'Friday Five' With Pat Traina
by Ed Valentine on Aug 19, 2011 8:00 AM EDT
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It is Friday, so that means time for our weekly 'Friday Five' Q&A with Pat Traina of Inside Football. Be sure to stop by Pat's site for my answers to her questions.
In Pat's answers this week, we touch on Clint Sintim, the punting competition between Matt Dodge and Steve Weatherford, Eli Manning and more. Follow the jump for all the goodies.
Ed: Several young linebackers seem to be impressing during camp. Jerry Reese is loathe to cut ties with his draft picks (see Sinorice Moss). Yet, do you believe there is a realistic chance that Clint Sintim winds up not making this team?
Pat: I don't think the Giants are going to give up on Sintim just yet, because of where he was drafted. I am however, watching another young linebacker that I think COULD be in danger - too soon to say and I need to see a little bit more before I can make my hunch public. Getting back to Sintim, I think time is starting to run out on him - he needs to show something soon.
Ed: The placekicking situation. Is Rhys Lloyd, in your mind, a placeholder for Lawrence Tynes? Real competition for Tynes? A guy who could be kept on the 53-man just to handle kickoffs?
Pat: You know had this been last year with the kickoff coming from the 30, I might have said there was a chance that they'd keep two kickers, especially after they tried to land Lloyd in the off-season. I think, however, in a perfect scenario, the Giants would love it if Dodge could learn to handle kickoffs and punting so that they can get a little extra value for the guy. With that said, I think this experiment is going to be worth watching as far as Lloyd is able to help improve the kickoff coverage team. If he does, and the injuries don't necessitate making sacrifices, I could see them keeping Lloyd beyond this week.
3. Your take on Eli Manning's comments this week to Michael Kay that he believes he is a top 5 quarterback?
Pat: Seriously, what was he supposed to say? I had no problem with his bravado and if anything, it was a nice change of pace for him considering he's been so boring and predictable with what comes out of his mouth.
Ed: The punting 'competition.' I had assumed that this job would go to Steve Weatherford, but the Giants are making it sound like a 'real' competition. Do you believe Matt Dodge has a real chance to open the regular season as the Giants' punter?
Pat: I do. As I said above, I think in a perfect scenario, the Giants get Dodge's punting straightened out and they let him eventually kickoff. Also, I've noticed that Jerry Reese isn't so quick to part with a draft pick, so I doubt they give up on Dodge after only one season, especially if you take into consideration that he's been victimized by his coverage at times.
Ed: In terms of making progress from Week 1 to Week 2 of the preseason, what should we be hoping to see from the Giants Monday night against the Chicago Bears?
Pat: Improved consistency for starters. I think we'll see the offensive lien communication issues smoothed out (I hope). I am also hoping that special teams straightens its act out, but I don't want to push my luck. (LOL!)
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I think this is TC faking being a regular guy
No sane person would write such a thing.
Or was it KG?
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic as it is when they are always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Aug 19, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I like these Friday Fives.
Ed, Pat, are you guys gonna do the blog talk radio again this season?
I’ll also add that the Dodge Weatherford competition was fun to watch the last game. I’m anxious to see them again the next couple games.
The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.
by Handsome Stranger on Aug 19, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Matt Dodge
He better straighten out this year. Last year was terrible to watch him kill our field position on a consistant basis. And they fluctuate between line drives that go 60 yards that almost assure the coverage won’t get there to tackle the returner for at least 20 yards and ones that go out of bounds 25 yards downfield. He needs to get his crap together.
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
Dodge
Has kicked the ball much more consistently thus far. Don’t be so fast to dismiss him beating out Weatherford. I didn’t think he had a chance when camp started. But, he has kicked well and the Giants hate giving up on guys they have invested a lot of time and effort into.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 19, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Give’s him a leg up in the competition! Especially paired with an accurate but not very strong legged kicker in Tynes.
Go Giants!
Definitely not ready to dismiss him
Just want to see him perform better and it sounds like you are saying he is so that is VERY encouraging…thanks for the update
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
all though inconsistent.....
Dodge did also have some really nice punts last year. I know we expect a rookie punter to be perfect, I mean it just punting the ball right? We let other rookies have growing pains, but not dodge right?
Most rookies
Don’t get to touch the ball 5 times in situations regarding field position, so maybe the expectation is unfair, but the position he plays almost demands perfection.
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
I agree
I agree with this entirely. We give free passes to rookies who have played far worse than Dodge did last year without a second thought. We could have had the best punter in the league out there, unless every single one went out of bounds he still would have looked bad with the terrible coverage we had (and sadly might still have).
by Midnight Blue on Aug 19, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
just look at the game we wont speak of....
he gets the blame for that loss……..when the defense let them walk down the field, and the coverage team didnt even touch him after the ball bounced twice on the turf. Everyone forgets that and blames the whole game on Dodge. He should not of even had to make that punt.
There was plenty of blame to go around in that game
However I would much rather have a consitent directional punter than Dodge. Even when he booms one sometimes he out kicks the coverage and the team get’s a huger return. I hope Dodge get’s cut, and it’s not just because of the Eagles game. I was worried everytime he went back to punt.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
and when we had Feagles
fans complained he had no leg haha
When we had Feagles
The only time I heard complaints was really his last season, when he was at the end. No punter is 100% all the time but I didn’t have to pop tums like candie when he was there.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
what about Fealges rookie year?
the Pats almost cut him….would they of looked foolish?
you are comparing Feagles at the end of his career to Dodge in his first year, that is not fair. Fealges struggled his rookie year
Feagles lasted all of 2 seasons with the Pats
No crime in Dodge only lasting one with us. That does not mean Dodge won’t have a long NFL career. It just means that we are trying to win now and need a more consistant punter. Remeber our ST coverage is already suspect, it would be nice if we didn’t have an adventure from our punter.
I was not comparing Feagles to Dodge at all, I was responding to BiBlue82’s statement that fans were complaining about Feagles leg strength
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely agree with you there
Dodge gets all the blame when he didn’t deserve it because, as you said, he shouldn’t even be making that punt.
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
look where he was punting from...
Feagles even said that would of been a tough punt for him to get out of bounds
Forget that game
How about all the other bungles Dodge made during last season. Weathford is consistant and can directional kick, Dodge you don’t know what your getting from him. Since our ST coach is back I don’t think punt coverage is going to be that good, so we need a punter who is automatic not an adventure back therer.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Steve Weatherford, = hang time
something our coverage team sucks needs badly!!
Im still seeing line drives from Dodge.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Didn’t feel like they were doing any better for one over the other to me. Or if so it wasn’t noticeable enough to make a difference.
by Midnight Blue on Aug 19, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed
plus SW has a good track record, the same cant be said for Dodge.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Other Bungles
Exactly. Don’t forget that besides the poor punting, he can’t even catch a snap cleanly. The guy has got to go. SW must beat him out. Giants have a contending team now. All season long last year, the question was whether it was possible Dodge would cost us a chance at playoffs or in playoffs, and he absolutely did. I absolutely believe he cost us at least one victory during the season with the fallout from the bad punting (field position battle), and Giants missed playoffs by 1 game. If Giants are serious about winning a SB, this guy can not be our punter. Period.
by NYStateofMind on Aug 20, 2011 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions
II think the idea is that he will improve
of course if he is still playing like 2010 then Weatherford will easily win the job.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 20, 2011 4:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh Great
Im still hoping the Dodge expeirment is over this year.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I may be the one of the only guys here
who is open to and comfortable with Dodge winning the job this year.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
I think there are a lot more Dodge supporters than you think
I think those of us that want Dodge out of here are in the minority.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm torn on this one
Another way of saying I’m OK with what ever TC decides. I think Weatherford edges him out. As Late pointed out, the lack of good ST really works against Dodge. If these young guys start palying punt returns better maybe TC decides he can gamble on Dodge for a better long term investment ( and possible KO guy). I think I prefer the upside of Dodge, but my gut says TC goes for the sureer thing in Weatherford at cut down time.
Go Giants!
But what would Dodge do in REAL games???
Hopefully they can tell enough by watching them both in practice. Because even though he can look good in a preseason game doesn’t mean he won’t choke and punt it right down the middle when it counts in December. They need a veteran and top-notch punter as much as they punt. And they punt A LOT!!!
by jfostersbnation on Aug 19, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont mind the idea of keeping him
but the ice should be about as thin as ice gets this preseason. No reasons to screw around taking chances when you have a guy who has proven himself to be consistent on the roster.
your mom goes to college
by Oppenheimer919 on Aug 19, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
This year's 35 Yard-line KO rule ...
is definitely going to be a huge strategic change. Don’t think the answer is going for touchbacks, though.
I’d like to see the Giants go for higher kick-offs down to the 0-5 yard line (which I think Tynes can do), and with 5 yards shorter for the coverage guys to run, you can actually get a lot of opponent possessions starting inside the 20. If the other team has a stellar returner, then you just try for the touchback.
D’s will have to really be aggressive early on, and go for the 3-and-out right away (even with a little gambling). The resulting field position game could make it a bit like “make-it-take-it” in basketball. This may also play into the G-Men’s strenths.
Considering our ST have been putrid
i think the new rule might actually help us.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering how bad our coverage is
I’d just kick it out of the end zone and not get too cute. I can already see week 1 one of those “kick it high to the 5” kicks turning into a line drive to the 10 and being run back on us. Knowing the Giants it will come in a game where our defense is playing stellar.
Not a Bad Idea Actually
Good point about shorter distance for coverage team to run. Nice high kick could really push team back. Against our D that could be an issue. Although a safe touchback strategy isn’t all that bad either. Making your opponent drive 80 yards all the time is not a bad thing.
by NYStateofMind on Aug 20, 2011 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions
For the Record Sincore Moss was not a JR pick
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe he was
People always forget Reese was with the organization before he was GM. He might have been a supporter of Moss.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Moss
I have to believe that is right, that JR was a big Moss guy. No other reason the Giants kept him around as long as they did.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 19, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Moss
brought the orange wedges to practice
I heard he stired up a mean Gatoraid punch too.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
HA
Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 19, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
wasn't JR
head of college scouting under the Accorsi adminstration?
Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 19, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Director of Player Personnel
Which is basically the same thing. You could call it Assistant GM – Scouting and Player Evaluation.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
gotcha
I knew he had a big role with the organization before he was GM, just forgot what his title was. He most likey had a hand in drafting guys like Kiwi, Webster ,Moss (lol)
Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 19, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Cutting Draft picks
The only thing that the GM should be concerned with is putting the best team possible on the field. If that means keeping UFAs instead of draft picks, then they need to get over their ego and do the right thing.
If an UFA is consistantly performing better than a draft pick, then the GM needs to admit “sooner rather than later” that he made a bad decision and move on from it. It’s not easy to do, but the best GM’s do have that ability.
My guess
I am however, watching another young linebacker that I think COULD be in danger – too soon to say and I need to see a little bit more before I can make my hunch public
is she’s talking about Dillard.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
And correct me if I'm wrong
But he would be PS eligible since he had “one prior Accrued Season in which the player was on the 45-man active roster for no more than 8 games”. I believe he was active for 7 games last year.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 19, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey bud
You still got the same email? Sending questions out to a couple peeps today
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 19, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I'll text you
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 19, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you are right
Nfl.com has him for 7 games.
Mind is muddled. I first searched for Stacey Dillard, who was the backup NT behind Eric Howard for a few years.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
that makes sense.
Guy hasn’t made ANY noise, ever.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Aug 19, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that is who i thought too
Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 19, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
OLine
is definitely tops on my viewing schedule for the game. Hopefully they’re starting to come together with Baas. After that, an eye on the “bubble” guys to see who’s going to make the final cut.
Random thought: We normally play our starters the most in the 3rd preseason game, which is of course versus the Jets. Seeing as we play them regular season this year, I think it’s more likely we see extra time for the starters in games 2 & 4, to keep as much away from them as possible.
I doubt we see much of any of the starters against the Pats.
Too close to the regular season and the coaches want to look at the guys that are on the bubble.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 19, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
And WHY IS TOM QUINN STILL HERE?????
by BigBlueDeadHead on Aug 19, 2011 9:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Don't understand keep this guy
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting diffrent results! Quinn sints!
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Dodge's punts affect the coverage too
I know that our coverage team is pretty bad, but I’d stop short of saying that Dodge gets “victimized”. As someone above already pointed out, it’s pretty hard to make a play on a punt returner when he catches the ball before you’re within 15 or 20 yards of him. Put some freakin’ air under the kicks and the coverage will improve, even if just slightly.
I believe Dodge is on a choker lead at this point.
He makes one bad play, whether it be muffing the snap, shanking a kick, or kicking a ball down the middle when they ask him to directional kick, and he won’t make the team. They’re giving him a chance, and pulling for him, but they want to see consistency. One of those terrible mental blunders stated above, will prove he’s the same old mentally unstable Matt Dodge, and he won’t make the cut. I have no worries, it will happen, and Weatherford will win out.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 19, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions
He did very well though in the first pre game
Our covg team still sucks though and yet the net for the night was almost 40 yards.
B/T Weatherford and Dodge they were really going at it.
We gave up something like 6 million(Austin Powers accent) return yards that night and still netted 40 yards?
Pretty good to me
I have no clue why we wouldn't keep Weatherford
The guys is proven, and still fairly young, and is an excellent directional kicker – something a team with terrible coverage skills needs. Why is Dodge even in the equation still? Mind boggling to me – if we cut Steve to keep Matt, I’m going to lose it…
Because he is nothing special
Just an average punter.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
44 punts inside the 20 (NFL record) and like 15 inside the 10
Says otherwise.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Says the Jets stalled a lot at midfield
I have not heard we gave him a lot of money. And if he was great, he would not be competing with an incumbent for a job.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Hey had health issues that caused him to miss a playoff game last yr. .
Something with his heart. Hes on meds for it. Plus the Jets were aiming for Nnamdi.so they had to make $ available. They Gave David Harris a nice size contract also Cro… hence B Ewards , B smith and S Ellis all being shown the door.
They would have loved to keep them all.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Jets gave out too many contracts in free agency
The result of trading up in the draft too often, leaving roster holes.
I remember the heart issue now. Can certainly understand that being an issue.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
It was his 2nd such issue
But i agree not the deciding factor I thing he wanted a nice raise and with all the FAs they needed to resign ,he became expendable. ,
For the record the guys over at GGN were not pleased to see him go.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Says the Jets stalled a lot at midfield
Actually that’s not true they were pretty successful getting in to the red zone but just not getting in the end-zone.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
i $$$
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
so back to....
why would the Jets let him go?
Had to make room for Maybin
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
haha... see above
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
And the hang time
I forgot what an NFL punter’s hang time should look like, was nice to be reminded Saturday night.
by fortheglory94 on Aug 19, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
To me there was an appreciable difference in the two
Especially consistency wise
by fortheglory94 on Aug 19, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I def recall saying to myself on one line drive
here we go again..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
if we kept Dodge over Weatherford, its obvious he beat him out
can’t think any single way how that isn’t a good thing
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Could also mean JR values his draft picks more
We held on to Wilkenson and let Mitchell go after we won the SB.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilk was not JR's draft pick
Mitchell was let go cuz he was old and cost too much
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Mitchell got a good contract from Buffalo
They regretted it immediately
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Well JR did scout Wilkenson and had a hand in drafting him like he did Moss
Wilkenson stuck around here a lot longer than he should have. Mitchell was not old he was going into his 6th year and I thought he did a pretty good job for us in 07. He didn’t break the bank and was better than Danny Clark and Wilkenson combined. Buffalo got rid of him when he got seriously hurt not because of his play.
by Late for Dinner on Aug 19, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok I know I'm going to sound like I'm complaining about nothing, but I'll say it anyway
I noticed it a bit last season, but these questions to Pat suck. 2 special team questions, 1 question that’s been discussed ad nauseum, and 1 question about the LBs that she won’t answer because she’d probably rather save it for her own piece. I really like reading Train-A Thought, but this segment with here really just sucks. I’m not sure if it’s the questions or the person you’re asking. But IMO, I think you should reconsider or revamp this segment. Maybe get us (the commenters) to vote on the questions. Or maybe try to get a player from this weeks opponent to answer 5. Or every year, pick a rookie from our team to answer a quick 5. IDK like I said, just venting a little.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
You're on the list
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Doesn't sound like complaining
As much as being kind of offensive. Saying the questions and segment sucks is belittling to what Ed is trying to do which is get us inside information on a variety of topics which he does on a regular basis. If you don’t like it, maybe a polite personal e-mail to Ed with your suggestions would have been more appropriate than “venting” on his post about how much it sucks.
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
Do you feel like you don't on a regular basis from Ed?
He is more in tune to what is going on with the Giants than either you or I are being he gets to be around the personnel. Did I get anything particularly new out of this? A little, but the point I was making was that he regularly tries get us inside information and any critique you have of what he is doing could be done privately.
In trying to scramble out of a hole, it sometimes digs it deeper. ~Wellington Mara
I always root for the defense. ~Wellington Mara
The way I see it
Is the purpose of these questions is to get another professional’s opinion on what Ed and the rest of us discuss here. We know less than we think we do, and Ed is only one viewpoint, who may not have heard everything that is going on. We can speculate on Lloyd, but the more people you talk to, the more complete of a story you will get.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
yup
I believe Pat is at camp quite often, So her insight on the LB situation might be a little more precise than us picking our favorites out of a hat.
You down wit JPP?
Ed's local moose do not get the good gossip
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
I don't believe Eli
would have answered the question like that a few years ago. He would have said he’s still learning and trying to get up to that level, etc. He’s always been honest about his own development. Now, he’s moving into the prime years. Giants fans know it and it’s clear that Eli knows it too and that’s exciting.
Sinorice Moss was Accorsi's pick
and all I’ve heard about Sintim is that he’s been good in practice. Kiwanuka is just a beast.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
We'll be sure to give Sintim plenty of gold stars next to his name
The SAM only plays half or less of the game anyway. If he is riding the pine, we should be dangling him for a draft pick.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
kiwi really isn't a beast
he hasn’t done anything special as a LB yet.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 19, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would they cut Sintim ? If he can’t oust kiwanuka for the starting job he still provides value as a quality reserve ( which is important given kiwi’s injury history ) and he’ll play special teams. The real question is what happens if one of the DEs gets hurt and has to miss significant time ? Do the Giants use Toellefson as the 3rd DE or do they use Kiwanuka ?
by TheBXRepresenta on Aug 19, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
havnt seen it in camp
we talk about though.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Vick's Picks!
Vick showed his human side last night vs. Pittsburgh. Something like 4 for 9 with 3 picks?
Perry Fewell, where you watching? T2, get you some stickum!
Why, oh why, couldn’t this have been the third game of the season already??
And although it was a hackish piece by Joyner a few days ago
he is probably right about probabilities
Vick is highly unlikely to duplicate last year’s heroics
5- 12 , 3 pics and a sack
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Their line is a mess
he’s gonna have to start thinking run first again.
Good news for us—means a pounding on him
Yeah, their OL is going small, zone blocking
You need to be smart to pull that off. Maybe they saw what Indy did to us last year. But Peyton + Saturday > pretty much everyone else in the league. And Goff and the D were still green then.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Imagine the eagles...
With Vick out for the season (when was the last time he started more than 12 games in a single season/) and a head case of a QB starting instead. I don’t wish anyone to get hurt, but this scenario is definitely a reasonable scenario. Dream team turns into nightmare.
Let's Google it...
and find out. I don’t know how Vick has a reputation on this blog for being some injury prone/riddled QB. Career Stats for Games Played…
Rookie
15
5 – Broken Leg
15
15
16
Prison
Prison
Backup to McNabb
12 – Bruised Sternum
So if you take out rookie and broken leg years, he missed 3 games in 4 seasons with Atlanta. Not exactly on the shelf all the time. However, he is older, and if he slows down a step, he may get hit more… and the Giants do like to knock QBs out of games
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