New York Giants Notes: Rich Seubert, David Carr, Travis Beckum And More

by Ed Valentine on Aug 20, 2011 7:00 AM EDT in New York Giants News

Here are some New York Giants notes for you on this Saturday morning, the final day of the training camp portion of the 2011 season. That also means last chance for the public to watch practice, so get to the Timex Performance Center for 1:30 if you want to take in a practice.

Seubert expects to return to football in two months

Despite having already returned to football after a difficult leg injury in 2003, Seubert said he cannot just give up.

"It’s just me. I can’t just walk away from [it]. I can’t let this say I’m done," he said. "If this wants to say I’m done, fine, but I’m going to give it everything I have to prove this ain’t going to end it. We’ll see."

Seubert added that he is a "Giant for life." He is rehabbing in Waldwick and Oakland.

Seubert was at the Timex Performance Center to pick up an award from another fan website whose name shall not be mentioned.

Tynes might miss Bears with sore thigh - Giants Blog - ESPN New York
Tynes told reporters he is not concerned about the presence of Rhys Lloyd on the roster.

"I think that they just signed a kicker to play Monday night, that's all I think," Tynes said. "I'm not worried. I think I've performed pretty well here."

Snee erasing 'foolish' ink - NYPOST.com

"I've never really cared for it," he said. "Now that I'm a father of three and bring my kids to the local pool, I don't want kids being scared and looking at the tattoo. It has no meaning to me. It's just not me. It was time. I knew if I waited any longer I'd be 40 and it would still be there."

Speaking as 29-year-old father of three young boys, Snee said, "I'm going to stay away from the tats and tell my kids they're not getting any either. My parents, they would be there for advice, but they would never tell us, they would let us figure things out for ourselves. My wife and I are a little sterner, a little more aggressive with that."

Lions defensive coordinator: Nnamdi Asomugha is one-trick pony | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, this year's top free agent, recently signed a five-year, $60-million contract with Philadelphia. Not bad for a guy who doesn't tackle, according to Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham.

On Wednesday, Cunningham explained how small cornerbacks get away with rough play on big receivers like Calvin Johnson. When someone suggested the corners need to get bigger, Cunningham cited Asomugha, who is 6-feet-2, 210 pounds.

"The problem is the way the rules are the 6-2 guys can't play," Cunningham said. "You've got one guy in the league, Nnamdi, and all he does is press. You ever see him make a tackle? He presses the wide receiver, and he's great at it. But there's more to playing DB than just pressing wide receivers."

Cunningham can talk all he wants. Detroit doesn't have to face Asomugha twice this season.

David Carr on familiar turf with Giants, in battle to resume old role | NJ.com
Former backup QB must outplay Sage Rosenfels to earn spot on roster.

Travis Beckum was asked Friday about being yelled at by Kevin Gilbride during practice earlier in the week.

"I messed up a play and obviously with him being the offensive coordinator it is his job to be upset about it. I actually talked to him about it and it was just a miss communication and that's all it was," Beckum said.

Beckum also said he expects to be "moving around" when he is on the field.

"The thing about the NFL is that you pay these guys X amount of dollars to do what they excel at. That is just stating the obvious and I think I read what coach [NIke] Pope said. If anybody has any kind of smarts, why would you want to put a 235-pound tight end against a 290-pound defensive end for the whole game? That is just common sense," Beckum said. "There are plays that they will put you position to do it, yes but as far as every down... Kevin [Boss] was 270 pounds and that's a big difference. I am definitely willing to do it but I think the coaches are just going to put me in the best position to have success and maybe that is just moving around."

Varying reports about veteran defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy. Some folks saying he has already signed with the Giants, others saying he has not signed yet but will do so within the next few days. Either way, seems like another veteran defensive tackle added to the mix by GM Jerry Reese.

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Damn.

If Richie could come back, that would be a great story, he was a true blue collar Giant. As long as he doesn’t go to Eggs, ’Girls, or Jets, I think most of us will be rooting for him.

I hate the Jets, Justin Bieber, and people in general.

by espnsucks on Aug 20, 2011 7:13 AM EDT reply actions

Random

Just to settle the “who the #1 team in NY is”, this should be pretty obvious, but have you seen any Giant advertisement for season tickets the last couple of months/year? And you see Rex trying to sell this stuff and all the advertisements.

I hate the Jets, Justin Bieber, and people in general.

by espnsucks on Aug 20, 2011 7:14 AM EDT reply actions

I am curious to know why of all players to use as an example...

Why did Cunningham cite Nnamdi? Do these guys have a history?

Factology! Belief is ignorance.

by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 20, 2011 7:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Cunningham

He coached the chiefs a few years back and played against Nnamdi in the AFC west when he was a raider.

by brandon7 on Aug 20, 2011 8:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Carr

I have always liked Carr and think he got a horrible shot at the NFL. He should have been holding a clip board his first season and instead was playing for an awful expansion team. I thought he played well with us, when he did get to play, and I think he would give us a better back-up than Sage. That of course is my opinion, but I am rooting for Carr to win the spot.

by CCE718 on Aug 20, 2011 7:57 AM EDT reply actions

I agree, but he might be shot now

Have you seen him throw? it’s this weird, shoulder high, half side arm throw now.

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 20, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree with Cunningham.

As good as Nnamdi is… and I wish he played for the Giants, he did only have 18 tackles last year and “1” assist. (not to mention 5 missed tackles). He’s a top 10 cover guy but not a complete player.

So as a Giant fan, the fact that that team outside of Trenton picked up Nnamdi doesn’t overly concern me.

Nnamdi + Samuels – Mikell = Giants running the Ball More

by Snead to Tucker on Aug 20, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions

+1

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions

+2

So what's the Giants' reaction to the Eagles being called "The Dream Team"?
"So were the Patriots (in 2007)."
- Mario Manningham

by xMattex on Aug 21, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions

18 tackles?

That’s like a game for TT. Samuel had more than that (26) and he doesn’t tackle anybody.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 20, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Snee's tattoo

When his wife Kate first saw the tattoo when they were dating at Boston College, her reaction, Snee said, was, “Oh, what is that?”

I wonder if she said it while doing this classic Coughlin pose:

OH COME ON, WHAT IS THAT?

your mom goes to college

by Oppenheimer919 on Aug 20, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs

That...is...HILARIOUS!

Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.

by nywins42 on Aug 20, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions

rec'd

great shot

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Aug 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Why do we need Eli when we have Carr? Carr is a better leader and better QB overall.

In my opinion, we should trade Eli for draft picks, and then we will make the playlets and win the superblow for sure. After that, we need to get rid of clawfin and bring in bill coward. We will be set for years then. We could get plax and shockey back too. Why not? This season is already doomed. I mean, we lost a preseason game!!!! How can we win in the regular season if we can’t even win a preseason! And thanks JR for drafting someone with a broken foot. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??? You are killing the team!!!

I kid. I kid.

Go on lemmings, the bridge is right there. Jump, but don't come back.

by cw_mc_05 on Aug 20, 2011 8:48 AM EDT reply actions

you had me for a few seconds

good one

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 20, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

You got me too on that one.

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Aug 21, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions

You forgot to look for local talent. You need a blimp ride haha

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Aug 21, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Nike Pope

I like it!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Aug 20, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions

Roster Cut Down

From the AP
The NFL informed all 32 teams on Friday that they need to reduce their rosters to 80 players by 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday, Aug. 30.

The league had considered allowing teams to keep their rosters at 90 until Sept. 3, when they have to cut them to 53.

That would have flooded the open market with nearly 1,200 players, the vast majority of whom would have been subject to the waiver wire, forcing teams to scramble for an unprecedented deluge of talent.

Usually, the first cut is to 75 players. So, as teams continue to play catch-up from the long lockout, they’ll get to take a closer look at a handful of extra players during the final preseason weekend before trimming their rosters to the regular season limit.

From 90-80 on Aug 30…. 10 guys should be fairly easy with no surprises

then 80-53 on Sept 03 …..27 guys on the chopping block plus whoever is on the bubble if JR sees someone he likes on the waiver wire.
Should be fun

You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra

by greg a on Aug 20, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions

gonna be a massive new FA period on Sep 3

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Aug 20, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions

How come we don't give awards to people?

Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.

by nywins42 on Aug 20, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions

I'd give Goodell a signed Mike Vick Eagle's Jersey

for being such a great guy

Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.

by nywins42 on Aug 20, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions

I think he has one

Come on Mike, Philly will actually not have anyone with dog posters blocking the entrances

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 20, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

We dont do bounties.

Let's Go Giants!

by BB1156 on Aug 21, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions

wow. . . Traina suspects Barden out for season

I haven’t heard anyone else suggest this, so it comes as a surprise, even if it’s not based on anything other than a suspicion:

As for Barden, the last word I had on him is that progress has been slow. My gut feeling as of right now is that he’s probably going to miss the entire preseason.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Aug 20, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions

preseason

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions

ROFL. . . serves me right for surfing before coffee

nervermind folks, nothing to see here.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Aug 20, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions

SIgh

You had me panicking.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 20, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions

sheeeeeiiiittt. . . I had me pretty alarmed mah damn self

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Aug 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions

He'll probably end up on the PUP list

Coughlin’s not going to take him into the season with virtually no practice. We’ve got plenty of WRs to give another guy a few weeks to show what he’s got…Coughlin’s patience with him is growing very thin.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions

patience in coughlin is growing thin

if he knows what’s best for HIM (coughlin) …Barden will be playing ASAP.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 20, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

I really think all the noise about Beckum and Barden will die away

I have a strong feeling that Hakeem Nicks and Mario Manningham are going to catch A LOT of balls this year. And Barden is not even practicing he has NO CHANCE to start the season as the #3 WR. None. And barring injuries he’s going to get lost on the depth chart again. Barden is in Coughlin’s dog house and that’s a harder place to escape from than Alcatraz!

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

Linval Joseph was in the "doghouse"

seems to be doing fine. So was Jon Goff. Manningham too.

“Doghouse” apparently means either injured or lower on the depth chart due to more experience players ahead of them.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Joseph and Goff had less competition at their positions. Particularly Goff.

Even Manningham had less WR competition at the time. We are LOADED with with WRs. Everyone is enamored with Barden but there’s no reason Hixon, Jernigen and Devin Thomas can’t beat him out on the depth chart. With the plethera of WRs we have I really don’t see how by the end of the season we are looking at Barden’s numbers and saying he made much of an impact on the season.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions

we're loaded with WRs now?

the third spot is still up for grabs as far as anyone’s concerned. And the point of the “doghouse” thing was previous to this season, all those players were in the same situation as Barden.

Why people hate him, is friggin hilarious. He poses the best set of physical skills on the team at WR…people should be rooting with every cell in their body for him to win the spot. Everyone else competing for the 3rd spot is decent to good, but by and large just a guy. Barden if he wins that spot will make the team unstoppable.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Barden is the JPP of the offense

Give him a bit of time everyone, just a bit of time. If he is a mistake, he was (is) one with a huge upside. We need immediate contributors and projects. We want to be competitive EVERY year, not just this year.

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 20, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions

And by being JPP I mean

Having the physical attributes but not a lot of experience, hopefully becomes a menace in three years. JPP is waaaay ahead on the schedule. But Barden may just be ON schedule. We’ll see.

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 20, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

yeap

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

lets hope KG puts him in a spot where he can do well

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Aug 20, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Coughlin doesn't have that luxury anymore

the problem here is that I just don’t see anyone really making a strong run at that #3 WR position.

of course I like Hixon and Jernigan….but I think Barden is hands down the better player. I have nothing to back this up other than my opinion….and frankly, i don’t think there is much noise about Barden out there at all. In fact, outside of a select few (myself included) not many NYG fans give two shits about him.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 20, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions

I think there are plenty of big Barden fans here...

His name is constantly coming up. But nobody seems to have much faithi in Hixon. Hixon has the experience and Coughlin trusts his veterans first and foremost. I really think the job is Hixon’s to lose. It wasn’t too long ago he started for us for a little while.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm still a Barden believer

He’s a player

"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said

by trueblue63 on Aug 20, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions

he made Cal Poly's qb the easiest job in college sports

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQtlGOBoTNs

by Town on Aug 20, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't want to read too much into Beckum's screw up at practice....

But JR is going to start at TE on the waiver wire list. Bet he gets a good one.

i thought Sage looked good at QB. Does Carr have any trade value?

Bet Seubert wouldn’t go to a Giants rival unless he had no choice.

by scarlet knight on Aug 20, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions

Osi needs to take a long hard look at our TE situation

Because the TE that would be perfect for us is Shockey. But he burnt every bridge he had because he never thought he’d be in a situation that he’s in now. With the worst team in the league and as a back up. If he hadn’t burnt so many bridges, he’d be starting for the Giants right now. A real contender.

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions

To be honest...

I wouldn’t mind bringing Shockey back if we could. He’s still a stud, and not a prancing lightweight like Beckum – who’s got so much “potential”. Yeah, right.

by WideRight! on Aug 20, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

Shockey is on Carolina

and burned too many bridges here.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions

But that was the Accorsi era when the wheels were in motion...

Reese couldn’t even really save him.

So what's the Giants' reaction to the Eagles being called "The Dream Team"?
"So were the Patriots (in 2007)."
- Mario Manningham

by xMattex on Aug 21, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Barden...

Will be on the Injured Reserve Pro Bowl team. I give up on this guy. We have a ton of other guys.

by scarlet knight on Aug 20, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions

you think he'll start over Sinorice?

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions

They can both start on opposite ends, Barden and Sinorice

haven’t heard much from Tiki, is he still working out with Miami?

by scarlet knight on Aug 20, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

Don't league rules require that 50% of all Giant FAs must sign with the Rams?

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions

they expanded that to the eagles as well.

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 20, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Ha ha ha - very true (unfortunately)

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

I predict that game to be our hardest one of the year

Spags is doing an amazing job

I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say

by Spider Lockhart on Aug 20, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

Hixon is probably going to start as the #3. Eli and Coughlin already trust him. Then’s there’s Jernigen. Devin Thomas and Victor Cruz aren’t just going to roll over either. Everyone is so high on Barden (and it’s nice that he’s 6 foot 6)…but he’s not just going to be handed anything at this point. If he’s not ready to start the season he’s going to end up being inactive most weeks at best.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

here's the thing...

I heard this on the radio. Don’t remember who said it, but they said that in 3 WR sets. Hixon would split out and manningham would go to the slot.

Let's Go Giants!!!!

by maculis on Aug 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Hmmm...interesting...

I think Hixon will be on the field a lot. And that will lesson the playing time for Beckum. I’d rather just see Bear on the field more than Beckum.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

This was discussed on Wednesday

The Giants will play the best 3 WRs, whoever they are. So if Jernigan emerges as the #3, then he plays in the slot. If Hixon emerges as the #3, then he goes outside and Manningham goes in the slot in 3-WR sets.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 20, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Beckum ready to best Boss' numbers

NY Daily News

Beckum, who missed last week’s preseason opener, pronounced himself ready to go Friday. The third-year man then added that he should be able to eclipse Boss’ 35catches last season.
“If I take care of my business and be on my P’s and Q’s, I don’t know why I shouldn’t be able to do that – if not better,” he said.

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions

It's the P's and Q's that are the problem

along with the INJ’s. I hope he’s right.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Aug 20, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions

Beckum is making a big statement there: 'I think I can catch slightly more than 2 balls a game!' He's the second coming of Joe Namath...LMAO

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions

errr duh

Boss was a blocking TE.

gawd help us all if KG plans on using Beckum the same way.

like i already said, he’ll be used as a slot WR so if he doesn’t beat those numbers…well shame on you Travis.

TeamJPP

by andiamo708 on Aug 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Get back to me...

when Beckum learns how to block and break a tackle. A wasted draft pick in my opinion.

by WideRight! on Aug 20, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions

beckum is a slot receiver, not big enough to play TE

They can use hixon, jernigan,thomas, cruz, reynaud at that position. They need a big body at TE. are bear and ballard good enough?

by scarlet knight on Aug 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions

+1

I’m really surprised they don’t just make him a WR and be done with it. Is he just way too slow for a WR?

by TNYFBG on Aug 20, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

Everyone is making such a big deal about getting Beckum involved, but there is only one ball to go around. Nicks, Manningham and the running game (and don’t forget Bradshaw caught over 40 balls last year too) are going to be hogging up most of the snaps.
I’d rather see Bear on the field more. Much more likely that Bear can hold onto a few passes than Beckum can block anybody.
And all this notion that Beckum can create “nightmare mismatches” is a bit of hyperbole. There are plenty of quick OLB and safeties in this league that are getting paid big $$$ to cover guys who are better than Beckum.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions

Beckum...

Isn’t fast enough, elusive enough, or got good enough hands to make any kind of mismatch with anyone.

by WideRight! on Aug 20, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

althought it was limited duty

he pretty much proved all of that to not be true last year. He is fast, he is elusive and he does have good enough hands.

Maybe you’re mixing Beckum up with Kevin Boss…who shared all those traits (or lack thereof) last season. Boss was a complete TE. He was big, but fast elusive and surprisingly the hands thing weren’t things that he had.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Well the production so far doesn't agree with you...

Obviously Beckum’s sample is very small but his numbers so far:
21 Receptions 8.1 yds per catch
(to compare for fun Brandon Jacobs has 65 receptions for 7.0 yds per reception)

That is nothing to be impressed with thusfar.

Kevin Boss: 119 receptions 1600 yards 13.4 yards per catch.
13.4 Yards Per Catch….YES I said it twice.
Boss stretched the field although he doesn’t get credit for it. 119 receptions is not a small sample size. 13.4 yards a catch is HUGE for a TE

Here’s the last point:
Tied for fourth among tight ends in the league with 12 receptions of 20+ yards last year.

Boss was no lumbering troll.

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Boss' production doesn't show what sort of athlete he was

he was what he wasm and that was a big lumbering oaf. He seemed nimble, but that was just nimble for an oaf

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but Rorsch...

I’m not comparing Beckum to Boss, Bear, Ballard, or whoever we have left lined up at TE for us. I’m comparing him to what the New York Giants starting TE should be. We are seriously lacking in that department this year, and I really hope you don’t think Beckum is the answer, because he’s going to get mauled…if he ever gets “healthy”.

by WideRight! on Aug 20, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Beckum is not going to be lining up to a T every single time out there

he’ll be moved around.

As for his production, if the Giants coaches get their head out their asses, Beckum will be labeled a “TE” but will put up twice the production Boss had last year.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I personally hope...

he never lines up next to a T, because that’s where he’s weakest.

by WideRight! on Aug 20, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

does it matter?

an OC with a brain bigger then a walnut would figure out how to use that to his advantage

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm...Killdrive's brain < walnut sized brain.

by WideRight! on Aug 20, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

You couldn't be more wrong

"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin

It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!

by GhostDini on Aug 20, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Beckum actually has pretty damn good hands

Don’t think he dropped a single ball last season in his limited opportunities

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me

by wangstu13 on Aug 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions

have you seen Pascoe try to get open or catch the ball?

There’s a reason he was cut at one point. He’s not in Beckum’s class. Beckum also blocked well at times last year and has done so during practice.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 20, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Amen!

by Manningologist on Aug 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions

Barden is on the mend

TheJRob Jeff Roberts
Barden underwent an MRI the other day that showed no bone issues with his ankle. But he’s still on the PUP list.

TheBlueScreen Ralph Vacchiano
WR Ramses Barden wouldn’t put a timetable on his return from PUP, but said he feels it coming “soon”. Had MRI few days ago to check progress