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Giants Vs. Bears, 'Kudos & Wet Willies' Review

Brandon Jacobs (27) of the New York Giants runs the ball against the Chicago Bears during their pre season game on August 22, 2011 at The New Meadowlands Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.  (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images)

I have -- finally -- had the opportunity today to re-watch the New York Giants-Chicago Bears preseason game and put together my thoughts on the Giants' 41-13 victory. So, here is your better late than never edition of 'Kudos & Wet Willies.' Let's just say that once you get past Terrell Thomas' injury there were a lot of things to feel good about coming away from this game.

Star-divide

Kudos to ...

Devin Thomas: Special teams in general were outstanding, but Thomas deserves to be singled out. When is the last time you have seen a Giants player return kickoffs like that? A 73-yarder and a 34-yarder en route to averaging 46 yards on three returns. By the way, Michael Clayton is an outstanding lead blocker on kickoff returns. He absolutely blew up a Bears defender on Thomas' 73-yard return.

Matt Dodge and Steve Weatherford: The next bad kick by the two Giants' punters will be their first of the preseason. Both were oustanding against Chicago, Dodge averaging 54 yards on two punts and Weatherford 49.5. The Giants gave up only 21 return yards total on those four punts.

Greg Jones: A blocked punt for the sixth-round pick, a play on which he asked for permission to rush. Jones also got in on three tackles.

Aaron Ross: Monday night was as well as I can remember Ross playing since his rookie season. Two tackles, two passes defensed (officially). I counted more than that. With Thomas down, Ross's importance to the Giants' secondary cannot be understated. Monday night he showed he might be up to the challenge.

Justin Tuck: It was just one play, but Tuck chasing down Matt Forte 40 yards downfield to save a touchdown after a Chicago screen pass was simply extraordinary. That type of effort -- in the second preseason game -- cannot go unnoticed. It's the kind of play a lot of NFL players would not make, simply because they wouldn't put in that kind of effort.

David Baas: The Giants new center had a terrific night. On a screen pass to Ahmad Bradshaw Baas got out in front and wiped out three Chicago defenders by himself. On Jacobs' 18-yard touchdown run Baas -- as picked up by the ESPN crew -- deftly adjusted the line call when Eli Manning audibled to the run, and the play blew wide open for a touchdown. I think we can stop worrying about this guy.

Brandon Jacobs: Eight carries, 48 yards and his juke of Major Wright on his 18-yard touchdown run was beautiful. Jacobs ran exactly the way the Giants hope to see him run -- hard and decisively. Also, 'kudos' to ESPN's Mike Tirico for a tremendous call on the play. If you missed it, Tirico said 'somebody pick up Major Wright's jock" as Jacobs blew past and headed for the end zone.

David Carr: Nine-of-11 with two touchdown passes, plus a nice scramble for 17 yards. Carr has now matched serve with Sage Rosenfels for the backup quarterback job, making this an interesting decision for the Giants.

Mathias Kiwanuka: Only two tackles for Kiwi, but what I noticed was that he was around the ball all the time in the first half -- against the run and the pass. Good work as he re-adjusts to playing linebacker.

Rocky Bernard: Yeah, you guys think he's a big, fat waste of a roster space. The veteran defensive tackle made five tackles Monday, though, including at least two on tremendous hustle plays chasing down a play from behind.

Victor Cruz: Manning had to keep helping Cruz line up, but the guy made plays. His 21-yard catch on fourth-and-4 was beautiful. On top of which, he made a nice special teams tackle for the second consecutive week.

Spencer Paysinger: Speaking of around the ball all the time, that is exactly what I kept thinking watching this undrafted free agent linebacker from Oregon. He was in position at the point of attack on almost every kickoff and punt coverage, and played pretty well at linebacker in the second half. He finished with eight tackles, and I think he has pretty much guaranteed himself a spot on the 53-man roster.

Mark Herzlich: A tremendous play on his goal-line interception, and three tackles, He was active both at linebacker and on special teams in the second half.

Da'Rel Scott: When you almost fall down at the goal line, then make a beautiful cut to daylight and go 97 yards for a touchdown you get 'kudos.'

Wet Willies to ...

Bear Pascoe: I love Bear, but he spent the night getting blown up by defenders while he was at fullback and having guys run around him while he was at tight end. The fact that the only time I noticed rookie Henry Hynoski all night was when he got blown up trying to lead block for a running play can't make the Giants feel good about the fullback or blocking tight end spots.

Kenny Phillips: I can't swear that each play was Phillips' responsibility, but Chicago completed three long passes Monday night and both times I watched the game it sure looked like KP was late on all of them. Plain and simple, he needs to be better than that.

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I went back and looked at the 2nd half again

Marvin Austin deserves a Wet Willie as well. Got ZERO push and was blown back quite a bit.

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh and speaking of Wet Willies

A Wet Willie to the Football Gods.

Per John Clayton:

The Giants currently lead the league with seven players out for the season, and that doesn’t include CB Terrell Thomas, who blew out ACL

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

7?

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 23, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I have to count them. That doesn’t seem right.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

same. But its John Clayton, so idk

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Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

usually pretty accurate

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wikipedia

has seven counting Chad Jones
Sam Giguere, Cary Harris, Bruce Johnson, Martell Mallet, Martin Parker, Woodny Turenne, and Chad Jones.

by sv1031 on Aug 23, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah about that...

Cary Harris and Martin Parker were waived.

Sam Giguere, Martell Mallet, and Woodny Turenne were waived/injured.

Bruce Johnson is the only one listed that had a shot of making the 53 man roster and he was placed on IR.

Clayton should avoid getting his information from Wikipedia.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Aug 23, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wow!

I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...

and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I offer a Kudos to

the entire Giants team.
No turnovers in two games????

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

+2

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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.....

and got to show some love to the Special Teams for a change.

by rbman3 on Aug 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

one word

IZZO

He should be in charge of ST!!!

by NY17NE14 on Aug 23, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos to Hixon

For getting nice air time on his TD catch. Good to see him back in the endzon, even if ESPN thinks u are Michael Clayton

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 23, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nah I think it was Jaws

although Gruden should’ve know it wasn’t Hixon

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by Willgfass on Aug 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

all three of them said it

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 23, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Tirico making the call

and they all just went with it until Gruden noticed it was Hixon on the replay

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was Tirico

making the call. Then Gruden quickly followed “I know that guy, Michael Clayton”. “That’s an excellent catch by Michael Clayton”.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 23, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Sage should be worried

Carr’s been in this offense and knows it well and he really did play well. If we need to free up some cap $ for a CB or two, I think Sage might get cut because he’s making big $ compared to Carr.

by bgn1987 on Aug 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

I feel super comfortable with Carr as the backup
Sage too, but just the $$ aspect warrants me to go with Carr

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and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Young LBs and Reese

I really like the young players we have at the LB spot.

I think the injury to TT should really help us gain perspective on J Reese’s methods of acquiring and evaluating players.With drafting Prince and JPP the year before he looks like a psychic or something.

I think Ross is capable, and hopefully he can provide consistency at the CB position

by brandon7 on Aug 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know why people were so hard on him.

He was pretty good as a backup when he was on this team the first time.

by uberfunction on Aug 23, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Play of the game
Justin Tuck: It was just one play, but Tuck chasing down Matt Forte 40 yards downfield to save a touchdown after a Chicago screen pass was simply extraordinary. That type of effort — in the second preseason game — cannot go unnoticed. It’s the kind of play a lot of NFL players would not make, simply because they wouldn’t put in that kind of effort.

I’m glad ESPN went back to illustrate just how much of a hustle play that was. I’m going out and getting a Tuck jersey just for that.

by bgn1987 on Aug 23, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

go Jason Tuck!

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and secret agents
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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the pregame

Berman referred to “John Pierre Paul”

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Aug 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

again?!

shakes head

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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

sports commentators

are like an anti-PR campaign for the Giants D line

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Aug 23, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're almost there

At least it wasn’t John St Pierre like a couple of weeks ago …

Get it right !!!

by KumaBlue42 on Aug 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked "Prince Akura"

on First take this morning.

its not like he was a projected top 10 pick or anything >_>

by Raptor22 on Aug 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was in on a lot of blocks. Not so much the passing game.

I remember seeing him hesitate running a couple routes. Good solid blocking though.

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he cleared the middle for a Manningham catch too

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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

blocked well, drew coverage all night

I’d say he earned the right to be more of a primary option the next game

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking

that they wanted him to block, and that’s all.

They already know he can catch.

(IIRC, I saw him sustain a good block on a DE… although it could’ve been a LB. Either way, I’m happy)

by Raptor22 on Aug 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckum made one nice block

other than that not much although he did clear out the middle on a route so Ham could catch that 3rd and 15 ball over the middle.

by bgn1987 on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is awesome

Greg Jones: A blocked punt for the sixth-round pick, a play on which he asked for permission to rush.

Just what you want to see from a player. I’m excited to see which of the LBz makes the final roster.

Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: No... that's not true! That's impossible!

by LondonNYG on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Wet Willie to Antrel Rolle

The pass play where Matt Forte went for 47 yards in the 1st quarter was made possible because #26 took a bad angle yet again…

by Scott123321 on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I noticed that as well

Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Aug 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumors are Lito Sheppard to the Giants.

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

The team will bring in some veteran cornerbacks on Wednesday, according to Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network. But LaCanfora notes a key aspect of the Giants’ search is the team is looking for players willing to sign for the veteran minimum, which has already scared off former Colts corner Kevin Hayden.

Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: No... that's not true! That's impossible!

by LondonNYG on Aug 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hayden would've gotten injured next game anyway

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A smart football player

Always liked him with the Eagles

Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Aug 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. I'm reallly only looking for him or Gay.

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Aug 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh oh

in fantasy football last year, i used to use whatever receiver it looked like Lito was going to man up on. Hopefully they find the right place for him to succeed.

by kiemurphy on Aug 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the game.

I’d also give a wet willie to Antrel Rolle, whose bad angle allowed/forced Justin Tuck to make that play to save a TD. Forte ran right by Rolle

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by Frank Campagnola on Aug 23, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

ran by both safeties. Antrel was more than solid the rest of the game, don't think you can

give him the wet willie for that one play

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our 2 animals did not fair to well

Like Ed said
Bear and Hynoceros need to get better at their lead blocks

I'm down with J.P.P.
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and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

ANVIL

I was flipping back and forth last night but I noticed the interior line was getting some great pressure up the middle on running plays early on. I could never quit catch who it was but I assumed it as the Anvil. Did anyone else notice this?

by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

canty was beastin' but idk

Team Intervention:

Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anvil and Canty are terrors

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

and they seem to be building some chemistry.. .knowing where the other guy is going too, I think we’ll be nasty up the middle this year.

by TNYFBG on Aug 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it Ed

and I’ll prob get killed for it
but at the very least for this game…
Tom Quinn deserves a kudos…there I said it

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and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

No he does not

the team does.
they played inspired and disciplined
HE had nothing to do with it
That is obvious from the last few years

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummm ...coaches

responsibilities is to prep their team, help them understand their assignments
and get them to execute it
I would say that includes getting them to play inspired and disciplined

I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...

and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it's just 1 preseason game kudos, not a big deal

I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...

and secret agents
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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so bad is all Quinn

but any good he has nothing to do with.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah pretty harsh

I keep calling for his head, but willing to give him a kudos for 1 preseason game of massive improvements
I mean we didn’t really have DThomas back there returning kicks last week…so now we do, and coverages were air tight…
he should get some kudos

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and secret agents
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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It has nothing to do with the fact that we have better / younger players on specials

by KumaBlue42 on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

same guys from last week

well mostly …only change I saw was DThomas on kickoff returns

I'm down with J.P.P.
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and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, I'm all for it

If kickoffs can look that good next week against the Jets ST " guru " as many experts like to call Mike Westhoff, then we’ve got something good going on here

by KumaBlue42 on Aug 23, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's this Saturday already

that would be something

I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...

and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hasn't he got a new assistant ST coach?

Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: No... that's not true! That's impossible!

by LondonNYG on Aug 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and is probably

causing him to step up his game

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking

Or bypassed Quinn completely and lit a fire under the ST squad personally. Whatever it is, it’s working. For now at least.

Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: No... that's not true! That's impossible!

by LondonNYG on Aug 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol...okay, lets give it to him :) I'll buy that

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and secret agents
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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll go one step further

Kudos to Dodge (and Weatherford)
Like Ed said, not a bad punt between them. I will not credit Quinn here, I’ll credit some LBz and WR’s that are hungry to make this team and showed it on the coverage units.

by bgn1987 on Aug 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Former Special Teams Ace Larry Izzo

Who, by the by, probably locked Quinn in a closet after the Carolina game. Hopefully a closet in Carolina.

by Raptor22 on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that's why ST played awesome

I'm down with J.P.P.
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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell Izzo

probably took place in some drills and showed he is still better than many of our decade younger guys

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

they prob have video footage of that too somewhere

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by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Yes, that’s true. I want to look at special teams more later in the week.

by Ed Valentine on Aug 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Ross

As I said earlier, I was just flipping back and forth from the game to VH1 Classic’s 100 Greatest Artists of All Time (HORRIBLE list BTW, just attrocious) but from the 2 plays I saw Ross make, they should still have been caught (one by Williams and the other on a 3rd down in the redzone). Maybe he made more plays then I saw but I wasn’t too high on his performance.

by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ross broke those plays up

that’s what a CB is supposed to do. Any more expectation of him on those plays is asking way too much.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams

The drop by Williams DEFINITELY should have been a catch. I didn’t get to see the replay on the dropped redzone play.

by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross got his hand in there

Gruden kept yapping about how it should’ve been a catch but Ross made a good play there. Same goes for the redzone play with Hester, Ross hit him at the perfect time.

If it was any other corner on the team they’d get all this praise for making plays. Ross apparently can’t do anything right.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not true....

atleast on my part. I TRASH TT all the time when discussing the Giants with my cousin. He was HORRIBLE against the Iggles last year. He is one of the highest targeted CBs in the league and that says a lot to me (dont ask me to prove that cause I know I’ll never find that stat again.)

by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tought we were talking about Ross

Thomas is out for the year now.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point

is that I am not being hard on Ross just because he is Ross.

by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a fair stat

because team often don’t throw in Webster’s direction.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 23, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross rebounded nicely

but what was he thinking on the reception by Hester when Hester was down but Ross didn’t touch him?

by GMen56-11 on Aug 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does this mean that there really IS a competition at punter ?

Who would have thought

My guess is that Weatherford still gets the job

by KumaBlue42 on Aug 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Dodge deserves a chance

he was a rookie last year, he looked great last night

by Giants15 on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dodge did look great

but I still prefer Weatherford because he can put the ball wherever he wants a la Feagles. And while Dodge has a really strong leg, Weatherford aint too shabby in that department either.

I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.

by bdiggle25 on Aug 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also did you see how jacked Dodge is now?

I’m sure after last year he figured he would be making a lot of tackles.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dodge has always been jacked

At one point in college he was up over 240.

by Raptor22 on Aug 23, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so now

next bad kick is the kick off the team

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dodge v Weatherford

all things equal the stick with Dodge. Reese and the Giants do not like cutting draft picks. Even high picks.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Low

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Aug 23, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't catch the game here in England.

Can someone shed some light on how Rhys Lloyd looked?

Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: No... that's not true! That's impossible!

by LondonNYG on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

fat

I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...

and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, janikowski-esque

Team Intervention:

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Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, exactly

Minus the leg and accuracy of course

by KumaBlue42 on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, for a second

I thought I could be an NFL kicker. Then remembered I can’t kick.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe to following two comments

but he made his kicks with ease and I can tell you I was very impressed with how quickly his kicks got up and carried

At the very least, he is adding to his resume for another team.

by SNORKIS on Aug 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, I liked his kicks

but kickoffs are at 35 this year, I have no problem with Tynes still doing those
unless Rhys can show STs how to tackle someone – he’s just filler (no pun intended)

I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...

and secret agents
#13 & #47

by 27Tango on Aug 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fat, but he kicked well

He was on the money on his FG’s, and his kickoffs went about 10yrds further than Tynes’ best.

by Raptor22 on Aug 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, he's got "stored energy"....

around his waistline. You can’t fault a guy for being ready for a famine…just in case.

by WideRight! on Aug 23, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

regarding KP

On at least two of those big pass plays it appeared the defense was just caught in the wrong scheme at the wrong time. Both plays that I am thinking of seemed to be basic Cover 2 with Webster expecting help from KP over the top but KP was also dealing with someone running straight up the seem so he had 2 players to account for. He did look a tad slow reacting but still I would say it was more due to the coverage than his mistakes.

I'm looking for Ray Finkle.....and a clean pair of shorts.

by bdiggle25 on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Kwillie to Beatty

False start stalled our first drive, allowed pressure on Eli early on, but managed to work through it and keep Peppers at bay for the most part which is no small task.

Win ugly.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Beatty

I thought Beatty did well against Peppers (certainly better then Paesco and McKenzie). The play after the false start, Peppers tried to bull rush him and Beatty barely got pushed back at all. It seemed Peppers did most of his damage from the R side of our line.

by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

+65

Peppers did do his damage from the right side. Blew by Mack on one play and then on another we had Bear out there alone on him. Not sure what kind of protection you’d call that other than none.

by bgn1987 on Aug 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to remember the play

It was definitely the first or second series…Peppers made a nice move on him and Eli was forced up in the pocket because of it, no sack, but caused a bad pass.

Either way that’s why I said kwillie, because other than those two plays early not a peep was heard from Peppers

Win ugly.

by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wet Willie to the TV coverage

It’s hard enough trying to figure out which 11 of your guys are on the field in a preseason game when the time in between snaps is constant interviews nobody cares about. Half the time they did not even announce the tackle.

Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Aug 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

long island too

Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Aug 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeap

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a seismic reaction

to hell freezing over due to our ST having a good game

by BleedBigBlue on Aug 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Seawright is alive!!

I could be wrong, but I think Jonas Seawright just got out of bed… the earth usually shakes when that happens.
 
Welcome back Jonas!!!

by ross_stephen on Aug 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Earthquake was response that we've lost another CB

Witherspoon torn ACL, done for season.

bigblueview bigblueview
RT @Spoony29: My season has come to an end TORN ACL..

by bgn1987 on Aug 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Goff

I thought Goff looked much improved over last year. One of the big knocks on him last year was his pass coverage. But he took a nice deep drop in the zone on one play and broke up a pass. And he was all around the ball and even got a sack. Very encouraging.

Interesting battle between Ware and Andre Brown. Brown didn’t show me much last night, but it was a pretty small sample size.

Dillard got a lot of snaps and other than the stop on the goal line stand I didn’t see him do much. And that play belonged as much to Greg Jones, who knifed in and got a hand on the ball carrier first. Didn’t see much out of Sintim or Adrian Tracy either. Liked what I saw of J. Williams both on specials and with the third team.

I agree with Ed. Phillips looked a day late and a dollar short on every play where he was visible.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Goal line stand

On 4th down, Grant made first contact and the stop. Dillard help clean up.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 23, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Dillard AND Jones only did clean up.

AMEN FOR THE GMEN!

by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

Goff made a great play in pass defense by dropping deep and diving to deflect it.

by ggggmen08 on Aug 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coaching and JR

Coaching gets a willy for allow one of our only other cb’s to punt return. Have we not learned from seahorn days.

by Giantstep on Aug 23, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

see

You guys wanted to give the Gods a wet willing and in return they give us an earthquake

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 23, 2011 3:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

KP worries me

He looked lost and slow, I was not happy with him at all. Where is the star we were all hoping for? Is his injury still nagging him?

Our secondary is badly hurt (now Witherspoon), we can’t have any slacking.

When will this CB injury news end?

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 23, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

^^^ This

KP was a step late a lot last year, so I tried to blame the fact that he was coming back from injury. But last night was more of the same. I don’t know if it is the fact that he is physically slow or if he is just slow to anticipate, but that has to change. Webster left the guy to take his short zone and KP didn’t react well enough.

by ggggmen08 on Aug 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spend some money

I think this team is built to reach the playoffs and make a run… but no way we can do that with scrubs at Cornerback, in a division that has extermely dangerous reciever duos.
We have some leverage.. Sage Rosenfals and Daivd Car have played well., and we only need one of them. We might also be able to offload one of running backs(very optimistic.. I agree, but I think we have an excellent stable). I recall a jets fan proposing a swap of Kyle Wilson for Osi.. and thinking , man what is that guy smoking…. But maybe a 4th rounder might be enough incentve to pry Kyle Wilson from the Jets.

by bbnycfan on Aug 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Team effort

If the Giants play with the same intensity on the road as well as at home. We most likely be in the Super Bowl.
Great game.

by Olddiehard on Aug 23, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

One more thing

Like Lt. Colombo…

Wet willie to Coe who missed an ST tackle and played a weak game overall. He might still make the roster as we have so few that can still play.

Let’s drink a toast to some good news though. All of the Kudos that Ed gave out were well deserved. Good playing overall, it was a team effort.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 23, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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