Projected 53 Man Roster - Updated for Dave Tollefson
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 9:58 PM EDT
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OFFENSE (26)
QB (2): Eli Manning, David Carr
RB (5): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, Da'Rel Scott*, D.J. Ware, Henry Hynoski
OT (4): Will Beatty, Stacey Andrews, Kareem McKenzie, James Brewer
OG (5): David Diehl, Chris Snee, Mitch Petrus, Kevin Boothe
OC (2): David Baas, Adam Koets
WR (6): Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon, Ramses Barden, Jerrel Jernigan, Devin Thomas
TE (3): Travis Beckum, Bear Pascoe, Ben Patrick
DEFENSE (24)
DT (4): Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Linval Joseph, Marvin Austin
DE (4): Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul, Mathias Kiwanuka, Osi Umenyiora, Dave Tollefson
OLB (4): Clint Sintim, Michael Boley, Adrian Tracy, Mark Herzlich
ILB (3): Jonathon Goff, Phillip Dillard, Greg Jones
CB (5): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, Prince Amukamara, Michael Coe
S (3): Tyler Sash, Kenny Phillips, Antrel Rolle
SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
LS: Zak DeOssie
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I think they will have more DBs
Also I doubt they will keep 5 DTs. Bernard and Watson are going to fight it out for the last spot.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 4, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
temporary brain fart
who would be next in line at DB?
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Coe or Witherspoon for special teams I'd say
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ah, good looks
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks good
but I’d say Herzlich is also a candidate to not make the team. Also Watson or Bernard aren’t making it, and I’d say Stacy Andrews isn’t close to a lock either.
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I knew we usually keep around 6-7 LBs
It was either Herzlich or Williams. It’ll depend on ST. You’re right, mclaren also said Watson/Bernard both might not make it…looks like overkill.
Andrews, from what I’ve heard, looks solid….and who would we replace for watson/bernard?
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So, no Matt Dodge?
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
no
we’re going 8-8 regardless
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No way in hell we're keeping 2 punters...
this was surprisingly difficult for me as it is…
It was either Weatherford or Dodge, and Dodge STILL looks inconsistent and Coughlin isn’t gonna take that shit.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
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I'd drop Coe
and go with Williams. Both can show up on specials, and LB is wide open right now, while the secondary is pretty solidified.
You down wit JPP?
I hear ya,
I do think though, that CB depth is kind of weak. We have nothing behind a dime CB. It was really hard for me to drop Williams though, and I think if he takes over a spot, it would be over Herzlich.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
This looks good except
5 Guards might be overkill. I would eliminate white & put in cruz until SS comes back
Nobody wins the SB in August
Well, Diehl can double as an OT
and Snee and Boothe double as C’s. That’s why I figured it would be important to keep a bunch around.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
True
btw, I enjoy your sig
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
all the “Dream Team” BS made me want to remind folks of 1 simple truth
Nobody wins the SB in August
Hate this part of the season
I was hoping the new CBA would raise the roster number.
yeah aint that stupid
the camp roster went from 80 to 90 but the reg season roster is still at 53. I would think that makes it even harder to decide who to cut
Nobody wins the SB in August
Koets and Barden
Who’s next up for either if they can’t open the season, PUP?
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Cordle and Cruz
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty good run down
doubt they have that many O-Linemen… a few may be able to be “hidden” on the practice squad like Brewer and White
"we need to get cam newton before the panther's get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out..... do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" - DieHard NYG Fan
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 4, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
perhaps
though I doubt they would risk Brewer going to the practice squad.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No way Brewer goes to practice squad
He’s probably better than many teams backups, and would stick on an NFL roster
Random: If anybody wants any hilarity
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/8/1/2309274/bengals-need-to-make-palmer-for-umenyiora-trade-happen
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
the dude's dead serious too apparently
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which makes it even more hilarious
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 5, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Palmer gonna restructure too
then we may have a deal
"we need to get cam newton before the panther's get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out..... do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" - DieHard NYG Fan
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 5, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
wouldnt you think he would at least see that we already have a starting QB
I mean Eli was named MVP of the Super Bowl a few years ago. Or has he been living under a rock for the past few years?
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
What a moron
they think Palmer can replace Eli as a starter. wow… I’ll take a hit of whatever he is smoking.
They must not teach math in med school
I count 52 total. You’ve 26 on O, not 27.
3 potential suitors for that last spot that I’d like to see make it are:
-Devin Thomas
-Dave Tollefson (although they already gave away his number)
-Jacquain Williams (he’s probably more than likely PS material)
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haha appreciate it, my bad and fixing it to add Devin Thomas.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 5, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
No prob man, nice work.
I anticipate some injuries (dear god hopefully not many or to key contributors), some additional signings, and some head scratching cuts. But overall, it looks like a pretty damn solid roster.
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by Larry Soprano on Aug 5, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially if...*fingers crossed
We have the bossman and ss12 back
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 5, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Last year they kept 10 on the OL, you've upped it to 11
Possible, but I think they will decide between Chris White, Stacy Andrews and perhaps Get Your Jamon Meredith.
That would give you an extra spot on defense
The game-day active went up from 45 to 46
but, as I understand it, that extra man doesn’t have to be a QB anymore, and I think the rule disallowing one of the previous QBs to re-enter the game after the 3rd guy comes in have been abolished.
Not sure about that, though.
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good job BBI
i haven’t sat down and really thought about it yet….
I guess i’m hoping Boss is back.
wouldn’t be shocked if M. Clayton beats D. Thomas.
wouldn’t be shocked if Ballard beats Pascoe
that’s all for now…but i’ll be back
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Boss #89
I don’t know if anyone noticed, but word is that Ben Patrick is wearing Boss’s #89. Maybe it’s just me, but that’s definitely not a good sign for bringing Bossman back. I’d be even more terrified if they gave David Carr #12!
I think that was a misprint, its #83 now
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coughlin is hounding Boss
they want him back…
they wouldn’t slight the man by giving his # away.
that report was errouneous.
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Pretty Close
That’s pretty close to what we’re looking at for opening day. I’m afraid a few of those guys will be injured over the next few weeks which will make the decisions much easier and not have to worry about who to cut. A lot of those decisions play themselves out. I like the idea of two undrafted guys making the team (Hynoski/Herzlich). I think finding those gems are paramount in fielding a strong 53 man roster. Great job!
P.S Any reason we throw a league minimum offer out to Richie Seubert to to back up C/G? I know he loves being a NY Giant and he doesn’t seem to be getting a whole lot of offers on the open market.
I think they'll take a look at Seubert if they have some injuries to the OL
he’s still probably hurt so its not like he’ll be ready for opening day, but if he’s still out there a few weeks into the season and we need him, I think he’ll sign.
It really doesn’t matter what we’d be thin at either. If its T, Diehl can go to T. If its a G, then Seubert goes there.
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Thanks
I remembered reading that somewhere, but I read so many Giants sites/blogs these days that I’m sure it was just a typo. I feel a little better about that, but still concerned why Boss isn’t in the building right now. I understand it’s a business, but for what reason would he even be considered the Raiders. Does he not realize it’s the Raiders? I’m starting to question his mental makeup now! RAIDERS!
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Why wouldn’t he want to go to a quality organization like that? To have a chance to step onto the hallowed grass of Overstock.com Coliseum? To be a part of the Al Davis Committment To Excellence? To bond with grown fans who spend half their paycheck and time playing dressup?
Well, the weather’s nice.
11/1/2010
Position Battles
This is probably better suited for it’s own post, but in your opinion, (injuries aside) what are some of the positional battles you’re looking for in the next month? Any who would you like to see winning that battle. I’ll start….
- QB Rosenfels vs Carr – I’d like to see Sage traded to get a late round pick back for a team that needs a backup. No reason to keep 3 QB’s on this roster. either way, if Eli isn’t QB’ing, what’s the difference anyway?
- RB DJ Ware vs Da’Rel Scott?
- DB Prince vs Ross?
- WR Hixon vs Barden vs Jernigan vs Thomas vs Clayton?
- Safety Sash vs Thomas?
- DT Bernard vs Joseph vs Austin?
- OLB Kiwi vs Sintim?
Let me know your thoughts and opinions.
Carr
Ware (Scott ain’t going anywhere though)
Prince
Barden ain’t in the convo b/c he’s PUP and def making the team….but IMO Thomas
Sash vs. TT ain’t competition….fewell just doesn’t know how to call a CB a CB and a S a S
Joseph
Kiwi
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Sash vs. TT
I was referring to that 3rd down, 3rd safety role that Deon Grant played last year. Maybe they eliminate that role this year, but it seemed to be pretty successful.
Intersting
Rosenfels vs Carr – You are absolutely right in that we don’t keep 3 QBs. Both seem interchangeable to me, and Carr has a more manageable contract, so I’m thinking Sage is gone.
DJ Ware vs Da’Rel Scott – Ware wins this easily I think. Scott has to prove himself on special teams before he even sniffs the 53 man roster.
Prince vs Ross – I think Ross wins because Prince has had no time to practice/study playbook. Eventually Prince takes over though, but not to start out the season
Jernigan and Hixon beat out Barden (reason being – PUP) and Thomas/Clayton – Jernigan and Hixon will make their money on ST and will be bigger playmakers than Thomas or Clayton. Thomas would beat out Clayton.
Sash vs Thomas – Like andiamo says below, basically interchangeable but Sash will again, make his looks mostly on ST to start the year. He seems to have gotten a name for himself in camp though, Tuck compliments him on twitter.
Bernard vs Joseph vs Austin – This should probably be just Bernard vs Joseph for starting fat DT reps next to Canty. I think Joseph wins out, with Bernard (or Watson) along with Austin, back up Joseph and Canty, respectfully.
Kiwi vs Sintim – I’m beginning to think it will be Kiwi.
Most interesting is the back up LB role:
Jones vs Tracy vs Herzlich vs Williams vs Dillard vs Paysinger
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 5, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
thats a lot of 1’s there….
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by njsoldier1978 on Aug 6, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry
it wasn’t like that when I put it together. SBNation changed it when I posted it. Formatting issue.
Use bullet points, instead,
by typing an asterisk and a space
- like this
*not like this
The space after the asterisk makes it a BP.
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LB'ers
Jones vs Tracy vs Herzlich vs Williams vs Dillard vs Paysinger?
I was never really a fan of Dillard’s. He played LB behind Suh in college who was tripled team on every play leaving him to clean up and rack up tackles a lot of times unblocked. I think he was a bit overrated coming out of college and hasn’t really impressed too much to this point.
I’m really high on Jones, although he needs to bulk up a little bit IMO. I watched a few games of his in college and liked what I saw. Really suprised he last until the 6th round.
Herzlich obviously is everyone’s fan favorite. I’d love to see him make the team, but at who’s expense. We’ll see how healthy he is in the next few weeks.
Williams looks real fast on video and could be a ST beast, but with limited time to learn the playbook and not much time to impress, could be a practive squad guy for the first year.
Tracy, honestly I just haven’t seen too much of him, but have heard good things.
Paysinger – don’t know much about it really, but he doesn’t sound like a guy that is anything more than a ST contributer.
apparently Paysinger is doing well in training camp
My heart says Jones and Herzlich
My brain says Jones and Dillard.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 5, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I could see Dillard cut
When a team brings in 3 MLB in basically 12 months being a draft pick isn’t as secure. Especially in this case. Herz comin off that major injury should just be rounding into game shape. I can barely remember Dillard getting into plays even on ST. So if Herz comes in is a standout on STs (Like Tasker) and shows promise at MLB, Dill is on thin ice.
I think that Williams, Tracy and Payslinger are battling for outside slots. Having seen Tracy, it’s hard to see him getting cut unless he’s hurt again. Williams seems very much in that mold too, long rangy athletic quick. I don’t think Payslinger has much of a shot.
I think there will be a drafted LB that gets cut
Either Williams or Dillard or Tracy.
Paysinger / Ingram might actually make the team because people are raving about their training camp
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 5, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Dillard
I guess the next few weeks will play it’s way out. I would like to see what Dillard brings to the table in the preseason games. I think Herzlich will be the fan favorite obviously and personally think he’s more talented overall, but we’ll have to see if he’ll ever regain form from 2008. If he does, than we just stole a potential 1st round talent, if not, then no harm.
I think I heard some good things about Kenny Ingram as well. He could be a wild card in the mix.
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Cruz will make the team,He’s too good.Stop with the 10 or 11 lineman.They don’t rotate in like other positions.You don’t need 6 backups,they can all switch positions. They will only keep 8 maybe 9,and keep xtra linebackers and dbs to help on special teams.This is not what we want.You have to look at what Coughlin does every year.
Everytime I read about training camp
Its Cruz or Jerg is dropping a pass. I still believe Jerz will make the team but don’t know bout Cruz. Cruz will have to have another preseason like he did last year.
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Cruz hasn’t shown anything except one preseason game. Devin Thomas made valuable ST plays and subbed in nicely at WR last year. He gets the nod over Cruz.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 6, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
27 offence and 23 defence has not been the split so far.
I think we have carried 8-9 O-linemen in the past, so 11 might be stretching it.
And I really see us taking a 7th reciever, given our problems at that position last year.
Also 4 is max number of DT’s possible, given our pechnant for lining up DE’s at the DT position.
But can’t argue with much else.
I got rid of Chris White
and I think Scott is a casualty when (if) SS12 comes back, which makes it 7 WR.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 6, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll disagree there
With our lack of center experience, I think White makes it over Andrews.
We play a lot of 3-safety sets. So we need 4 safeties. Could be Michael Johnson or Grant.
Ballard over Patrick. We need blocking help more with a rookie FB and no Boss.
No three SAMs. Need to cut one.
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53 man rosters
Wel, Ballard over Patrick is a definite now. SS12 has to be brought back, has to! I think the RB position is going to be interesting to see who claims the last spot. DJ Ware signed a contract, but between Charles, Scott & Brown he’s going to have competition for that last spot. I think it may come down to who contributes more on special teams.
I wish they would have increased the rosters to 54 or 55 players, but these things typically play themselves out and some of these decisions aren’t that hard when we’ll typically be picking up more guys before the season starts just to field a 53 man roster,
This to me is what makes the 4th quarter of a blowout preseason game exciting to a fan like me, to be able to watch a young guy pushing for that extra yard or diving on the ground for that loose ball to try and lock up that 53rd spot on the team. Sorry, just having a Rudy moment! lol
GOOD WORK.
Agree 100%
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LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I guess you'll have to update it by cutting out Patrick...
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