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Defensive Line and LB Rotation

With the expected (my expectation) maturation of Clint Sintim and JPP, I was thinking about the rotations we could use for the defensive line and linebackers. 

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On first down and second downs, I'd like to see this:

Tuck (LDE) - Joseph (NT) - Canty (RDT) - JPP (RDE)

Boley (WILL) - Goff (MIKE) - Sintim (SAM)

This would be our base alignment.  We could get Anvil to eat up two blockers and let Canty abuse guards 1-on-1.  I feel that JPP will be as dynamic a pass rusher as Osi while being better against the run. I know that he's not there yet and that's a big statement but that's what the Giants believe as well.  He'll get there with more experience.  I've been the biggest Sintim supporter here.  If he has finally figured out the 4-3, I think he can be something special. 

Fewell on Sintim:

Clint (Sintim) is coming off an injury. He has come in with a great attitude. He has practiced well for two days. We had to limit him some because he is coming off an injury but I like his retention. He is able to retain the defense and apply the knowledge that he has learned and I think that is the problem he had a year ago.

 

On 3rd-and-long, I'd like to see this:

JPP (LDE) - Tuck (LDT) - Canty (NT) - Osi (RDE)

Kiwi (WILL) - Goff (MIKE) - Sintim (SAM)

Osi wouldn't have to worry about maintaining gap responsibility and containment.  He could just let loose for a sack.  Sintim was a pass-rushing LB in college.  He is better suited to be a blitzing LB than any other player on this team.  Tuck goes inside as usual.  With Canty becoming the NT who takes up two blockers, Tuck gets a 1-on-1 matchup.  JPP switches sides and has Kiwi on his outside shoulder.  We already know how Kiwi played in the "Joker" role last year.  That's five pass rushers on the field at once.  There's just no way an offense could handle this.  I don't expect to see Austin much this year but he's a pass rusher so maybe he replaces Canty in this look later in the year.

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On 3rd and long

I’d rather see 4 defensive ends on the line, with 2 LBs (Boley and Goff) and 5 DBs.

by GoffAttack on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed

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by wilddre22 on Aug 4, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agree with the 2LBs and 5Dbs,

2 LBs being Boley and Goff/Kiwi perhaps. DBs would keep Rolle, KP, Webster, and some sort of combo with TT/Ross/Prince filling in as CB#2 and TT/Sash as the “3rd safety”/nickel back.

I like the above stated DL though. Although I know its apples and oranges, Canty was a 3-4 DE and should probably stick in on the 3rd and longs, as he can take the double teams and still get a little push or run defense just in case.

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by RealLT on Aug 4, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry but

Canty can’t beat no one 1 on 1

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by terellchewy on Aug 3, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Cris Collingsworth disagrees with you

“If they’re going to try to block him 1-on-1 with Roberto Garza, they’re going to have a problem.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_2bFIbhJWg

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It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 4, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Canty repeatedly get double teams

why do you think Barry Cofield got paid son?…

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by wangstu13 on Aug 4, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

id rather see Kiwi

on running downs. rather than JPP. Kiwi was pretty good at it. they could rotate if JPP proves his worth

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by 1giantlion on Aug 3, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

yes!

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by Troy O on Aug 4, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Who would you take out for the nickel packages?

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by Willgfass on Aug 4, 2011 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd take out Sintim

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 4, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

that 3rd and long

scenario is freaky.

I’d remove Goff though, and sub in Boley, who’s better at pass coverage

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Good call

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 4, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ghost

I liked how you pointed out the Joker role. But here’s what I’m thinking. Tuck, Kiwi and JPP are versatile enough to play that “joker” role. I really think if Fewell were to flip flop who lines up in that role, alternating on possessions we may be very hard to guess what type of D we are lining up in. We need more confusion on D IMO. Causes more TOs.

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by wangstu13 on Aug 4, 2011 2:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Depending on the O we are playing that week

is how id decide who gets more reps KIWI or Osi at RE.

just dont see fuel handing over the job to JPP just yet.

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by Troy O on Aug 4, 2011 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

once again

we have an embaressment of riches along the Defensive front.

With or without Osi, they have too many options (that we’d all like to see more of) to get them all on the field without some inventiveness on the part of Fewell. It seems to be a can’t make a bad choice type of scenario. As long as health is not an issue, I think we’re gonna see a steady rotation all the way across the front throughout the 2nd and 3rd quarters, to keep fresh legs for crunch time.

The concern is the middle, Canty eats up blockers, but the other 2 are unproven and need to be the guys we think they are otherwise I’m not opposed to sliding Tuck inside and getting Kiwi and JPP out there on the ends.

Also still like the thought of Kiwi at LB from time to time.

Sorry man, still no faith in Sintim.

You down wit JPP?

by Flynner on Aug 4, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I understand that you don't have faith in Sintim yet

but he can’t get that on the sideline. He has to be worked into the rotation at some point.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks good to me

can’t argue w/ the person above who said on 3rd and long Boley should be in there instead of Goff.

I also think that more pressure is a good thing.

one would think that Kiwi would be the one brining it.

also, don’t discount the fact that Goff could very well be displacing Sintim on 3rd and long if in fact Kiwi is the “rushing LB”

Sintim still gotta prove he’s a 4-3 LB….let alone a 3 down 4-3 LB.

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by andiamo708 on Aug 4, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

which begs the question

maybe Goff does just stay at MIKE and Boley displaces Sintim (on 3rd and Long)

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by andiamo708 on Aug 4, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Ghost was thinking along the lines of

both Sintim and Kiwi as the blitzing LBs with Boley/Goff dropping back into coverage

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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

If we use 5 DBs as GoffAttack suggested, then I think having both Kiwi and Sintim as our two LBs is fine.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 4, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the thought

of either Anvil or Canty eating up two blockers on first down, allowing the other to blow up a play before it gets started. Depending on the distance, situation, offensive personnel on the field, we may see them both again on second down. We know Canty can take on two Olinemen, as he regularly freed up Cofield.

 It would be quite an asset for us if Anvil is the “fire plug” as JR called him and is able to take on two blockers with regularity. That would mean that as long as one of those two were winning at the point of attack against two guys, the other one of would be getting penetration into the backfield on a high percentage of plays. Wow. I like that word. PENETRATION.

Kiwi is such a wild card in this. He makes our D so much more versatile.

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by tommy d. on Aug 4, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you asking slot of JPP to learn both DE roles?

I’d keep him at RDE, I also think that Austin will be ready for some specialist 3rd and long duty by mid season the latest.

by trueblue63 on Aug 4, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

something I was thinking about

Anyone think they would put Canty at DE on short yardage running downs.

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by pataroons on Aug 4, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Who would you put inside?

Josepn and Bernard?

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 4, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you imagine? 3rd and 1

the DL is Austin-Joseph-Watson-Canty

Holy crap, NOBODY is running on that.

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 4, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call an audible.

Quick slant or swing pass. At least you have a shot then, cause ain’t nobody running on those boys. Even the “great” Lady Gaga McCoy. lol

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by tommy d. on Aug 4, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would consider Watson

eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson

by pataroons on Aug 4, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

MORE KIWI, thats about it :)

I would also like to see…. (if Osi plays) this on third and and longs..

JPP – Tuck – Kiwi – Osi
Boley – Kiwi

Webster – Ross/Prince
Thomas
Rolle – KP

Thats a shit load of talent out there.

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by Moshe52792 on Aug 6, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Kiwi got cloned!

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 6, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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