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Giants At Patriots: Five Things To Watch Thursday Night

The New York Giants finish their preseason tonight against the New England Patriots. Starters won't play much, if at all, and the end result of the game really does not mean much. There are, however, a number of roster spots on the line -- which means a number of intriguing things to watch for tonight.

Here are my top five, not necessarily in order:

Star-divide

The Backup Linebackers: The Giants currently have seven of them, and two or three are likely to be let go Friday and Saturday as the Giants get down to the 53-man roster limit. Spencer Paysinger, Clint Sintim and Greg Jones seem like locks -- in my opinion. You can make really solid arguments for keeping both Mark Herzlich and Jacquian Williams. Adrian Tracy and Phillip Dillard seem like they might be in the most trouble. Let's see if anything happens against the Pats that changes that.

The Third Running Back: Can somebody unseat Danny Ware for that spot? Ware has talent, but it has never really manifested and, at least to me, he seems impatient with the ball in his hands. Seems like too often he runs right past his blocking and gets himself tackled. Andre Brown, the fourth-round pick two seasons ago, keeps impressing in practice but not getting much done in games (12 carries 38 yards and two catches for four yards). Da'Rel Scott has that speed and Charles Scott has size and power none of the other guys can match. It's probably Ware's job unless somebody steps up and takes it away from him.

The Punting Competition: Will Pat Traina of Inside Football be right that Matt Dodge will win the job? Or, will I be right that the Giants cut the cord on Dodge and stick with the safer choice, veteran Steve Weatherford?

The Backup Corners: Veteran free-agent pickup Brian Williams might get some action tonight. Joe Burnett, Michael Coe and undrafted rookie free agent Darnell Burks are all looking to make a final impression and earn a roster spot. Right now, Coe is probably in the lead.

The Tight Ends: I wonder if the Giants will play Travis Beckum more than some other regulars tonight, just to try to get him going. Other than unproven Jake Ballard, none of the tight ends on the roster has been remotely impressive. It won't be a surprise at all if at least one of the tight ends who makes the 53-man roster is currently on someone else's team.

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Sintim

I want him to play a lot tonight.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 1, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He will

A lil birdie told me that he will be in through 3 quarters……..the only thing that may hinder that is his knee schedule in relation to him just playing on monday….also Sintim is a sure lock for our roster so they might use his spot to take a good look at A-train and or Herzlich.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta put 3rd WR in there

as well as punt returner. I expect Jernigan to still get reps as the punt returner and considering how both teams will likely be going with the scrubs, he should get plenty of opportunities.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I think your Guy Beckum

will be our starting slot receiver………..and i am totally fine with that

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckum

I just want to see Beckum actually make the right reads for a change and get open. The more I watch the guy the more I believe the issue is he just doesn’t get open.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckum

doesn’t get open because he very slow out of his cuts. Watch the incomplete pass inside the 5. He’s so slow. He gets no separation.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont agree with 56-11

But also comparing how Boss didnt get seperation to how “HE THINKS” beckum doesnt is also something i cant agree with cause Boss is 6’6 275….seperation from him really shouldnt be expected.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Sep 1, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not slow at all and you dont have to be super fast to be open.

He doesnt make very good reads and another thing is, he doesnt present Eli with a big target….there are smaller guys who present way more of a target than Beckum like Nicks and Ham.

Beckum has too know when to use his size and when to use his speed but his main issue is the reads and sight adjustments….Same as Cruz, but Cruz presents Eli with a better target area than Beckum does.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

not slow speed wise

he’s very slow coming out of his cuts. It’s as if he’s trying to be too precise.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he is thinking too much, you got that right.

or thinking too little which ever one lol

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

he shuffles his feet

most receivers make their cut on the dime.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes most Receivers do

Hybrid TE’s or whatever the hell he is may need some more work.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he has a tough time with the sight adjustments

more so than he should but i still have faith in the mis matches he creates.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um No

and no… The guy can’t shake a plodding LB and you want him in the slot!?! It’s time to stop hoping that he will be something special and realize he is a marginal NFL player at best.

by Madhops on Sep 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I'm wrong

But the guy hasn’t looked good at all this year. Worst part is id Iggs LB’s might be worse than our own and we don’t have someone who can run around in the middle of the field and make them pay.

by Madhops on Sep 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

this year hasn't started yet

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can shake them, he just cant shake the cobwebs out of his brain in

a pressure situation yet but i have hope….. but im an optimist so IDK how far my hope will get him.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB's as well

I think Carr wins because of cap and Sage hasn’t practiced much recently.
Carr was solid backup for us two years ago.

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Carr's healthy and cheaper.

I’m also confident he could come in and manage a game if he had to.

by Matt V on Sep 1, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Eli goes down

for any length of time we are toast so we might as well save cash at QB and try to scrape together an extra DT or CB.

by Madhops on Sep 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

considering the talent of the defense, running game and receivers

I doubt that the team would just fall on its face.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carr

will be very capable taking over this team at QB if needed. He was a highly touted QB coming our of college that got the snot beat our of him in Houston. His rookie season he was sacked 76 times. OUCH!

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

SF Last Year

Not an ideal situation. But the job was his to win. I think we could win 2 out of 3 with him. But he is no Jeff H. Eli goes down we probably don’t make the playoffs. That said I don’t know any team that does in this league without their #1 QB.

by Madhops on Sep 1, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff H

was mobile. It brought a dimension to the team many opponents weren’t expecting.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Carr is better then Hostetler

plus we’d have a better offense around Carr. I wouldn’t want to go 16 games with him, but I don’t think he couldn’t win a game or two if he was in there.

Carr’s also mobile, something teams wouldn’t expect with Eli. So similar to Hos, if we had Carr in there teams would be forced to gameplan different which might be able to catch lightening in a bottle.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe

Herzlich is beat out by Sintim

JR and TC have to drop the ego

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Sep 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm Excited about Paysinger

Especially after reading his bio and learning that he used to be the waterboy….

by Madhops on Sep 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really??

And Herzlich was not beat out by Sintim. Sintim is not competing for a roster spot, dont be fooled, he is a lock, Herzlich plays all three spots so IDK why you think its one over the other.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ego

or is Sintim more talented? Judging by on the field, Sintim is more talented.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

experience

with no OTAs. A huge task for all rookies and UDFAs.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is it ego?

Herzlich isn’t back to his pre-cancer self. Nobody knows whether he will ever be.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Sep 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget reserve D-linemen.

I’m looking to see more of Trattou, Hall, Okpak-awhatever tonight.

by Matt V on Sep 1, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone know

what we should expect the starters playing time to be? If they play at all.

"Kick ass. pop champagne. And get some ho's"-Hideki Matsui

by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 1, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather they don't play

but they might play the offense for a series or two.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe a series

for the whole offense but for defense, i see certain untis like the CB’s pulling their starters but i think the safeties and D line get a lil more work.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see more Da Rel Scott

I think Ware will make the team but WHY??? On HB screen passes he will be scary. Let Ware go.

The greatest player ever!!!

by terellchewy on Sep 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I've got to agree with you on this...

    Scott’s 97.0 yards per carry obviously isn’t sustainable, but how can you get beat out of a job by a career backup (Ware) with only that one TD carry as your opportunity. I mean there really isn’t a heck of lot more Scott could have done with his one touch this preseason. I wouldn’t mid finding out if he could returns punts (in particular) or kickoffs. The Giants need to find a way to get his speed on the roster, and I think they need someone with more to offer than Ware to keep him off of it.

by Cranky50 on Sep 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wrong....Scott could have done more....

at the end of his TD run he could have spiked Quinn in celebration and really earned his way onto the roster instantly.

by Cranky50 on Sep 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

97ypc is absurd cranky

It’s only 48.5. He had another carry before that.

Hehehe but seriously, I would like to see him and AB 2 win roster spots.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-

by wilddre22 on Sep 1, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My apologies.....I missed the other carry (I'm getting old)....

Though I’m still willing to find a roster spot even if his ave. yards per carry is 48.5 (or half that). I’m not ready to say put him on the roster and guarantee him a spot, but I’m sure willing to say the audition should continue!

by Cranky50 on Sep 1, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Paysinger, Jones, Sintim and Herzlich will make it

Jacquain Williams goes to PS.

Dillard or Tracy could get on the team only if they play really well today

by mclaren_is_the_best on Sep 1, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Sintim has always been on the team

Paysinger has made the team as well already if you llisten to Boley.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope this is it as well

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

As crazy as it sounds...

I think Dodge has been very good. We’re starting to see the leg we’ve been hearing about since the pick. When the Giants signed Weatherford I thought it was the end for Dodge for sure! Now, not so much! Maybe the healthy competition is just what Dodge needed. Swift kick in the ass.

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I posted something to this effect

a few days ago about the competition bringing out a part of Dodge we had not seen…meaning he faced adversity last year, is being challenged this year and has responded with a mental toughness we WANT on our team.

I was villified.

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crowd can be rough over here at times...

You have to remember not all posters are going to be “logical”.

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

I can handle it but it is amazing the perspective changes from day to day.

I even think that the blogging matters with regard to the article we are blogging within.

We are all talking about seeing some of the young guys making an impact on our team for this year and more to come and the start of the season and all of a sudden the sky is blue, velvet ropes open and life is good again

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You also have to remember who you're....

in a thread with because that can make a major difference.

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but I really don’t pay too much attention to that though.
Might save me some trampled on ‘feelings’ but I do the same thing in my marriage.

Not a real sensitive and savvy guy

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only way to be brotha!!!

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Sash

I haven’t heard a whole lot about this guy lately. Since Rolle could possibly be playing the slot, it would be nice if Sash steps it up.

My Wife is a Patriot's fan...

by Giantssincesix on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Put a big hit on the Jet TE

late in the game the other night. With their overall weak depth in the secondary I think he’s a lock.

by Matt V on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

Love the kid

we will never win the superblow!!!!!
TMFS!!!!!

by gianthawk34 on Sep 1, 2011 6:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Doug Flutie's daughter

is a stone cold FOX.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd eat her Flutie Flakes

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of her......

forget it!!

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea....That's it lol

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If she was cut four times...

I don’t know if my pacemaker could take looking at the ones that made the cut in front of her. She brings a whole to meaning to the thought of “leftovers”.

by Cranky50 on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha she could be a first stringer

on the bengals cheer squad. All you need is a heartbeat and a pair of pom poms in cinci.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate

by TheWenz on Sep 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

It's OK we don't want anybody on the Giants bandwagon it's faster without all the dead weight!

by bleedblue12 on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 thoughts.

First, Why won’t Coughlin give Brown, Scott and Scott chances at RB. Ware keeps getting the vast majority of the carries, why? How do you know what you have with the others if you don’t give them the damn ball. I think Da’Rel should make the team over Ware, and Brown deserves a spot as well.

Second, I felt all along that Weatherford was brought in to push Dodge. Nothing like fear of losing your job to motivate you to do it better. The thought being, let’s bring this guy in to push him, and if he doesn’t answer the bell, we have this guy to fall back on as our punter. It seems to me that Dodge will be our punter, regardless of who out performs whom tonight. Unless Dodge makes one of his patented blunders tonight, I think he’s our punter.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup...without a doubt on Dodge

Weatherford is ‘who we thought [he] is’
Dodge has a very high ceiling and is performing as well as Weatherford now.

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dodge still seems to punt poorly

when he’s pressured.

I’d rather see Weatherford make the team.

Drives me crazy when he out punts the coverage

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Sep 1, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to be the biggest Dodge hater, If you saw my post after the Eagles Debacle last season, you would know this.

But I’ve realized that it was unfair to expect things from him. Did anyone expect Eli to be Pro bowl QB his rookie year, or lead us tot eh playoffs that season? No, and we gave him a pass for rookie mistakes he made. We should be able to do the same for Dodge. Yes, punter is a much easier position, but he was still a rookie last year, and there are growing pains to be expected with all rookies, regardless of position. So far this pre season, he hasn’t made those terrible mistakes he made last year, so I feel like he’s grown and learned from those mistakes, and he’s stopped obsessing over them and started just playing football. Still not his biggest fan, but I give him credit, he’s gotten past maybe the worst start to a career you’ll ever see, and has been much better for it. Which ever guy makes the team and becomes our punter, I will support and be happy with the decision.

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

to the

Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And further

if he did not have the upside and we as a team were not going to accept those failings for a rookie, we could have replaced him mid season last year.

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember a guy named Grant

Ware has had his chance. The two Scotts should be considered. What looked like break away speed, balance and elusiveness (albeit against third string) should not be discounted. The Eagles have a fast RB, that seems to work for them.

by Hank4910 on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Fast is fast!!!!!

third string or not

By the way he was running away from Jerrigan on that play and he had almost just fallen.

by SNORKIS on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Giants should keep Da'Rel

Charles Scott couldn’t even make the eagles last year — a team that had Eldra Buckley as their back up. He’s no good. As between Brown and Ware, Brown is unproven and hasn’t performed well in games. I’d keep the more experienced back if I was going to keep 4.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Sep 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

The eagles wouldn’t know what to do with a power running back if one brought reid a big ole pan of lasagna.

by Raptor22 on Sep 1, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

A guy who gets the ball 3 times a game

and can hit a homerun or strike out each time. Sort of like our version of Steve Balboni on the football field. Works for me.

by Madhops on Sep 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will we see Perrilloux tonight?

Is he in the plans? I like his arm strength and he did look comfortable, albeit in a raw sense. Practice squad maybe?

by SJBBfan on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they are trying to sneak Scott onto the PS

It feels like they are playing Ware but don’t really like him that much. Maybe they think they can deal him for somebody’s CB who would otherwise be cut.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll be looking for the Pats trying to steal signals

We do play them again this year.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Sep 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Sintim needs to go

Sintim should go he has been a wast from the get go,

by cranda on Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

sorta like that comment

especially after seeing last game the fact that u still say that is interesting.

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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on

what the meaning of the word “wast” is. It could be a good thing?

by Raptor22 on Sep 1, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really sure what a wast is

wast – definition of wast by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus …
www.thefreedictionary.com/wast – CachedA second person singular past tense of be.
 
That doesn’t seem to fit

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

by njsoldier1978 on Sep 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm with you Ed

The Giants will go with Weatherman (yeah I know, that one was easy ^^) and here is why: David Carr can’t play holder (or from what I know he doesn’t know and never practiced it).

“Hum… OK… How is that relevant?” you may ask (in fact I’m pretty sure you already know where I’m going with this).

Last year, Dodge was the holder but Rosenfels quickly replaced him because TC wanted the rookie to focus on his punting skills. This year, it seems that Dodge hasn’t practiced that aspect of the game while Weatherman did.

Correct me if I’m wrong but there is no encouraging signs that Rosenfels will be back 100% tonight. Plus Carr has been pretty good so I think that he’ll wind up being the QB2 (not because of his salary, TC said that wouldn’t be a factor). Since Carr and Dodge can’t hold but Weatherman can, the latter will probably stay in Blue this season.

Last year I would have said: “Who cares about punters?” but not this year ^^

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by Thiergow on Sep 1, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

"Correct me if I’m wrong "

Weatherman??

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That one


Weatherford → Weatherman

I know it was a crappy joke lol

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by Thiergow on Sep 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL i thought it was a joke

thanks for clearing that up LOL

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Sep 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN expert analysis do not believe this Giants team has a chance to go to the Super Bowl this year

Not one expert picked the Giants to represent the NFC in the playoffs. Not even as a wild card.

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I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Sep 1, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN 'experts'

love the chalk. Their experts usually go with the obvious.

by GMen56-11 on Sep 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't you been told yet

We are going for the 1st overall pick this year :)

It is true that our team hasn’t looked the strongest during those 3 preseason games but they are still PO material.

Preseason doesn’t mean a damn thing. In 5 weeks the same experts will be saying that the Giants have a shot at winning the NFC. And 4 weeks later they’ll probably change their mind again stating that the Giants had an easy schedule the first 6 weeks…

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by Thiergow on Sep 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hilarious that the Cowboys are in the wildcard

for three of the 4 choices

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by Willgfass on Sep 1, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not very surprising IMO

The Cowboys were a pretty good team last year when they got rid of Wade Phillips.

They have a strong offense and the D seems to have improved under Ryan although it is not completely ready yet.

Plus the last time the Boys had been discrete during the offseason they won the NFC.

I won’t rule them out.

The only thing I hope is a HUGE breakdown by the Eagles.

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by Thiergow on Sep 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the new rules

Dodge should do kickoffs. He’ll boom the kick out of the end zone every time.

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by GhostDini on Sep 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

So anyone here anything about Tynes?

At this rate, anyone think it’s possible Lloyd completely replaces him?

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Sep 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope I don't think Rhys will replace him

Plenty of K better than Rhys will get cut on Saturday so the Giants could just pick one if Tynes is not yet ready to return.

Anyway, the K won’t matter if the OL isn’t able to prevent the opponents to block the kick…

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by Thiergow on Sep 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Side note.

What do you guys think, just traded Chris Johnson and Matt Cassel for Jamaal Charles and Eli.
I have Turner and Ryan Mathews as my other RBs, and Schaub is my starting QB.

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SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully

Eli Manning will play better than last week and Wisenhunt will give more carries to Charles. If these things happen, it will end up being a nice trade.

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by Thiergow on Sep 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how I feel.

Eli puts up better fantasy numbers than Cassel without a doubt, and teams will be focusing on stopping Johnson, whereas Charles didn’t even get the majority of the carries last year, as he will this year, and he put up the season he had.

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Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad, Schaub is my starter too

was not happy that I got him but in the later rounds I picked up Kevin Kolb so I feel they both can have huge weeks. I also got the Giant Defense…. but I was basiclly laughed out of the room for picking them up. Big Blue will prove them wrong.

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

incredible trade

Cassel blows and CJ will probably tone it down a bit with his new money. Eli will still have turnovers, but not 25. Plus he’s consistent and will get you 3700yds and over 27TDs. Also Jamaal Charles is still hungry and hopes to be paid like CJ.

You ripped off whoever you traded with.

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by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Bad

I think you get the better end of the deal, but if Schaub is your starter I don’t think there is a reason to get Eli, unless you think Schaub will go down for a couple of games (it is his MO).

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by Giantssincesix on Sep 1, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a better backup to have then Cassel.

And I can play Match ups with him, wouldn’t try that with Cassel. Like in week 4 when Schaub faces the Steelers D, and Eli faces Cardinals. I’ll be playing Eli.

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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cassel does blow it big time,Ham and Cheese..Eli is an upgrade.

I’ve been a Charles guy since he was LJ’s backup and used him when LJ was out for a few games..had him for his breakout 1/2 a season as well.I don’t think he will ever get 300 carries,but he will get a few more than last year so if your league rewards bonus points for 100 yd games..he should have more than last year as he was only a few carries away in a few games last year.
However,he got you with the CJ vs. JC unless CJ gets hurt.
Charles has a much tougher sched. this year and still doesn’t get goaline looks very often.

Opposing passers will be made miserable,seasons ruined
there may be no excuses given,only Mouts Smashed

Which LB's make the cut?
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by Shaunthegiant on Sep 1, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see him getting cut

but how is herzlich in trouble? he can AT LEAST contribute on special teams on a level better than last years guys could have

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by nyg94 on Sep 1, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Dodge vs. Weatherford

I love this site and all the writers on here, but I don’t really agree with the whole Dodge vs. Weatherford writer’s competition thing. I feel like you MIGHT be pulling for Weatherford simply to beat out Pat and be correct as to who wins while putting away the facts that it’s Dodge’s job to lose. He has (slightly) outperformed Steve in the preseason and I always sense a bit of cynicism when you write about Dodge. I’m big on him and believe that just as in my High School and College playing days, if the younger player is of equal ability, he ALWAYS gets the job. I think it says a lot how Dodge stepped his game up with real pressure on his career this offseason and contrary to what he showed last season (memory of him lying face down on that fateful day at the Meadowlands seared into my memory) he’s showed real mental toughness, which in my mind was the only thing holding him back

by TheKnowledgeableGMan on Sep 1, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

go with Dodge.. this year is a wash anyways.. ;)

by dank7 on Sep 1, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

depends on how thick the skin on his hands are

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by Rorschach44 on Sep 1, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

apologize for that one

Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
SERENITY NOW!!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 1, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

can anybody give me a streaming address for the game

by Shakoor96 on Sep 1, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

firstrowsports.eu

or.net

Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
SERENITY NOW!!!!

by nywins42 on Sep 1, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

google firstrowsports

Starters are looking like they will not play btw. Good news.

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by Livestrong77nyy on Sep 1, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kickoff in 10 minutes

Enjoy the game everybody.

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Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

D Scott

man is a home run hitter

by Cruz Control on Sep 1, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

TC

do we really need to see 3 quarters of Carr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Cruz Control on Sep 1, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

J Will

no way he makes the practice squad now…….tough decisions to make

by Cruz Control on Sep 1, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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