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New York Giants Training Camp: Five Things To Feel Good About

We all know that most of the stories emanating from New York Giants training camp thus far have been negative. The Osi Umenyiora melodrama; The loss of Kevin Boss; Plaxico Burress going to the New York Jets; Prince Amukamara holding out, then breaking his foot. Great media fodder, but maybe not great stuff for the Giants as a football team.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin is remaining upbeat, though. "We’ve overcome all this stuff. We’ll do it again," he said.

Here are five things from training camp that you should feel really good about if your are a Giants fan.

1. The work of the rookies -- Taking Amukamara out of the equation, several of the Giants' 2011 draft choices have been surprisingly good thus far considering the lack of an offseason program. Sixth-round pick Tyler Sash has shown better instincts down the field in coverage that many thought he had, and earned some first-team reps on Sunday. Defensive tackle Marvin Austin has impressed the coaching staff. Third-round pick Jerrel Jernigan has flashed his speed, and has been catching everything. Seventh-round pick Da'Rel Scott has also had some nice moments. Throw in the work of undrafted free agent fullback Henry Hynoski, who might play more than any of the drafted players initially, and there are lots of good signs thus far.

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2. Mathias Kiwanuka -- Coming off a serious neck injury, Kiwanuka has looked fast, he's looked healthy, he has looked unafraid of contact despite last season's scare, and he has looked and sounded happy to move around and line up wherever Perry Fewell decides to put him.

3. The running back situation -- The Giants got Ahmad Bradshaw to return at their price. Brandon Jacobs looks healthy and sounds happy, a big change from a season ago. It goes deeper than that, however. Andre Brown, the 2009 draft pick who tore his Achilles Tendon during his first training camp and was cut last season, has returned and seems to look more and more explosive the more work he gets. Charles and Da'Rel Scott have each had good moments, Charles with some shifty feet and Da'Rel with his explosive speed. The work by the rookie Hynoski at fullback has already been mentioned. Right now I would venture a guess that D.J. Ware has serious competition to make this team.

4. Jason Pierre-Paul -- Last year's No. 1 pick is drawing raves from the coaching staff for his improvement from a season ago. He is starting at right end and will remain there for the foreseeable future with the Umenyiora situation dragging on. "This kid is talented. He's a very unique player. I've been around the league 12 years and I have not coached one that he compares to," said defensive line coach Robert Nunn. "He's kind of his own guy - how strong he is and how talented and how much range he has."

The kid many BBV'ers did not want to see the Giants draft might just be en route to becoming the team's next defensive star.

5. Special Teams -- Steve Weatherford has been signed to be the punter. If you believe Matt Dodge has a legitimate chance to win the punting job you are kidding yourself. The presence of Hixon and Jernigan should dramatically improve the return game. Coverage should be better with a more reliable punter, the new rules on kickoffs moving them up five yards and lots of athletic, young players brought in this season with coverage units in mind.

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Ahhh...the sun still shines.

Looking forward to see these guys in the games.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Aug 8, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Ed

Being a Giants and Mets fan it was not a fun weekend sportswise.

I needed something like this. (backs away from ledge – lol)

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

its been a rough week for the mets

'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 8, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, not all 25 years, we had that one game that one day we all felt good about

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

was that the game

when Estes threw the ball behind Clemens?

Oh wait! Even that was a disappointment.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

well hold on, Estes did homer in that game.

But no, that wasn’t the day, ha ha.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 8, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

mets??

mets fans do not belong in the GMEN camp run on over to the jets mets mutts ……camp

by trinity giant on Aug 8, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that sounded intelligent , Know wonder you don't say much.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would put

Burress going to the Jets in the positive news category too.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 8, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I wanted Plax back

but I wouldn’t categorize him going to the Jets as a negative. Let’s see what he can do before we judge.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think,

we all needed this post thanks Ed

Can we all collectively bargain not to be douche bags ?

by colinlovestheknicks on Aug 8, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

With All due respect, Ed,

What have you been smoking?

Things to feel good about? With the Giants? Haven’t you been reading this forum?

When we lose a player, no one ever steps up to take his place.

When Shockey got hurt, we lost every game after.

When Derrick Ward got hurt, we had no running game.

When Strahan retired, we haven’t had a sack since.

With Osi on the bike, we’ll never cause another turnover.

With Plax to the Jets, we’ll never score another red zone touchdown.

With Nnamdi to the Eagles, Eli will never complete a pass again.

It’s hopeless. Hopeless, I say. Hopeless.

by Tom Werner on Aug 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

This looked like a poem at first. You should have made a rhyme or something .. I’m not concered.. I will be once the season starts. I say our defense carries this team to the play offs. I don’t think the offense will be as good as last yr ( turnovers aside the offense was still decent)

by wrxsti28 on Aug 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s like a Giants haiku almost.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

shades of the late frankiec

In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.

"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon

by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 8, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen him around here every once in a while

despite him being smitten by the banhammer at bsb; although all his posts are grainy and blurry like bigfoot footage.

by Town on Aug 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

MOB, do you know what he does now? He leaves long-winded rambling rants on my Facebook wall. Apparently, his voice must be heard.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

lemme guess...

something to do with the merits of shot-blocking as the most important stat when discussing d-men?

oh and of course, jared boll?

In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.

"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon

by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 8, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god.

FDN!! FDN!!

good times..

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, he used the poetic device of repetition,

so it qualifies. I like the switching of “when” to “with”.

by nygmen123 on Aug 8, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea that was especially moving for me

It was an aesthetic transformation of time, reminding the reader where he/she has been and what the future may hold ‘through the looking glass’ (which may or may not be half empty, meh heh hee…

eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson

by pataroons on Aug 8, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a poet and didn't know it

I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.

by tommy d. on Aug 8, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

Whatever I’ve been smoking I need some of what you have been smoking. LOL!

by Ed Valentine on Aug 8, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

The NY press loves to highlight bad news

which causes some fans to run with it like its the end of the world.
Thanks for actually showing the good in this team. Maybe those who already proclaimed the season over will begin to crawl back.

'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

"Sixth-round pick Tyler Sash has shown better instincts down the field in coverage that many thought he had"

I was not one of those people, if there was anything that made him better than most college DB’s coming out this year, it is his instincts……he had more picks in his career that Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara combined……him becoming an impact player has always been expected by me.

I dont understand why he was available in the 6th round to be honest but hey we got him.

He is kind on the reason im not sweating the Prince injury too much, we have Safeties that can come down and cover, so him being able to slide in at FS and SS will be very very valuable while Prince is out.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

by Blue Gates on Aug 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

too many teams are still seduced by

bench reps, 40 times, highlight reels, and big performances on nationally televised games. Sash is a FOOTBALL PLAYER who is going to have a long, productive NFL career. A potential gem.

by Town on Aug 8, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vernon Gholston

I was looking at the 2008 draft. McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones, Rashard Mendenhall were all drafted before Chris Johnson.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right, Town

If they had sense its no way he makes it out of the third round, there are some DB’s that were drafted in the second round that couldnt hold a torch to him…………….how did houston not draft him or Prince, they should have both been Texans if your using common sense but glad they are Giants.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

by Blue Gates on Aug 8, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought

that’s where Prince would wind up, with the Texans. As for Sash, I knew he had great instincts and would contribute on ST’s immediately. Ferentz did coach in the NFL as an assistant for awhile, and he was well coached at Iowa.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Aug 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is

things like size, speed, athleticisim can not be taught so coaches go bananas over guys that impress physically. Coaches believe they can teach these athletes the game and that they will develop football instincts so they take risks on the athletes and pass on the football players. You need to find a balance to succeed. JPP is an athlete who is learning the game and he just might be a monster. Steve Smith is undersized and does not have blazing speed but is very smart and has great insticts and he’s one of our best offensive players but he’ll never be a Larry Fitzgerald.

by Landeta on Aug 8, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's to hoping Jake Ballard

is one of those “feel good” stories too

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 8, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Certainly has the opportunity now

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Austin

in that pic, doing his best Matt Foley

We don't play for the wild card around here kid

by Jaybat on Aug 8, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Like this...

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."

by jcalafiore on Aug 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Austin on that pic...

To use my fave line and to all o-lines in the league " Here comes that man again momma"

by Bavaro 89 on Aug 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

good post

Since I’ve been here on bv I’ve pretty kept a possitive vibe…I mean really I’m a fan going back to Perkins…so I’ve seen some bad teams & some very good 1’s…I say that to say this , this team has been a good team for many seasons…we don’t rebuild we just fortify…last year I said 12-4 ….I’m certain we will reach that this year…we are better than what many think we are !

true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team

by Mr.Williams on Aug 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

wasn't Steve Weatherford available last season?

why didn’t the Giants sign him last season during the season? Dodge was struggling. IMO it cost the Giants a playoff spot. It wasn’t only the infamous DJax return but a cumulative effect on the punt team the entire season.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

nope he was busy punting 42 balls inside the 20 and 20 inside 10 for the Jets.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breath of Fresh Air

Ed, your positive perspective this morning is a much needed breather from the daily negative news. Not that there isn’t negative news. There is plenty of it. But it helps to point out the good things happening. Thanks for reporting on both perspectives.

by jfostersbnation on Aug 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Genius : SI guy Matt Gagne called it

Gmen wont make the playoff. I guess we should bag the season. Who IS this guy?

by Bavaro 89 on Aug 8, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I love the photo of Marvin Austin

Makes me think of a run away truck rolling downhill.

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Aug 8, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

with a name like

Tyler Sash how can he not be a football star. He’s got a football name.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I think two of our late rounders will contribute this season

Sash and Jones honestly shouldn’t have been on the board when we selected them, i Think they will both contribute. I know the Prince injury sucks, but we got another first round talent in Austin in the second, I think you’ll see Jernigan play a lot as well in different roles, than you add guys like Hynoski and Herzlich who will make the team because if he doesn’t someone will scoop him up, this group of rookies has real chance of making some major contributions much like the class of 07’ did.

Can we all collectively bargain not to be douche bags ?

by colinlovestheknicks on Aug 8, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

If they all make the team

And I’m assuming that they all will, I think you just put names to the reason our pathetic coverage and return teams will be much improved this year. It was my understanding that Prince is also a terrific special teams player as well, which will get him on the field when he gets back.

And as we all know, poor special teams play cost this team 1-3 games last year.

by JTMacc on Aug 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Media Hype

Anyone who really pays attention knows that the media is all about the HYPE…most of it negative towards that Giants…even our local media dogs us out! Have no fear…at this point in the season we are all undefeated!!!! Everybody just chill!!! The rookies are looking good I’m hoping that Scott makes the team. Living in the MD area for a while now and got a chance to see him play with the Terps… the kid can run! and he is quick as lightning.

by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

wait a tic...

so youre saying theres a chance we wont go 0-16 this year?

by Plaxico Burress on Aug 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah...don't forget...

2 – 6 in the division this year.

In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.

"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon

by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha...you missed the joke we had going last week.
maybe tc should hire all choirboys to play and dump the ones who really drive the bus..when we go 2 and 6 in the division maybe tc will finally get the axe he likes to weild

~some genius on facebook

In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.

"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon

by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I still laugh at 2-6

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed. You forgot number 6.

We still have Eli as our Qb. He always gives us a chance to win on Sunday.

by TampaGiant on Aug 8, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

+100000000000000

as long as Eli is our QB this team will be in playoff contention.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since 2006

Eli has thrown 87 INTs. In the same time frame Drew Brees has thrown 79. Eli doesn’t have the luxury of playing 8 home games indoors, a road game indoors in Atlanta and perfect conditions in Tampa.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

BLAM.

Simple, factual, but oh… it doesn’t follow the collective narrative so it must not be true.

I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.

by tommy d. on Aug 8, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

That’s an amazing stat, but the naysayers will never put Eli and Brees in the same catagory. Great stat especially considering the indoor conditions of the dome and Drew’s “accuracy”.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Aug 8, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about this stat

Since 2006 in Away Games
Eli 26-14
Brees 25-14

Again Brees plays at least 9 games each season indoors.

Against divisional opponents Brees is 4-1 vs Bucs, 3-1 vs Panthers and 3-2 vs Falcons which leaves him 16-10 in non-divisional road games.

Brees played a December game in the old Giants stadium. we went 13-32 132 yards. QB rating 63.5. Let’s see Brees play a full season outdoors in non-balmy conditions.

Brees also played in 2 December games @ Chicago. In 2007 he went 35-60 58.3% QB rating of 75.7. In 2008 he was 24-43 55.8% QB rating 67.2. In each game Brees threw 2 INTs.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wonder if the new QB RATING takes that into account.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed that special.

How was is and does it make more sense than the current, useless rating?

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Aug 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah ESPN did it.

it takes every thing from drops to throwaways into account.

Don’t pass out but Eli was ranked 7th overall.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

does it account for playing conditions. It’s much more difficult playing in the north in November and December than playing indoors. That’s another factor that makes Brady special.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was wondering the same .

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about victor cruz? How does he look so far? I heard he been very good not seen a report yet?

by Giantstep on Aug 8, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I recall he had two drops last week

One long, one over the middle. Have not heard much else.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz

Good days, bad days. Let’s see when the games start if he can take the No. 3 job away from Hixon.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where is Hagan?

Ed, it would be good to review/comment on the position moves up and down, at least for those really in contention, when we get close to game time.

I know there are some camp bodies that have no chance, don’t need that.

Tnx.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct

Hagan was signed by the Oakland Raiders on August 6, 2011…from Wikipedia.

Sorry to hear this, thought he would be helpful. Hope it works out for him.

Not worried though, we have so many good receivers competing.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 8, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw a Cruz interview today

He kept saying that when he has a drop he is still thinking about it 3 plays later. That is a very very bad habit. He was great though, saying modestly that his preseason TD’s last year were all the same play, and that what he really needs is to be able to read defenses better. and not just ‘get lucky’ more or less. Says he actually likes playing the slot and going over the middle.
Now if he can drop one and then just forget about it…….and keep his mind on the next play….

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 8, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he better like playing the slot

that’s the only chance he has of playing outside of the preseason.

"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."

by jcalafiore on Aug 8, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

Barden ( if he ever gets off the bike) still has a good chance to be the third receiver.
 I wonder if Jernigan sees the field much this year, other than ST? He sounds like the kind of player that will need to be given a chance early on with his speed.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Aug 8, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like

to see a lot of Jerrigan in the preseason returning punts & kicks. This team has a definitive need for a KR. If Hixon can stay healthy, it’s possible he can return punts again.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Aug 8, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Serby

Along with a few other writers are saying how good Goff has been. Serby predicted a “monster” season from Goff.
So Ed, how has he looked to you?

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Aug 8, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

with a year under his best

as a FT starter Goff will have a solid season. I’m more concerned with our OLBs.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

as a linebacker.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Aug 8, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Keep Kiwi on the line.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

He was off to a helluava start last year. 4 sacks in 3 games. Forger the pro bowl, that was a hall of fame pace.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Aug 8, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of that was due to playing LB

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!

by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

You can put him on the line or have him at linebacker. Last year, as Troy said, he killed QBs coming on a blitz as a LB. I don’t know why that would be a concern. Keep him on the line ? Why ?

by KumaBlue42 on Aug 8, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciate this post Ed

Hasn’t been a very good time every since the Bradshaw signing, this was greatly needed. now if only we could get all those “fans” on facebook, ESPN, etc. to read this.

I want to win. It's not about money and everything else. I want to be able to get out and win games because at the end of the day you could be rich as you want to be and not win any games. That doesn't help you out. You'll just be an unsuccessful former player with a lot of money." - Brandon Jacobs

by sejo28 on Aug 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

How's Joaeph looking?

I was extremely excited when we picked up the big guy last year

by nwkiddnj on Aug 8, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I have this good feeling

Anvil and Austin will be good which will make our DL very good.

Anvil, Austin, Tuck and JPP (Osi will be the water boy I hear).

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 8, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Water boy he can’t be his knee hurts too much. He be riding his little bike.

by Giantstep on Aug 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah...

heard they brough in a stationary tricycle special just for Osi.

In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.

"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon

by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bomar blotto behind bars

I guess being 4th string in Minnesota leaves you some free time to party. I think the signing of Hynoski may have led to a depression also, as the Giants had been talking to him about playing fullback. Or was it the signing of Weatherford?

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Latest word
Giants free-agent WR Steve Smith to visit the team early this week:

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 8, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: Five things to feel good about.

Thank you. Some Giant fans only see the negativity. I was saying the other day that losing Plax wasn’t a thing because we have good young wide recivers & Eli wasn’t that enthused about having him back. Losing Boss hurts a little but lets not forget he had quite a few big drops as a Giant. The Osi saga doesn’t appear to be affecting the team & he isn’t getting alot of fan support. Tha defense will be better with Kiawanuka back, Phillips one year healthier & the young kids bringing in more energy. Offensively Eli has Hixon back, a happy Jacobs & a much younger offensive line that will only get better with more work together. I think the real good thing that jumps out is the hiring of Larry Izzo as a special teams coach. He was a monster special teams player & will improve this very important part of the game. One thing to remember about last year had we had half of the turnovers that we committed we would have had 11 or 12 wins. So if the Giants cut down on the turnovers we should be right in the playoff hunt again.

by BIG BLUE 70 on Aug 8, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Another positive:

According to Coughlin:

RB Andre Brown looks faster, more explosive than when drafted.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Would’t it be ironic if he turns out to be a useful player for us. I hope he makes it!

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Aug 8, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before getting hurt

Brown looked good in preseason games.

Jets 5 carries 26 yards
Steelers 13 – 61
Ravens 3 – 8

21 carries 95 yards

It wouldn’t surprise me if he makes the team.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he can get

D.J. Ware out of town (after 5 years), I’d be all in.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Aug 8, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being healthy

and being humbled can give you a few MPH.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 8, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few notes

Sash comes from a very well-coached program in Iowa. Kirk Ferentz doesn’t want to leave Iowa but if he coached at a big SEC school, he’d likely dominate. The guy is just a really good coach. His players come to the NFL and have good football smarts. I see Sash as Pierce of the secondary.

I was really high on Andre Brown so I was sorely disappointed when he didn’t work out last year. I was hoping that Ware could show something this year but I’d rather have Brown be that 3rd-down back, if possible.

What does Kiwi’s role at LB mean for Sintim? Nobody would deny that Kiwi really plays well in the joker role but I’d still like to see Sintim get some snaps.

I don’t think Jernigan will do much this year. He came from a spread offense that didn’t require a lot of thinking. He’s going to need time to get adjusted to Gilbride’s complicated offense. If Barden can get on the field, I still like him as the slot WR.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont know man..
If Barden can get on the field, I still like him as the slot WR.

I dont see that ending well for ones long lanky body. Especially with the occasional Eli floater.

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by Troy O on Aug 8, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tolly

Dave Tollefson looks bigger and faster supposivly also. So that gives us even more depth too. I am not worried about OSi but cant past it up to poke fun. As for Plax we never really had him. Jets will know he is a raw talented player for sure. Just doesn’t mean he doesn’t carry huge luggage. To me it still there just by his interviews after his prison terms. he fit in with Ryan miss fits. Make no mistake Sanchez is no ELI and can’t hit his mark and is shown with his 55% passes caught last year. Plax can only do so much for you. Good Luck lol.

by Giantstep on Aug 8, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Plax is still Plax

Tweeked his ankle and couldn’t practice. We’ve seen this before. He should have been doing some serious ankle excersises while he was in the clink.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Aug 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Aug 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven t heard much about Herzlich in some time. Might be a good thing or not.

by Giantstep on Aug 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The Young Guns

I think a more than usual group of the young guys are going to get snaps this year. JPP may possibly have a breakout year Linval is going to see a large portion of action on Defense. Hynoski blocking, Herzlich at LB and ST Goff the team has gotten younger and hopefully hungrier to prove the Giants are contenders. Sure we’ve had some bad breaks we always seem to but the great thing about the Giants is that they persevere.

by Kirt Morose on Aug 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree w/ everything

This team looks REAL good.

It’s easy to get caught up with your own team’s flaws when you are invested so heavily in that team. But every team is sorting things out, and has their own weaknesses.

Example: Your girlfriend turns out to be a complete psycho, so you finally leave and ask out that perfect beauty from the Pharmacy. On the third date you find a severed head in her freezer. However, it’s not a severed head, fellow Giants fans. It’s a lack of depth at Linebacker.

eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson

by pataroons on Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Severed heads, linebackers.

yeah I totally get that connection pat. :)

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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha

as soon as I hit post I was like, “Wait, I’m pretty sure that made zero sense…”
Whatever, at the time I thought it, it made perfect sense.

eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson

by pataroons on Aug 9, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lack of depth at LB??

ok

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

by Blue Gates on Aug 8, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Osi saw JPP in his rear view?

It’s hard to make sense of what Osi’s doing, but maybe he feels desperate because he foresaw JPP coming up on him. Maybe he really wants to get traded now because he’s afraid he’ll lose his starting position. Perhaps he thinks it’s now or never for the big payoff because his stats will go way down if he’s not starting. Of course, he’s only helping JPP with his behavior.

by bgoggin on Aug 8, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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