How Will Kevin Boss's Defection To Oakland Impact The Giants' Offense?
With Kevin Boss taking Al Davis's money and running to the Oakland Raiders, how does that impact the New York Giants offense? My guess is that what we have seen the past couple of evenings during training camp practice sessions is very instructive.
What we have seen a lot of, first and foremost is third-year man Travis Beckum. Because we have seen a lot of Beckum, we have seen some subtle changes to the offense. That is a trend that is likely to continue unless the Giants choose to bring in another traditional tight end.
Earlier in the week Giants coach Tom Coughlin referred to Beckum's "special skill set" and said that for the Wisconsin grad to play full time the Giants would need to "change some things in the run game."
What the Giants have showcased a lot during the time I have been here are formations with Beckum split a few yards off the line of scrimmage, with Pascoe or another tight end lined up either inside or in the backfield. Occasionally we have seen undrafted rookie free agent Henry Hynoski lined up as a pure fullback. In the end, we might even see the use of an extra lineman at tight end, as we often saw last season. We have seen Beckum split wide at times, and lined up as part of a tight "trips" formation bunched with a pair of other receivers.
So, if the Giants ultimately decide to go with Beckum on more of a full-time basis you will see less in the way of traditional sets with him, and much more maneuverability. Beckum may even emerge as an option in the slot, where the Giants are looking for someone to step into the Steve Smith role.
Coughlin wants more consistency from Beckum. "He makes a great play and then a not so good play," Coughlin said.
There is little on the free-agent market right now in terms of quality tight ends. There has been media speculation in recent days about the possibility of the Giants trading for Seattle's John Carlson. He was displaced in Seattle by the signing of Zach Miller, which ultimately left the opening in Oakland that Boss took. Carlson has 137 catches in his three-year career, 13 for touchdowns. His 31 catches last season were his lowest full-season total.
"The guys that are here are going to have to prove to us that we can continue and run the offense we want to run," Coughlin said. "If we have to make adjustments, we will do it."
Left unsaid, but obvious, is that even if the Giants go with Beckum on a regular basis they do not want to compromise their ability to play power football with their running game. With their current crop of tight ends, they might just have to get a little creative to get that done.
Here is a quick look at the five tight ends the Giants have in camp:
Travis Beckum
A 6-foot-3, 240-pound third-year player. Fans have been calling for Beckum to get more opportunities, and if that is ever going to happen the time is now. Beckum caught 13 passes for 116 yards and two touchdowns a season ago.
Beckum will never be physical enough to be a full-time in-line blocking tight end, but the Giants could decide to move him around and get that in-line blocking from other sources.
"I'm ready to do whatever I have to do and whatever they ask me to do. I think that I have done a good job with whatever they asked me to do," Beckum said today. "I took advantage of everything, whether it was coming out of the backfield, at the Y or being in there during goal line. Whatever they asked me to do, I am willing to do it."
The third-year player out of Fresno State was immensely valuable to the Giants last year, moving to fullback when Madison Hedgecock got hurt. He appears headed for a move back to tight end this season, though you could also see him moving around and occasionally lining up in the backfield as a lead blocker. Pascoe caught nine passes for the Giants a season ago.
Coughlin hinted Friday that, as things stand right now, the 6-foot-6, 276-pound Ballard is likely Pascoe's primary competition for that blocking role. Ballard played one game last season and spent much fo the year on the practice squad. Ballard has been impressive thus far in camp catching the ball, but it will be his ability to clear holes for running backs and protect Eli Manning on passing downs that determines whether or not he has a chance to make the team.
A four-year NFL veteran recently signed from the Arizona Cardinals. Patrick has 45 career catches, and is thought to have been an under-achiever thus far in his career. He has some skills, though, and with the Giants' situation being what it is might get a good chance to showcase them for the next few weeks.
Christian Hopkins
A 6-foot-5, 255-pound rookie free agent. Right now he would appear to have little chance of making the final 53-man roster.
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Ballard might surprise
He has the size and the hands to be a complete TE. We’ll see what happens in preseason. I still think losing Boss hurts more than we realize yet. Damn crypt keeper Al!
Go Giants!
Beckum Ballard Pascoe
And I do not think this is good enough. JR should have been more prepared in my opinion.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
How would he do that?
There is a salary cap and only so many draftees. Plus the fact that it’s barely even been two weeks that teams have been allowed to contact players. So, how could he have been more prepared? I’m sure they have been monitoring who is available, and one of the reasons Hynoski is here is to allow Pascoe to play TE in the event that was needed. So, he’s trying.
I'll add that I didn't see an exciting TE drafted on the 2011 draft charts
So did we want to draft a TE simply to draft one?
eh
It’s not like Gilbride knew how to use Boss anyway.
I’m thinking this has a lot to do w/ Boss’ ongoing concussion issues and the fact that as big and badass he is, KB was relatively brittle.
Lol defection.
Not at all.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Beckum, Ballard, that is all.
Hynoski is the FB, Pascoe hits the bricks
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Only two TEs?
I see us carrying the three.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Nothing wrong with a little competion
let see what these fellas can do
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks for the laughs various "diehard" Giant fans on the web
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 5, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
Beckum as the starter
Patrick / Pascoe as the mixed passing / blocking TE
Ballard as the blocking TE.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 5, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
This will open up the offense
Gilbride will be force to come up with the options. Boss will be missed but is time to move on and stop second guessing everything JR does! This remind me when everyone was going crazy over Braylon Edwards.
Gotta be careful Gilbride
He is so predictable I’m afraid he is going to line up Beckum on the field for all pass plays and never for a run plays.
Gilbride, other teams are not stupid, please do not make the tight end position a billboard for your play calls.
+1, I worry about this.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
In fairness to Gilbride
The guy has a job as an O Coordinator in the NFL. The closest any of us can come to that is our splendiferous Madden Franchise management.
I’m pretty sure he’s privy to the idea that putting in certain players for certain plays might tip off the opponent. But it’s also possible that certain players just can’t contribute on certain plays.
My worry is that Beckum is such a garbage blocker that it’s not even worth having him on the field for a run play, regardless of whether or not it’ll catch the opponent off-guard (or ‘off-tackle’ for you awesome Madden players).
eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson
+1 beat me to it
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 6, 2011 5:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gilbride know more about offense
And how to run one better than any of us could dream. Spare him the advice and Moshe find something else to worry about.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 6, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beckum, Pascoe, and either Ballard or Patrick
I can’t see them keeping all four, Beckum isn’t going anywhere, Pascoe can cover duties at both TE and Fullback if needed from one roster spot, so he stays. I’d guess they’d like to see Patrick step up, but if he underachieves Ballard will steal the spot from him.
I liked Boss, but we'll be fine, nothing to worry about IMO
he was dropping way too many passes then what I would expect from him last year, but his blocking is what we would need to replace really.
He wasn’t all pro, so he is replaceable.
That's just Ridiculous!
ESPN is reporting that this is a tragic loss for the Giants...i dunno what that means anyways
Just means other guys are going to have to step up. Maybe the Gmen switch up the scheme a bit to utilize Beckum more. We have capable depth at WR.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
Keep 47
It is cool to have a non traditional number sometimes. Maybe double zeros?
Travis Beckum can be an outstanding player if the G-men , by that I mean Kevin Gilbride, play to his strengths. He doesn’t need to be used as a traditional TE. You line him up at TE in a 2 WR set and split him out as the 3rd WR. You line him up and FB and do the same. If they need a blueprint look at Antonio Gates or Chris Cooley footage and realize this guy can cause matchup nightmares he’s two big and physical for most corners and against a linebacker and most safeties the have no chance. Oh and some Dallas Clark film would be nice too
by TheBXRepresenta on Aug 5, 2011 9:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Beckum
won’t be used in a traditional way. The Giants are not working him that way. Gilbride and Coughlin aren’t nearly as dumb as some people think they are.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 5, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Coughlin is capable of change?
Inconceivable!
Carlson played very well for Seattle. Miller was a waste with all of their needs. It wouldn’t hurt to try and pry him away for cheap.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Not dumb, just stubborn :)
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
And in the case of KG very predictable.
by giant fan since 57 on Aug 6, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
How does a predictable man consistently field
An ELITE offense. Perhaps other OC’s need to stop out-thinking themselves and be more “predictable” like Gilbride.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 6, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
After the lockout there was a great deal of trading and resigning, which is to be expected, but when Kevin Boss defected to a rival team, the Giants, it seems to have sparked quite a few already badly flared tempers.
Halloween World
by robertacoleman2 on Aug 5, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
good writeup
My guess is the 3rd TE spot comes down to Ballard or Patrick.
I have a feeling Pascoe is the primary TE.
eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson
Poor Kevin
he’s not going to have a good time there. but you got get some bank before your career is over.
Conan!, What is good in Football?!
Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.
C'est la vie....
while the loss of Boss (…sorry) does not leave the Giants in an ideal situation, lets not overreact. While Boss was a nice guy and a fan favorite, he was hardly paving his way towards Canton. Boss is a good, above average TE. He is hardly irreplaceable. Assuming WR’s Nicks and Manningham, along with RB Bradshaw, continue to improve, they should be able to take up a larger chunk of the receiving load. Rotate in Beckum, Patrick and Pascoe et al, to help with pass catching, blocking and such, and I feel the Giant’s offense shouldn’t miss a beat. If the Giants can somehow pick up a John Carlson or the like, great. In the meantime, lets see what happens between now and the start of the regular season.

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