Giants 41, Bears 13: That's Much Better
by Ed Valentine on Aug 22, 2011 11:42 PM EDT
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PrintThe New York Giants were looking for improvement in their second preseason game, following a 20-10 loss to Carolina. They found it Monday night with a 41-13 victory over the Chicago Bears.
All of the good things -- better offense, an interception by Mark Herzlich, a 97-yard run by Da'Rel Scott, much-improved play on special teams -- were overwhelmed, however, by the night's bad news. That, of course, was the season-ending injury to starting cornerback Terrell Thomas.
Thomas went down with a torn ACL while on a blitz late in the first half. He was able to walk off the field, but coach Tom Coughlin gave the bad news to ESPN sideline reporter Suzy Kolber when the second half began.
Who were you guys impressed with? At first glance, I loved the work done by Aaron Ross, Greg Jones, Herzlich, Devin Thomas, Victor Cruz and both Matt Dodge and Steve Weatherford.
Back with more in the morning.
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Ross
came back and played a solid game. What was he thinking on the reception by Hester early in the game? Hester is down but Ross doesn’t touch him!
Ross played well overall
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Witherspoon
What happened to Witherspoon? He was taken off the field on the cart.
atleast a sprained MCL
more in the morning
such a bad day for the CBs
+1
sooooo much better
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
Garafalo says
its a sprained MCL
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 22, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah missed that part..
this is fantastic
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 22, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I tore my MCL a few years ago
clean tear. The knee is still not right all the time.
I didn’t have surgery, just healing and rehab, so nothing like the treatment these guys get.
But still, it would be better to break a bone for an athlete.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Yeah
plus it usually takes 2 years to fully recover from that injury so TT won’t be the same till 2013.
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 22, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
TT tore his ACL, not MCL
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
same injury that KP had if I'm not mistaken
and he wasn’t the same last year.
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 22, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
my point is
ACL or MCL both take 2 years to fully recover.
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 23, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
An MCL could be career ending
Yes, the ACL will take some time to recover from but Hixon had one last year and looks good now. Of course it depends on the extent of the tear but a full recovery after one year for an ACL is not out of the question
True
it does depend on the extent of the tear, but Hixon suffered the injury around May last year so has had some extra time to recover. Hopefully TT can be close to 100% next year.
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 23, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
acls do not heal on their own
the ligament must be replaced via reconstructive surgery—I had this procedure done after tearing my acl in my final college football game—most mcl injuries do not require surgery and actually do heal on their own. It is my understanding that MCL recovery time is much quicker becuase you do not have to incorporate a brand new piece of tissue into your knee.
MCL is what Jacobs played with the whole season in 2009
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Yeesh
That’s Johnson, Amukamara, Thomas and now Witherspoon we’ve lost.
How will Webster get injured?? Falling down a flight of stairs??
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Well
we are playing the Jets this weekend so keep an eye out on one of their assistants.
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 22, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TT Injury hurts, and Witherspoon doesn't look good either
Tough, tough night.
As soon as Thomas walked off and I saw him throw his wrist band I knew he knew it was bad, whatever it was. So, I thought, Witherspoon has been looking good, we have some more depth left there.
And then Witherspoon is carted off.
We’re gonna need a bigger boat. I mean, some FA depth come cut days.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Coates almost looked like a player.
If Coates can block and catch we may have 2 1,000 yard rushers
CD
by Snead to Tucker on Aug 22, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
back to Ed's post, I took notes on every play of the game.
Some real positives. Just hard to focus on that right now, and I need to crash.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Webster & KP
Some miscommunication between them. Webster was burned twice by long passes.
I have more confidence in Ross than Webster. Webster hasn’t played well since the Superbowl run.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Man, who will win the punter job
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
I love TT
but people need to step up. This is football and injuries happen to everyone. The difference comes on how you handle them. I loved the show that the Giants put on tonight because it eased concerns about our poor ST play. Herzlich looked good and that is always welcome news to hear and Da’rell Scott sure can run. I have to say that the player of the game though is Devin Thomas. He had himself a day. Goff, Ross, Ham, and Baas also stood out for me. Good game for the Giants.
"Kick ass. pop champagne. And get some ho's"-Hideki Matsui
by Livestrong77nyy on Aug 22, 2011 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
Da'Rel Scott
97 yard run after almost falling in the EZ
Hey guys
I know we hate each other when it comes to playing football. I have to put that aside for a minute though. I just heard what happened to Terrell Thomas. Thats a tough break. He is gonna be tough to replace. Lets just hope he has a speedy recovery. Lets just hope there are no more serious injuries.
by greenage on Aug 22, 2011 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Thanks green
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
Thanks greenage..i don't hate the jets,if not us,you
We need all our DE’s to be healthy
Opposing passers will be made miserable,seasons ruined
there may be no excuses given,only Mouts Smashed
Which LB's make the cut?
Starters: Kiwi Goff Boley
Adrian Tracy Greg Jones Sintim Herzlich
Maybe keep Sintim if we PUP Osi..Thats it..PUP Osi!
Scout team:Paysinger
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 23, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
ppreciate it green
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Meaningful injury in a meaningless game
Nothing pisses me off more, plus this is starting to remind me of our safeties in 09. I know were not that bad at that position yet but it still bothers me
I was happy with special teams mostly. Its might be the first time or STs looked not just competent, but actually good in years. Lets hope that keeps up
"The last proclamation out of Philly that meant anything was a Declaration in 1776"
"This is great. We usually get to play two regular season games before people tell us we aren't worth a s***." - Pat Hanlon the Twitter Champion
Agreed completely.
Retaliation is related to nature and instinct, not to law. Law, by definition, cannot obey the same rules as nature. - Albert Camus
off topic but jason sehorn anyone?
by wrxsti28 on Aug 23, 2011 12:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But T2 was playing defense
Not doing something stupid (returning a KO). I will never forgive Fassel for that stupid move.
Reese
comes out smelling like rose for drafting Prince even though he won’t return till mid-season.
And for re-signing Grant.
Retaliation is related to nature and instinct, not to law. Law, by definition, cannot obey the same rules as nature. - Albert Camus
Prince was a no-brainer.
Best guy left on the board.
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
by Cup Noodles on Aug 22, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Give Reese credit!
I’m sure there are a lot of Giants fans who didn’t like the pick but now love it.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 23, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
We need to address the TE
This isn’t gonna fly come regular season
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
no targets for Beckum, and I didn't really get to see his blocking.
Will have to go back to tape for that.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Beckum
didnt do anything because eli wouldnt look to him. beckum was wide open all game and eli wouldnt give him the ball because he doesnt trust him which is a big problem
he actually blocked quite well.
it was obvious that they weren’t throwing him the ball and since its merely a scrimmage, they were working n what he doesn’t do well, blocking. And i thought he held up nicely on more then a few plays.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
+1
It’s fairly obvious the coaches aren’t going to throw him the ball until he’s earned his touches, i.e., he can block. They know he’s open, they know he’s a weapon as a WR, but they want to make him earn his touches in this offense. I like it. He’ll be there come regular season.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
by Cup Noodles on Aug 22, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
But who’s out there at this point?
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
Beckum made no catches but was drawing safeties all night
he gets a solid B for the game, would’ve been much better if they threw to him
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I was wondering where Bekum was.
Nicks was drawing double teams as well. And MM took advantage and got open a few times.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Running game looked good, plus. . .
not much of any involvement for Beckum or the TE’s other than Coats in garbage time.
FB blocking was spotty, though I’m glad to see the run open up as well as it did.
Baas had a block on a screen to Bradshaw where I swear he took down three guys.
Tackiling was much better, with a few exceptions.
Ross played very nice man coverage, bump and run, which is his strength.
Greg Jones was around the ball plenty, and not just for that punt block.
Cruz made some nice plays after a drop early, though KG tore him up for making a bad read and running the wrong route. Still, he showed some success, and while Devin Thomas and Hixon also did well, the competition for the #3 WR is still percolating nicely. JJ12 had a drop on a ball knocked out opf his hands that would have been a nice catch but still it should have been secured and hauled in.
Ok, that’s a quick start from my game notes.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Hynoski
so far I haven’t been too impressed. I realize he had limited camp and it’s only the 2nd preseason game.
I'd like to see them give Hynoski more snaps at FB with the 1's
and let Pascoe concentrate on TE a bit more, insed of him having to switch back and forth.
Bear was very overmatched on at least one play by Peppers. And with a weak blocking TE in Beckum, we really need a solid presence at FB.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Tackles are overwhelmed by Peppers
If a Tight end is taking a DE one on one, something’s wrong with the scheme
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Not impressed either from what I saw.
He didn’t do a good job lead-blocking but Chucky from ESPN was acting like he did a great job. The replay showed.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 23, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Giants played big tonight
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Herzlich..
The new Chase Blackburn?
Team Juggernaut: Jacobs, Hynoski. No one is safe
we need steve smith. underrated third down receiver. losing son-in-law (o’hara) is going to suck. i think we should have let kiwanuka go and resigned osi. however, since osi doesn’t want to be there, we should trade him for asanti
What happened to that guy
I never think that there's something I can't do, whether it's beating my opponent one on one or practicing another hour because something about my game is just not right. - Magic
by Cup Noodles on Aug 23, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
special teams yes..
I hope not as a lb
by wrxsti28 on Aug 23, 2011 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope
That’s Williams (#57)
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Williams did some decent coverage at the goal line
to help get in just enough of the way for the pass to be dumped too low and off target for the receiver to catch it.
He small for the run, but he shows some nice coverage potential at LB.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
I was a little surprised we did not get more pressure on Cutler
what with their inexperienced line and the huge number of sacks they gave up last year.
We had some hurries, and JPP seemed to have more than Tuck, who seemed to have a little trouble with Carimi the rookie.
Got some penetration by the DT’s too at times, though we got beat by a bunch of screens for good yardage. Not sure if we’re over pursuing or what.
Still, I expected more sack action from our D-line.
Even before TT was hurt, we had some zone breakdowns in the secondary between Webster and KP, leading to big pass plays. I know that’s the Martz bread and butter, but with how much we got beat that way last year, that needs more work. Losing TT and maybe Witherspoon makes that even more of a priority to address, somehow.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
off topic again but
Tyron smith for the cowboys is going to give trouble to tuck this year. He’s a beast.
by wrxsti28 on Aug 23, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you got it mixed up
Tuck will give trouble to Tyron this year. TUCK’s a beast.
"I'm not superstitious but i am a little stitious" - Eli Manning
by Giants Fly High on Aug 23, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who
Has he played a regular season game?
by Late for Dinner on Aug 23, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
His footwork was awful on Sunday night
Even Chris Collinsworth could see that.
I can see Tuck having a field day with him.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 23, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Tuck is gonna treat him like a rag doll
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 23, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Naw man
There was no break down. Got caught in wrong defense for the play. Giants were in a pure cover 2 zone. Web had thr flat and kp had deep half. TE ran a seam keeping kp occupied and webster did best he could. You cant shut down every single play. Sometimes you get caught in wrong defense. Go look at that play again 3:27 in first quarter. Secondary no miscommunications. Of course we can never know for sure but execution wise you can’t be disappointed tonight.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Reply meant for AJ in VA
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 12:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't answer you truthfully.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 12:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
JPP
looks more filled out this year. On a couple plays I thought he was Tuck until I saw the numbers. Same build, same posture, and that same funny Tuck walk.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
He added 15 pounds of pure muscle in the offseason.
So yes, you are correct.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Johnson, Prince, Thomas, and WItherspoon.
We came into the season with 6 corners. That position was a strength. Now we have 2 and its kind of a weakness.
Any chance we bring someone in?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Reese said they're definitely going to look for help
There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet
I'm looking
Randall Gay, Kelvin Hayden, Brian Williams, Lito Sheppard, Morgan Trent. Bengals fans liked Trent. I’d put Gay at the top of this bunch.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Supposedly
has been injured and hasn’t passed a physical for two teams
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Nobody's mentioning
how disappointing Manningham was. I counted 3 drops on Eli and no YAC. Seemed to go down easy.
Honestly more "concerning"
Is how terribly inaccurate Eli was. Alas I’m not actually concerned because he has proven he gets it done when the games count.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 12:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the one to Nicks in the first quarter
stood out to me the most. that wasn’t even close
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
Manningham
has to got to hold onto the ball.
Ross had a solid game. Tight end is a huge concern and hopefully we can find another serviceable corner
The staggering stupidity of this coaching staff continues to be on full display.
You’ve just lost Thomas. Johnson is gone, Prince is out. And now you let Witherspoon go out and field a punt in a meaningless game? Honestly, how STUPID do these guys have to be? How do they still have jobs? It is utterly, head-shakingly, astounding how dumb our coaching staff is.
It reminds me of when they had Nicks return a kickoff in the GB game
It’s as if we hadn’t lost enough WRs to injury.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Yes
That was absolutely moronic. You already know that Hixon is an excellent punt returner, and Jernigan showed he can at least catch the ball without fumbling. There was no need for your probable season opening slot corner to be fielding punts.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 23, 2011 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Boggles the mind
how the idiot who made that call on Witherspoon is still employed.
That's what I thought. I was yelling at my tv
“Why the flying f—— is Witherspoon out receiving punts?”
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Because even with thr injury he isn't
A lock to make the team. Witherspoon wants to be out there to compete for a roster spot. If our season hangs on Witherspoon’s health…we’re beyond screwed.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 1:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Well I figured
they knew Thomas’ condition as of halftime.
They now currently have Webster, Ross, Coe, Witherspoon as their DBs with Prince on PUP. They really couldn’t afford to have the nickel cornerback returning punts in a preseason game.
I agree with nygmen123 on this one. Just ridiculous.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Never mind
blitzing your number 1 corner with 30 seconds left in the half. Your corner? When you’ve lost two corners already? Your corner????
Injuries are part of the game
but dumb decisions have no place
Kudos and Wet Willies
Kudos
Greg Jones
Will Beatty
Spencer Paysinger (holy shit what a game he had)
Mark Herzlich
Justin Trattou
Jonathon Goff
Rocky Bernard
Domenik Hixon
Da’Rel Scott
Brandon Jacobs
Ahmad Bradshaw
Aaron Ross
David Carr
Matt Dodge
Steve Weatherford
David Baas
Kwillies
Mario Manningham
Michael Coe
Wet Willies
Eli Manning
Hakeem Nicks
Travis Beckum
Marvin Austin
Bear Pascoe
Giants Coaching Staff
Giants Coaching Staff
Giants Coaching Staff
Giants Coaching Staff
Team Intervention:
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by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions
+1 on the coaching staff
mainly TC, for having his newly anointed nickel back returning punts in the 3rd quarter of a meaningless game….first guessed by me btw.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
so much rage.
so much sorrow.
Good day for the LBzez, tho.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's something
i guess………………………
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
forgot a big ass kudos
to Devin Thomas. Big ups.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
and a big ass wet willie
to Kenny Phillips.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Trattou
was stood up by a TE a couple of times. I did not like his play.
"Kick ass. pop champagne. And get some ho's"-Hideki Matsui
by Livestrong77nyy on Aug 23, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He was on and off
but I gave him kudos because when he was on, he was in the backfield a number of times.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
the coaching staff
deserves a wet willie after every game, win or lose
Travis Beckum shouldn’t even have a job right now. Absolutely worthless.
Great job Reese, thinking that we won’t need a legit starting TE to play a 16 game season with. Most overrated GM ever
by MrDollarBills on Aug 23, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL at Beckum being "worthless"
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
ea you def. didn't watch Beckum play
You just assumed cuz he didn’t catch any passes he’s worthless. Nice insight.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Well said!
He block well and I think that’s what Coughlin wanted to see. They know he can catch the ball and get open.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 23, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't overvalue witherspoon
We will almost definitely be picking up a cb to be our nickel until prince returns. Again he still has to compete for a spot.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 1:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Don't overvalue witherspoon
We will almost definitely be picking up a cb to be our nickel until prince returns. Again he still has to compete for a spot.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 1:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I know. But still.
You have Devin Thomas, Jerrel Jernigan, Domenik Hixon, Da’Rel Scott all as potential punt returners. W.T.F.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
it made no sense to me at the time
i know bigbluethruandthru was arguing that the head coach is too far removed from personnel decisions in preseason games to be blamed, but i boil it down to this: if a schlub sitting on his couch like me, notices that it might not be a good idea to have our now 3rd string CB returning meaningless punts, why didn’t our all seeing leader notice that? i understand you come into these games with a preset gameplan(starters play 25-30 snaps, Witherspoon will spell Jernigan for punts, etc) but it’s times like that where you need to audible man!
not pleased with that miscue by the coaching staff.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
dre....I was literally yelling.
Knowing our luck, I was just like.
“FAIR CATCH MOTHER F_______, FAIR CATCH IT! PLEASE!”
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Stop trolling.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont know about anyone else, but ive been kinda dissapointed with Kiwi at LBer.
I wonder if we wouldnt be better moving Goff to Sam and playing Jones at the Mike. Or keep Goff at Middle and play Herzlich at the Sam. ( although I do think it is a little early to put Herz in the starting lineup)
Just " thinking out loud" but I believe that Kiwi is better suited at DE. and Sintim is better suited on another team.
too soon
Jones has a great motor, but throwing a rookie in the fire like that?….especially when Goff seems to be playing the most aware ball of his career. why tinker with what’s working.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
I liked what I saw out of Kiwi today
mostly as the Joker. He wasn’t playing too much base SAM, but was all around. Tonight, even though Herzlich and Jones forced turnovers, Paysinger was the most impressive linebacker.
Jones most definitely forces Dillard’s hand, but I don’t know if Herzlich makes the team still. Reese is not giving up on Sintim.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
it's going to be tough with the decisions to make with these LBz
we’ll most certainly be giving up a good LB and good DL that someone else will pick up :(
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
I agree...I think they will keep all of the new guys and cut one of the...
second year or third year players. They should keep Jones, Herzlich, and Paysinger.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 23, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
don't worry about it too much
Perry didn’t show all of our hand on Defense as Preseason goes…
and Kiwi was a monster the first few games last year in this Defensive scheme
he’ll be alright, I’m just happy he’s not injured.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
any tracy sightings tonight?
i tried to look out for him, but honestly after TT went down, my heart wasn’t in it like it should’ve been.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
same re: TT
Tracy was there, but wasn’t really a huge force. He got one pressure I think.
I forgot to mention one player that really disappointed me today. Kenny Phillips. The dude looked like ass. He messed up coverages, took wrong angles, and got completely turned around on that run by Matt Forte early in the game.
Team Intervention:
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jason Pierre-Paul
Will Beatty
Justin Trattou
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
i said a year ago
we’re anointing KP a star way too early. not saying he won’t, but he still got a long way to go.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
He came to camp overweight
Maybe the extra weight is hurting him on plays.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
think that was Rolle
Who took a bad angle at Forte. I was disappointed it was either of them to be honest.
by Eli10 on Aug 23, 2011 7:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rolle
took the awful angle on the long run that Tuck, the opposite end made the tackle on. Everyone should play like Tuck. The play was a run away from him, and he made the tackle 40-50 yards down field. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that, the opposite side DE making the tackle on a 50 yard run. Incredible.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
In preseason too!
It was amazing. Love Tuck
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
It was a screen and it was antrel
Forte had no big runs.
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oops everyone corrected that already
AMEN FOR THE GMEN!
by WilliePonder on Aug 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Screen. My mistake, thank you.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
he had a roughing tha passer penalty
didn’t focus to closely on the LB play, though, during live game. Plus, during second half, ESPN had so many interviews it was hard to see the personnel packages for a lot of plays.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
One question...
Why when you lose your best CB (TT), do you start your Best Potential CB (Withersoon) on Punt Return?
by RagingBattleAxe on Aug 23, 2011 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so much respect for TT
but this is just another reminder why you should always draft the best player available during the NFL draft. positions of strength can change to positions of weakness in a heartbeat. i’m glad our GM usually follows the best player available strategy
JR is good for that...
where are we getting CB help from?
Opposing passers will be made miserable,seasons ruined
there may be no excuses given,only Mouts Smashed
Which LB's make the cut?
Starters: Kiwi Goff Boley Greg Jones Herzlich Jaiquan Williams(by the skin of his teeth)Sweet Rookie LB's!
Goodbye Sintim
PUP Osi
Scout team:Paysinger/Tracy
do you guys expect the giants to go look for a potential cb?
i never was huge on T2 but after actually watching him i can say hes one of my favorite giants, this is a huge blow and i hope him the best
Sorry to hear about TT
That’s a shame he was one of your better corners and you hate to see guys go down with season ending injuries. I hope you guys can get an adequate replacement.
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Lito Shepard brother!
yeah right . . .who knows what sucks about this injury is Prince Akumura has been out and our other CB that would be the nickle got hurt last night too, probabbly a torn MCL. I get injuries happen but it always seems like with the Giants they get killed at one position. CB this year, WR last year, DEs in 06.
O-LINE 2010
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Six Words
Devin Freaking Thomas
Greg Freaking Jones
Holy crap, we haven’t had a kick or punt returner like that since Hixon was doing it, but even so, Thomas has another gear or something
Jones was always around the ball. If he winds up getting cut, I won’t be happy about it
Actually Herzlich is a beast too…..and plays like a man possessed, which is understandable.
And Jacobs….he looks as good as he’s looked in a while
Victor and Hixon also….heck, aside from the offense looking lousy early on and the defense giving up a few big pass plays, we looked pretty damn good
How could Greg Jones get cut?
I can’t even see a process that makes it possible, not to mention likely.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Giants won't be that Stupid to cut Greg Jones.
He plays the same way he played in college. He has a great nose for the ball and he makes plays. This guy is going to be the next great Giants LB.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 23, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
do any of you
remember Butch Woolfolk?
when Manningham runs with the ball, he reminds me of that guy….the shimmying back and forth and not running forward
Hmmm...
- How many lemmings jumped after the injuries today?
- How many lemmings know our team better than our coaches?
- How many lemmings were actually wondering why certain people were still on the field before they were injured?
My guesses are
- not enough
- none
- very slight possibly one, but more than likely, none
Now we are certain to not make the playlets playoffs or the superblow superbowl.
Go on lemmings, the bridge is right there. Jump, but don't come back.
Ross is healthy and better.
It’s sad to see TT go down but it’s an opportunity for Ross to get his job back. He played very well. Hopefully he can stay healthy for the whole season.
If I may be so bold (I realize it's preseason)
Game Balls from me:
Herzlich
Ross
Eli
Devin Thomas
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
Was there
and my one gripe from the game was kick coverage at the start. They missed too many tackles where the ball should have been down at the 10 and the returner would break contain and make a play. I like the aggression but they need to do a better job of wrapping up.
May Doug Marrone bless you and keep you.
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