New York Giants Notes: Preseason Finale Edition
by Ed Valentine on Sep 1, 2011 7:31 AM EDT
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PrintGood morning, New York Giants fans! We will have lots of goodies for you today -- including a surprise exclusive interview that will post a little later this morning -- but let's start your day with a handful of notes this morning.
Giants Gameday: New England Patriots host Giants in final preseason game | NJ.com
The most interesting thing I found in the Star-Ledger preview of Thursday night's preseason finale against New England was the following quote from third-year linebacker Clint Sintim. In case you did not notice, by the way, Sintim played very well Monday against the New York Jets.
"I think the biggest thing I can do is earn their trust. I’ve said this before. I have the utmost confidence in myself. And I think what hinders me is the trust level between them and me. And I think the more I can earn their trust as a player, the more I can earn playing time. The fumble was just one of those plays when I saw the ball, and it was an opportunity for me to make a play and I made it."
Giants' Jerrel Jernigan remains questionable as punt returner | NJ.com
Jernigan has another chance to prove himself tonight against Patriots
Scout.com: Starters To Be Scarce Come Thursday
Because of the proximity to Monday's Giants-Jets game, Thursday's preseason finale in New England may feature no Giants starters. Can't blame Tom Coughlin if he decides to keep everybody on the bench.
The Patriots get one last chance tune up against the New York Giants Thursday night | masslive.com
Quarterback Tom Brady of the New England Patriots does not want to sit and watch Thursday's game.
"I hope to go out there and play, and play as much as they’ll let me," quarterback Tom Brady said on WEEI this week. "I want to get out there and for us to really start stringing some good plays together, good drives together before the games do start counting. So, if it’s up to me, I’m playing a lot."
Cold, Hard Football Facts offers a defense of Giants' quarterback Eli Manning that really puts in perspective why Giants' fans should forever appreciate Eli -- no matter what happens the rest of his career.
Now, we agree Manning will never match up to Brady statistically or otherwise. But even if Manning retired today, he should go down as a singular figure in the annals of American sports.
He was a principal player in not one but two of the seminal moments in NFL history – a pair of jaw-dropping events that took place in the space of a single February evening and that quite likely will never be match or surpassed for as long as they play pro football.
The fact that these two events came at the expense of Tom Brady and the Patriots means that Manning never has to hang his head in shame when talk turns to how the two stack up.
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thats exactly what he should of said
by S OzZy825 on Sep 1, 2011 7:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can someone explain the diff in mechanics between KR and PR?
Why can a player do one and not the other? What is the diff in mechanics and requirements?
Tnx in advance.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
No real reason they can't
At least in terms of catching the ball, though the spin is different on a punt versus one that comes off the kicking tee.
The return aspects are completely different, though.
Kick return requires, first and foremost, straight line speed. Catch the ball, get upfield and get to the hole before the defense does. Vision and ability to make guys miss is also important, but less so than speed and the ability to make a decisive move to get to the point of attack before the coverage does.
Punt return requires, first and foremost, courage and the ability to catch a ball in heavy traffic and hold onto it while taking a hit. In terms of breaking a return, speed is good, but less important than quick feet and vision, because what you really have to do is make the first guy miss.
or, with regards to the Giants special teams
make the first 10 guys miss…
by Raptor22 on Sep 1, 2011 8:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
See Ed, not to rub it in,
but I kinda felt they were gonna give JJ his shot at returner. You can’t just strip him of a responsibility after one bad game, shows a lack of faith on the coaching staffs part.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
right but tonights game is still the preseason and that's why he'll be back there - he should be.
Coughlin has stated that he is thinking about others taking that responsibility during the season (Ross comes to mind).
Plus, everyone seems to be missing that it has been reported that JJ has been having troubles catching the ball throughout camp. So, it’s not just one bad game.
Let’s see how he reacts tonight but I’m betting he won’t be returning punts vs the Redskins on opening day. He’ll be inactive.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
SERENITY NOW!!!!
Quite possible.
I was just making the case against him being completely removed from returning duties all together. Glad to see they didn’t give up on him already like some people on here were suggesting they do.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
cool
I suggested it but now they I’m not fuming mad I’ve changed my opinion.
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
SERENITY NOW!!!!
haha
cooler heads prevail.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
biggest difference
Is that on a punt return, the coverage team is much closer as you’re making the catch. The return man has to be prepared to make somebody miss the instant he secures the ball, whereas the kickoff returner has 20 yards of defender free space in front of him. So punt returns require a much higher level of concentration.
I'd say you could call it nerves
On both returns or catching a pop fly in baseball, you have to look the ball into your hands, on the kickoff return you can do that without fear of decapitation so it should be easier.
On the punt return you have to have the nerve to catch it knowing that the coverage might get there with ball and you get absolutely blasted and sometimes the coverage screws the pooch and flattens you before the ball gets there.
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
And a lotta HEART!
Jernigan probably is not used to the big boys flying down field at him. Could be a big issue.
by oldschoolblue64 on Sep 1, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Great Question
I always wondered the difference between KR and PR myself.
"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford
My prediction for tonight's game against N.E.:
Giants 23 – Patriots 17.
Wait, what am I saying? The Patriots are only going to score 17 points?! Hahaha… Okay.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
lol
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
A rookie punt returner on a Coughlin coached team
Can’t say I expected to ever see that, but at this point it seems almost likely. I hope he figures it out… I highly doubt they have anybody better to do it.
your mom goes to college
There you go
loss of training camp time really hurts a player like Jernigan, and all rookies for that matter!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
Interesting...
it makes sense that they’d be holding him back because of the knee, it just seems strange that I haven’t heard anything about him returning kicks or punts (maybe I missed something).
I’m so glad the preseason is going to be over…
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 1, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I hope to see...
Hynoski and Ballard get some playing time as a starters. We really need to give these two guys a chance to play and prove themselves. Perhaps we get to see both Mr. Jones and The Herz get some plays on defense AND Clock mananagement.
Sintim
Has “journeyman” player written all over him.
That would be a strange tattoo
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
nice
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Sep 1, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he's a Clapton fan
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Sintim.
Nuff said.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Sep 1, 2011 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Really hope Sintim gets on the field more this year
seems like he’s finally healthy and was flying all over the place on Monday. If/when Kiwi gets hurt again there’s no old fart here to block Sintim’s path to starting too, which is good.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I hope no starters play
I just wanna watch rookies and guys trying to make this team
One series
will probably be all you see of them.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
i'd prefer none tbh
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Glad to see all my battling for SIntim starting to pay off
He is a beast, and he hit it on the head, the trust btw him and the coaches need to grow but he is a gamer not a practice monster. If they let him play he will show up, even with Mathias on the field, If and when Sintim plays well this game he will earn time on the field even with Kiwi out there.
Perry will find a way, I think we see Kiwi @ end alot more in an attempt to get sintim out there, he might even see some 3rd down plays. Its amazing that they dont let the gut who led the NCAA in sacks from LB’s in his career when he came out get on the field to rush the passer, at least once and a while. Sometimes this coaching staff outhinks its self.
GO SINTIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOFF TOO……. Cant wait for that combo to take the field together.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I still didn't see Sintim do enough to get me excited vs. the Jets...
The fumble recovery was largely due to a teammate (Anvil I believe) pushing the ball away from a Jet player and to Sintim. He also made a tackle or two stopped, waiting for the ballcarrier to get to him, rather than attacking, thus giving up extra yardage. I hope he makes it, but his “big game” vs. the Jets wasn’t as big, in my view, as what many are thinking and he still needs to step it up.
Agreed.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I bet Ed landed Bomar for an interview
Team Okpokowuruk
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines."
He grilled him
about drunk driving around in his homemade monster truck, I bet.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Sep 1, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd say you're probably not going to miss anything
but you’re going to Calgary…..
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
canadian beer >
at least drinking your self to oblivion is the norm w/ my northern family members
TeamJPP
at least if its Unibroue
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hynoski is overhyped
He can’t lead block for sure and they haven’t even attempted to throw his way or let him run the ball. I thought we were getting an upgrade we signed him. We need a good lead blocker and Eli needs all the targets he can find.
"Hello...you play to win the game."
Hynoski
Can do a lot of things. He sometimes gets too high, a bad habit he is fully aware of and is working to correct. I am optimistic that he will turn out to be a good player for the Giants.
He sometimes gets too high
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
SERENITY NOW!!!!
by nywins42 on Sep 1, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
that’s what I thought of when Ed said that. Gotta clarify Ed, hahaha.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha!!
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
With regards to that Sintim quote
Paging GhostDini…..paging Rorschach44….
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Sep 1, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions
1. The article link supposedly about a cold hard look at Eli now links to to something else, something much much more interesting.
2. In his last full season, Hixon was second in the league on punt returns (9+ yds per) and pretty much average on kick off returns (26+ yds per, as I recall).
by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 1, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions
It's linked in my fanshot
the one that is rec’d
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I want to see
Hynoski play with the first team offense
A TD by the first team offense
JPP get to Brady
Tuck on the bench
More of what I saw from LJ on Monday night
AB on the bench
Da’Rell Scott and Andre Brown…no, sorry I don’t want to see Ware
First team secondary stop Brady twice and then hit the bench
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Well points
2, 3, and 8 won’t happen because Brady won’t play, and the first team offense probably won’t see the field.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Sep 1, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
sounds about right.
Except you know we’re gonna get heavy dose of Ware, ugh. And the starting O might not play more than one series, so a TD might be a bit of a stretch.
Team Cheese:
Mario Manningham
Mark Herzlich
Greg Jones
Devin Thomas
Ramses Barden
Jason Pierre-Paul
Travis Beckum
Da'Rel Scott
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Sep 1, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
It's like every thread, you're trying to defend Eli.
But anyway, I wonder how many snaps, if any, our 1s will be playing today. I know Coughlin loves Cruz, because he discovered him, and what not… but we really need to have someone more dependable like Hixon playing the slot.
That Cold, Hard Football Facts links to an article on indystar.com about Anthony Gonzalez
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
what game did Ernie Pallidino watch?
And the ground game that stumbled against the Jets won’t get that needed boost because of a few carries early.
Another example of clueless media. How do they keep their jobs? So many are so terrible.
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