Asante Samuel Won't Be Replacing Terrell Thomas
by Ed Valentine on Aug 23, 2011 8:48 AM EDT
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With the unfortunate season-ending injury Monday night to Terrell Thomas I woke up this morning to a message in Big Blue View's Twitter inbox asking if the New York Giants would not trade Osi Umenyiora to the Philadelphia Eagles for cornerback Asante Samuel. Umm ... no, gang, that is not going to happen.
Yes, with Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie in addition to Samuel the Eagles have an embarrassment of riches at the corner. But, why would Philadelphia send Samuel to their NFC East rivals? And why would they take Umenyiora, whom they not only don't need but would have to sign to a rich new contract. On top of which, why would the Giants send Umenyiora to a place where he could try to terrorize Eli Manning twice a year?
So, you can forget that idea. Unless the Eagles are dumb enough to just cut Samuel -- which they won't be -- he won't be a Giant.
The Giants have to find reinforcements at the cornerback spot, though. With Thomas and Bruce Johnson (Achilles) down for the season, Prince Amukamara weeks away from returning from his broken foot and Brian Witherspoon having suffered an MCL injury of still-to-be determined severity, the Giants have serious issues at the corner right now.
"We have to address it," said Giants head coach Tom Coughlin. "We just have to make some decisions, whether or not there is anybody out there that we can bring in, and shuffle some guys around."
One name to watch has to be veteran cornerback Kelvin Hayden. The 28-year-old six-year veteran is still a free agent despite having been a starter for the Indianapolis Colts for the past four seasons. Hayden has missed time with injuries in each of the past three seasons, but a look at the list of available free-agent cornerbacks makes it pretty clear he is the most talented corner currently on the market. If the Giants are going to get in on the Hayden derby that seems to be developing, they had best move quickly.
In the meantime the Giants will turn to veteran Aaron Ross and hope that they oft-injured, sometimes disappointing 2007 first-round pick can both play well and stay healthy. They will also hope that Amukamara makes a quick recovery from his broken foot, and that once he gets back on the field will not take long to work his way into the defensive backfield rotation.
Ross was matter-of-fact about the situation.
"Teammate went down, now it's my job to fill-in. I'm ready. I'm ready to get back on the field and hopefully coaches have confidence in me still," he said. "Corners go down like flies around here. It's unfortunate, but Michael Coe, he's ready to step in and do a great job. We also have Joe Burnett. We're pretty set."
We will see about that.
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Many of us thought...
there was a 0% chance that SS would sign with the Eagles before he did. Anything is possible in the league at this point.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 23, 2011 9:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1 Canadian dollar
Worth more than your devalued money. XD
Seriously though, I agree with you, no way the Eagles FO are that dumb.
SS was a free agent
Why would the eagles trade for damaged goods? Not to mention a head case
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Because he's good.
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 23, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I have a twitter to advertise or anything
but I’m curious how you got that twitter follow button in your sig
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Oh, the levity!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 23, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
One last note on how i feel about this TT situation
I Feel Like i just walked in on my girl in the ACT of cheating. And im talking explicit ish……………..Thats the only way i could sum up how im feeling :’(
by AHoustonGiant on Aug 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan of giving up a lot for a new CB.
Amukamara will be back in a few weeks (although will admittedly need a while to get up to speed), and hopefully we get T2 back next year as good as new (as long as he signs a new contract; I’m foreseeing SS12-esque nightmares in the near future.) Hopefully Ross will be able to step up.
Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to Rhett Bomar.
Luke Skywalker: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Darth Vader: No. I am Rhett Bomar.
+1000000000
Factology! Belief is ignorance.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 23, 2011 9:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dumb idea
Send it to the comedy thread
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
by TheWenz on Aug 23, 2011 9:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hayden is a capable corner.
But as you touch on, he’s very injury prone. He’s also one of the corners that loves to give a large cushion to the receiver, which simply didn’t work in our system – I could see him being a good pickup for the Giants, and I think he could thrive in the #2 CB role for you, as opposed to being an average #1 when he was with us. He’s a converted receiver, and he knows how to make plays on the ball.
That’s the perspective from a Colts fan in any case. I’d quite like us to resign him at a lower salary, but judging by the free market interesting, it doesn’t look likely.
Antoine Bethea - the most underrated safety in the NFL.
Thank for the input
We’d be happy if he was the nickel CB for us. We just need half a season fo decent play.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
I'd much rather find a fill in to do well for the first half of the season
Prince I think should be fully ready to play a lot by the Miami game, and really overall our schedule aside from the Eggs is very light to start the season.
Thomas was a very good player but I don’t think we need to go crazy trying to replace his spot right away.
Samuel isn’t a blitzer, doesn’t like up in the slot nor does he tackle even as remotely well as Thomas. That’s really not a good trade for the Giants anyway nor the Eagles.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
The Giants should keep an eye on the Eagles corners
Yes trading for Asante Samuel is not going to happen, but the Eagles have a glut of corners and will probably be releasing at least one of them. Given their penchant for unloading veterans, Joselio Hanson, who is a decent nickel corner might become available. If not him, either Lindley or Marsh might get cut and would be worth evaluating.
I know Ross was saying the politically correct thing about TT’s possible replacements, but Coe and Burnett didn’t look like they could cover my grandmother last night, so we do need to bring in help from somewhere. Are Sam Madison and R.W. McQuareters still available?
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 23, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions
Marsh is staying. Lindley may be available, but I doubt it. Hanson is def expendable, but he plays his best in the slot. He REALLY can’t play on the outside, especially against bigger faster guys.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Yeah
Hanson’s purely a slot cb — but he’s very solid in that role
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 23, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
If I remember correcty, he was rated the best slot corner by ProFootballFocus or FootballOutsiders
(citation needed)
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
They didn’t rate slot corners specifically, but if you looked at the list, he would have been the top rated slot corner.
Haha, for the record, I get spammed to an insane degree on my new site, and I can add certain words to the spam list. “Ciali” started appearing, so it got copied and pasted into the spam word list. There’s nothing wrong with my penis.
Hahaha
That’s what you want us to think, isn’t it
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
you can get one with Cialis too you know
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Put on a greenman suit
remove all doubt!
by brisulph on Aug 23, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GREENMAN
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9764/greenman.gif
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
I hope it works
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
Now?
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
Sure dawkie.....sure
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
by wilddre22 on Aug 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That'd be perfect for us actually
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The problem there is that the Eagles aren’t just going to let him go (Hanson definitely has some trade value), although personally, I’d be inclined to just keep him.
I think the original point
was that you have a bit of a glut at CB, so you’ve got to cut SOMEONE we’d want to take a look at;… we were guessing you’d dump Hanson over some of the younger guys. If you keep Hanson, who would you let go?
Well
That answer kind of defeats the purpose of the question, but I guess even a civilized eeg fan is still an eeg fan. smh
Yeah I know
but of any of the guys you’d potentially release he’d be the best
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Nothing less than a 5th!!
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Do you guys
not use the subject line on purpose knowing we would prob just collapse your comments?
Bus, as already noted, would be very surprised if iggles and Giants worked out any kind of trade. Why would they do that? If it was flipped around I wouldn’t.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
To me the subject line is just sort of an annoyance. A speed bump, if you will. It’s funny – If you don’t use the subject line at the Seahawks site, you’ll get like 5 people to remind you that you didn’t. I don’t get it.
Seattle fans are annoying
We need to ban them from MtD
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Hanson would be a good pickup
Lindley’s going nowhere and if Marsh gets cut I might might croak by laughing to death after that Egg fan kept saying how great Marsh was and how he’s better then Prince Amukamara
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yeah I Say Bring em Back
We haven’t done well since we let these guys go retire, Bring em back for that good ole veteran presence that we need lmaoo
by AHoustonGiant on Aug 23, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i like this idea for you guys
hopefully you just need someone until Prince is back, and Marsh would come cheap. Hoping we keep Hanson.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Good grief!!
That’s an anal extract. There will be some talented corners for back-up as teams start cutting players. It would be nice to see Ross step up his game, not get hurt and make T2’s loss less impacting.
what team in there right mind is gonna trade a 'decent' corner for a backup QB that might not even make the team?
doesn’t work that way in the nfl
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
If a QB gets injured in the next two weeks
There will be a market for Rosenfels. Every team needs a good backup, Rosenfels is proven. Maybe Indy?
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
wishful thinking
we’re not gettin anything for sage
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
I like being the optimist
Plus, I can’t start drinking here at work
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
lol
i see where your comin from
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
Let's talk about the positive
We have a lot of young guys stepping up and making plays, instead of just “looking good” in practice.
I’d like to see Herzlich, Jones, Paysinger, Okpokowuruk, and Trattou get roster spots over Dillard, Sintim, Tracy.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
same here
Tracy is a decent pass rusher
Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 23, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Who will never see the field if he's the 3rd SAM
Both Ok and Trattou were all over the field last night. I might even consider dropping Tollefson for them. Although he plays hard, he’s reached his peak.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Aug 30
what are the chances they wait for a team to cut a vet on this date?
Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 23, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions
You can bet Jerry will be all over the cut list
Last couple years we have found roster players late.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
He was in our camp last year
QB who converted to safety in college. Athletic, good size. Keeps getting cut.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
No way in HELL that would every happen. There shouldn’t even be speculation. Roseman was shopping Samuel for two second rounders…not players. Plus, I doubt the Eagles would even want a headcase with injury issues like Osi for a guy of Samuel’s caliber (especially on our team).
Hopefully you guys get a band-aid fix; sucks what happened to TT.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
I hate this season and it hasn't even started
I’m starting to miss the lockout
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
whoever it is, they gotta bring in someone fast
hopefully within the next day or 2, so he can come in here, run some practices, skim through the playbook and get a few series in the nxt preseason game. gotta be ready for week 1
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
I want to borrow Jerry's crystal ball for just a couple of hours...
Last year it was “why did we draft a DE, we have plenty of depth there” and now JPP sits starting, in for an injured Osi.
This year it was “why did we draft a CB, we need OL and LB” and now everyone and their mother is hurt at the CB position, and Prince is going to be a huge reason for our success or failure down the stretch.
Either way…Reese lookin smarter and smarter with each passing draft.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 23, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
thats why they pay the man!
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
"Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not 'Mr. Lebowski'. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
-Jeffery Lebowski, The Dude
I could see him possibly anticipating an Osi issue, but it’s not like he somehow could have guessed devastating inujuries to the secondary. Prince was probably the BPA, and you guys needed youth.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Prince was definitely BPA
Every Giants fan knew it when the pick arrived. But Thomas and Ross are free agents next year, and Reese knew that too.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
TT, Manningham, Tuck soon, etc.
is another reason why JR is not breaking the bank for Osi
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
The man has the ability to see into the future.
Don’t hate.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 23, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
But this is precisely why you draft BPA
instead of strictly for need.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
But we needed a long snapper
LOL
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Ours is the best
I’d bet he’d beat all the othes long snappers on Jeopardy.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
but we NEED LBs!
PRESSING needs! PRESSING.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I thought it was LBZ!
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
You're both wrong. It's LBzez
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
and where are all the critics now?
finding something else to pontificate about
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
They are saying
Why didn’t we draft more corners?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Yep
Barden, Sintim, Beckum, Dillard, etc. are living proof of that right?
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the idea of picking up Joselio Hanson from the iggles up there.
Keep him at the slot. Cweb on one side, Prince/Ross on the other.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions
I would rather raid GB for one of thieir young CB's
There secondary coach is awesome.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yup but they have a goldmine at CB over there on the low.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Giants traded Grant to them
when they were going to cut him anyway
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I know
but then we were thinking the other way around since Giants were going to cut him – lol
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Bradshaw beat Grant out for the final RB spot
Let’s see what is out there when teams start cutting down for the regular season, we might find a Gem
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I know this happens every year
But this year for some reason the cuts seem like a second FA period. Maybe because in the past the cuts were more gradual.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
There is an extremely small window this year.
Just a couple of days between 70 and 53.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
It seems as if we are mortal enemies now
I need to get my boy Ok that last roster spot
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Team Trattou vs Team Okpokwuruk
definitely an interesting battle.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Losing TT ruined my night
But I saw a lot of good things from a lot of young guys and Vets and guys that are trying to make the roster.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
especially the LBzez
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Most def.
What I saw last night was “attitude” and “fire” coming from the young LBz. Something we’ve been lacking for a while. Jones/Herzlich are something special. How about the RB battle? Hynoskie needs to play more
All the instant love TT
got from Keith Rivers, Clay Matthews and Brian Cushing says alot about Terrell. Speedy recovery Bruh.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
All those guys won a lot of games together in college
TT is
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea they did but
I didnt see an instant out pour when SS12 went down……just says alot about TT.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
defense vs. offense
most of Steve’s teammates on offense are the likes of Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush aka who cares what they have to say.
TT’s teammates are all solid NFL players.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Well they were all teammates
Reggie bush is just as solid as Keith rivers is IMO, There are also some solid OL from that team in the league. I just think Defensive players period are typically closer.
But in the same token there was no instant out pour for Keith Rivers or Malaluga when they got injured badly. TT was just more of a leader than i thought.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
twitter also didn't exist when those guys got hurt
and again, offense vs. defense. Different types of teammates.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yea, twitter been around since 06 but not the point
Defesive players go down all the time without college teammates chiming in publicly. IMO it Speaks more to who TT is than just some technology and offense vs Defense teammates talk. Clearly he is a special person, Brandon Jacobs wouldnt have been looking like if not.
No response necessary.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Myspace is still around today too
just like twitter when it was an infant, no one cared about it. So your idea that players are coming out “en mass” when Rivers and Mauluga were hurt doesn’t play. It was only two or 3 years ago, but twitter wasnt’ what it was.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
he was last seen giving JPP an ultimate wedgie
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Really was TT fault.
JPP had the tackle. things happen.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
JPP leg whipped him
not sure anyone was at fault, especially the guy standing there
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yup, just one of those things.
Cant really fault anyone for going hard i guess…..now i see why TC is always screamin “Protect each other”, sigh.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
The worse part was
only two plays left in the half and TT would have been out of the game. Just like last year having Richie go down at the end of a meaningless game. We have some bad luck with the injuries.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
it could've happened to anyone
if this was Ross, no one would care and just chalk it up to Ross being Ross
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Football is so Ironic is it not.
Now Ross get’s he chance and redemption.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder
how many goats did Ross sacrifice to the Football Gods for this?
by BleedBigBlue on Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
My theory:
Ross sacrificed Tom Quinn so the Football Gods would give him a chance to shine.
When they saw the sacrifice was Quinn, they exacted their revenge.
On the bright side… with no Quinn the ST’s kicked ass.
I don't mind getting into the Hayden market
If he’s ready to go, not a bad guy to rely on until Prince is ready. But I would not go crazy picking up guys the next two weeks – the best options will be out there after final cuts.
Giants can guarantee playing time now
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Well we would only need him for a year
and im sure it would be around 5 mil cause he was due 6-7 from Indy this year anyway. Ver very solid cover 2 corner.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
With all the injuries at the postion
might need to try to get someone now and someone at cut time to hedge their bets
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Didn't BBI tell us he plays corner?
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
say what?
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't you?
Maybe one of the other Blues? We need fans to step up here. Go out and play.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
oh yeah it was haha I just misread your comment.
hell, dude, I’m ready. Probably could push Cweb over to #2.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
You're late for practice
Tom doesn’t like that.
You should have just showed up this morning, saying “I’m the new corner”. They might have let you in.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
All 5'9 144 lbs of me.
Might’ve mistaken me for a lighter skinned Noel Devine.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, those are almost my exact same measurables. 5’10" 140 lbs.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
haha more like linebacker
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
haha no Gonz
your just big boned.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
by costanza! on Aug 23, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like a SS to me
What’s the 40 time gonz
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys are tall enough for CB
But I’d give the Deion effort on tackling for your own safety.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Nah, played a lot of pickup games
and although had not BJ to tackle never afraid
Got a broken tail bone(most painful thing in the world I think)
broken cheek bone and 8 stitches above rt eye on same play
broken fingers up the wazzoo and
a broken ankle
never be afraid
that is what made TT great
Agreed
I’ve gotten a concussion and a dislocated elbow playing. Both were balls
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
who listens to him anyway?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
i got ya corner
6-2 220. Granted I used to play de but that was 15 years ago surely I got faster…lol
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
by njsoldier1978 on Aug 23, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
(._.)
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
maybe someone already touched on this,
and i dont like to second guess coaches, but what the hell was witherspoon doing out there on punt returns…you’re already hurting on DB’s and he totally should have been pulled from that duty
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by LT's Will Power on Aug 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
Injuries happen it's football
at least they didn’t have someone like Hixon out there.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell of a TD catch last night
And that throw gave Carr the #2 in my book. Even Eli can’t throw the fade that well.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Gruden
I was told if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it at all.
Which idiot in the booth said as TT was walking off, “Sometimes they walk off the field, but the x-ray turns up major injuries later” or something to that effect. That guy’s going to meet my fist.
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Skip Bayless.
He’s wrong about mostly everything, so we should expect to go 16 and 0
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Skip Bayless said that Vince Young gives us a better chance to win then Vick.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Why do you guys keep listening to him?
If you give the troll attention, he has already won.
Meh, it’s fascinating. It’s like when you watch something so bad just for the sake of entertainment.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
The only thing Skip ever said that was of any value
was when he referred to TO as Team Obliterater.
by BleedBigBlue on Aug 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I say they
are going 11-5
Who cares.
In JR We Trust
this injury hurts and may be a bit of a hangover for the team morale(although I think they will rally around it) but JR will find a suitable replacement and that person will end up challenging Ross for the spot next year.
Bayless has a poster of Nnamdi with a Cattleprod uniform on
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Who wants to join team Thomas now?
Devin Thomas is the real deal. Question is who the odd man out at receiver and how many do we keep?
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
He gives Jaws visions of LT coming at him
Team Okpokowuruk
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
I'm in.
I believe WR now is:
Nicks
Ham
Jernigan
Thomas
Cruz
Hixon
Barden
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
No.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough.
I like your order, but Cruz has been making more plays at WR, Thomas all over special teams. I’d say Cruz is 4th, Thomas 5th, and I’d rather see Thomas be the 4th.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hear ya
I guess I was giving Thomas the nod for the big play ability, which I like in the #4. Cruz seems more a possession guy at best, but as WR, Cruz has outplayed Thomas
Yeah I think it's the opposite.
Cruz is still a little too inconsistent, and he misses assignments.
Between him and Thomas it’s close on the #4, but I think Thomas is ahead right now. Cruz could move up as the year progresses.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Cruz doesn't even look like he knows his playbook.
Almost every play Eli was telling him to move somewhere.
I rank them
Nicks
Ham
Cruz (slot)
Hixon (2nd X)
Thomas (2nd Y)
Barden (2nd Slot)
Jernigan (ST)
Clayton (ST) or maybe cut…I’m iffy on this
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Clayton
did look good on ST last night for sure. I hate to say it, but Jernigan has impressed me the least of all.
I agree he's done the least.
But he was a high draft pick, he’s easily the fastest guy on the team, and he may have more talent than Thomas, Hixon or Cruz.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if he has more talent than Thomas
forget the ST stuff…I’m telling you guys, that guy is open on every play he’s in. He just looks super fast out there.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
I think DScott
May disagree with you on that one… I don’t doubt the talent, just wanna see it in action, and I’m sure he’s making the team anyways.
I'd take
Hix over Cruz. Otherwise, agree.
Looks good Cheese but
I would go Nicks, Ham, Thomas, Hixon, Cruz ,Jernigan Barden
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Here's my take on the situation at hand
TT, who was quickly becoming one of my favorites on the team, was probably going to play at a ProBlow level for us this year. Losing him really really sucks. But let’s be realistic fellas and ladies (if they’re on here), he’s a corner. They don’t break your team. If you have a Deion Sanders type corner he can really make your team, but losing him doesn’t break you. Yes, we need Ross to step up, but it was clear that Ross was going to be the #2 CB in nickel coverage. So all we really need to do is find a slot corner. And if that corner is only average and Ross only plays average, we can’t blame a poor season on them. The position just doesn’t have that much of an impact on the defense, especially our defense. So we’ll be alright. Guys will step up. And if our offense improves the way we expect it to and our Def Line is as good as we expect it to be, we’re a playoff team.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Ross is a big blow
Led the team in tackles last 2 years if my memory serves me.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
When you're thrown at as much as he is,
he should have a lot of tackles.
He’s still a significant loss.
by BrooksBridges11 on Aug 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really care about TT's injury.
because there was no way we could’ve prevented that. Maybe TC should’ve taken them off the field since he took Eli off, but still.
Now the Witherspoon injury was completely Coughlin’s fault. After your CB just suffered an injury, and now you have 2 CBs down… how in hell do you let someone who plays that position vulnerable to taking hits?
No excuses this year. We don’t make the playoffs Coughlin should be fired. Packers won the SB with key injuries.
what was he supposed to do?
pull the DE’s too? getting a little thin there. C’mon, this is football. People get hurt. No one’s fault.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Who are you talking about TT or Witherspoon.
Because you understood what I said, you’d realize that I don’t care about TTs injury, there was no way to prevent that.
Witherspoon got hurt returning a punt.
Really?
They probably don’t have Hixon there because of his injury last year. You have to look at someone and someone has to do the job. It’s easy in hindsight to say something like that.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
So none of the remaining CBs
should play at all until the regular season now?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
*comprehension*
None of the remaining CBs should be returning punts unless that’s why they are here.
Do you guys have selective reading? Do you guys read/comprehend what you want and then make bogus comments on that?
I comprehend what you are saying
I just don’t agree with it. How about they have no one return punts and just let the ball roll around since you are 100% certain that you are guaranteed to get hurt returning punts.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
How about having JJ12
or someone at a healthier position return punts. Instead of having someone who plays at a weak position (due to health) take unnecessary hits?
Is that not the logical thing to do? I don’t think you are comprehending what I’m saying.
Understand your point amd agree.
by G-FANinFL on Aug 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My updated 53 man roster
PUP: Adam Koets, Ramses Barden
QB: Eli Manning, Sage Rosenfels (2)
RB: Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs, D.J. Ware, Andre Brown (4)
FB: Bear Pascoe, Henry Hynoski (2)
WR: Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon, Victor Cruz, Devin Thomas (6)
TE: Travis Beckum, Daniel Coats (2)
C: David Baas, Jim Cordle (2)
G: Chris Snee, David Diehl, Kevin Boothe, Mitch Petrus (4)
OT: Will Beatty, Kareem McKenzie, James Brewer (3)
Offense: 25
DE: Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora, Jason Pierre-Paul, Dave Tollefson (4)
DT: Chris Canty, Linval Joseph, Marvin Austin, Rocky Bernard (4)
MLB: Jonathon Goff, Phillip Dillard, Greg Jones (3)
SLB: Mathias Kiwanuka, Clint Sintim, Adrian Tracy (3)
WLB: Michael Boley, Spencer Paysinger (2)
CB: Corey Webster, Prince Amukamara, Aaron Ross, Brian Witherspoon/New CB, Michael Coe (5)
S: Kenny Phillips, Antrel Rolle, Deon Grant, Tyler Sash (4)
Defense: 25
LS: Zak DeOssie
P: Matt Dodge
K: Lawrence Tynes
Special Teams: 3
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
Whoops, only 5 players given at WR....forgot to put in Jerrel Jernigan
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Carr is the backup.
We brought him in to hopefully beat out Rosenfels, so we could shed his contract. It’s why Carr is getting all the 2nd team playing time, and has out performed Sage by a mile. I also gotta believe Da’rel Scott makes it over Ware. He’s a home run threat every time he touches the ball. My biggest question is do they have room for Herzlich? He’s has two impressive games, he seems to be getting better as he understands the defense more. I don’t know if we can afford to let him go, and I think there’s no chance he makes it to the PS.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
To me,
Herzlich has out performed Dillard easily. If I was Dillard, I’d be worried.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know just yet. Dillard has been playing 2nd team
Herzlich has been playing 3rd.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
True.
Herzlich is just one of those guys that stands out on film. Call it what you will, he was born to play football.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I really want him to make the team. Just can't justify it, you know?
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
From what I have seen, he has looked really good on special teams at least… working his ass off.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you guys will pull an “Andy” and stash him in the IR beacuse of an “injury” in order to keep him and a roster spot.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
I wouldn't mind that. He needs a year I think
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
although can you imagine the media speculation? yikes.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed, but its probably the best course of action
I was excited when we picked him up, but came to realize that we wouldn’t be the team he’d stick with unfortunately.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm… i just know that there must be a team out there with no depth at LB…. it’d have to be one that is ok with taking risks….
oh, wait.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
doesn't matter if he goes to that team that must not be named
I’ll still root for him,
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I was against drafting Herzlich
because I was very anti making sentimental picks. I even argued for a while against him as a UDFA at draft time, but relented.
Now I think he would be ahead of Dillard, and I think it’s Jones that makes Dillard expendable and allows the team to keep Herzlich as a growth project on the roster.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
he’d be a crazy value if ends up making it.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Herzlich really making the team? I mean, I love his story and all (and I’m sure you’ve seen more of him then I have), but it seems like everyone’s talking him up just because of his struggles. Don’t really see it yet.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
He's been playing 3rd team,
but he’s had two rock solid games, and lasst night I’d say he had a great game. Not what you’d expect from an UFA Rookie. He’s definitely got another level.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
he has been impressing on special teams.
He’s solid on the 3rd team, but we have an abundance of SLBs, which is his natural position. He’s fourth on that depth chart, and 4th on the MIKE depth chart too. Only way I can see him making it is if he’s a WILL
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have noticed him on special teams (well, at least because I was looking for him). I’ll be rooting for him to do well, no matter where he ends up.
by igglemethis on Aug 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
same.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point
I would take Herzlich natural instincts at LB over Tracy’s pass rush potential. I think there’s more room to utilize Herzlich’s skill set than Tracy’s. We have pass rushers, we don’t have very many LBs that look like he has.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Tracy can go back to the Practice Squad
If we cut Herzlich someone is picking him up.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
someone else will pick up Tracy too
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm okay with that
If we need a LB to rush, Kiwi, Sintim, Boley are all good at that, we have less with Herzlich’s skill set, I see Tracy as very expendable for our team, not due to lack of talent, tho.
If Tracy goes so be it
To me it should be either Sintum or Tracy, both are LB’s with pass rush potential. Giants should really look at Sintum and ask themselves are they looking at another Gerris Wilkenson
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
did Sintim even suit up last night?
I never noticed him and I took motes on every play.
Granted, I could not see all the LB’s every play, especially in the second half when the interviews ramped up during broadcast.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
oh, so he played strong side valet?
this is my problem with him. His awareness just seems off to the point where he is always just late to the play.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Funny how these pet LB projects just keep getting worse
First I couldn’t stant Reggie Tobor, than the Giants drafted Gerriss Wilkenson and all of a sudden Tobor didn’t look that bad. Now this Sintum guy is starting to make be long for Wilkenson. WTF
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tracy is a dime a dozen player.
Herzlich may not be.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The kid has great LB instinks and a good motor
He is a little slow, but you definilty notice him out there. Same with Paysinger, I would look at either cutting Dillard or Sintum and keeping those guys. Herzlich has already done more on the field than Sintum ever has.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Reese will not let go of Sintim. He stays whether we like him or not.
Dillard, well, he’s consistently getting 2nd team snaps, so they think of him more highly than we do.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
To be honest I did see Dillard doing somethings
I really want to like Sintum, I look for him out there, but I just don’t think he is in the right system for his skills, I know the Giants don’t want to give up on him but when I think who has a higher upside Sintum or Hrezlich I am starting to think Herzlich, the guy just has a natural feel for the game you can’t teach.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
This
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't justify 9 LBs....our secondary would suffer if we took one more.
Paysinger and Jones, along with 3 incumbents, plus Sintim and tracy seem to be locks. I think dillard stays.
Sage vs Carr, I just put in 1. Ware got a lot of work last night, so I’m thinking he’ll be higher off than Scott.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on the first 5
While I don’t think Sintim should be on the squad, I think he’ll make it. With that said, I hope that Herz makes the squad over Dillard. Herz is the type of player the team can rally around as he can be an inspirational player and has more potential than any other linebacker on this team, and even if he never regains his old form he’s already proved to be a very intelligent player, and those type of players always find their way to championship teams.
by Troy Aikman Sucks on Aug 23, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty cool
switch Sage with Carr;
Barden is def on the team;
you probably have too many CBs, we’re probably going to just do a lot of 3 safety sets in our nickel coverage;
I think dillard doesn’t make it
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Nice list
I’d take Carr over Sage, DScott over Ware, no Cordle (Boothe can handle it).
Glad you kept Dodge.
Guess I’d keep Herzlich as the Chase ST specialist role
Keeping Cordle till Koets comes back.
Yeah, Carr vs Sage, I just put in somebody haha, they’re both interchangeable right now.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
We can hide Herzlich on PS
PUP Barden
We can spend a bit on a one year deal for a corner as TT won’t count on cap and Sage will be leaving
I doubt it
I think he’d get picked up in a heartbeat, if only for the story, but he’s flashed enough, especially last night, I’d rather cut one of the other ones, but that’s me.
Agreed.
Let’s not forget he’s not 100% back to his all ACC ways yet. This guy is a monster, and he’s showing it. He’s proven he was an elite LB in college, and what he’s doing right now, not 100% only means he’s going to get better, and right now, him, Jones and Paysinger have been our best LBs.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
To me there's the potential
that Herzlich could be starting for this team in a year or 2. I don’t think Tracy would ever be more than a situational pass rusher. I gotta keep the guy that has A) shown more to this point in the games and B) Has the bigger upside to contribute to this team.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
This
Herzlich may never become more than Chase Blackburn, but with him he has the potential to be the best linebacker on the team, and if things don’t pan out he can be a solid role player and an inspirational player on the team. Adrian Tracy is just another pass rusher on a team full of pass rushers.
by Troy Aikman Sucks on Aug 23, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly don't think he makes it to PS.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
What about Kyle Wilson?
The Jets have Revis and Cromartie so they might be willing to deal Wilson. They need a pass rusher- Clint Sintim? Clint Sintim and someone else (rosenfels?) for Wilson? Do you think they would ask for more?
no he's a corner
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
for the same reason the Giants weren't cutting or trading Ross when everyone was healthy
they’re not trading Wilson. Players can go down in a hurry in the NFL and I doubt that the Jets, after seeing what the Giants are going through, are doing anything like that.
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by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
They just signed Maybin as a pass rusher.
And he actually looked good on Sunday, had a sack. They won’t do it.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Antrel Rolle
is apparently willing to play corner. Perhaps Kenny Phillips moves over to free safety leaving Deon Grant and Tyler Sash to compete for the starting job on the strongs side.
THIS
just suggested the same thing to my cousin.
by eyerish9299 on Aug 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Rolle was a corner when he came into the league.
May see him inside the numbers, down in the box with 3 or 4 WR sets.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
So I looked through all of the comments, because im late on this thread,
just to make sure this guy hasn’t been mentioned. I have not seen his name yet so I’ll throw it out there. I noticed that a former Giants cornerback is a free agent. How about re-signing Kevin Dockery?
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 23, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
Wouldn't mind bringing him considering what else is there
But I would not trust him as the nickel cornerback. Hayden I can accept as a stopgap as a nickel corner, but Dockery shouldn’t be anything more than a 4th cornerback for this team right now.
by Troy Aikman Sucks on Aug 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Stillers, right?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
yup.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Prince will end up on the PUP to start the season...
Which may give a mit more flex to the mix.
I hate to say this
But prince only practiced two times and when he comes back he is going to step into the season as a main cog coming off a brokent foot. I hope I am wrong but I don’t think he is going to add much this year.
Side not Osi for Courtland Finnegan?
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, the mix will change...
but I don’t see Prince being a major factor at this point, particularly for the first 3/4’s of the season. He’ll need to work into being active again, and as you say, he didn’t practice either, so I think it may be a tad optomistic to think he’ll pop up in week seven (or before) and be a force at corner.
Regarding your proposed trade, God I hope not! As much as I think Osi has been a pain in the butt with his mishandling of his situation, when he plays he’s a force. Finnegan isn’t the kind of player I want to see in blue, isn’t that good of a corner, and his thugishness makes him a liability. I also can’t see TC beeming his usual broad smile when Finnegan would start picking up the penalties.
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