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New York Giants Notes: Aaron Ross Has 'Exciting' Opportunity

Aaron Ross. (Photo by Patrick McDermott/Getty Images)

Good morning, New York Giants fans! Here is your morning dose of Giants-related news and notes.

Cornerback Aaron Ross, who is of course now a very important Giant with all of the injuries at that position, admitted Tuesday that the plantar fasciitis he was struck with in training camp a season ago "was lingering around the whole year" and did not stop bothering him until this March.

Ross, whose role has been limited the past couple of seasons, is looking forward to his opportunity.

"I’m excited. Every play I get to play out there on the outside, like I said I haven’t been out there for two years now, so being out there on the outside and being able to make plays and show coaches I can make plays, the fans, the media. It’s exciting," he said. "Last year I was really confident and ready to go, but unfortunately I had the foot injury that kind of set me back for the whole year basically. This year was pretty much the same thing, I’m going into it with a positive attitude and my main thing right now is to stay healthy. It’s been good so far, just have my fingers crossed that I can continue to stay healthy."

So do the Giants, Aaron.

Coach Tom Coughlin said newly-signed cornerback Brian Williams is "a veteran who knows how to play ... we are in need of someone who can learn quick and go from there." The Giants waived linebacker Kenny Ingram to make room on the roster for Williams.

Defensive captain Justin Tuck said the Giants "have to move forward" after the rash of injuries the team has suffered.

"It really doesn't do us any good to ask questions like why. It is not going to bring them back and it is not going to help us deal with the hole that those people being absent presents. We are not going to pity ourselves because those teams we are playing this year definitely aren't. You have to move forward," Tuck said. "Does it hurt? Absolutely but every team has to go through this and every team is going to have injuries. Every team is going to have people go down but the teams that bounce back are the teams you see in the playoffs and competing for a championship every year."

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Unknown Giants CBs Joe Burnett, Darnell Burks have opportunity after injuries | NJ.com
"I knew I was just a body coming in just to contribute any way I can," Burnett said. "I didn't look it as an ego thing or anything like that. I knew they had guys who were still here. But it was just another opportunity that another guy could come in and put his hand in the pile."

Doc: Thomas recovery no sure thing - NYPOST.com
Terrell Thomas faces a more arduous journey back to playing high-level cornerback for the Giants than most torn ACL patients because his is a repeat injury in his right knee.

Thomas first tore his right anterior cruciate ligament in 2005 while playing for USC.

"Revision surgery is notoriously less successful," Dr. Jonathan Glashow, an orthopedic surgeon and co-chief of Sports Medicine at Mt. Sinai Medical Center, told The Post.

Giants’ Da Rel Scott is Determined To Succeed  | Pro Player Insiders
New York Giants rookie running back Da’Rel Scott hasn’t had the easiest path to the NFL. What Scott does have is a strong support system and an inner drive to succeed. Scott has used his difficulties, which have been many, to fuel his desire to achieve his dreams.

When he was 8 years old Scott’s father walked out, abandoning Da’Rel, his mom and two brothers.

"I am always going to have anger because of how he did me," Da’Rel said in an interview with the Washington Post. "It is always going to be there. It is not going away. No way at all."

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Kenny?

Did not expect Kenny Ingram to be waived this early. From what I’ve seen/heard he’s been having a good camp.

by BigBlueHoo on Aug 25, 2011 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Linebackers

Giants had 11 linebackers on the roster. He was having a good camp, but no way was he making the team. Giants might have done him a favor by letting him go now and giving him a chance to hook on somewhere else.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 25, 2011 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rams

Is it possible that when cutting a decent player like Ingram, that the Giants give Spags a heads up (because he was so near and dear to the organization and fans alike), or is that illegal? Some kinda of collusion.

by murderhill on Aug 25, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would they give an oppose team that kind of heads up? They may potential see them in the playoffs.

by Giantstep on Aug 25, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will Ross make it to the Bye Week...

before his first injury, the over/under? Pretty good pickup in Williams, has started a lot of games in this league, and better than Lito Shepperd.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Aug 25, 2011 6:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Off the couch

I hope the CB crew does not look like our LBs and few years back, or the WRs last year.
Where we had to call free agents off the couch to start for us.

Either way, I’m dusting off my game shoes, and my Pick-6 dance moves, in case I get the call :)

by ross_stephen on Aug 25, 2011 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

The silver lining (if there really is any)

is that these injuries took place very early as opposed to midseason or late in the year.

This means they have more options to look at for replacements and the replacements have more time to become acclimated with the team.

It keeps getting thrown out there as an example, but does the Pack make their Super Bowl run last year if they lose the likes of Finley and Grant and the remaining dozen or so players they put on IR later than they did?

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 25, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too late.

Lost 4 of our top 6 guys already. I’d say we’re there.

by DJ Farnaquelhe on Aug 25, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Da'Rel

I didn’t realize that Da’Rel only got one carry in that game. Not a bad average if you ask me! 1 Carry for 97 yards?

My Gut tells me he makes the team and becomes a spark. If he can get the pro-style blitz packages, I think he can get 3-5 carries a game, maybe a whole series and make some highlight plays.

I know he went 97 vs. a bunch of Chicago 3rds… but 97 yards is 97 yards.

by ross_stephen on Aug 25, 2011 7:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he has to make the roster

Brown is running well but how do you pass him up. Not just speed but vision and balance on that run. Nobody in the league will catch him.

If you try to put him on the PS, he will be snatched.

Only possibles to deter him from making it would be fumbles or some other major mistakes. I think he can catch the ball too so as a third down guy, he would be useful. An LB covering him would be a tough job.

I really hope he does make it because this team needs speed.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 25, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was very confused

Not used to having a Giants not be caught from behind. I’d love to see him developed as a KR. I prefer RBs there – used to looking for holes, better built to take the hits.

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by ct17 on Aug 25, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ware just doesn’t look like a natural at RB to me. He doesn’t seem find the holes or get more than what’s there. Hasn’t worked out as KR either. I hope he’s the first to go.

by DJ Farnaquelhe on Aug 25, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ware just doesn’t look like a natural at RB to me

He looked pretty good against the bears.

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Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Aug 25, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes he did Troy

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Aug 25, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

Much more explosive than anyone else.

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by ct17 on Aug 25, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeap.

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 25, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looked great vs. Seattle last year too

when he ran out the entire 4th quarter….

and got banished back to the bench immediately after that game.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 25, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

aside from the extra effort touchdown score I don’t know that I saw anything that impressed. Again, the things that good running backs do – finding the holes, avoiding direct hits, getting something out of nothing – i didn’t see any of that from him in the Bears game.

by DJ Farnaquelhe on Aug 26, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

Ware seems to be Derrick Ward reincarnate. The product of good blocking. He just doesnt have the “it” factor I see in many great RBs. I see that in 4 other guys on our roster. So as far as im concerned, Ware can go.

ut I dont get to make those decisions. damn, I woke up too early. Dont u hate that?

Nobody wins the SB in August
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by 1giantlion on Aug 25, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

we will never win the superblow!!!!!

by gianthawk34 on Aug 25, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Kid can play

I live in MD and have watched him play in school, he is good had a teriffic soph yr then got hurt jr yr had a so so sr yr. Very fast as we all witnessed with the 97 yarder after falling down! Can’t ignore that speed…he should be kept if not he will be in Oakland with his former teammate Hayward-Bey. Al Davis loves speed!!

by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 25, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scott makes the team no question

I’m hoping we lose DJ and go with AB2 instead. On a side note, even though he maybe a little banged up right now, I kinda hope we sign Hayden. It’d be nice to have a surplus at CB rather than a bunch of question marks.

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 25, 2011 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Small sample size....

But I liked what I saw from Scott. As for A. Ross I’m not very confident he’ll remain healthy but I’m definitely rooting for him. I hope he worked hard this offseason so he can shake the “doesn’t have the passion” for football label he’s been carrying.

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by bleedblue12 on Aug 25, 2011 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Scott earned some playing time Sunday

Our third RB competition is really kicking into high gear. I hope coach starts playing these guys early to see what they do against stronger competition. No need in AB or B Jake getting hurt.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 25, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they did Ingram a favor by waiving him now, but I don’t see why it had to happen. Didn’t they just put two guys on the IR (Austin, TT) and waive Brian Witherspoon?

by hopeforthefuture3 on Aug 25, 2011 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Paysinger is the guy

They are both built the same smal LB thatl can cover in space, I think the Giants like Paysinger more.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 25, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I do too....

He was playing against backups and guys that’ll be bagging groceries next week but he was around the ball the whole time he was out there monday night. I would like to see him get some “real” preseason action against NFL players that’ll be NFL players come Sept. 11.

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by bleedblue12 on Aug 25, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paysinger was the first back-up on the field on Monday

He got significant playing time in the first half along with the first teamers. More than likely to help spell Boley, but while he was out there he held his own.

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by Larry Soprano on Aug 25, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paysinger, Jones, Herzlich.

Likin’ those guys – based on one preseason game (didn’t see Carolina). Dillard’s lookin’ like he’s in trouble to make the team right now. Hasn’t done much to distinguish himself.

by DJ Farnaquelhe on Aug 25, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yup

I think Dillard, Tracy and Sintim are all in trouble but JR may not let go.

I cannot see how he can let go of any that you mentioned though.

Williams has not shown much (ex picking up the Jones fumble which was illegal but a good move) but I do not think JR will cut him so soon. May try to PS him.

DeOssie has to stay as well. The punting game needs improvement and he is the LS.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 25, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paysinger, Jones, Herzlich.

Let’s say for the sake of argument these 3 guys pan-out…what would we say about JR then? Genius perhaps. Based on what they have shown – I know it is only 2 games -I hope it comes to fruition and these guys to stay with the team. Herz is a big boy, when he intercepted that pass dude looked huge. Pay was all over the palce and I saw “fire” and “will” in Jone’s attitude. Goff may be playing good but what good is it if you can not relay that to your teammates.

by Bavaro 89 on Aug 25, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would not say anything about JR because he had them scouted and brought in

The only waste of space out there seems to be Sintum, everybody is entitlled to some mistakes in the draft, you guys who keep thinking Acorsi was a drafingt god keep forgetting about all the duds he picked, like Willie Joe and Jeff Hatch in the 3rd from U Penn.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 25, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disappointing news about Ingram..

JR needs to come to the conclusion that Sintim is not a fit for this team. If he would be doing anyone a favor it would be Clint so he could catch on with a 3-4 defense. I always thought his body type was more of a DE than an LB. Ingram was a former safety which is exactly what we needed at the LB position with the ability to use his length to close passing windows and cover RBs and TEs.

by DooshLaLoosh on Aug 25, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I was almost thinking they might want him as the umteenth backup for corner in worst case.

I would have cut Sintim before but JR does not like to admit mistakes.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 25, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tuck

was interviewed right after learning that TT was injured. He used the same sort of pro football rhetoric that he gave in that interview. “Put it behind us..” “opportunity for other guys to step up…”, etc, etc. But in that sideline interview, where the story line ESPN wanted was “oh what a tradegy this is for our team”, after the lady left but the camera was still on Tuck’s face, Tuck did a silly thing. He stuck his tongue out at the camera. He might have crossed his eyes as well but it was too quick to tell.
At the same time, fans and bloggers were in shock. Shock, I tell ya, commiting ritual suicide by the thousands, others were ripping out their hair in clumps and throwing up on the floor in front of the tv (beer and Cheetos-yuck!).

Then we read later the team’s moving on, can’t let it effect us, injuries are part of the game. Yada, yada, yada.

So; Tuck= “oh well, sh*t happens”. Fans= chronic depression requiring hospitalization
I call that cognitive dissonance, or “what’s up with that?”

by murderhill on Aug 25, 2011 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Who cares if he made a face. A little levity in the face of adversisity is a good thing.

People gonna get hurt can’t cry about it. This is football a man goes down next man take his place. Now go out there and win a Championship.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Aug 25, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't care if he made a face

just sayin it wasn’t as big of a deal to him as it was to fans and the media.

by murderhill on Aug 25, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's always a bigger deal to the fans

And the Media Please biggest drama queens on the planet.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Aug 25, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares....

and what is he suppsoed to say??

by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 25, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good for Tuck

He said what needed to be said. They aren’t going to dwell on it, they have to move on, forge ahead. He was keeping things loose. Why dwell on an injury, it’s a shame, but the players all move on, and we as fans need to do the same. That’s why he’s our defensive captain. I like what he did, instead of doom and gloom seriousness, he showed he’s happy to get the season started, and can’t wait to play the games for real. High energy guy showing his passion, that’s all. I applaud him.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 25, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone read that NYPost article

That Dr. Was being a real rear-end about Thomas’ 2nd surgery to that knee. Acting like he works for Pro Teams or he’s Dr. James Andrews FOH! This just hurts his stock for next yr. We’re probably going to give him a responsible offer and if we lose him hey we tried. Then he’s going to sign a 1 year deal with the Pigeons and we’re all going to attack his Twitter lmaoooo

by AHoustonGiant on Aug 25, 2011 8:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hurricane preparedness

If the Metro NY area gets hit hard, a lot of readers could need to a place to crash (and login). So I’m thinking that since they are well away from the coast, Ed, brisulph, and Mike should take everyone in. I’ve got a passport.

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by ct17 on Aug 25, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Canada

Is quite nice this time of year.

I hate the Jets, Justin Bieber, Kardashians, and people in general.
PEYTON > Brady
Predictions: Jets Flop
Vikings Surprise

by espnsucks ((banned)) on Aug 25, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i spoke to my grandmother in Calagry yesterday

it’s 90 up there right now….

go kick rocks!

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 25, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I been to Ottawa

On a couple of hockey tournaments. Unfortunately it was always in the Winter, and freezing.

I hate the Jets, Justin Bieber, Kardashians, and people in general.
PEYTON > Brady
Predictions: Jets Flop
Vikings Surprise

by espnsucks ((banned)) on Aug 25, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol...

i’m just kidding.

but i’m serious…it’s really 90 up there. they get summer for roughly 3 months and it’s back to the big freeze.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 25, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bye, gotta go do somethin.

I hate the Jets, Justin Bieber, Kardashians, and people in general.
PEYTON > Brady
Predictions: Jets Flop
Vikings Surprise

by espnsucks ((banned)) on Aug 25, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yay

SB nation got an app!

I hate the Jets, Justin Bieber, Kardashians, and people in general.
PEYTON > Brady
Predictions: Jets Flop
Vikings Surprise

by espnsucks ((banned)) on Aug 25, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Cmon down to FL

No hurricanes here. They just pass by on their way to NY.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Aug 25, 2011 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

FL is still there?

I was not sure after the last few years of hurricanes. :)

I guess the Dolphins have to play somewhere.

Hey do you have an email for Bobbiblue who lives down there? I know he left but I wanted to ping him.

Any info from anyone would be appreciated.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 25, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't but i miss his posts

I think Larry Soprano has it. I know they were talking about gettin togrther.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Aug 25, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, must have been someone else.

I do miss that guy around here though.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 25, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Larry Thought it was you

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Aug 25, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

No not NY it gonna hit NC now.

by Giantstep on Aug 25, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

they're before us

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 25, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Time to work it out

Ross will have to make the best of his situation…he claims that he was still not 100% the past two years, now we will see. I’m hoping that he will be OK and not get injured. He was a 1st rd pick in 2007. Williams is just a cheap stop gap measure, he is a NFL vet that can learn the system quickly and not make too many mistakes. Decent on his coverage and tackling, will keep an eye on him.

by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 25, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

It's an exciting opportunity for us too

Kinda like that earthquake was an exciting opportunity.

I just thank God we’re playing a team with no QB in the opener.

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Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Aug 25, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope for a different Ross

While the team can work around the lack of aggressive hitting in this position, I fear the constant separation of the recieivers when AR is out there. I hope the fealing of the plantar fasciaitis allows him the quick speed to not allow this… or we are in trouble.

by SJBBfan on Aug 25, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Sad to hear TT may never be the same.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Spencer Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Aug 25, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's not write TT off just yet

He has a long road back but we all know he has the heart of a Lion, he will be back.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 25, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ross is a charter member of Team Ghost

I’ve been defending him for the last two years. It’d be really nice if he could step up this year.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

by GhostDini on Aug 25, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

at this point...

all he gotta do is stay healthy and prevent big plays.

make ur tackles…

do that…we’re good.

I mean, that’s all TT was doing….minus the FF.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 25, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Concurred.

I have always been a big Ross fan. I loved when the Giants picked him in 2007, and I hope now that he has his shot to be the starter for the whole year, he stays healthy and has a great year.

"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning

SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!

by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 25, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Team Ghost

Only has 7 players, that’s not even a full squad Ghost… :P

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Aug 25, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we had more guys who have potential,but we just can't see it,there would be more..

Opposing passers will be made miserable,seasons ruined
there may be no excuses given,only Mouts Smashed

Which LB's make the cut?
Starters: Kiwi Goff Boley Sintim Greg Jones Herzlich Jaiquan Williams(by the skin of his teeth)Sweet Rookie LB's!
PUP Osi
Scout team:Paysinger

by Shaunthegiant on Aug 25, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

52 = Sintim or Pepper?

Team Okpokowuruk
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by ct17 on Aug 25, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is ross's injury

from last year all healed up? All we knew is that he had an injury and than no one said anything after

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Aug 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Usually optimistic....

but I am nervous about Ross… Hope his time further down the depth chart. Has had a positive effect, made him hungrier and so on

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