Giants 18, Patriots 17: Youth Is Served
by Ed Valentine on Sep 1, 2011 10:46 PM EDT
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PrintI have no idea how this season will work out. The New York Giants could be extremely good and wind up making a deep playoff run. They could go 6-10 and have the fan base screaming for everyone's head.
One thing I do know after watching Thursday night's 18-17 preseason-ending victory over the New England Patriots. There were an awful lot of talented, exciting young players wearing Giants uniforms.
Jacquian Williams, Da'Rel Scott, Spencer Paysinger, Andre Brown ... even the shaky rookie punt returner Jerrel Jernigan and several other young players had highlights throughout the night.
One other thing. The Giants have to cut five players Friday and get from 80 to 53 on Saturday. Those cuts are going to be brutal, and there are going to be some good players turned loose -- players who will quickly get snapped up and land on other teams.
That, by the way, is a sign of a talented team that should be good.
NOTES: Reports from a variety of Twitter sources are that linebacker Clint Sintim suffered a ruptured patella tendon in his right knee and will be out for the season. A really unfortunate break for a much-maligned player who seemed to finally be turning a corner.
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Clint Simtin ruptured patella tendon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The nightmare continues
Not laughing at him
Just at the situation. Feel terrible for him. But God hates us.
I'm hysterical right now
I don’t even care anymore. This is a joke. I’m at the point where I can only laugh.
injuries happen to everyone on the team
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Please delete my post
I didn’t mean for it to be taken the wrong way but now realize it has been. I feel terrible for Clint Simtin and I was frustrated by the black injury cloud over this team.
Nothing against him at all and I hope he gets back to 100% by next summer.
I got what you meant
People are too quick to jump down others throats or just don’t get sarcasm, I haven’t figured it out yet
Why?
Why’s it gotta be a ‘BLACK injury cloud’?
What color do you envision an injury cloud to be?
Powder blue?
lol what the hell
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
I thought Sintim just sprained it?
if its a torn PCL, what a shame. Every time the guy looks like he’s gonna make an impact something like this happens.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It's not a PCL....
it’s a tendon, muscle to bone. Ligaments attach bone to bone.
It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!
I passed anatomy, thanks
I saw PCL written, if its tendon its worse.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
It clearly said ruptured patella tendon Dr..
shoulda known you know everything.
It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!
hey doctor
get me a prescription will yea. I need some percocet and whiskey
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Don't forget Sash
Tyler the Mother F*cker Sash
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
AGREED
He was a beast tonight and its TMFS Tyler Mother F*cking Sash!!!!
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
my bad
punishment for that is a hit by Sash, I’m screwed now
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I wouldnt want to get hit by him either hes so much bigger than he was last year
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and u get a pass
No punishment for u. Ur not a hawkeye fan so ur just learning the sash name lol
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sadly, I'm an Irish fan
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
lol well
Ill forgive u and im sure Sash will to but know u know what it stands for so if u mess up again Sash gets to hit u lol
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
understood
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
SHAKOOR96
Darel Scott should make this team
by Shakoor96 on Sep 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
When you have
1 carry for 97 yards and 1 TD in one game, and then 12 carries for 114 yards and 1 TD, that’s making a solid case for yourself to stay. I can’t see him not being one of the final 53.
"The worst thing you can do, at least this is what my friends tell me, is to come after me," Calhoun said. "I'm usually better at coming out of the corner than I am up on the pedestal. I haven't been on many pedestals, by the way. I'm a natural underdog, I guess -- sometimes for no apparent reason. And if I can't be the underdog, I'll make myself the underdog, somehow or other."
by uconncountry on Sep 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
His average yards per run dropped by 87 from game 2 to game 4.
Do we really want to keep a guy who loses this much production in just two games??
ehh
I mean he had two big runs. I not ready to say he’s a beast. Looks good but andre brown looks better. Dare I say our run game this year is going to help our passing game so much that it covers up some of our other weaknesses
by wrxsti28 on Sep 2, 2011 12:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
da rel looks like a serious candidate to make the team
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Gotta keep them both - Brown & Scott.
DJ Ware should get cut. Must get cut.
by DJ Farnaquelhe on Sep 2, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Reese is awesome
Jones, Sash, Herzlich, Paysinger, Scott, Williams, and Paysinger are fast, hard football players. All are late round or UDFA players.
Kudos. Tough cuts coming up.
I am a huge Sash and Jones fan, but Herzlich looks like a wounded beast out there.
no wait Reese has nothing to do with the late rounders
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Ha!
It’s getting to the point where he should trade his 3rd rounder for a 6th and 7th. Bradshaw, Scott, Sash, Jones etc…seriously?
Reese will always keep us competitive. He supplies the talent and Coughlin the coaching. There is no excuse to not have top notch STs anymore.
Herzlich looks like a wounded beast out there.
that had a sack and forced another.
ill take that " wounded beast" n let him heal
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Usually a wounded beast is a dangerous animal.
That’s a good thing when talking about a football player. I think he was saying he looks hungry out there, and is all over the place doing good things. Don’t think he was talking about his coming back from cancer.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I am a huge Sash and Jones fan, but Herzlich looks like a wounded beast out there.
im sure you can see where i could have thought other wise. I didn’t think he meant cancer. i was amusing wounded meant slow.
but that the internet for ya.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
amusing = assuming
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Yup. My bad
Perhaps I should have used a different analogy given his cancer recovery. Just meant to say that he was playing heads up ball in coverage, dove into piles to stop runs, and pushed the OL into the QB where he then proceeded to punish the QB.
I gotcha buddy.
It’s what I’m here for.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant begin to think what cuts will be made
dudes stepped up all over..
LB , RB …. absolute quandary,
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
lbz will be tough
but i assume if it comes down to williams and herz that williams can make it to the ps, were herz would get picked up so they keep him
not anymore
the call before was do we keep 8. Now we have 7 pretty strong locks. That’s all we’ll keep.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yep with Sintim out for the year
Goff, Boley, Kiwi
Paysinger, Jones, Herz, Williams
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Williams is a beast
He was everywhere on the field. He has great speed. I hope they find a spot for him. I would keep Jones . Let go Dillard go and put Sintim on pup.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Sintim isn't going PUP
he’s IR, he’s done. And I think everyone here would agree, Dillard played himself off this team. He was especially bad tonight, spent the whole night in chase mode.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Herz is an animal. You can hide Williams on PS.
not from the pats u cant.
that would be the ultimate payback ,them scooping him up
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I get in front of the PC with a pint of Haagen Daaz Rum Raisin
I’m ready to read positive reports and stuff my face. Then I see that Sintim is done for the season. Terrible news. Absolutely terrible. I’m so disappointed. I can’t even imagine how he feels.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Which also means
good players will be cut by other teams too. TE? FB? CB?
Sintim's injury would make me feel a lot worse
If I hadn’t just seen Greg Jones, Jaquain Williams, Mark Herzlich, and Tyler Sash abuse the Patriots line and Ryan Mallett.
Still it really sucks for him. I was pulling for him to surprise and shut some people up.
Agree
That’s a tough break. What’s worse for him is if these young linebackers are as good as they look his time with the Giants is probably over.
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think everyone's making too much out of the linebacker cuts
With Sintims injury, Ramses Barden starting the season on the PUP and Koets they can all be kept including Da’rel Scott
I just think they will carry only two tight ends for now and a few less defensive linemen then last year because Kiwanuka can double as a DE/LB as could Adrian Tracy (if he takes Sintim’s roster spot".
I’m just excited for the season to start now, low expectations all over the place, but a team tha tlooks like it could have a very plus running game and defense could lead to a lot of wins for the GIants this year.
I was thinking the same wrt Tracy and Kiwi
I like Tracy more than any of our DE after JPP. i also like having a bunch of LBs for specials
The Giants like Andre Brown and we’re hoping he could beat out D.J. Ware, but he didn’t. )
not sure i agree with that . At all!!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I think Da'Rel made it very hard to cut him
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Why would they cut Scott?
He’s the most explosive RB on the roster. I think Ware will get cut. They will probably keep Scott and Ware.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Brown.
Scott and Brown
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Hope you're right
Brown didn’t impress me too much (neither does Ware…something’s missing with him and it’s not talent) plus Brown’s an injury waiting to happen and that’s a bad mix with the Giants
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown was only hurt once. just happen to be a really bad one
The dude was stella playing the Pats #1s
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
In the N.F.L
Also has a reputation of being injury prone from college
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they keep Brown and Scott
and jettison Ware. What’s he done with the Giants? Nothing special.
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here!
Brown has really improved and scott and threat to score anytime he touches the ball.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
not sure broken bones count being as thats not
something that can be linked to lack of conditioning.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
Ware has poor vision
He sets up his blocks poorly, and he can’t see where the hole will develop before it does. He has to wait for the hole to open, and once it’s there, it’s the only place he’s running. If the hole doesn’t open up, he still will try to run the ball where the play was intended, instead of trying to make something happen. He has very poor vision.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't love Ware
Just don’t know if the Giants feel the same way.
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's hard to cut a RB that has shown some huge play potential (Scott)
Speed is one thing, but when you make big plays, run right past guys, thats not so easy to find
I could see Scott beating out Ware and Brown
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
D Scott is a shoe in. special plays are all ready being designed for him.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I'll be shocked if he approaches 100 touches including special teams
He’s all about 2012, by then he may be a weapon
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
if he's as big a threat as he looked tonight
he may not get very many carries, but you have to find ways to get him the ball. Whether you split him out as a WR, throw him screens, what have you.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
much like D Scott IMO only Scott can make u pay in other ways
pulling for Scott n Brown,
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
agree
hopefully the Giants finally cut Ware.
We all know how stubborn they are with players they like though (Moss, Gerris Wilkinson…etc)
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i liked Brown
really patient. got positive yards and found the holes. not breakway speed but solid production
Question...
Did I miss something this preseason but why would Dodge beat out Weatherford for punter? I’m dead serious i haven’t really been paying attention to the battle but I just know Dodge is young with a great big inaccurate leg still and Weatherford is a precision punter so I don’t know someone explain this to me I’m not upset about this I mean at the end of the day it’s the punter, but I’m just confused because a shitty punter has obviously killed us in the past
Dodge has been getting distance and hang time
He’s not quite where he could be, but he’s looked dramatically better than last year
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Yeah
Dodge has punted much, much better this year.
Plus in training camp Dodge was working with Kick offs. If the Giants think Dodge can be a Kick off specialist and a good punter they could keep him.
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just confused
Because Dodge has upside granted, however he’s unproven and well Weatherford’s proven to be a solid punter and the best punter Metlife Stadium has ever seen haha I’m not wrong
at the end of the day
when it comes to the punter position you need them to be effective now, not eventually that’s all I’m saying
Everyone expected it to be a whitewash in Weatherford's favor
But Dodge has gone toe to toe and has made it a tough decision, I’m not sure who they will keep
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
i agree that Dodge has been much better than last year
but I think Weatherford’s ability to hold will put him over the edge if Sage is cut as most seem to expect
Dodge wins
i’m willing to bet on it. home grown, more upside, i think they’re willing to take the chance on him.
that is actually very close to what the final roster will look like imo
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
hate to see him hurt
But with sintim gone for the year that leaves a spot for another young kid to show us what he can do for a year and another preseason
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
really stinks
the 3 picks from the 2009 draft
Sintim – may be done for the year
Barden – may play after week 6
Beckum – … well I don’t know…
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
Only one pick from the 2009 matters!
Hakeem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well not really, but that draft could turn out quite well if Beatty proves to the LT of the future.
A Stud WR and franchise LT…what more could you ask for?
Have to see Beatty prove it this year though
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
true true
Nicks – no need to mention him….. the man is nasty
Will – I feel he is gonna be great on the line
I just wanted to mention the ones who had big chances this year but now not so much. I still hold out hope for Beckum to be a threat.
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah you get a LT and a top WR in a draft, you just smile
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
agreed
can’t complain
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course some would reward JR with a blimp ride
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Metlife Blimp
is on the way
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Sintim - cut him or put him on IR
dude is fragile no need for him. I guess we don’t have to make any cuts to our LB corps. Oh yeah, we’re going to put Adrian and Dillard on the PS.
Scott – I said after last game that he already won a spot… he definitely won that spot now.
Devin Thomas should be our Slot Receiver. Dude run crisp routes. I don’t understand why Coughlin is sooo in love with Cruz that he didn’t play today. Hixon and Thomas are more ready than he is. All I’ve seen from Cruz is straight line routes. I hope Cruz steps up to his responsibilities now or Coughlin drop him down the charts.
Cruz fell behind Hixon and Thomas in practice.
That’s why you saw Hixon and Thomas start and Cruz come in behind them. I think we’ll see a combo of Hixon/Thomas as the 3rd WR.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
this
i think Thomas should be our 3rd WR. he’s big and nasty. we know how Eli does with little guys.
Said ti durign the game
other than D. Scott and Herzlich making the team, and Beckum doing well, I would love to see Thomas be our 3rd WR.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, beer hands
that/during
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he loves the contact
and is 6 2 220. that’s the kind of guy i want to see over the middle. jeez, he’s almost big as Beckum
I think he will
the Giants clearly put an emphasis on adding team speed this off-season. Who’s faster than Scott?
I wonder if he can return kicks too
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
JR said that while he was in the booth
maybe he will (return kicks), I would like that
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
with the way things played out tonight, and the unfortunate injury to Sintim
I think the 53 man roster, and this is my opinion, looks like this:
Offense:
QB: Manning, Carr, Rosenfels
FB: Hynoski
RB: Bradshaw, Jacobs, D. Scott, A. Brown
TE: Beckum, Pascoe, Ballard (unless we find a good Te off another team, then no Ballard)
Wr: Nicks, Mannignham, Hixon, Thomas, Cruz, Jernigan
OL: Snee, Mckenzie, Baas, Deihl, Beatty, Boothe, Petrus, Ndukwe, Meredith
Defense:
DE: Tuck, Umenyiora, Pierre-Paul, Tollefson, Hall
DT: Canty, Joseph, Bernard, Kennedy
LB: Kiwanuka, Goff, Boley, Jones, Paysinger, Herzlich, J. Williams
CB: Webster, Ross, B. Williams, Coe, Amukamara
S: Rolle, Phillips, Grant, Sash
K: Tynes
P: Dodge
The only ones I really couldn’t decide on were possibly Stacey Andrews over Ndukwe, Dodge over Weatherford, and Hall over Trattou.
What do you guys think?
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
IMO
they only carry two QB’s (and try to sneak Perrilloux through to the PS)
Manning & Carr, Perrilloux to PS
That would mean Weatherford over Dodge, I live Dodge with more upside, and tight competition, but Weatherford holding FGs and keeping it in the 20 will eventually win out I think…
if not then I don’t mind Dodge at all, and him winning it would sure give him more of a confidence boost.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
Either Rosenfels or Carr and Perrillous to PS
Carr wasn’t impressive. I like Rosenfels over Carr but Rosenfels makes more money and gets hurt too often.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
my same reason to like Carr over Rosenfels
$$, age and injury
alhough I would rather have Carr if any of the above were less likely, but unfortunately it isn’t that way
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
If you put Amukamara you have to count Osi as well
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
It seems on the money
still not sure about the number of QBs they go with… 2 or 3
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd sub out Rosenfels for Perrilloux
And DeOssie is missing
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
thats right
need a long snapper… pro bowler at that
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit
Add Deossie, take off Rosenfels
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Great job
I would take Trattou over Hall and Andrews over Ndukwe. Others picked up on DeOssie so you are right to drop Rosenfels.
Andrews over Ndukwe and Trattou over Hall.
Not sure who will win the punting spot.
Pascoe and one or two of the corners will be gone after the other teams make their cuts.
The only glaring weakness I can see on the squad is TE and depth at corner. Davis overpaid for Boss and luck dealt us a bad hand with the injuries to the corners.
Oh, and Quinn sucks.
and something tells me hixon makes it too
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
sorry u got him
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
You forgot about Deossie
Instead of 3 QBS
"The worst thing you can do, at least this is what my friends tell me, is to come after me," Calhoun said. "I'm usually better at coming out of the corner than I am up on the pedestal. I haven't been on many pedestals, by the way. I'm a natural underdog, I guess -- sometimes for no apparent reason. And if I can't be the underdog, I'll make myself the underdog, somehow or other."
by uconncountry on Sep 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty solid
I wonder if the GIants are going to consider grabbing another veteran Cornerback that gets cut
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it.
Coe pretty much blanketed OchoCinco, that goes a long way. Think they’ll go with what they got, with Brian Williams and Coe as the Nickel/Dime corner until Prince is back week 5 or whenever. And let’s not forget, Coughlin has already said they plan to use Rolle as the slot corner on 3rd down, so we technically don’t need another corner.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
yea I guess I'd go Brewer over Ndukwe
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Brewer looked much better last night
And they drafted him as a project, I bet he makes the roster
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
DeOssie
Can’t forget, guys got the second most secure job on the Giants behind Eli
The Sintim news tears my heart out
But i know Reese wont cut him, damn after he worked back from last year’s injury, now this!! Hopefully Sintim and Thomas come back with a fury next year.
Williams, Paysinger, Herz, and Jones stepping up is an excellent sign that we are in good hands though.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
looks like
We better find Scott a new jersey number soon cant have 2 34s on the team and i dont think they will take it from grant
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
gibe him #0
For the number of defenders that catch him when he hits full speed
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
So you're saying...
bring back the “X” jersey out of retirement from the XFL? because Da’rel Scott may be an X factor with that speed this year and we all know once that happens I smell a top selling jersey
You know what worries me?
How long does Daa’Rel stick with this team? He clearly has more than enough talent to start for a lot of teams in the NFL, but we have Jacobs and Bradshaw locked up.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
jacobs for 2 more years, bradshaw for 4
but sadly, i see da’rel being another steve smith type, he obliterates his rookie contract, and moves on elsewhere :(
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
So?
I don’t remember Scott’s contract, but I doubt Jacobs lasts through the entire duration of Scott’s rookie contract (probably three or four years)
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
and we're a little ahead of ourselves on Scott
I’m a big fan of Scott, but we still haven’t seen him do anything vs #1 defenses, yet
by EliManCrushing on Sep 1, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes and teams cut guys with a year left all the time
so they can control him till they are ready to make a decision.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Yea
that was my hope, Scott becomes our #2 if we can keep him through next season for after Jacobs is gone.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, Mo just struck out Adrian Gonzalez to end the ball game.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
just saw it, sweeeeeeeeet
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
Burnett pitched…..well???
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ehhh, ok i guess
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yea if I could have put shakiness of my voice in that well, I would have.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
All the way
I believe the giants will win the super bowl this year!
Just throwin' this out there...
but Reese’ last 4 picks this year have performed better than most teams first 4 picks.
THAT’S a good draft. (and I would very much like to thank the pats for drafting Solder. I’d still take a hurt Prince over him)
Has he looked bad?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
by wilddre22 on Sep 2, 2011 12:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know this is heresy but ...
I could see Bear getting cut, he just doesn’t look good. Especially if a guy they like gets cut. I’ve heard that Martellus Bennnet has worn out his welcome in Dallas.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Bennett got hurt though.
I think they will sign a TE too, but I think there’s almost no way they cut Bear over Ballard to make room for the new guy.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Bear has been underwhelming
even from a blocking perspective which is where he needs to shine
I completely agree.
He’s been awful blocking at Te, and OK at FB, but I still think they’d cut Ballard before him, not that I would.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Training Staff
At this point blame doesn’t matter but are they at any fault here? Why are so many of our guys going down with these injuries? A lot of it is bad luck but I’m starting to wonder if training and conditioning is an issue.
Sintim and Thomas were collision injuries
Can’t train for that
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
No.
There’s no defense for having your knee wrenched sideways.
Its not a flexibility issue, its not a strength issue. The human body is just not meant to bend that way.
There’s no defense for bad luck.
WOW
anyone see the replay of Vince Young rolling out to throw and pulling up with a bad hammy, that looked real bad.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
heard the 3rd string QB got hurt too
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ACL too? :(
Ralph Vacchiano Twitter
The #NYG believe that LB Clint Sintim, on top of the ruptured patella tendon, may have torn his ACL too. Unbelievable.
from a guy who tore an ACL
I only needed to see the replay once. if that’s the same knee, he’s done. as in forever.
This could potentially end his career
Damn shame
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Such a shame.
It may have ended his career regardless. He’s going to be looking for a job next season, if he can even play. More likely, he’s looking for a job in 2013, and is going to have to pray someone takes a chance on signing him. Just unbelievable luck for this guy. No doubt he had tons of talent, and was starting to show it the last few weeks. Feel downright sick for him.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
wish him the best
the news sure does sound bad
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 2, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Offense:
QB: Manning, Carr,
FB: Hynoski
RB: Bradshaw, Jacobs, D. Scott, A. Brown
TE: Beckum, Ballard ,Jonathan Stupar ( cut by Balt. better then anything we got)
Wr: Nicks, Mannignham, Hixon, Thomas, Cruz, Jernigan
OL: Snee, Mckenzie, Baas, Deihl, Beatty, Boothe, Petrus, Ndukwe, Meredith
Defense:
DE: Tuck, Umenyiora, Pierre-Paul, Tollefson, Tracy
DT: Canty, Joseph, Bernard, Kennedy
LB: Kiwanuka, Goff, Boley, Jones, Paysinger, Herzlich, J. Williams
CB: Webster, Ross, B. Williams, Coe, Amukamara
S: Rolle, Phillips, Grant, Sash
K: Tynes
P: Dodge
LS: DeOssie
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
So Tracy over Hall/Trattou and Bear cut for new guy.
Still think they’d cut Ballard before Bear for a new guy, I’d be alright with Tracy, I just haven’t noticed him this preseason, doesn’t seem like he’s done anything, but of all our young players on D, he’s maybe the one I wasn’t paying attention to.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
shit double post
Bear,Tratt,Hall easily make it past waivers. IMO
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
My other question is Barden
He’s clearly going to be back at some point, who do we cut when the time comes to make room for him. Doubt we cut any of the WRs above, so it might end up being a guy like Tracy (or last DE) or the 4th RB, Brown. Guess we’ll find out week 6
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
good news with that is you get 6 weeks of scouting on your guys. plus someone will probably end up injured or something. ideally we have a tough decision to make, but most likely that decision is made by external factors
Probably.
There will inevitably be an injury.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think have to keep ballard and pascoe....
I think they’ll cut Beckum as soon as they find a decent TE, on waiver wire. I think they’ll find guys who can do his job on this team that are not labeled TE…. They’ll cut last DE for Barden when he comes back. Sintim, and Ware, are gone, which is unfortunate, but that’s the business. 2 quarterbacks, and both backups don’t look good so I don’t care. I like your list though, I’d just switch Andrews for Ndukwe. I liken D. Scott to #44 in 2007, they’ll spell him in, and he could be a game changer…hope his success continues.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Beckum isn't going anywhere.
Just because your of the group that thinks he sucks and doesn’t like him, doesn’t mean anything to the Giants. He’s going to be the primary pass catching TE for this team, whether anyone likes it or not, and regardless of who they sign. Unless a team cuts a starting TE, which is not likely.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he sucks...
I just think they can adjust their packages, and I think blocking out of our tight end is more imperative than receiving right now. But that’s just my opinion. He’s ok, but I haven’t seen enough to say he’s a ‘shoo in’ as you’ve stated.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
He hasn't shown much
But he’s still the primary pass catching TE on the Giants.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
For now.
We shall see. I hope he shows up. I just like Ballard, because he has decent hands (nice catch in the 1st quarter), and can block for what JR (in the press box) alluded to: back to power running and play action. Which I would be ecstatic to see…I think Ballard/Pascoe would be suited. If they spread it out and go Brett Favre like last year, than Beckum’s the man.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather see Ballard then Bear imo.
Bear has been downright terrible blocking at TE, and only slightly better at FB, and we already know he’s not much of an option in the pass game. He’s honestly looked a lot worse than last year, only guy I’d really say that about.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd probably agree with that.
That one play, where he got pushed back 6 yards was awful.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
so maybe cut Bear, two TEs and then our FB?
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they go 3 TE, they almost have to
But I think that is also the one spot they’ll sign a guy from another team, unfortunately, I think they’ll cut Ballard to make room for the new guy, not Bear.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe someone else's # 3 TE will be cut and be our #1
ha.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
yea
he has honestly looked like he doesn’t know how to play TE. It’s mind bottling. You know, like when your thoughts get all caught up in a bottle?
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes sir.
Bottom line is our TE situation is less than adequate right now, which is not good if we’re going back to smash mouth and play action….
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed that it's def. the weak spot of this team
but they have run the ball extremely well all preseason with what they have, so I’m not worried so much about TE in terms of run blocking.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
i think we can def fine somebody better then S Andrews on the wire. hes really not good
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
I can live with that, just hope either Carr or Dodge learn to hold FGs
Hall, Perrilloux and Trattou to PS
we can def. sneak them on there
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
Agreed Brewer in, and I think you got the wrong punter...
I also think they keep Pascoe over Ballard solely for his ability to backup two positions, but I agree they look to the cuts to find a tight end, though if they find an upgrade there and the guy is more of a receiver type, Ballard might stay and Beckum might be done.
I'm telling everyone
Beckum isn’t going anywhere. even if I hated him, I’d still say he isn’t going anywhere, cuz he’s not. Ballard may be cut if they bring in a guy off another team, though I think that cut should be Pascoe.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Who gets cut in that case...
Is probably a matter of what skill sets whomever they picked up brings to the table. If he’s a good blocker, Ballard or Pascoe doesn’t make it, though I think Pascoe gets kept over Ballard just because he can back up two positions. But if they guy is a receive first TE, you can talk all you want, Beckum is expendable, as he’d have no role out of the TE position. I’m a big fan of Bear Pascoe’s but he hasn’t shown anything this preseason and Beckum hasn’t shown anything since he’s been on the team. One could argue objectively that Ballard has been the best of the three, but I still think it all depends on who the Giants can pick up elsewhere, but I’ll say flat out neither Beckum nor Pascoe has shown enough to be a lock on the roster, while Ballard, who there was no expectation of making the team has done at least as well. But put it all together and we still need a TE upgrade cause none of these guys is a starting quality TE.
I like Ballard better than Bear
Bear would be great for backing up both FB and TE spots, but we can find better
Ballard looked good out there, he’s big (not as big as Boss, but then Boss was Huge), blocked well enough, and caught a pass or two (looks like he has soft hands and ran his route well).
I would like to keep Ballard (IMO – MAYBE poor man’s version of Boss)…but if someone better from another team – then he’s gone too
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Bear,Tratt,Hall easily make it past waivers. IMO
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..
practice squad restrictions
I dont think Bear and Hall are eligible for thepractice squad. I think if they play in a certain amount of games they can no longer be put on the practice squad. I’m not sure what the exact rule is tho. Maybe someone can clarify.
All these injuries
it has to be the goddamn lockout. How else do so many people get injured for the goddamn entire season?
A wise man once said "never postpone to tomorrow what can be done the day after tomorrow. Except DFAing Mathis. Do that shit now, plz."
by Caseys Kiss of Death on Sep 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
Hate to say it, but the injury to Sintim..
makes the cuts easier for the coaches, as much as it sucks.
In Reese I Trust.
and at what point do we look at our strength and conditioning program....
I know these are mostly fluke injuries, but seriously…
In Reese I Trust.
This isn't the first season we've had a ton of injuries recently.
I’m just saying it’s something to look at.
In Reese I Trust.
by Give it to 44. on Sep 2, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
It looks like Clint’s time as a Giant has come to an end.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
by wilddre22 on Sep 2, 2011 12:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
ehh, we kept Wilkerson for longer
Clint stays…even though I would be on the fence with keeping him or not (if it were up to me, but it isn’t)
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Glad Giants didn't draft the LT Costanzo from Boston College
He looks like he’s not ready to face pro DEs. He’s been getting torched.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
Give him time
A lot of left tackles start out slow.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
Just look at Beatty
he was a bust until about 5 seconds ago…
is this allowed?
FWIW it’s from SBNation.. if not, deleting is fine by me.. wanted to add to the party
by dank7 on Sep 2, 2011 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 8 recs
So beyond awesome
Words cannot describe how much win that is right there. REC’d
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I like how he can be in 5 places at once
Team Okpokowuruk
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
by ct17 on Sep 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thief
U robbed that from blackheartgoldpants lol
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 2, 2011 5:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
now we need
Someone to make a new one of these of sash in a big blue jersey cant keep the hawkeye one
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 2, 2011 5:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Always well dressed
Look at study it and remember it lol someone on bhgp made this awhile back and thats where TMFS! Came from
we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!
by gianthawk34 on Sep 2, 2011 6:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Now I will remember. That is a great pic
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 2, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This pic just brought a tear to my eye.
Truly a thing of beauty!
by Matt V on Sep 2, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
impressed with youth
feel much better about lb;s after seeing williams,herz,jones,and paysinger,they look hungry.looks like ware might be cut.this kid jernigens is a little shakey..talented ..but shakey,not sure about him
btw
very impressed with sash, kid was all over.can cover and loves to hit.nice draft reese.
You gotta love this
http://www.ilovebacon.com/fresh-bacon/poll-who-should-tiki-be-with.html
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
A home run hitter
D.Scot. A home run hitter that we need. Give him the ball!!. And let him take it to the house.
Fastest play I’ve ever saw on the team.
Sash, Jones, Williams, Scott, Hynoski, Paysinger, Herzlich. SEVEN 6th or 7th round picks and UDFA’s. That’s quite a steal and haul.
The Giants still need a TE. Trade for Hernandez of New England’s? They already have Gronkowksi.
And by the way, I know the Giants draft BPA, but next year I was hoping for either linebacker Manti Te’o (or trade up for LB V. Burfict or L. Kuechly) or center Mike Brewster. But with Baas and the young linebackers, is that really a need now?
Of course the draft will depend on a lot of things that have yet to happen
but I think that a safety in the first round is a good possibility. Phillips has sucked this preseason and he’s a free agent next year.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No way.
Not gonna happen, sorry to burst your bubble.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
it'll still be BPA
But remember it would prob. be a mid to late 1st rd pick anyways, and Giants’ BPA board looks different than most analysts’ BPA board or all of them…just remember JPP :)
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Feelin bad for Síntim
The ruptured patella tendon is the worst knee injury you can have … Kelenna Azuibuke had the same injury and hasn’t played a game since. Its a career killer , I hope Sintim comes back but I doubt he’ll be the same player.
by TheBXRepresenta on Sep 2, 2011 6:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If its any consolation ...
One of the young promising LBs who might have been cut will now make the team. Herzlich or Williams most likely are the two guys will benifit the most from Sintims injury.
by TheBXRepresenta on Sep 2, 2011 6:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
that's the first thing I thought when Sintim went down
I like the 1 or 2 flashes that Sintim has shown in what? 3 years?
he has all that potential, but nothing has translated yet on the field, then this freak accident…
hope he recovers well and maybe we get out 2nd round pick back after all…(as a beast – not holding my breath here)… b/c Herzlich and Williams both look real good (albeit it was against 2s & 3s), but they showed more than Sintim has up to this point.
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Da'Rel Scott
I’m a terp and I’ve followed this guy since he came to college. Rough life, and he has battle through a lot. I love this kid.
Regardless of all that, lets real this in perspective. Some are acting like he is some amazing prospect out of no where.
In reality, he has schooled a bunch of third-team players in two games.
I hope he makes the team. I hope he is some sleeper phenom. But I’m holding my excitement in check until I see him in action against the big boys.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
Agree with much of it though
speed is speed and he does not hesitate, he sees the hole and hits it, accelerates and does not dance around.
That is playing against the big boys and if he can continue that, learn the blitz blocking schemes, he will be the Bradshaw of the future with afterburners.
Nice point
and if you school 2nd and 3rd team guys you’re doing what you should be doing. In 09 Nicks schooled 2nd and 3rd team guys during the preseason. Not saying Da’Rell is going to be Hakeem but when evaluating a rookie he’s dominated other guys in his situation which means he’s capable of being a 3rd team RB with some long term upside.
Hakeem
was amazing in college in his senior year. Da’Rel was never a home run hitter in college especially in games against good programs.
And there is a big difference between having a Jared Mayo meeting you at your hole then Tracey White.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
by Giantssincesix on Sep 2, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
That's because the Terps were awful, except for him.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
SASH
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 2, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if the Terps were considered 'awful'
Scott wasn’t the man on that team by no means. He wasn’t our impact play maker.
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
by Giantssincesix on Sep 2, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Scott is still unproven
But he has demonstrated in is opportunities that his speed translates to he game
That his size speed combo is somewhat rare, it makes it worth the risk. He can play on STs, he caught the ball well last night, and maybe they’ll give him a shot at KR.
Right now he’s just a might be, which is precisely what AB and BJ were at the same point in their careers.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I'd say Scott is on track
to be a Monster
Team Monster!!!
We better hold on to him, he does well in STs too..
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
Da'Rell is the real deal....
I know there were 2nd and 3rd stringers out there during those big runs, but the most amazing thing about him is his first step, the guy is flying the minute he gets the ball, and he outran EVERYONE.. i don’t care….3rd string or not…doesn’t mean those defenders don’t have speed. If this guy is used in screen plays, he will be a Tiki Barber type coming out of the backfield. IMO, Scott, Brown both make it, Ware goes, Herz, Williams, Peysinger, Jones all make it. Sorry about Sintim. i think the injury is unfortunate for him, but it may have saved a spot for one of these for guys. I don’t see Dillard making it. Williams reminds me of another #57….Byron Hunt….from ‘86 team. This is actually the best bunch of LB’s rookies that we have had in a long time!…to think….most of them are UFAs!…no way Herz gets cut……worst case..IR….for him…..
Impressed by Andre….i hated losing him when he got cut, but he really looks sleek now. We may have the best crop or RBs since Tiki, Jacobs, Ward, and Ryan Grant…. year. Thats right..we had him too in that stable!!
But why do we need 4 RBz?
Yeah, I like AB2 as well and Ware isn’t bad. But keep our big 2 and the home run hitter in Scott and let the other guys go. We’re Giants fans so most of us probably are watching the 2nd and 3rd teams from all the other teams in the NFL. There are other backs out there if we need them because of injury. But in all seriousness, what are the chances that, if we stay healthy, we play 4 rbz this year? Remember ‘08? it was supposed to be the Jake-Ward-AB show. and instead it was just Jake and Ward. AB had a couple of good games, but wasn’t Ware on that team as well? how much did he play? What about last year…How much did Ware play last year with just Jake and AB on the team. My point, we don’t need 4. Keep the best 3 and wish the other guys luck.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Agree I would like to see Brown & Scott both over Ware
Ware has had a lot of opps, time to cut ties and go with the younger movement direction, even though Ware isn’t that old, he is relatively old compared to the 2 younger guys.
He will be the Ryan Grant of some other team, real good for them, but mediocre for us. Plus the Giants always handle Ryan Grant well (like 10 rushes for 15 yards – WELL).
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
We may not need 4....but....
We have always kept 4 backs plus the fullback…. I see Hynoski….as Hedgecock’s replacement, Pascoe may not make the cut, Jake and AB of course, Scott and Andre as rest of RB package. Remember, they have to earn their spots on Specials. Scott is the halfback in the Punt team…i couldnt watch specific positons on specials, but i can see lots of fast LBs and RB’s on those teams. I believe TC always carries 4 RB’s plus a fullback. Not sure. Will you ever FEATURE all 4 ? NO. but i see Andre as DJ, and Scott as that intangible guy….the Ahmad of this year’s draft. I would love to see him run behind our first string line. We should also remember, not only are they running against 3rd stringers…..they are also running BEHIND 3rd stringers so…in a way…its all relative. I just love Da’Rel’s burst of speed the moment he gets the ball. And Andre, i like his constant forward motion, and hitting the hole quickly, before it closes. Either way, we again have a nice stable of backs to choose from. I don’t see either of those 2 getting cut. They will be IR’d before they get cut.
IDK if we always carry 4
I think it was just 3 in ‘07 plus FB. But a little FYI, I read that Tashard Choice may be cut by the ’boys. Just a reminder that RBz are really a dime a dozen, bcuz I think he’s better than Ware, AB2 and Scott.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
its was 5 in 2007 and 2008
plus a FB.. Jacobs, Bradshaw, Ward, Ware, Rebuen D
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 2, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
and we needed all of them..
Remember Reuben Droughns against the bears… and he had another game that he helped win…. Without our number 4 running back RD, we dont go to the superbowl.
"Oh god help us all, the Goodyear blimps are coming, OMGWFTBBQFTW!!!!!!"
"Who needs a Bomar, when one can have a Perriloux"
remember they play STs too
Team Monster:
JPP
"Da Real" Scott
Greg JONES
Herzlich
Paysinger
Jacquin Williams
and SASH
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