagles to blow you guys out 59-21 like we did the Redskins, those are fun games (and I’m sure you’d love to see it done by the Giants to the Eagles)… But the truth is close games are as exciting, if not more exciting than blowouts… Keeps everybody involved..
I think the games going to be close, if not it’ll atleast be a good hard fought one by both sides.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I thought the Rams did the same thing the Giants did
and gave up on the run wayyyyyyyyyyyy too fast. The eagles defense looked real susceptible to it. The Eagles pass D looked good like expected.
Eagles offense is explosive, like we know. I mean, how does a qb go 14/32 for less than 200 yards and the team still scores 31 points?!?
Also, not sure if it was just great elusive running, or that the Rams defense can’t tackle, but there was a lot of that
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The Rams ran the ball quite a bit until the last 5-6 minutes actually.
We are susceptible to the run, that’s the flaw with the wide 9 system Washburn runs..
Keep in mind that Desean had 2 drops, 1 of which would’ve been a TD of 80ish yards…
Honestly, McCoy’s a hard guy to get down and Vick’s a hard guy to get down. I don’t think the Rams tackled poorly but they certaintly weren’t great.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
The Rams still ran
but they became more pass heavy, and the runs were 3rd and short when everyone knew that was coming.
Still good game for you guys
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
They became pass heavy in the 4th, but that's how our D is set up.
We’re looking to pile on and force people to throw because honestly it’s hard to throw on our CB’s especially deep and with our DL pinning their ears back and coming 100mph it’s a good formula as long as we’re up of coarse.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
But thanks, it was an exciting game to watch...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
For the most part
Your pass defense didn’t get tested down field at all, I dont recall Bradford throwing anything past 10 yards.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well there was a penalty on Nnamdi where he threw it about 35 yards,
there was a big pass on Nnamdi when he seemed to fuck up on his coverage assignment that was like 20 yards…
For the most part Bradford’s a dink and dunk QB, more so than Pennington, and there wasn’t much open deep either.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I was flipping channels a bit...
but all in all i will take a week one loss to the skins if we can stop the other 6 game slide
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you guys don't end it...
But can you really expect for me to? I really hope Tuck is going to play, even if he’s not a full go because I want to see how Herremans does against one of the better DE’s in football once he’s more comfortable in his new position.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
All streaks must and do end...
well, except for the…. i won’t do it… too much of a low blow.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dearly noted...
I’d trade 2 losses to the Giants this season for the SB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Your o-line is going to get Vick injured if it doesn't improve.
The Rams were getting to Vick with ease, and he was running because he had to. If the Rams had had any sort of outside contain, which they had none, Vick would have been hit a lot worse. I will say though that given time, The one thing that still scares me is Vick to Jackson deep, hard to stop that. And McCoy on those shotgun draws. Vick has a tendency to make defenses back up when he’s in the shotgun, and it opens up a huge amount of running room when they run that draw. It was their bread and butter of the run game yesterday. One other thing. The middle of the defense looked softer than tissue paper. Jenkins and Patterson were getting pushed around by an average at best Rams o-line, and the linebackers were getting blocked, and that was it, they were out of the play. Rams had 98 rushing yards in the first quarter. D-line was getting pushed back off the ball, and the linebackers, if they were blocked, were out of the play automatically. Bradford stayed away from the corners, threw crossing routes over the middle a lot, which is where there’s an obvious whole with the linebackers. Still want to see if the Eagles can be had deep over the middle with their safeties.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well.
If you watch, the OL played much better starting about halfway through the 2nd and in the 2nd half they were killing it… Most of the problem is just that they were bringing more than we could block and that just happens sometimes.
Also they had a lot of outside contain, they had Mikell and the OLB on the opposite side playing contain, Vick would just cut it up the middle. Vick ran because he had two sometimes, but most of the time when he got out of the pocket shit was just wide open and he had to take the yards.
I think come week 3 our OL will be playing very good and that Vick to Desean pass will probably happen, that’s how they open games..
I disagree. The DT’s are pure pass rush now, Jenkins was absolutely dominant, Patterson did get pushed around by Dahl a little though.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I suppose.
To be honest I didn’t watch the DTs all that much. First half they got run all over, the whole defense, no arguing that. Rams abandoned the run in the second half, so who knows how the D would have adjusted in the run game. O-line I would still consider that a major concern, Rams stopped bringing pressure, and tried to drop 7-8 in coverage. A lot easier for 5 lineman to block 3 or 4 than 5 or 6. To me, the Eagles are weak up the middle on both sides of the ball. The DTs are better pass rushers than run stoppers, the linebackers are a ?, and the safeties, though I didn’t see them tested, are inexperienced. The O-line is weak up the middle, which is where a lot of the pressure was coming from early. Amazing how every team in the division has o-line issues. The NFC East might have the top 4 teams in total sacks at the end of the season, just from playing each other.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, the thing is.
that we run the wide 9 and a 1 gap system. Which means we’re pass rushing every down unless it’s a 2nd and inches, 3rd and inches type scenario… This makes us more susceptible to the run… It also allows linemen to get to our LB’s clean…
Most of the pressure came from the right side until Herremans shut shit down and DeVan got comfortable.
But I realize what you’re saying.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
That rookie center was pretty lost too.
He’s definitely got a long way to go. At least pass blocking.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I don't think so.
He looked good, he had only 1 mistake. He had a few really good plays.
the mistakes on the pass blocking came from DeVan.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Ah, my mistake then
He looked really confused in the 1st quarter When Vick was in the shotgun and he had to make the line calls. He was all over the place.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelce made the right calls, and he really made the right blocks.
He did what he was suppose to do and that’s all you can ask.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Will Bradford..........
Even play next week??? He’s going for an MRI on his thumb today and it could be ligament damage.
TCB
I'd wager
that Eli will get outplayed by Bradford’s back up
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll make that bet.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
keep the faith
but the writing has been on the wall. This dude is not worth that contract.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
remains to be seen. I think he played alright. Alot of his incompletions were because he was
throwing it away instead of in the opponents hands….so thats definitely good. didn’t make terrible reads and his deep throws were off the chains.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
he was awesome yesterday, and nothing is ever his fault
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
You're finally learning!
Can you point out what exactly Eli did wrong, aside from a few bad throws here and there? Our WRs dropped passes that were on target. Our OL and RBs played like ass.
You put Tom Brady in there and it doesn’t make a difference considering how much time Eli had in the pocket.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Eli is a flawless human being
getting outplayed by Rex Grossman was just a fluke.
he did nothing wrong yesterday. not one thing.
and yep, gotta say that RBs played like ass especially when the OC takes the ball out of their hands.
Everyone else stinks, but god bless Eli Manning, he does nothing wrong. ever.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea BBI said that
Bravo
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Eli does no wrong
that’s what we’re supposed to say on BBV, right?
TC is an awesome coach
and Eli is on the level of Tom Brady
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Because that's what I said
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
you know.....
its just as funny when everything is Eli’s fault
Nobody wins the Superblow in September.
Talk is Cheap! Play the Game!
LOL LOL LOL
Did I say Eli had a good game? No, he didn’t. But we all saw improvement in his decision making from last year. I don’t see whats hard to understand about that
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Made some bad throws and some good throws
I’ll agree to this, we’ll just wait and see
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Our RB's played?
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. We abandoned it when we went down by a score.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
AJ Feeley?
he’s boom or bust, but it’s a possibility.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'll make that bet as well
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I enjoyed the "Meltdown at the Meadowlands 3" last night.
seriously though…the Giants need to do something about that secondary NOW. They won’t be able to hang with Dez Austin, Jackson, or Maclin.
Pathetic
We better have........
OSI and Tuck for that Philly game because if we don’t get to Vick……….look out!!!
TCB
I enjoyed that too
What was the stat they threw up at the end…Cowboys were 264-0-1 when leading by 14+ in the 4th quarter. Or something like that.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Check that 241-0-1
Well, now they are 241-1-1
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad they play 2 half's
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad :(
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
TC
got his Super Bowl ring….he should have walked away gracefully and on top and handed the reigns to Spags
Yea..i wouldnt have been mad at taht.
I liked (still do) spaggs
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
exactly
we’d be better off right now. Coughlin is a dinosaur
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Rex picked on Fewell....
he didn’t pick on Webster….
this Cover2 / Zone scheme is simply for the birds.
the TD was a good play call w/the other WR screening Cweb….
TeamJPP
w/ the flack that barden caught
from the team and the fans for 1 dropped pass (poorly thrown pass mind you)….i’d be shocked if Cruz is even “active” the next3-4 weeks
TeamJPP
Agreed.
Deactivate him, activate Jernigan, he’s more of a threat anyway.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Ballard is a nice surprise though
JPP IMO played very well. You can’t run on his side….and vs. T Wiliams…i’ll take that every week
TeamJPP
JPP's run stopping is incredible
he’s starting to become another Tuck out there. And I’ve always wondered what it’d be like to have two Tucks.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and they were doubling him and chipping him a lot
in fact, on a couple of occassions Fewell really hung w/ Dline out to dry w/ the 3 man rushes.
and the Oline really jumped on him….but he didn’t go anywhere….that’s a good sign
TeamJPP
And held him a ton
I really hope Tuck is healthy now, because then the Ram’s tackles don’t stand a chance
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
i saw on one play they blatantly held him
and than someone shoved him after the whistle
after that he recorded 2 sacks….
clearly you don’t wanna piss this man off
TeamJPP
A LOT of uncalled holds yesterday....frustrating.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 12, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
JPP won't get the calls till mid season.
When they use his film in the debrief, it’ll change fast.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
And the Redskins T
owes Tolly a dinner the way he was undressing him taking his jersey off
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
???
So it just goes unseen or unnoticed because the officials aren’t looking for it? I know there is holding on every play and it does go for both teams but it is either a penalty or it isn’t. Rolle’s spearing penalty was a bad call too.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 12, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Will it matter if we keep playing these soft soft zones?
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
4th and 5 and he had
the corners 7 yards off the l.o.s.
I mean….why even play the down? just give them the first why don’t you.
TeamJPP
I still think it's TC
He keeps finding these guys.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
well now you know
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL, it's GLORIOUS.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree with the WW to Eli
not that I think he deserves Kudos either.
Just neither
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
That sounds like a Kwillie if there ever was one.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
you expect Eli Manning, a super bowl MVP being paid millions
to outplay Rex Grossman
He deserves the wet willie. I’m sure it will be the first of many on our cruise towards a 4-12 season
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Trolling.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
trolling
because I’m saying things that you don’t want to read
ohhh it will be okay guys! this was just a fluke!
is that better?
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
saying your team will go 4-12. That's trolling buddy.
also shows your lack of confidence in your team as a fan. If you think after 1 game they’ll go 4-12, why even be a fan. It’s a waste, and an insult to those that still believe in the team.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously!
in that case the Steelers are SCREWED!!
by eyerish9299 on Sep 12, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
what a nets fan.....
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed
Travis Beckum looked awesome out there yesterday, btw
oh wait
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
hey!
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
dammit,
leave the nets out of this… its a tough(read run of the mill) season for them right now… praying for the lockout to continue for a full year hoping that we get 2 low first round choices because of it)
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Can someone give me a rational explanation to the following question
What the hell is Tom Quinn still doing on this team?
I mean I’m starting to think that I am missing something here. If the guy is doing is job well which is to coach the ST, why does the ST suck so much? Is it because of the players? I guess not because we have like 50% of the ST from last year.
Tom Quinn is competing for the Worst ST Coach award that was won by the Chargers last year.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
I hate to defend Quinn
but what the hell was wrong with the special teams yesterday? I don’t think they’re trending towards #1 in the league or anything, but I saw them make tackles and really not make any egregious errors that cost them the game.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
the only errors that occured were cuz of Tynes' leg.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Weatherford
Weatherford did have the one horrible punt too. We got lucky that was the drive with the two big sacks.
by Midnight Blue on Sep 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
If you only take that game
The only wet willies go to Tynes and Thomas butthat’s the first time we are seeing stupid mistakes like that and that is on Giunta for not preparing his guys well enough.
The guy should have been fired a long time ago.
New York Giants French blog (with croissants and wine)
I agree with this
if not for the very last punt, I think you’d have to give Weatherford a kudos as well. Up to that point he kicked great. Hixon had a nice return. Coverage really only broke down on one punt return, and it was really due more to the returner making a bunch of nice moves than anything else. Kickoff coverage was fine. I think criticizing ST play is just a (well deserved) reflex at this point.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
We did have a couple ST penalties that killed field position
One was a block in the back in the 1st quarter that moved us from the 40 yard line back to our 20.
The second penalty was a holding that moved us from the 20 to our 10. That’s 30 yards of field position that we gave up because of stupid penalties. These should count against the ST unit’s blunders.
not to mention
failing to field a kickoff which was recovered inside our ten yard line. We were constantly starting inside our 20, either as a result of Special Teams failures or stupid penalties, or both.
so you're gonna blame the coach for a lucky bounce?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
the ball hits the ground on kickoffs in every single game
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why it bounced back towards the kicking team I have no idea, but that’s the Giants luck. 99/100 times that ball bounces toward the end zone and the KR.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually thought
from my terrible vantage point that it might have bounced out of bounds and we get it at the 40
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
sure, taht was there too
but even if you place blame on the coach for that, the special teams was pretty much average and didn’t kill the team.
Since out special teams are pretty much expected not to hurt the team instead of help it, tough to really call them out for what they did.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
not Eli's fault...
He had no time whatsoever to throw the ball and he’s no mike vick so he ain’t runnin anywhere for real. Eli did what he could but again had his positives negated by poor line play , and any WR not named Hakeem Nicks. The defense stunk with exception to our d line which did the best they could . JPP is a monster whom got held a lot but of course the Washington refs were blind. Smh,.. Kenny Phillips is back.Ross sucks C Web trash dookie. And y god y is pete gunta still employed. ???? Some1 please tell me …
by kadensdad on Sep 12, 2011 9:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was at the game...
…and it’s hard to describe how ineffectual the defense looked when it mattered. The Skins seemingly moved the ball at will. Offensively, I didn’t even know we made ONE third down conversion. We moved in fits and starts…and the WR screen hurts so much more in person. Eli looked uncomfortable all day. And, for all of you who were able to enjoy this travesty on TV, you were spared multiple refrains of “Hail to the Redskins”.
At least JPP looked super sweet in the second half. Here’s hoping this is not a lost season…
Hail to the Redskins
I couldn’t get that stinking song out of my head last night.
Uninspired looking team. I was in the end zone, first row, and unfortunately i saw the backs of our offense and defense way to much. They looked lost and disinterested. Constantly.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
TC or Fewell must GO
At some point the Head Coach has to notice patterns/trends & act on them. Last season when the G-Men played QB contain for a mojority of the first Philly game, it wasn’t until they started to bring pressure that they started taking it to the Eagles. They closed out the Jags game with Gerrad (sp) running for his life etc etc etc. That zone/scheme stuff is for Rogers, Breese and the elite. You don’t sit back on dudes like Grossman (even though he’s much better than ppl give him credit for).
I could go on… 4th & 1 why not run the guy they could NOT stop (Jacobs).
Anyways, the Giants WILL be tied for 1st after next week (4 way tie) I guarantee it. But this should have been a win IMO .
Btw… Trade for a CB
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 9:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
well at least we don't have Sanchez.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It's true
he was awful on toast.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 12, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Nacho
He did everything he could to give that fourth quarter away. Lucky that Romo refused to win.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 12, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Guess he’s been getting lucky for a while now.. Smh
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope
he’s been a solid 55% passer since he came into the league. You’re telling me you weren’t aghast at those two late TO’s he had? If it wasn’t for a blocked punt and Romo’s worse blunders Nacho might actually be under a little pressure from a media infatuated with his abs.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 13, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez ?
Did you see the O-line for a majority of the game ?
I swear I thought most Giants fans were smarter than this. Maybe it’s just a couple of that don’t know much.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you see him almost fumble the game away?
Only to be bailed out by his D and special teams like his whole career.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Got hit from the blindside by a free blitzer, you can’t be serious .
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And the int that led to a TD?
And the int that was dropped?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Breaking News
QB’s throw int’s..
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They do?
Because according to ESPN, Eli is the only QB who had INTs in the 20’s last year.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
According to the media
Eli is the only qb to throw any ints last year
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
True
Eli also leads the league in INTs this year… and running TDs don’t count for him as scoring
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
And Big Ben's 5 TOs in one game yesterday don't count
Because he’s so tough and hard to bring down in the pocket
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
nope
don’t count
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he's elite
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Trade for Fitzpatrick!!!!
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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You joke...
But I really like Fitz. Now obviously I wouldn’t trade Eli for him, but I think he’s a decent QB. They would have beaten the Steeles last year if Stevie doesn’t drop that TD pass.
by eyerish9299 on Sep 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
its not bad
I’m joking in the sense that since he had a great game with 4 TDs, he is already better then Eli will ever be. And that game last year should of been a win. Stevie did blame God for the drop so its ok.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Have did you watch every Jet game last season ? He bailed the D out PLENTY of times. Stop pretending to know stuff. I actually watch the Giants.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Please
The D and special teams keeps the games close for him and put him in good situations. I did watch every Jet game last season. I saw the Lions and Texans literally hand over two games to them. I saw Brad Smith win a couple of games for them too.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Oh..
When we win the game was handed to us, every other team earns it. I know the drill.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
after the Texans game both Dungy and Harrison on NBC said the way the Texans played the end of that game on defense gets coaches fired.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Yes, I get it, we deserve no credit..
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I also watched Sanchez have the lowest completion % in the AFC last year.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Idk, but it was 55%
Recievers did drop 25 passes, but makes no diff, didn’t cost us the Pitt game, the D did.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
And according to footballoutsiders he had 13 ints dropped by the other team. How does that change his season around?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
The worst in the AFC
a conference that has Miami and Cleveland
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Yet...
Somehow he managed to lead his team to victory over & over again. *sigh
Perfect example remember that Clevland game when Roger was on his back all day, but he kept making plays? He gift wrapped that win & we still had to go to OT. That happens more than you think.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Or ride his team to victory
You have the cause and effect all wrong
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Did you see him throw the ball
right to the Cowboys corner, after Romo did the same to Revis with less than a minute to play. He almost gave the game right back to the Cowturds. If you don’t think the Jets won in spite of Sanchez yesterday, you’re kidding yourself.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
It’s hard for Romo to catch a shotgun snap with both hands clutched to his throat… You also can’t spell Romo without ROFLMAO.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
LOL
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
nice
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha, I liek that one.
Least clutch Qb ever. He shits his pants in crunch time. Always has.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
i wish I could say I came up with these but I saw them on my twitter feed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Trade for a CB
Even better, we get a CB in a couple weeks without having to give up anything.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
+1. Prince will be a big lift. even if he doesn't know the defense, he's got more than enough talent to cover guys.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
But can you really rely on a rookie who had what? 2 days of practice to come in and be effective.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
can't be that much worse, can he?
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Not day one
But it’s not as if he went back to Nebraska after he injured his foot.
It’s a long season, we should be able to make an impact before it ends. He will help.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it will be easier for him.
He’s only going to be a nickel corner. There will be less coverages he’ll have to worry about. They are going to essentially tell him we’re playing zone or man, so you play zone here, or cover your man. I think his talent can make up for any lack of understanding he has of the playbook. Plus I gotta assume he’s studied the playbook, so he’s at least familiar with it. And he’s on the sidelines when Fewell or the secondary coach is teaching the secondary.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
some post as if Prince has been a perennial pro bowler in the NFL.
No one has
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I'm not saying that they're posting like he's a probowler,.
but some of you are really banking on him coming in and playing at a high level and that may not happen considering he got hurt after 1-2 practices and is coming off a foot injury etc…
Not bashing, it’s how I feel with Graham coming back after week 6
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
You need to throw....
in the offensive coordinator also. He has been here for a minute and has no imagination or creativity on offense. Keep doing same crap and expect better result. Giants coordinators never makes adjustments so they keep getting out-coached.
True...
Also, why wouldn’t TC say “Put Jacobs in” on those 1 yarders ? Why is he there if he doesn’t override any level of the game.
Gotta be more aggressive.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because last year that didn't work
and they moved to Bradshaw on short yardage. I thought you said you watched the games?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Don't be silly
Jacobs was thrashing Washington yesterday, it’s called “in-game adjustments”
Get it together guy.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As much as it pains me...I agree with you.
Both I think are capable, though I feel like Jacobs is tailormade for those situtations with the way he’s been running this preseason
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Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
And so did Bradshaw
Until the the short yardage. Jacobs is far from automatic on those plays.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
that's true, but Jacobs wasn't tiptoeing all of this preseason and in the game
maybe its just me wishing it were different, but I really would’ve wanted Jacobs in that situation…..still though, blame probably still falls on the offensive line
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus we lose out on all of BJs punishment
We used to grind guys down, no more
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I've seen the Giants fail to convert on short yardage since the Fassel days
And they have tried everything and every time it doesn’t work everyone says, “Why didn’t they do x?” which is some other play that didn’t work before. It’s obvious at this point it’s not the play calling but the execution.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
fair point
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
why change your offense
run your normal offense. Cramming 8 offensive players vs 11 defensive players inside the box doesn’t work.
It’s not just the Giants. The Saints failed on Thursday. Short yardage, heavy packages fail far more often than they succeed.
Jacobs hasn't convered a 3rd and 1 since 2008
its tough cuz the Giants always seem to think they can win that battle. Jacobs tips the play off right away, Bradshaw somewhat doesn’t.
What they need to to is play action and throw deep. Gotta grow a pair since obviously trying to win the physical battle hasn’t worked.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Man whatever
Jacobs was injured behind a poor playing line, there are no excuses for him not being in behind a FB that is playing well and a Center who is awesome.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
that was two years ago
Jacobs hasn’t converted that not cuz he can’t, but cuz everyone knows what’s coming. Gotta throw in some deception and then get back to it.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Two years ago he was injured
two years ago we didnt have Hynoski or Bass
OH yea and the most important thing about two years ago is…………..IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO!!!!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
then why the hell are you bringing up two years ago?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummm, sir, you were the one who brought it up. remember this....
“Jacobs hasn’t convered a 3rd and 1 since 2008 "
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
which means from 2 years, until yesterday
so its an entire time frame.
You, on the other hand brought up when he was injured, which was 2009. Two years ago.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
The short yardage thing is a fair point
There have been plenty of times in the past couple years where on a short yardage play, with Jacobs in the game, the D seems to know what is coming and is in the backfield before he can get going anywhere. Its one of the reasons all this “tiptoe” nonsense seems to follow Jacobs around even when he’s averaging 5 YPC.
I can’t believe they didn’t run the ball more yesterday, and I also can’t believe they are apparently going to split the carries the way they are (even after repeated statements about more evenly distributing carries, going all the way back to last year). However I don’t see putting Jacobs in on every short yardage situation as being a guarantee either.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell bootleg and throw it to a Tight end
I mean we see all those times where a tight end is left wide open in the slot by our defense, I can’t believe we’re the only ones
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I have been having wet dreams about playaction on 3rd and short
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Not with Kerrigan tearing McKenzie a new one
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I've been having those dreams while Kerrigan was still in diapers...
times change Giant’s playcalling, not so much….
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The O-Line
I would agree that on the whole they definitley did not play well. Look at the draw sweep that if Boothe could have got on Fletcher AB had the potential to turn that into 15-30 yards. I do think that with the exception of a few plays Baas played well, and that Beatty had a good game. Its still early, and lets not forget that the Super Bowl year the G-Men started 0-2.
Baas
and Beatty will be fine…..can we say the same for Diehl and McKenzie
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Time will tell
I think in the run game they will, but in the pass game McKenzie has been getting worse over the past few years
Diehl looked like crap
I thought he’d be better as a guard then tackle, tho that’s not saying much since he was terrible as a tackle.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed as well, he was a swinging gate
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I was surprised at how bad that was
Makes you want to know if Seubert is getting healthy
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I want to see Mitch Petrus
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't even dress
Curious
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Assumed he would'nt be needed. Also, I think Boothe comes in before he does
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw boothe playing once
anyone know why?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
because diehl played like ass?
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That'd make sense
And Boothe has a big….. ass
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
lol, how true it is
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately he also whiffed on his block
le sigh
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
maybe he forgot his uniform at the hotel
hence the not dressing issue
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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hate to say this but Burress looked great last night
I hope he celebrates in sweatpants tonight
Pathetic
Cold..
He was good, but the guy he is replacing (Braylon) played great on a regular basis, so Plax better keep it up.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 10:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL,
you think Edwards was great? The guy that could barely find a team willing to sign him this offseason, and signed for peanuts just to play?
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Edwards is even more of a tool than Plax
That’s why it was so hard for him to get a look.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
by roguetrader on Sep 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Trust me..
Edwards was a warrior for us. His off-field problems are where he get in trouble. Teams don’t trust him between Sundays.
But dude was a GREAT receiver for us IMO. Speed, strength, height, went over the middle, took the top off, made plays after the catch etc.
And he played hungry, I know dancing in the endzone can be a bit childish, but when he was abusing the Patriot DB’s last season it was amazing how excited I got when he dougied after torching CBs.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You forgot to mention he dropped the ball. A lot.
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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
No he didn't
He had 1 drop last season. Like I said, he was great.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OK, only you think so, so I'll take that seriously.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how you dodged the FACT that he had 1 drop.
Dude was a beast, to say otherwise is just being stubborn.
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you consider 53 catches to be beastly, the yes, he's a beast.
I consider that average. Yes he had 900 yards on those 53 catches, but that was a mirage. That’s 17 yards a catch, never had more than 16 per. He also had the 4th most catches of any season he’s had, yet the second most yards. That trends towards it being a fluke that he had that many yards. If he were a Jet this year, and had the same number of catches as last year, his yards would be much closer to 700. That’s average for a #2 WR. But yes, he’s a beast.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you read ?
He WAS a beast for us..
by The_Jets_Way on Sep 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can you?
He was average. If that’s your definition of beast, then that’s you. To 99% of the free world, he was average.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, than what in the world does that make our third, fourth, and fifth receivers?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Not very good. But we already knew that.
Though I think that would be solved if we would play Devin Thomas. He’s our third best WR.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked invisible for 2 and a half quarters.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
True.
It was a matter of time till Plax got involved, but he was a non factor for most of the game. Can’t really say he had a great game. Especially early when Sanchez was trying to force him the ball up top even when he was covered.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I give credit to Jenkins though, he was clearly hurt pretty seriously, and he toughed it out and played decent.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Giants
For not fooling me this year. For not pretending you are somebodys only to find out later in the season you are frauds.
It’s sad to think Rex Grossman is that bad and our secondary is that much worse. And the coaching. Why AB on forth and one? How can you not get a first down after Boley’s fumble recovery? Do we miss SS12 that much on third downs?
ross
lmao ross forgot how to plat football
by old man strahan on Sep 12, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions
Delay
every play is a second away from delay of game
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
If you knew anything
you’d know that’s Gillbride’s fault. Eli always has to make his reads, identify the Mike, Identify blitzers if any. When they get to the line with 15 seconds left, he has time to do that, when they get to the line with 10 seconds left because it took forever to get the play into the huddle, he doesn’t have time to do that, and they get the penalty. That’s KG’s fault. Sometimes he takes way to long to get the play into the huddle, and it doesn’t allow enough time for Eli to make his calls at the line.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
ahaha
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Re-watch the game
They had a much better tempo yesterday. Sans the one delay of game penalty, they were consistently getting to the LOS with ~12-15 seconds left on the play clock.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
lol I noticed that too...was happy about that
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
The last "drive"
was pretty bad, although can’t expect much when down by 14 with 30 seconds left
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
i still have a problem with the tempo
a lot of 1 and .1 second snaps going on… you can’t do much when the defense knows when the snap will take place every down. That is one of the main reasons they were able to tee off down the stretch.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Secondary
I am wondering if the Tampa 2 they play is right for this personel? Especially the safeties. Phillips NEVER breaks up passes, he is always late as if he is content to let them have a 30 yard gain but not a TD.
Rolle was asleep yesterday.
by Dave Rosenbluth on Sep 12, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
KP jacked a receiver on one play but the dude made a nice play to hold onto the ball.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats all KP is interested in
The big hit, he needs to play the ball.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
He told you that?
Sure seems like Fewell needs to get the pass coverage on point. Or is it every team that has no pass coverage? On another note, Cofield looked like he was having a blast yesterday.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope Fewell did when he said
I thought Kenney would take the steps he needed on his own and see the field better by himself but now i see that i have to put him specifically in certain spots to see what i want him to see and to play the way he can.
Yes Coefield was our best DT by far like i have always said and he was the best one on the field yesterday still.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Cofield was pretty bad yesterday
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
He was good on running plays
And I think ok on the pass plays.
I didn’t personally watch Diehl, but everyone here says he was a turnstile so yeah
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
yeah, just trust me. Diehl was worse than when he was at LT
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
TT
HUGE LOSS…….Prince better be good, or it’s gonna be a loooooong season
jones and Williams
I just watched the game but when Williams was in there it seemed he was always around the ball. Jones seemed to play well also, was wondering if anyone really payed attention to how they played? Seemed good to maybe one positive that can come of this.
by jstrong13 on Sep 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
linebackers
played well. Jones was good, Boley had a great game
Young LB
These young linebackers are going to be real good
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Williams probably played more then Jones
I think they both played well. The one thing I don’t like is Kiwi as a LB. He’s a good blitzer but in coverage I think a lot of those plays in the flat could be avoided with a real LB in there.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be nice to one time see a Giants LB break up one of those plays
seems like 10 years since that has happened
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Kiwi looked stiff at LB
Hope Williams can take this spot soon.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Sep 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I found myself thinking
About the fact that the Giants basically had one week less of practice than the rest of the league because of the hurricane, and the re-scheduling of the Jets game. I hope that accounts for some of the problems, especially the O-line
I think that's a decent point....
and hopefully part of the problem.
I'm not throwing in the towel
but I’ll say this: If we continue down the current path we can forget even talking about any playoffs.
We move the ball back and forth on the field, but not scoring much.
It’s hard to win when you can’t capitalize on turnovers, can’t kick a routine field goal, or can’t even tackle someone. How about covering someone? How about blocking someone? How about not having so many penalties? A lot of these things are elementary and we have trouble either grasping them or doing them.
We have two legitimate receivers. One or two catches doesn’t necessarily make a player a threat.
We’d be better off mostly running the ball; at least then, maybe the defense could catch a breather or two.
We have a lot to work on if we intend to even get to the playoffs.
Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...
Pretty much, yeah
Obviously its a long season, but as of right now its awfully hard to imagine more than one team coming out of the NFC East. The 4 teams appear to be more closely matched this year, and they are probably going to be beating each other up a lot. I see it as doubtful that the skins and cowboys lose as many games as they did last year. The eagles have weapons all over but are clearly beatable (I will literally lose my mind if the Giants don’t run the ball 60% of the time in week 3). As always, I’ll watch the games and enjoy the wins when they come… but I have a feeling this might be “one of those years”.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think any NFC East team can talk about the playoffs
The Giants did what they did. The Cowporks looked good when Bryant was healthy, but he seems to always get hurt. And the Eagles OL had Vick running for his life all game, and if the Rams could actually catch the ball that game was a lot closer.
Actually, the Redskins looked like the team to beat in the division. But of course, its just week one and really the first few weeks of the season don’t tell you any part of the story.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok guys. I'm here to weigh in on what I saw yesterday and I think an impartial party will be better.
- On Rex Grossman, the dude’s always been boom or bust like this. He’ll throw for 300+ yards, 2 TD’s and 0 INT’s one week then go out the next and throw for 70 yards, 0 TD’s and 3 INT’s. He’s been like this his whole Career if you look at the Bears superbowl year this is exactly how Rex played and this is why he was eventually benched for Orton the following year… Also I feel Rex took some chances throwing places he just shouldn’t and he’s lucky a few of those passes weren’t picked off.
- As for your 3rd down conversion rate. For some reason nothing was clicking for you guys there, you had some drops and got stuffed a few times and Eli was running for his life. I don’t want to start a fight but your OL seems to need some time to gel or you need to run more and play to their current strength.
- Abandoning the run was the wrong move. That was what got you guys going early on and that’s your strong point on offense.. After that INT you guys had enough time where you guys didn’t need to pass that much, I actually think running the ball would’ve gotten you guys back in the game or gotten things rolling for you.
Now for the good:
- Nicks looked very good, he made some plays for you guys, he’s going to have another good year if you guys can keep Eli off his back.
- I have never been a JPP fan (even when he was at USF, so it’s not Giant hate I promise) but he was your best defensive player yesterday. He had a great game. It hurts to admit this.
- You have to respect a guy who’s willing to call out his teammates the way Canty did. that’s being a leader right there (mostly because he did it in the right way.)
- I know I spoke bad about your OL above, but it was clear they got better as the game went on.
- You LB’s looked good considering everything that happened to your starters.
All in all it wasn’t as great as the Redskins think it is, and it wasn’t as bad as you guys think it is. I feel the game could have gone either way before the interception and I think after it your coaches messed up by not running the ball…
And as always, you guys better bring it week 3 and 11, I still think you’re the 2nd best team in the NFC East and I’d like to use you guys as a measuring stick for our OL so Tuck better be healthy.. I’d like to see how Herremans in particular does against Tuck.
Quick questions:
1. Considering your secondary and linebacker issues and the fact that JPP’s looking like he is going to be a player and assuming Tuck’s going to be fine (never know with neck injuries) would you guys be open to trading Osi for a linebacker or a CB who can come in and help immediately, now I’m not saying Osi will pull in Briggs or some superstar alone, but he’s definitely good enough to demand an above-average to good player in return at CB/LB…. It was just a thought.
2. Assuming that Osi doesn’t get traded, would you guys be opposed to possibly moving Tuck inside because I know he played some DT that superbowl year and clearly has the size and athleticism to play there then put Osi in Tuck’s position. I feel this would help with your pass rush up the middle and with stopping the run, while also keeping your LB’s cleaner so they can make plays.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
1) The LB issues I don't think are really there and Osi is a playmaker if he's anything
much rather keep Osi.
2) No, you can’t move Tuck inside permanently. Joseph is also a player in the same way JPP is one, so there’s that. And Canty also is a solid DT. I wouldn’t change anything along the line
The worst thing to all of this is that Osi is the one that should be playing LB, not Kiwaunuka. Osi’s fast and quick and flies to the ball, Kiwi’s tough, stout and uses his hands well. That’s really the problem, its Osi being a feminist and not really being a dude who’s accepting to do what’s best for the team.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Alright. Some good conversation here.
1) I can see what you’re saying there. But you have to admit that if a solid-good LB or DB hits the trading block that you guys will at least be interested in what it takes to get him and if it’s a fair deal and you have to part with Osi I think you do what you have to do.. And right now I think JPP needs to play ahead of Osi, his ceilings higher.
2) I can see what you’re saying here. I wondered why Osi wasn’t the one who got moved back but as I said in my first question if you added a LB and feel that Jones as your MLB is good you could trade Osi, move Kiwi back down to DE and still have a good 3 man rotation.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
As for Tuck moving inside.
I guess that makes sense. But you guys should really think about moving him inside some (you guys as in the coaching staff) because that’d help your team immensely.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Tuck always moves around the line
he’s inside, he stands up and murks the line for a gap to rush. They’ve been doing that since 2007 with him aside from the stand up stuff.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't see him go inside much last season,
so I was just asking.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'm not sure what you were watching then
Tuck was playing DT a lot last season
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
or at least a lot for a DE
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
there's just no LB available that they would trade Osi for
the Giants value LBs like the Eagles, in that they don’t.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Very good point.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
JPP should not play a head of Osi at all
JPP should be roatated through out the 4 D line spots at all times, he is a great addition to Tuck and Osi, we dont need to get rid of anyone especially Osi, yesterday proves we need all of them including Kiwi rushing more.
When Tuck and Osi is out there thats when you will see JPP dominate even more.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Eh, I'm just saying what I saw and what I think.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
doubt it
only b/c they’ll prolly let Osi play on “passing downs”
and let JPP play on running downs.
sure i’ll notice it, but the majority of fans will want to know why JPP didn’t sack the QB on a Running Play.
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Osi will be starting when he gets back
stop living in a fantasy world.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I don't think you can play Osi at Linebacker.
He’d be a huge liability in the run game, and I’d rather have my linebackers stop the run before the pass. Kiwi is an excellent run stopper, that’s part of the reason he’s at LB.
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by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a very good point. I didn't even think of that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
More or less this. As for your questions
1) Giants will not trade Osi for an LB or CB just because of positional value. We’re fine with average to above average secondary because our entire defense is predicated on a pass rush. That rotation will be vital between Tuck, Osi, Tolly and JPP
2) Tuck would move inside in some formations, so yup, you’ll see alot of plays with tuck inside and osi and jpp on the edges.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
...
1) fair enough. I guess I see your point there… But I was more talking about Osi for a guy of equal value who happened to be at a position of need.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
2) Hey, this is kinda what I was thinking, but you know if your DT's are ineffective then you can always
move him inside full time.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Our DTs were actually a strong point yesterday. Got plenty of pressure from Canty and Joseph
They got almost no yardage inside…problem was them bouncing Hightower to the outside around Tollefson, who could seal the edge for most of the game.
Tuck would be inside during situational passing downs most likely and as part of a rotation with the DL. Don’t think he has the base to set up shop there full time tho.
As for trading Osi, it’ll be real tough to find equal value to him….because he puts up crazy stats, but has definite flaws to his game….Giants won’t pull the trigger unless they know they get 100% value for him
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I was focusing on your LB's and Secondary mostly...
So I admit I didn’t get to watch the DL as much…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I don't blame you. It was hard to turn away from them....
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
No, it was more that I watched the game with the purpose of watching your OL, LB and Secondary..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
ah
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I really wanted to see how they did... Keeping an eye on week 3 lol.
You guys are probably our biggest challenge.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Dunno yet, bro
I can anticipate us being a challenge for you guys if we improve next week…it remains to be seen.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, you guys could be 0-10 heading into our week 11 matchup and scare
me more than anybody in the League… it’s that simple.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
well, we'll see. As you can tell, its not very good in Giants land right now haha
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I walked by your ship and heard a ton of splashing last night... soooo
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
as long as people were jumping
and not getting pushed, i am actually quite ok with this
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, good point.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
there's been splishing and splashing
even over preseason games, so I didn’t expect anything different after this one
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Splish splash I was taking a bath
sorry got musically inclined there
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
.......I read this comment
started working like I should be and all of a sudden im humming “Splish Splas” I HATE you lol
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haha
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's good stuff
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Yeah, I'm sure after the first Eagles loss
people will be in crisis mode.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Sad day when the Eagles fan is the voice of reason
I agree with all of your assessments except for this:
I know I spoke bad about your OL above, but it was clear they got better as the game went on.
I thought the O-line was better at the beginning, mostly because they were running the ball more and that tailored to their strengths
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I'm not trying to be the voice of reason I just feel that it's being blown out of proportion.
And my thoughts were that early on there were break downs on the OL that lead to issues..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Their just messing with you Eagle, you made some good points
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I know... I'm just being clear about my intentions.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Hey, I do appreciate you coming over here and being rational
trying to actually talk football not being inflamatory- thanks.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
No problem. I just like football talk..
Next week I may not come over because the conversations may become heated and I tend to get in trouble when that happens…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'd think that trading for a DB would be stipulated on Prince's health
Aside from Briggs, who’s trading a LB of equal value?
When Spags came over, and I think he learned this from Reid, he tailored our D sets to the guys strengths. We had crap safeties then, but he put them in deep help and in run support with jobs they could do. Last few years, it seems like we are determined to play a read and react style, a chase zone if you will, that our DBs aren’t suited for.
It’s not like they can’t recover, it may be that the players were out of position. But from my seat the coaches need to play to the DBs strengths even if it isn’t their preference.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Briggs would be an upgrade over Boley
but not that big of an upgrade that I’d pull the trigger seeing as Boley is playing out of his mind this preseason and the last game
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Osi = Briggs to me
Both have been very good in the past, but are older now.
Both played with superstars (Strahan, Urlacher)
Both want huge paydays that they are unlikely to earn
It wouldn’t bug me if they made that deal
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
positional value would tip it over.
To Osi’s side. You want pass rushers before LBs.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless you need a LB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
we don't need a weakside LB. Boley played awesome
We could use an SLB and maybe an MLB. Too early to tell.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
New avatar for you?
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by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
:o
:)
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
That Pic makes me miss Goff
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I'm just saying if a guy becomes available would you strike the deal?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Me probably not
I don’t think a new guy would blend in fast enough
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
agreed....time it would take for him to get accustomed wouldn't be worth it
we have a bunch of young lbs that we want to develop anyways
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by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Trade a 1st to st louis for spags.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Lol they need a wr
Trade them Barden
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Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
Honestly,
I wouldn’t expect anything great from Prince, he’s not going to save you, he may come and go off but he got hurt after his first or 2nd practice.. So can you really expect him to come off injury, having barely played in this system and play at a level you need him to?
Also I don’t know who’d be available, It’s more of a hypothetical question.
Spags learned from Jim Johnson.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I wouldn't expect Prince to be terrible tho
the one thing about him is that he’s grasped the CB position incredibly quick, he was a RB his first two seasons. Also hopefully if he’s in there it’d force Fewell to play him in a man on man scheme, since playing a zone might be too much to ask right away, and Prince was a great man to man CB in college.
I think he’d give the team a shot in the arm. He’s a tough bastard and much closer to Terrel Thomas then anyone on the roster aside from TT.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he'll do terrible.
I’m just saying a lot of you guys are kinda banking on him coming in and being a savior when the chances of that happening are slim.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
savior would be the wrong word
shot in the arm, spark, something new, that’s a bit better. No one’s expecting him to be Revis already. Just be better then what’s out there
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
fair enough.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
RB his first two seasons of what?
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
look it up
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
College. he played RB for his first two seasons
then converted to CB. Just like Marsh of the Eagles did.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
No, I don't expect much from him.
Our starting safeties and two starting CBs are ALL 1st round picks. I expect them to step their game up though. They had a terrible game as a unit.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
My thought was if he's getting healthy you're not going to want to give up much
Because they will want to give Prince snaps
If he isn’t coming back this year, it may be a consideration
(side note- Eagles have excelled at putting guys in a position to succeed on both sides of the ball during Reid’s tenure. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. He knows what he wants, and will work with the talent he has, it’s an attitude that starts at the top)
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
That's a very good point.
I was just wondering and weighing in on the Prince thing.
Also that’s what I’ve always liked, Reid puts guys in a position to succeed.. I honestly would rather having guys like Coleman start than a boom or bust guy also.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yes and No
1. I suggested that trade last week when it looked like we were reworking deals to free up some cap space
2. Tuck is always the guy who gets doubled on the edge. If he’s Inside the offense has more blocking options. Singled Tuck pushes the RT back into the QBs face so fast it screws up anything that’s not a quick pass to the left.
If the neck hurts his peformance so much that Osi and JPP are more of a threat from the edge, then I’d think about it. We’re best on passing downs when all three DEs are in the game (that’s how we beat the Pats) so somebody’s always inside in that situation anyway.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Thoughts in the game:
JPP paired with a healthy Tuck is going to be great.
Hakeem Nicks is a Star best WR I seen on the Giants roster in my short life.
I think our running game will be top 5 in the league if we can extend drives ( which means the OLine has to protect better on passing downs)
Eli didn’t make many bad throws I remember a high throw to manningham but it was caught
Greg Jones didn’t make unbeliever plays but didn’t make big mistakes.
KP was not impressive
PF does NOT adjust his defense.
Special Teams……..
Our running game would be awesome
if the OC wasn’t a moron
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Can somebody please explain
why we continue to run the same offensive and defensive plays over and over. If your zone D is getting picked apart like a turkey at thanksgiving change it. the only reason eli scored on the bootleg was because no one expected it. what do we go back to when the game is on the line – same ole O – pedestrian plays that even the fans can predict. And for gods sake whats with the 3 and 20 screen passes.
the third and 20 screens are a way to pick up a few yards on a safe play
the time of the game and score obviously isn’t important enough to get the 20 yards, so you pick up a few and gain some field position. Sometimes you just can’t let the defense hurt you any more.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Not many plays are designed to get you 20 yards
when the defense knows it’s coming. Better to be safe and hope you break one than force throws
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
so simple
to quote Jeremy Schockey,"we were out played and out coached. End of story.Yup, that says it all
Yeah, but the Saints, Falcons, and Steelers didn't lose to a Rex Grossman led Redskins team ...
they lost to the Packers, Bears, and Ravens, respectively.
so what?
who’s to say that the Redskins won’t have a similar record to those teams?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys
I’m going to put up the “Ask a Giants fan” on the Ram’s site tonight or tmrw, so if you want to help me and aren’t members already, sign up now so the waiting time is less
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
coolness
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll be there
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
We weakened them for you...
Watch out for Lance Kendricks, they talk about him like he’s already got a shoe into the hall of fame.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
he dropped a ton of passes yesterday
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh,
I was being sarcastic… I forgot we have a sarcasm font now.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I thought they really were on the Kendricks bandwagon like he's the next Shannon sharpe
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much. Pretty much comparing him to Gonzo and Gates lol.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
So does Dez Bryant
But he got cramps walking though the doors
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Lmao, so true man..
So if Dallas’s best WR is Miles Austin and Cromartie was covering him, and Dez is the #2 there and Revis was covering him… Doesn’t that kinda suggest that Revis doesn’t follow the #1 WR 70% of the time?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
yeah for real
Dez had a few nice catches on Revis in the first drive but then cramped up, came back and was shut down. Miles was abusing NY’s “Father of the year”
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly, once Dez slowed up Revis shut him down...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
to be fair
they can call Dez whatever they want, he’s their best WR. You have to cover him before you cover Austin.
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by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree.
Miles Austin’s their #1, look at the production he’s had over the last 3-4 seasons… Dez is a playmaker, but I’d rather have my best CB on Austin.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Dez is only in his second year, so tough to compare 3-4 seasons
Austin is good, but gets most of his yards on dinking and dunking from ROFLMAO. Doesn’t mean he’s bad, but I’d rather put a big tall guy on him anyway cuz he’s not running anything downfield.
Bryant is explosive and is much more of a downfield threat.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
so is it set that Romo is now ROFLMAO? I'd be down
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd be OK with it if I didn't see an Eagles fan mention it first
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I got it from Twitter..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
then its OK
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know the affiliation of the individual I saw that posted it, or where he got it from...
so take that as you will.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'm down with it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yes, but Dez isn't the #1 WR yet..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Haha
I read last week where the Rams fans were talking him up. Hopefully he’ll play as well on MNF as he did yesterday
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Oh yeah, they were saying how he was going to shred us and he was going to kill us.
They said he’s better than like half the starting TE’s and shit…
Best 1 catch game I’ve ever seen from a future HOFer.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Wet Willy: Coughlin and Gilbride
How does Jacobs get only 6 carries? That’s asinine. The Giants are down 7 points for most of the 2nd half and they decide to abandon the run. Really?
After last season Coughlin said that Jacobs should have gotten more carries. It’s Week 1 and they put Jacobs on ice. This kind of BS is why I’ve been calling for Coughlin’s job for the last 3 years.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Why weren't there more draws, curl routes, roll outs, quick slants
to counter the Redskins’ pass rush? The only time they ran draws and screens were when they had already failed to get positive yardage on first down.
Also, why in the world were they calling bubble screens to Nicks? Manningham is definitely more elusive than Nicks. Manningham has had a few TDs on those screens, including last year against Washington.
There’s no way to defend Coughlin and his team’s game-planning for this game.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
silly Ghost
quick passing routes only work against the Cowboys. Or at least they’re only in the game plan against the Cowboys.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as Killdrive is here
Forget curl routes, roll out and quick slants, becuase that is thinking out of the box and Kevin does not do that. As for TC, he is mostly the game manager and he let’s his coordinators run things. The one thing I think we can start blaming him for is our ST. They have been horrible for a long time, and the fact that Quinn still has a job is on TC. ST can win games or loose them and ours are once again shakey at best. TC needed to take action and fix that and he didn’t
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Killdrive was horrible yesterday
Once again he abandon’s the run falls in love with the pass and the Offense never established any tempo. Another thing i can’t stand about his coaching is he never changes things up, he just runs the same plays over and over, Dude how about going no huddle to catch the Skins D off guard, or utilizing new personal like D Scott, not saying he should touch the ball a lot, but the guy’s speed is deadly, why do we not have a package in the offensde for him. Ware sucks, why is he active, when has he every made a play when we needed him too, try someone diffrent.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw other teams go no huddle and have success
The Giants must think that not waiting until the final second to run a play is cheating. They like to announce to the defense when they’re going to snap the ball.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
yeah
every time you look up, the playclock is down to 5 seconds.
Horrible.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
True, Dollar
But, look around the league. That is how most every team operates now.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Cowboys were under 5 secs almost all night and had 2 delay penalties
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
just because your brother jumps off a cliff....
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam Newton's debut was interesting...
In that he constantly had 7 or more seconds on the play clock. The plays were in, the checks were made (maybe fewer adjustments) and the ball was snapped. Chudzinski seemed to know what to do with his offense…only one game, but.
This was the most aggravating thing
We were 60/40 pass to run. That should have been reversed for 3 reasons.
1.) you are down 4 starters on D. Shorten the game for them.
2.) it was working and we were within one score most of the game.
3.) pass protection was shaky.
Failure to recognize these things and adjust to a run heavy game plan is coaching malpractice. We should have run 30+ times yesterday. On a side note, get #27 the damn ball more. They did the same 65/35 split of carries for AB as last yr. Get that closer to 50/50 so he can punish defenders and AB isn’t worn down late in the season.
by G-FANinFL on Sep 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
These are very good points.
You guys are going to have to run the ball and take up as much time as you can until you know your defense can play up to the level you need them to.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Coughlin, Gilbride, and Fewell
wet willies for all three of them.
and here I was….silly me, appluading KG’s naked QB Bootleg in the first Quarter.
I shoulda known he’d get complacent w/ a frigging 1 score lead.
TeamJPP
I got all excited when we went to a 3 back set
that was pretty… my second fav was the “play action” roll out…
other than those, our offense was pretty much offensive.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
this team will continue to plummet
as long as these clowns are still employed
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely agree
should have ran much more in the 2nd half
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
A couple 3rd and 1's
we put in Bradshaw behind no full back and tried to stretch it…..hmmm im no offfensive genius but wouldnt Jacobs behind Hynoski and Bass right up the middle be a waaaay better option, Gerald Ingram should be slapped for not putting Jacobs in the game, i mean even when you see Eli getting killed, that should tell you put the big back in.
S/N Why the hell do they keep forcing DJ Ware on the field, why isnt Bradshaw the 3rd down back in long distance situations?? why are we putting ware out there just to say we did when we have two awesome #1 backs?? fooloshness
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I sort of want Hynoski to get some FB draws as well. That puts the D on edge and usually is pretty successful
that may be asking a little bit much of Gilbride though.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Does Gilbride know that the FB is allowed to carry the ball?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
probably not
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
But he got one catch!
it’s amazing that a FB can catch!
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I did like that
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
field goal???
why try a field goal on fourth down when 3 points only gets you within 4 points of the lead and your offense has done nothing the entire second half,your defence just made a great play and you try a field goal????
I don’t have a problem with the FG try, just the execution. That kick came off Larry’s foot like a wet Nerf.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
you have to get points
they didn’t execute but it was the right call.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
There were still 13 minutes left at that point
and they hadn’t exactly been tearing it up on 3rd and 4th down. Have to believe you can make that field goal and get the ball back with a chance to win.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Jake Ballard
Loved the guys guts, playing through what appeared to be stomach cramps in the first half. But on that long catch he had? I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a slower human being.
In a race with a pregnant woman, Ballard’s coming in third. He has great speed for an offensive tackle.
Honestly other than offense, defense, special teams and coaching, I thought the Giants looked pretty good.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
he got open
and made the catch, moved the chains, what else do you want from him?
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Sep 12, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
But how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Aaron Ross & Webster
These guys suck badly in coverage, it seems. Our CBs playing M2M are way better it seems…but I’m sick of not having CBs that are ball hawks & that are proactive instead of reactive.
Also, for once…FOR ONCE, can we get a KR/PR that has solid speed? This hasn’t been addressed in like 20 years, it seems. Seeing guys like Ted Ginn, Jr. being scooped up by the 49ers for nothing makes me shake my head. We need that here.
Hixon has terrific speed, but all the speed in the world isn’t going to prevent holding penalties on the return
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
But you’re right, Aaron Ross was terrible yesterday.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Had Dixon in 2000 to 2002
one of the fastest guys the Giants ever had. He left football after that, got hurt and lost the desire to play.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
One of the funniest things I've ever heard
Was said by an NFL Scout about Ron Dixon:
“If you told him to run 40 yards in a straight line, no one could do it faster. If you told him to run to a specific point on the field, he would get lost on the way.”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
sad but true…. When he played WR in 2000 it was all go routes… especially in the NFC Championship game
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The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The Lambuth Special…..stupid Jurevicius missing that block
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Sooooooooooooooooooooo close
I really thought they were gonna do it.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
sigh
I cried on the floor after that.
Team TAWD:
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Just one of 40 or 50 heartbreaking losses to the Eagles.
But I’ve got three SB Champs t-shirts to keep me warm.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
The Sehorn game was pretty sweet
Still one of the best ints & tds I have ever seen
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
this
also the comback in 2006 is a close second in Giant/Eagle games
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The game winner there was the same as in the SB
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Willie Ponder was fast and a good KR
before the Giants found that out and promptly wiped him off the face of the earth
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He fumbled once, and was gone.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Ponder, Tim Carter, Ron Dixon
Yea…All had solid speed…but got hurt for us.
We were one of the least penalized teams during/after the SB run. We’ve been so bad with penalties since last year. Yesterday began the way last season ended.
Good thing we have a head coach that preaches discipline.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
someone definitely sold their soul for that SB run
the team had all the luck in the world go their way for pretty much all of 2008. Soon as 2009 and beyond struck, nothing but shite luck
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Curse of the Latin Quarter
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
lol
It really is sick though, how they could go from SB champs greatest upset ever then 11-1 to missing the playoffs the last 2 seasons and playing like they did yesterday.
by NYG86-90-07 on Sep 12, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
A told B and B told C, "I'll meet you at the top of the coconut tree."
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Perfect summation Ed
I had all the same thoughts during game time. It’s the secondary that concerns me most. God, they were awful! KP was the only one playing at all back there. The rest were slow, out of position and uninspiring to me.
Go Giants!
its called the Tim Lewis Special
the Zone prevent defense…. Fewell is falling in that trap.
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
Did anyone else see the hold on JPP on the last TD?
A told B and B told C, "I'll meet you at the top of the coconut tree."
by Nine Inch Nails on Sep 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Everyone but the refs
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
lol
it never fails we get hosed every year on non-calls
by NYG86-90-07 on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
How about the clip on that early punt???
And I still think the second foot was out o that corner end zone TD. I also saw multiple holds.
But that doesn’t excuse the terrible play by the Giants. I refuse to panic yet. But this team was not ready to play Sunday.
Go Giants!
That long punt return by the redskin
that set up one of their tds had a block in the back that wasn’t called
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Sigh
I saw that too. Only the Giants seemed to be called for those
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I think we're talking about the same one
It was the first guy, no one around him. He clearly got the angle and got hit in the back. WTF!!
The PR went up the left sideline for about 30 yards and then they scored on that drive.
Go Giants!
And I hate
Crying about penalty calls. It’s for losers. But c’mon, that one was ridiculous. Almost as bad as the non call on the DJax return last year. Maybe worse, because their was no traffic to blame the missed call on.
Go Giants!
I hate it too
I just wish they would make the calls. Both ways I don’t care. Then we wouldn’t have anything to say.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
The refs have to make the obvious calls
I hate that holds are rarely called, but they’re rarely called for everyone.
Blocks in the back should be obvious and called
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I think my problem with holding
is the random nature of it.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Yeah it's really random.
They seem to only call it when it was on the back end of a play and had nothing to do with the outcome of the play… But the obvious ones they just allow.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yeah big time
I saw the Skins holding a lot, we got away with a few too. Call me crazy I thought the penalty on Rolle was ticky tacky, especially since the guy was trying to get up and make it to the 1st down marker.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
no tolerance for helmet to helmet contact this year
Even if it is incidental, it will be called. It was all preseason.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
Na, the hit was obvious. Rolle does that a lot.
Gets paid too damn much for that stupidity.
Bout time he starts earning those extra millions too. He hasn’t “made plays” since last year. Nothin but a tackler. Could’ve saved a lot of money & signed a reg. safety, if that was the case.
I love Reese...but we gotta address his busts
Can’t expect every draft pick to be a hit, but he’s had some big misses…for a guy who likes to build through the draft & not sign guys.
Bryan Kehl, Phillip Dillard, Travis Beckum (looks like it), Matt Dodge (7th round, whatever), Ramses Barden, Clint Sintim, etc.
I know some guys are still on the team, some have had injury issues….but not performing is not performing either way.
Come on, Jerry.
If your going to kill JR
it should be on his refusal to address the LB spot over the years. As far as his busts, look at Accorsi’s drafts before 2004, it reads like a who’s who of busts. You can’t be right all the time in the draft.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s my problem with this team. Our D-line was pretty good yesterday, but the LB core was not there to back them up, and TE’s having been eating the Giants alive for years.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It was obvious no one was expected to cover Davis
That is not the LBs fault. If they were assigned Davis, they would have made some attempt to go near him.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
The curse of CC
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Signed Boley
Drafted Kiwi, Sintim, Dillard, Williams, Jones. Signed Paysinger, Herzlich. Idk mate, he addressed it
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
I agree….Reese has had some huge wins for us, and I hope/don’t think HIS job is on the line if we don’t make the playoffs.
But some of those misses are key, especially when we don’t sign a guy(s) in case it doesn’t pan out.
I just want to see us address the LB position & special teams returners as a priority.
Which GM is 100%
Reese is one of the best in the league. Fans of other teams think so.
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."
No one is 100%, but the Giants have not drafted an impact LB for 20 years. That’s a lot.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
well those may all be true
but what about JPP, Joseph, Terrel Thomas, Manningham, Nicks, Bradshaw, and Beatty? Maybe the problem is that he doesn’t accumulate a ton of picks, but he’s had a lot more hits then he’s had misses.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course
I know…just venting a little bit…but i agree 100%.
JPP is looking like a monstrosity of a player & everybody questioned that pick. The kid is only going to get better.
Damnit, i really wish Marvin Austin hadn’t gotten hurt. He was gonna produce.
agreed. Starvin' Marvin would've provided some nice depth
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Coughlin and Management
Honestly, its tiring commenting about every little thing we did wrong, so I won’t.
But to me, the biggest thing is still being ignored in all this.
These players have tuned Coughlin out. Sure, the “disciplinarian” doesn’t want his team to committ boneheaded penalties, or give up special teams gaffes every moment…..but the plain, undisputable fact remains that he CANNOT stop them from happening – his methods DO NOT work.
The fact that he sticks with Quinn and co – fine – but when they do not produce and do not improve, who is held accountable? Coughlin should be. Just like Dodge. I don’t blame him one bit for blowing that kick in the Phila game, I blame COUGHLIN, because like us, he watched Dodge drop the ball, shank punts, everything but WHIFF (Landeta) and yet he still stuck to his guns and put Dodge in a position to fail in a big spot.
Did Coughlin get in Rolles face? Did he yank him and deactivate him for next weeks game to send a message? Whats he going to do to make it stop – NOTHING – thats what. He will stand there on the sidelines with that constipated look on his face when Antrel (the Mouth) does it again, because let me guess “its a MAN thing”, right Antrel?
That ONE play, like the Dodge play, could have been the very play that was the difference between winning and losing – to having opening game momentum, or having the black cloud decend on this team…… really, it can come down to something as simple as that.
I think Coughlin and Reese have alot to answer for, less than the players on this team. If Steve Smith ends up to be a real contributor for the Eagles this year, then Reese flat out blew it in addition to blowing it on Osi.
Its one game. But my gut feeling is that this team needs some fresh air and fresh ideas. The talent we have is being squandered. They talked about veteran teams with veteran players having an advantage in the early season with the shortened preseason – how does that spin for us? We got whipped by a team that changes players and QBs like Jenna Jamison changes underwear.
You think she wears underwear?
Sorry, getting off-topic.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Miss Colombia doesn't
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What I miss?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Miss Colombia reprimanded for not wearing panties
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Buzz kill
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
She was photgraphed at a public appearance
and it was clear she was not wearing underwear so the Miss Universe committee issued a reminder to her to make sure she did from then on.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Good to see we have our priorities straight
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I can only talk about bad games for so long.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
This is much better
We already know where Britney stands on this one.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
that IS the question
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
TC is a good coach
But I have to agree the players have tuned him out. The kind of mistakes they make are the ones you know TC is screaming about everyday. Giants need to embrace change, a new coach might also help JR get diffrent types of players, Giants are stale.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
why the panic
Rex has always played well against the giants. when he was in chicago and last year withe redskins. he has good games against big blue. truth is the NY/NJ media hype the Giants and there are not that good. As a Giant fan I must admit the Jets are a better team in NY now. Time for a new regime change from top to bottom after the season ends. It’s a new game now. Killdrive and couglin must go bring in the new breed of coaches. Age is also catching up with this team. Finally the secondary is just not as good as led to believe.
the NY/NJ media hypes the Giants?
all they talk about is how “terrible” the offseason was. Tho I guess that’s a sort of overhype that doesn’t make any sense.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
the offseason was terrible
and you witnessed the evidence of that firsthand yesterday, watching the Giants embarrass themselves.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
What could JR have done differently that would have significantly impacted yesterdays' game?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He could have fired Quinn
and found a new ST coach
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
no no
nothing is ever the fault of Coughlin, his coordinators, or Reese.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind calling them out.
They are as much to blame for yesterdays loss as the players.
I don’t see how firing Quinn would have made the difference in yesterdays game. ST weren’t great, but they also weren’t the reason the lost. Especially things that a ST coach has control over.
I’d like to know specifically what moves JR should have made that would have gotten this team the W yesterday.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Reese makes the big bucks
so he’s supposed to figure it out.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I thought.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know....
…he is paid well, isn’t he?
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Way to back up your criticms
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Being critical must be allowed
otherwise you’d have nothing to say here ever.
by BleedBigBlue on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
well
when they give me something praise worthy, I won’t be critical.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
By all means criticize
But back it up.
In case you missed it, I haven’t exactly been painting flowers and unicorns over yesterday’s performance.
You don’t like what JR did or didn’t do this offseason, then tell me why.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Sep 12, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What they lost in the offseason wouldn't have helped them
especially since Boss wasn’t playing and either was Smith. Also TT and Tuck were injuries.
Pretty much the offseason had nothing to do with why they lost yesterday since everyone wouldn’t have played anyway. Sorry bub.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
uh huh
same crap we saw in the preseason we saw in week 1
keep holding the line, maybe someone will answer you eventually
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Who’s panicking? I had very low expectations for this season, and so far I’m not disappointed.
And yes, the Jets own the city, the Stadium, the Hudson River, the Statue of Liberty, the Circle Line, they own it all. Except rings.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
He was being toyed with
Forgot how to turn his hips & all that. He and Webster were behind the WR all day. I wish Webster were proactive instead of reactive, especially. It’s like he half-asses it.
Who’s to say that the Redskins won’t have a similar record to those teams?
I don’t even know how to respond to that, Rorschach44.
I’ve read your postings before, and you’re better than that.
I picked the redskins
for the wildcard berth… I see them winning a lot too..
"Oh god help us all, the metlife blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
why not?
give me a good reason why that team can’t be 10-6? And weren’t’ all those teams you mentioned just around 10-6 last year?
Last year was last year, that’s a different team this year.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way, I have been saying for the past two years that Webster is garbage, and
has anyone noticed that Phillips hasn’t looked that good either?
Webster is not garbage
Giants are not playing to either corners strength of bump and run, Corners are playing zone and they are just not that good when used like that
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
so that means
that the coaching is inept. Good to know.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
No
It means, we lost our best two pass rushing DE’s to injury and the coaching staff didn’t adjust. Problem with zone coverage is you need to get pressure on the QB. Since Tuck and Osi were out, we had trouble late getting to Grossman unless we blitzed. JPP played great but life without Tuck is scary,.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
the coaching staff did not adjust
therefore, they are inept.
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Not inept. Just messed up. If it becomes a trend, then I'd call them inept.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I guess we should just turn off the TV and wait till next season becasue we are done
Great logic “Bill’s” When you loose 4 Defensive starters sometimes it takes the coaches a bit to make adjustments. It’s only one game
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Exactly!
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
by TrueBlue777 on Sep 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
All this zone stuff to not give up the big play is hurting us. This isn’t really a Cover 2 type secondary. We end up giving up 15 yard passes like 4 straight times underneath instead because the LBs aren’t too great.
agreed on both points
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Just so everyone knows...
this morning on Mike&Mike Golic even said the Rolle penalty was bullshit. He said how was Davis a defenseless WR when he was still rolling for the 1st down?? Rolle ONLY hit him head on because Davis was still moving. That one call completely changed the outcome. Instead of a 4th down and a punt with us getting the ball down 21-14, the Redskins get the ball and score making it a 28-14 game. Completely disgusting display of officiating.
I said that earlier but most don't agree
The guy was going for the first down, That’s why rolle hit him. That was a bad call, but you win some you loose some.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
But you know how it is with spearing a dude on the ground
All you gotta do is touch him like Webster did…not drive into a player on the ground. just the way it works now.
The problem was the head to head contact
Refs saw that and rang him up. I thought it was a BS call because the guy was still trying to get the 1st down but once they showed the helmet to helmet I knew it was over.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Helmet to Helmet though
It’s going to be called each and every time now. Rolle should know better than that
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Golic
took one too many hits to the head
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, but at the same time, why take the risk? Touching the dude gets him down too
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not our Year
Giants very flawed team, and as with most NY teams they are overrated. You cannot get away losing your slot receiver and tight end, offensive line cohesion and defending passes with an average secondary and linebackers who cannot cover receivers on short routes. The kicker is below average, the playcaller (OC) doesnt know how to use his personnel in the way that is most likely to be successful and the special teams, although they played ok yesterday, are at best average. Who do we think we’re kidding? We’re just not that good.
Marfar
Overrated by whom?
Everyone in the media thinks they suck
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
they're right
it will be fun watching us limp to the finish line with 4 wins
by MrDollarBills on Sep 12, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
overrated?
their not rated at all by media standards. Sure fans may overrate them but thats no different from any team
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
thought so
I saw you listed at number 3 on SI’s list of “the NFL’s most overrated fans”. You were behind Lebron and Fireman Ed
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Can somebody please ask me
“You mad, bro? "
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
(thanks )
I just spent almost $1,000 friggin’ dollars to spend a three day weekend that revolved around the Giants game.
And I got a team that didn’t look all that interested in playing. From the moment they took the field, to all the countless times I was they were right in front of me in the end zone, they looked like they were medicated or something.
I’m just disappointed in how poorly they played but pissed off at the lack of enthusiasm.
Is the coaching staff making them miserable and taking the fight out of them? SM DAMN H
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dang man I feel sorry for you.
I’d be pissed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I can take losing
But they just sucked yesterday
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by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well said
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah if they just looked uninterested I'd be fucking pissed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
oh damn...
I forgot for a second that you went. I would be pissed, too.
See, it’s not the losing that’s frustrating…it’s the nonchalant attitude that bothers me, too. It’s like “oh, well…”
unacceptable. It sucks that your trip had to be spoiled by a rotten performance.
Pathetic
nonchalant
I was wondering how it looked on TV.
I had a great time with my friends, but i hate seeing my team look like they were just going through the motions.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not ready to say this season is a wash
But getting handled by the Redskins is not something playoff teams do. Atlanta, New Orleans and Pittsburgh all lost to good teams, he were awful all over the place on Sunday, especially in the 2nd half. Too predictable on the playcalling to be honest. The defense was missing 5 starters from last year including the guys and the whole reason we have a “beast” Dline. We need Tuck and Osi back badly or St Louis is going to eat us alive.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
I dunno
I hate losing to the Redskins, but they always beat a playoff team or two every year. They always split with the Eagles every year too, so maybe we’re just trying to copy Philly for a change.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm looking for alot of things next week.
We need to come back with some fire and vengeance and start winning the LOS. Eli needs to step up and be the QB we know he can be, because right now he looks like doo doo.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Is there a different column...
for losses to “good” teams?? When the Giants come out next week and pummel the Rams will that mean everything is right in Giants land?? Because last I checked, the Rams are a consensus playoff pick.
by sexyscottish on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Good question
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good question
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Depends on if Bradford and Jackson play
If we don’t kill them with Feeley at QB, I’ll be ready to pull the plug.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Giants don't have a good track record
with backup qbs
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Only one game and we have a lot of work to do
I think most fans here are hitting the panic button because of the way the Giant loss, not who they loss too. Giants beat themselves yesterday and their was plenty of blame to go around.
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Rolle's Hit
he says he didn’t lead with his head, but the film don’t lie…..he also says he wasn’t involved with Shapiro….wonder how that will turn out for old Antrell
he did assassinate Kennedy
He did crash in Roswell…he’s behind the crop circles…
sank Atlantis
Pathetic
I sank Atlantis... They wouldn't give me the keys to the city, something about "only the worth shall enter" so I nuked that motherfucker.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Yeah, like who do they think they are?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Right!!
It’s a great thing that we haven’t found them yet because they’re catching a beating when we do.
Pathetic
Oh I know where they are, I'm the one that sunk them...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
gotta nuke something
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Love it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
This isn't exactly an apples-to-aples comparison...
“If the season is lost for the Giants, it is also lost for the New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons and Pittsburgh Steelers — and we know all of those teams are Super Bowl contenders.”
The Saints lost a close game to the defending champs and had a late drive with a chance to tie the game. The Steelers got blown out, yes, but by a team that was 12-4 last year. The Falcons (who are overrated IMO) lost to a team that was 11-5 last year. The Giants lost to a 6-10 team with Rex Grossman at QB. One of these things is not like the other.
Duh
How many chances do I get to guess?
This is as hard as the SATs.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Coaching staff gets a big fat "F"
for not being able to make adjustments in the 2nd half on both offense and defense. Grossman had too much time to throw and their receivers and TE were all over the field.
When will Gilbride get creative and stop running plays that don’t work on 3rd and 1? Ed is right, it looks like we had the same problems from last season.
Greg Jones will bring it and serve notice in the NFL
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Gilbride and creative don't go together
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Love seeing the lack of comments
On return coverage
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Sep 12, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
NFC East
Is always tough. Chill out Bridge Jumpers Divisional games are tough to win all the time. The Redskins were due to beat us as we had beat them 6 straight. Hear that Philly! I would wish that Fuel would play more man to man with our boys as they our better suited to that then this soft zone shit. Killdrive WTF maybe we can run the ball a little more as well as getting Jacobs more then 6 carries. Well time to get ready for the Rams 1n1 here we come.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Let um jump.
Less idiots to deal with.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Difference is that the Saints, Steelers, and Falcons lost to other Super Bowl contenders. We did not lose in such fashion.
Who is to say that Wash won't be washed up this year
I’m just saying…
They do look a lot better than last year’s squad. For instance a stronger running game and their defense has always been better when they play us. We’re in the same division, so they’ll know how bad KG calls the game, and now they know Fewell’s limitation on coverage schemes.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Tony Romo
the ‘gift’ that keeps giving to Dallas haters
How many games has Romo blown with 4th qtr critical mistake? Will never be a winner. Makes bad decisions at worst times.
Marfar
wearing a baseball cap
like a 14 year old kid is his biggest mistake
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I thought signing with the Cowboys was....
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
boom
lol, also a timely vacation to Cabo was a pretty big mistake too
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Media kills Eli for TO's all the time
But Romo has just as bad or worse track record for bad TO’s. Last night’s game is a perfect example of why he Romo is not an elite QB
by Late for Dinner on Sep 12, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
this
everytime its Romo throwing INTs… its thats he is doing everything for his team to win the game, he takes the risk. When Eli does it, it was poor judgement and cost the team.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuz he's gunslinger that's just having fun out there
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
wish I could wear my hat
like a 14 year old boy at work… he gets to and its not fair
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We are known for our amazing D line. Playing off coverage and zone is stupid.
With our pass rush, if we play bump like in Spagz time, the qb wont have much time to throw the ball. The QBs are getting time cuz if the CBs are 10 yards off, after the snap he’ll throw little dumpers the whole game like Rex did. And the worst part is playing zone with 0 pass rush and throwing to wide open receivers aka Fred Davis _
I am on board with the coaching...
..being the main reason we lost yesterday. This goes for both sides of the ball. What is the problem with rushing at least 5 per down and playing man coverage? That seems to play to the strengths of the Giants far more than sitting back in zones. Cover 2 apparently means cover only 2 people on the play, since there were so many people open. I didn’t even see the individual players being beaten in that coverage, so much as the coverage scheme left far too many gaping holes which the receivers just ran to. They really need to disrupt receivers some at the line. A lot of the pass plays are based on timing, i.e. the receiver getting to a set spot at a specified time. Seems to me that bumping the receiver at the line to hold him up should work the best at killing that option.
I am as clueless as everyone else as to why the Giants abandoned the run. Nicks seemed to be the only wide receiver who was thrown to with any success yesterday. Ham still runs the wrong routes, Cruz couldn’t catch a cold while ice fishing naked, and Hixon was just not thrown to (whether due to him not being open or Eli just not seeing him, I am not certain). The only way I see the offense succeeding is by sticking to what is working…we ran very effectively in the first half; there is no reason to change that until the opponent shows that they are stopping it.
I'm sure you guys noticed
But sash was out there for some snaps.
4 Safety sets? Seems really strange to me
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
yeah I got nothin'
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really 4 safety sets.
Rolle was Nickel corner, Grant was a coverage LB, and we had 2 deep, Sash and Phillips. It’s going to be that way when we go Nickel or Dime with 2 deep. At least until Prince starts playing and Rolle can go back to safety.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
A few thoughts..
1) The soft zone Fewell is implementing is not working. The secondary we have plays much better in a tight man scheme. Our defenses strength is the Dline, and putting pressure on the quarterback. There are 5 lineman and a quarterback. By blitzing 5 or 6 we can put pressure on the QB, and force him to make quick throws into tight man coverage. That would work for our team. Instead Fewell implements this soft zone, zero pressure system where the opposing QB just waits and waits and waits until our below average secondary allows someone to get wide open.
2) Our offensive play-calling was atrocious. 3rd and 1 and we set up a pitch play where Bradshaw gets the ball 8 yards into the backfield. So all of a sudden he needs 9 yards in order to get the first. Last time I checked we have a RB who is 6’5", 260 pounds. Why not use him on a quick handoff when we only need a few yards? Second, there are things such as play-action, post routes up the middle to beat the blitz, and deep passes to spread the field and create uncertainty among the defense, but I’m not sure that Gilbride knows this.
There are many other issues, such as Tynes, Quinn, and the failure to make in game adjustments, but those two that I stated are the worst, IMO.
The problem with this team is that the coaches, and the players for that matter are consistently outsmarted. Until the IQ level of this team someone goes up, were in for a rough stretch.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
*somehow
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Manning got outplayed by Grossman
Enough said.
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Sep 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
Laughable.
If you think that’s the reason they lost you know nothing about football. Or you didn’t watch the game.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Manning looked like hot garbage last night
That’s what happens when you generate a pass rush consistently
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Manning did what he could.
He was under constant pressure. He barely had time to finish his drop back before he was being pressured. No QB would excel like that.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This
but I’m just an Eli apologist so…
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
If you re watch the game,
He was not making poor decisions, and was making good throws when he had the time. He had 14 incomplete passes, 3 were drops, out of the other 11, he was pressured on most of them. And, none were bad throws that were close to being picked or forced into coverage. He took what he was given, made safe, sure throws. Manning may be the least to blame for the loss. Some people would rather just bash him than watch the game and analyze it.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
no no no no
You backed up everything you just said with facts and gameplay. Seems like you watched the game. Thats not how it works.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
on his incompletions he was actually safe with the ball too
nothing was forced at all. If the play wasn’t there he threw it where no one could catch it
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
YUP.
But it’s his fault the o-line made him run for his life, and it’s his fault they lost. I have come to a conclusion after watching the game yesterday with my Dad. After the interception he said, “Manning fucking sucks.” I said why, because McKenzie failed to do his job and the Redskins player made an outstanding play? He said,“No, because it’s his fault.” I gave him the wtf are you serious look. He said,“Everything is Manning’s fault.” It was then that I came to the conclusion that he exemplifies the Manning haters on here. He sucks. Why? He just does. It wasn’t his fault. everything’s his fault. Unintelligent comments based solely on one’s dislike for him, nothing what so ever to do with actual fact. Not once yesterday did he throw a ball that made me say, WTF are you doing Manning. I never once had the fear he was going to make a bad decision, and he didn’t. Ask Kareem McKenzie who’s fault the interception was, if he doesn’t say it was his fault, he’s lying.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
'He sucks. Why? He just does'
sums up hate for him
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally Agree
Eli is very low on my list of problems or things to worry about. But then I get called an apologist or pollyanna for trying to show that he is the least of the Giants worries.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I noticed with you Eli Apologists
that no matter what, Eli has absolute zero fault when the offense plays bad. I wish the rest of the world saw him the way you guys do.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
Not an apologist.
He had one bad play yesterday, and it wasn’t even his fault. Now had he throw a ball directly at a DB, say like Romo or Rothlisberger did, I would say it was a shitty throw and a bad decision. He didn’t do any of that. Stop trying to find fault when it’s not there. If he plays a bad game, I’ll let you know. yesterday was not it.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
so, other QBs have bad games but Eli doesn't.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
Can you read?
I said if had had a bad game yesterday, I would have said so, I don’t make excuses, but to say he had a bad game yesterday, when he did not, is idiotic.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go insulting people again. Yes, the kid can read. He is on a blog. Well, that was hard to figure out.
And no, he’s not idiotic. He’s allowed to disagree with you.
Get off the high horse.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I called an idea, in general, not even something he said, idiotic.
Not him.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Its implied.
Regardless, comment after comment I see so many people insulting those who disagree with them.
We have had intelligent conversations before, so its upsetting to see this.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Sorry if you felt it was implied.
I was saying the idea of saying someone sucks (not just Eli, it goes for anyone) based solely on opinion is idiotic. If I was saying he was idiotic, I would have saved us all time and just called him an idiot.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
But the responses on this site such as “can you read” or “do you even watch the games” or “you’re not a real fan” or “LOL” whenever someone has a disagreeing opinion just get old.
We can all read here (its a blog) and we are all real fans who watch the games (or we wouldn’t be here).
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Suppose I was a little harsh with the can you read comment.
But I did say If Eli had a bad game I’d say so, then he replied with so other Qbs can have a bad game, but Eli can’t. It was a blatant disregard of what I said.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Only negative thing I could say about him yesterday
was accuracy issues for the intermediate passes. Also miscommunications (we don’t know if its the WR fault or Eli’s).
His decision-making and deep throws were good yesterday. He seemed a little skittish though in the pocket…looks to me like he doesn’t trust the OL
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I could have been ugly
c’mon big guy, don’t feel bad…I’m someone out there thinks you’re beautiful….
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
*there’s….not I’m haha
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
too late
you think he’s cute
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
damn. the secret's out
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I only recall one
the one to Manningham
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
yup his only real high throw, and Ham caught it.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is when he does make bad decisions (not saying he did yesterday), everyone still comes up with an excuse for it.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
well yeah, that's not right either
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Not all of the INTs last year were his fault, but a good amount were. Not saying he sucks, but to defend everything he does seems absurd to me.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Here we go
lol
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
why?????
not complaining… just asking, lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Replying to the "here we go" comment...
I was going to go with the Bud Light bottle image but thought this one was more appealing.
Pathetic
+1. That is correct.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
oh ok
I was trying to figure out the connection between the comments… bud light slipped my mind cause for once, beer was not the focus point for me.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
And here we go with the insults. Just because he disagrees with you, doesn’t mean he doesn’t know anything about football.
Why is it so hard to have an intelligent conversation without insulting people? Everyone has different opinions. Maybe if you didn’t discrediting everything that doesn’t fit into your belief system, you might learn something.
It doesn’t even matter who’s right or wrong anymore. This goes beyond football. We all need to seriously grow up, at least for Ed’s sake.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
sorry but the defense deserves a wet willie
never have I seen a non physical defense like I saw yesterday. We started the game being aggressive and then we just decided to stop and just play contain. Last I checked when you are getting three and outs on a team you keep doing what you’re doing until something changes. I dont see this problem going away any time soon. Fewell will not call an aggressive game which is why we always have issues with our defense. We go after the quarterback it always starts off that way but unfortunately Fewell is afraid to keep going for the throat. Call me crazy but we need more aggrassion and right now I dont see it coming from anyone that played yesterday. I honestly think we need to remove some cancers and add some aggressors on defense.
oh and btw the CRUZ experiment should be over… He has become a one trick pony and has never lived up to anything. It makes no sense to keep a guy that constantly drops passes and can barely hold his ground on special teams. I predict a long season because we dont have anyone (startters that is… can’t say much about the rookies since TC never plays them unless he has no choice) that’s going to take the team on their back and will a win… oh well ANDREW LUCK anyone?
call me crazy
why dont we make a push for a player on another team say Rashean Mathis? Champ bailey? Brian Dawkins? Lito Shepphard? Trade a few draft picks and or players. I’m tired of thess soft under the radar pick ups. We NEED leaders not role players. Reese is a good GM but these reices pieces cannot restore our aggressive nature. We need some physical players
by clevacougar19 on Sep 12, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
problem is there's no one viable available
especially those guys you just mentioned who are either old, stink or both.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Picks are too valuable, that's how you killl a franchise
The cap makes trading players who have any unamortized siging bonuses extremely tough.
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Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
tom coughlin is an asshole plain and simple
benchin victor cruz after one play was absolute bullshit. hixon didnt do anything in the 3rd wr slot. im not saying fire him but this guy just is not a motivator and does not know how to rebound when things are going bad in a game. when a guy does something bad you dont curse him out, throw ur headset, and bench him. you wanna talk about being a man? that is not a man. that is how a child acts. coughlin may be old enough to be my grandfather but the guy just has ZERO composure. you can go and bash me all u want and tell me to jump off the ledge or whatever. but most of u on here no im an optimistic giants fan and defend them often. im sick and tired of seeing coughlin yelling at people. why not do some coaching instead?
plaxico’s recent comments have been in my mind ALL F-in day. Plaxico is starting to sound like the good guy when u see your head coach on the sidelines throwing temper tantrums like a little ass kid
by The Blood of Eli on Sep 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
I agree he was too quick on the trigger to bench Cruz.
Let the kid learn from his mistakes..as for TC he’s still a damn good coach. This game looked like he and his coaching staff was in preseason mode. But we’ll see after the next game. But it’ll be a long season if we see inconsistencies from one game to another. That’s for sure.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Victor Cruz is not ready. And he doesn't look like a good slot receiver anyway.
And to the person above me, only if you believe that this is a losing team,… that’s when you let inexperienced players learn from their mistakes.
Your tantrum is completely uncalled for. Who the Hell is Victor Cruz, for you to be getting this angry. Dude had all preseason to show that he had something and he didn’t. Both Thomas and Hixon outperformed him. It was TC’s favoritism that made Victor Cruz start ahead of them.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
Victor Cruz is a stand-in....
For Coughlin’s inability to handle adversity during a game and to show a willingness to have players grow. If it’s important to pull a novice for screwing up, how can a veteran like Rolle be allowed to stay in the game with that absurd penalty? What’s the ‘teaching moment’ message Coughlin is sending…..earn your screw ups?
I hear you loud and clear
but It’s like the Yankees and AJ Burnett, they can’t bench him, because they have so much invested in to him. And yeah, you can think that a benching would humble a player, but it can also make you lose that player for good.
But in this situation, Antrel Rolle can’t be benched because we have limited players in our secondary.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
+1
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
The Giants need to run the ball more often
Our offensive line look great when we ran the ball and looked terrible when we passed. We need to use to run to set up our passing game. With B-JAB, there is no reason why we shouldn’t be running the ball 30+ times a game. Even if teams are scoring quickly on us, we shouldn’t let that destroy our gameplan on offense.
Out of everyone, Gilbride pisses me off the most. But I won’t blame him because he isn’t the HC.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
agree
being down by 7 in the 3rd quarter does not mean they should abandon the run, but thats pretty much what they did. Give Jacobs the damn ball
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And I'm not trying to disrespect Eli,
but with this O-line and his lack of security blankets, we need to relegate his role to “game manager.” Short passes and deep throws here and there. Our offense would be so much more efficient.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
fair point
being a game manger is not a bad thing, its just not flashy and the QBs game stats look weak.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be a good way
to get the whole O going. Or even try no huddle to get into some sort of rhythm. But like you also said they can’t abandon the run.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
ENTIRE coaching staff deserves a wet willie
Once again a Tom Couglin team is unprepared. His coordinators are terrible. TC’s game clock management is a joke. The Giants had 3 timeouts at the end of the 1st half. Skins were inside the 10. Use your timeouts so your offense has time on the clock.
KG – predictable play callling. Short yardage was a monumental failure. Our heavy package is terrible. It rarely works. How many times does something need to failure before our coaches come up with something different. We run a pitch out. On 4th down the Skins spread out the offense and passed the ball.
PF – first the tampa 2 is a joke. I was at the game. Receivers were wide open running free the entire game. In 3rd and long PW’s defense was getting shredded because he was rushing only 3. Meanwhile, each time the Skins had us in 3rd and long they brought the house.
TQ. The fact that he’s still coaching is reasons enough for TC’s firing.
if he puts together a 7-9 season
or better, he will not be fired.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
Yes.
less than 7 wins would be unacceptable. If we continue to play the way that we are, I see him being fired. And whether you guys believe this or not, Tom Coughlin is the type of coach you get tired of playing for if you are losing. So if this continues, be prepared to see our guys quit on him.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
but management loves coughlin
depends how bad we look if we win less than 7 games
by jadedeed2327 on Sep 12, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
we have seen the collapses before.?
There are always reasons, but there is only one man at the top during these collapses
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Sunday, Sept. 11 2011 NYG 23 WAS 13
by tommy d. on Sep 12, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and you can't keep someone if the team quit on him
remember 09 Bill Sheridan.
Judicious Observer: Eli had 30+ Turnovers, that can't be good.
Eli Apologists: HE ALSO HAD 30 TDS AND 4000+ YARDS; HE'S GOD!!!!!!!!!
Sigh
Depends on the last four games
Even if we’re out of it, if the team shows heart and guts he’s got a shot. If we get killed by the Jets and Cowboys and they play like they don’t want to be there (see 2009 carolina 41, nyg 9) he’s toast.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
Kiwi
Kiwi looked very slow….nothing like last year
by freakynjbifemandhubby on Sep 12, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
Kenny Phillips
I usually am very harsh with my critcism for “superman” but dude looked crisp. On time in coverage for most plays that he should be responsible for.
Other than that I My mother always told me that if I don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything.
When do we get Prince back?
You down wit JPP?
Yes.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
I just saw the Goodyear blimp fly over my house while I was outside smoking, think I saw a few bodies drop off of it too. I can only hope it was a couple of the doomsayers that plague this site.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
lol
nice
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Always,
you’ll be happy to know I was well dressed wearing my Toomer Jersey during the game yesterday. Alas, it was to no avail.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Very well dressed indeed
I broke the thread. I usally always wear Amani on opening day but this year I got an Eli jersey for like 90% off (it was that cheap cause he sucks). So I wanted to break it in, sadly it has gotton off to a 0-1 start, like my Nicks jersey. I may wait on Toomer for week 3, it seems to be my good luck jersey.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I should have gone with the Eli jersey
They seem to win more often than not when I wear it. Tried to get cute with the throw back, and it cost us dearly. I will be the martyr. I apologize to all fans, it’s my fault I wore the wrong jersey.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
well that settles that
yesterday was all your fault. I hereby order you to hand in your “fan card”.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 12, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
That would be giving up too easily, like some seem to have already done. I’m too stubborn for that.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else question why we don't go no-huddle?
Whenever Eli runs the no-huddle offense in the last 2 minutes we move up the field very efficiently.
Why don’t we change it up and use it some more, especially when the defense gets caught with too many lineman or secondary guys, etc?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
There's an obvious answer to why we have success in the no huddle.
It’s because Eli is calling the plays, not Gillbride. They should let Eli do what Peyton does and call either a run or a pass at the lien based on the defense he sees. A lot of Gillbride’s calls play right into what the defense calls, and if Eli had the freedom to change the play whenever he saw fit, I think we’d see a lot less of those maddening Gillbride calls that make you go WTF, even I knew that was coming.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn this quote was awesome.
There’s an obvious answer to why we have success in the no huddle.
It’s because Eli is calling the plays, not Gillbride.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 12, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The truth shall set you free.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen brother.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Anyone else see Eric Berry out for season?
That is a killer blow. Really feel for one of the promising you stars in this league and hope he makes a full, speedy recovery.
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
Hakeem Nicks
waiting for injury news……doesn’t sound good
I ain't trying to hear that
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
False Alarm
just a bone bruise….KEEP HIM AWAY from the Mets medical staff
by Cruz Control on Sep 12, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Eli
to Indy and let’s get in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes
The good news is the Skins usually...
…split with the Cowboys or Eagles if not both.
So we’ve got that going for us.
Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.
So we going to try to get this to 1000 posts?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Turnovers and dumb penalty's, and the kicking game......
And don’t forget ST play. I don’t see any improvement from last year. Unacceptable for professional, high paid athletes.
I agree with this post 100%
The third down play calling was horrid. Who calls a screen play on third and 15? Eli was outplayed by Grossman. They need to run the ball more. Stop getting stupid penalties. Improve secondary.
Tynes
WTF is this love fest the Giants have had with this bum over the years?? he sucks and has always sucked. Kick offs, field goals totally inconsistant…dump this bum and the punter was not great yesterday either and with the field position the Giants had all game I bet they missed Dodges big foot.
dude he was 19 of 23 on FGs last season. Yea, he's really inconsistent.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 12, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
I’d say the pick six is half on Kareem, half on Eli. Yes, Kareem has to block, but Eli also needs to read and react to the play.
He should have seen that there was a big defensive end blocking his passing lane.
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by Frank Campagnola on Sep 12, 2011 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
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