Comparing Tom Coughlin, Rex Ryan

Rex

I would prefer Rex as my head coach. His players love him. I cant say the same about Tom

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 1:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Who cares if they love him? I only care if they win for him. Jim Fassel’s players loved him. You want love, buy a dog.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions

and if you want to win, kill the dog

/Vick’d.

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Ice cold man, ice cold

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions

wrong. You still wouldn't win.

Team Greg Jones
Team JPP

by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 17, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions

They're not going to win for him if they hate him.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I disagree. I can name at least a couple of examples in sports of teams that won with coaches who weren’t popular with their players.

It’s not about making people like you, it’s about making them believe that you can make them successful.

Jeff Hostetler HATED Parcells, and was ready to quit playing football on several occasions because of him……how do you think he felt about Billy Boy by the end of January 1991?

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

hated vs respect

a player can hate or dislike a player. It boils down to respect.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

You don’t have to like someone to respect them.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

my point. IMO many Giants players don’t like or respect Tom. I don’t care what they say publicly. Read Strahan’s book. Was it a coincidence when Smith signed with the Eagles he thanked many including coaches but omitted TC? I don’t think so.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Smith didn't thank Eli either

does he hate him too?

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

::opens mouth::

nevermind

by Town on Aug 17, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

not sure if this is a joke or not but… doesn’t Smith have Eli to thank for making him a pro bowl WR?

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

You don't care what the players say publicly?

So basically your opinion is admittedly based on no facts or supporting evidence? In fact, you outright ignore evidence to the contrary when forming your opinion? Okay, thanks.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions

You have to go all the way back to the 90s or prior.

These are new times. These players are different now. They want to play where they can enjoy themselves. All of the teams who made the playoffs have coaches that their players love.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

look at the Bucs

that team is nothing special to me. But their coach is so different from Tom Coughlin, and he gets the most out of them for being like that. You hear soo many players wanting to play for Rex Ryan. Have you ever heard anyone say that they want to play for TC? It’s mostly the opposite. Bart Scott said his team is ready to go to war for Rex. Who has said that about TC?

TC is a good coach, but he’s past his era. Maybe if this was the 80s or 90s he would’ve won 3 SBs. But now he’s just an old man; he’s unable to adapt with the times.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

they hated Parcells too

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Aug 17, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

So his era ended just 4 years ago?

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions

2007 SB

The Giants got hot at the right time. The driving force was the final game of the season. They had lots of incentive to beat the Patriots. Although, the lost they came out of the game with a ton of confidence. They knew they could play with anyone. That confidence carried over into the playoffs.

Tom gets too much credit for the SB. Tom didn’t do anything different that year. In fact if it wasn’t for a huge performance from Bradshaw vs the Bills we might have had another disappointing end to the season.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions

you can say that about any coach

do you know how many Packers fans wan McCarthy run out of town even despite the SB win? Be surprised, many think he’s a moron.

Every one player gets too much credit for the SB. Coughlin, Spags, Tyree, Eli, Bradshaw, whoever the hell you want to name. It was all of them, the team.

They got hot, sure. But every SB winner does. Its no excuse, its no reason to downplay it. It happens, every year.

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 17, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

but we’ve failed under TC late regular season every season except one. He’s the common denominator. Many players have come and gone. It’s obvious he and his coaching staff fail to make in-season adjustment.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Coughlin changed

his demeanor and his approach towards the team in 2007. It’s well documented. And do you remember what sparked the team against the Patriots? It was Coughlin’s no-nonsense “we’re going to play to win and not hold anything back” stance that inspired his team to go out and hit the mighty Patriots in the mouth. Give credit where credit is due.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

The linebacker from Boston College who had cancer said he came to the Giants after talking to Coughlin because he wants to play for him.

by bgoggin on Aug 17, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Rex

has gone to 2 AFC championship games with inferior talent. He gets more out of his players than TC.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Do I need to remind you what Tom Coughlin did with inferior talent in 2007?

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Their offensive line is in its prime and they're all good

not sure they have inferior talent there, the caliber of the OL is the biggest reason a team will have success and theirs is very good.

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions

can't downplay rexie's influence

The jets don’t do anything great, but they do everything well—sign of good coaching…whatever I’ll give credit where it’s due

by Town on Aug 17, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I have problem

giving Rex credit for what he has done in the past 2 years. But to do it, people don’t have to downplay the things TC has done.

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

*I have no problem

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly

by Town on Aug 17, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Definitely Hav to Agree With Rex

I’m not gonna say the Jets hav inferior talent I believe both teams have their strong suits and weaknesses but I believe Rex has done a wayyyyy better job with his than TC (especially 09)! When you love being where u are and lover and respect ur coach its so much easier to perform w/o having to look over your shoulder after every play. There’s a level of comfortability that allows you to jus say “ok I’m just gonna go do my job”! TC jus reeks of un-approachability and its hard to play balls out for some1 like that. I think Rex would do wonders with our team especially having a Vet QB! Rex basically inherited the same team with a worse QB and got them to the playoffs when ManGenious couldn’t muster up a winnning season.! So my vote goes 2 Rex

by AHoustonGiant on Aug 17, 2011 2:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Jets

have a better OL and TE. In other offense categories Giants are better. We’re far better in the most important category. QB.

On defense we have a better DL. They’re better at LB. Revers is far and away the best CB in the league. Overall I’d rate the DBs pretty equal.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Answer a simple question

have yoou tried to approach TC and been rebuffed by him? If not, I don’t see how you can comment on his approachability.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Parcells represented both teams.

I wonder which team he’s more fit to coach. This Giants or Jets team.

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by DCyanks21 on Aug 17, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions

Giants

Parcells is a no nonsense business like coach

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

He's more fit to coach

The one that pays him the most and gives him the most power.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Rex has won how many SBs in a row? 3

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 17, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions

Yup, August World Champions 3 years running now for those New York Jets

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions

None with 2 AFC Champ games

Rex 24-14 and 4-2 in the playoffs
Tom 18-14 without a playoff appearance

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

There’s no trophy for being the second best team in the AFC

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

so

then finishing out of the playoffs is acceptable?

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I didn’t say that. But the coach of the Giants has a Super Bowl Ring, the coach of the Jets has a Super Bowl mouth.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

The SB ring

has been followed by 3 dismal seasons including how the 2008 season ended.

Giants fans need to stop living in the past. The 2007 SB was a lifetime ago. This team has been a huge disappointment the last 3 season. Each season started promising. Each ended terribly.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

A lifetime ago?

who’s? All those poor toddlers have lived three years without a SB win? Way to be dramatic.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions

That shows you how hard it is to win a Super Bowl

You sound spoiled, could be a long time before you see another Championship.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 18, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Steve Spaguolo and Plaxico Burress

Got us to and won us the Superbowl Coughlin was just along for the ride!

by AHoustonGiant on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

lol

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Coughlin

didn’t even want to send Tynes out for the winning FG in OT vs GB. Tynes ran out ignoring TC.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, after he badly missed three straight

can’t imagine why the coach would lack confidence. You’re seriously grasping for straws.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm sure Coughlin didn't want him out there in an obvious FG situation

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 17, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Entrance

for comedic quote of the night.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions

sounds like the Eagles

or the Atlanta Braves

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by Rorschach44 on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Important to point out that you are adding the playoff records in there...

Regular season and Rex was only one game better each season in a divison where they get to play the Bills and Dolphins twice

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by DavidE on Aug 17, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I seperated their playoff record

Redskins and Bill had comparable records. Cowboys were pretty bad last season. Jets beat Indy and NE on the road in the playoffs.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Rex has won 2 more games in the regular season

than coughlin in those two years.

Rex lucked out that the AFC was uber weak in 2009 and we were unlucky that the NFC was uber strong in 2010.

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by Willgfass on Aug 17, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Dafeet.

Residing on the BEast Coast.

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by DCyanks21 on Aug 17, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

#stolen

Francesa said that Mark Sanchez apparently likes justin bieber, glee, and walks around half naked with long white pants. I have no words, Mark.

by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

#stolen

Francesa said that Mark Sanchez apparently likes justin bieber, glee, and walks around half naked with long white pants. I have no words, Mark.

by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Personally, they both have nothing on the one and only, wade philips

Francesa said that Mark Sanchez apparently likes justin bieber, glee, and walks around half naked with long white pants. I have no words, Mark.

by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

+5

Ppl don’t see it man that dude is the ONE lmao, when he gets Houston to the playoffs I’m gonna go kiss my Ex’ Mom for the F of it! Those Cowgirls just quit on him last yr

by AHoustonGiant on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Sb nation needs an app

Francesa said that Mark Sanchez apparently likes justin bieber, glee, and walks around half naked with long white pants. I have no words, Mark.

by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 1:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

I’m trying to think of a comparison that can include a foot joke…..

Gimme a minute

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions

Rex fits the jets

Because they always end up tasting defeet

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by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Perfecto!

I will stop trying, you win.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't think so.

Rex Ryan is taking the Jets to heights that they have never seen. So if what he means by “historically” is these past 2 years, then yes. But if not, then no.

Rex Ryan is already the greatest coach the Jets have ever had.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

Better than Weeb?

Better than Kotite? As a Giants fan, I will always have a soft spot for Kotite as HC of the NYJ

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Weeb won a SB

At the end of the day all Rex’s regular season and post season records are nice but if he does not win a SB nobody is going to remember to much other than they did not win. Hey this is NY, nobody really gives Fasal much respect for losing the Super Bowl. I doubt loosing two AFC championship games is really going to give Rex that much Credit.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 17, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm going not going to lie

Rex Ryan is perhaps the most annoying person in sports, but there’s no denying his defensive mind and the charisma he has with his players. Has he won a superbowl? No. But it’s only been 2 years, and he’s already taken the jets to the afc championship game. Not winning a superbowl in your first 2 years as a coach doesn’t make you bad, TC didn’t even do that. On that note, I respect TC as a coach too, but I would love to have Rex on the Giants. He’s the type of person that you absolutely love if he’s on your team, completely despise if he’s not.

by Troy Aikman Sucks on Aug 17, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions

I wouldn't love to have him

He’s an idiot

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by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

you wouldn't love going to the NFC Championship 2 years straight?

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd much rather win the superbowl

Or get a good draft pick# . Does it really matter where you place if you dont win it all?

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by espnsucks on Aug 17, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I rather be competitive every season.

I guess some people like what we’ve been going through the last 3 years; I for one don’t.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

past 3 years?

Why does everyone seem to think 2008 was the worse year ever? Are the Giants the first team ever to lose a home playoff game after being a top seeded team? NO!
And competitive is being in it till the end… which the Giants were last year.

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly

2008 was tough because of how well we started and how it spiraled quickly after Plax shot himself

2010 was tough because we had our shot and royally blew it against the Eagles

2009 was actually easier to stomach because we slowly lost our chance to do anything and it didn’t hit all at once as it had in previous years.

It feels much worse when you can point to one situation or play or game and say…that was what sunk us.

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by DavidE on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

*that should be in the previous examples

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by DavidE on Aug 17, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

2009 sucked!

Basically KP goes down and CC has to play and we found out Johnson stunk too. Teams were Carpet Bombing our team.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 17, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but we weren't shocked like in 2008 and 2010

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by DavidE on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually yeah we were shocked

We won 5 straight and looked pretty darn good doing it. Than the Saints came in and kicked our butts and the Team fell apart losing 8 of the next 11 games.

Most teams that win their first 5 games go to the playoffs, so yeah 09 sucked pretty bad too.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 17, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Denver was 6-0 in 09 and did not make it either

I think they won only one other game that year… against the Giants, lol. No point to any what I just said , just a fun fact

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

2009

was the worst season since Eli took over.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

past 3 years includes 08, 09, and 10.

and Giants weren’t competitive they continued to underachieve. Yes, Plax hurt himself, but that’s still underachieving.

what are you talking about? Last year, they did what they do every year, star out strong than fall. If you call that competitive then whatever.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Competitive isn't the word I was looking for.

I want my team to be a “Contender.”

Last 3 years they weren’t contenders

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Last 3 years weren’t contenders - is worse then not competitive

so hosting a playoff in the Div Round in Jan 2009 is not a contender?

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, that one year.

But the 2008 season was a disappointment. If you liked the way that season ended then you probably like the way these past 2 season ended as well.

I doubt the Jets were disappointed (the way we were in 08) in 09 and 10.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions

nah, didnt like the end to any of those seaons

my point is, you can’t lump 08 in with 09 & 10 and call them all non-competitive/non-contender years. The last two years sucked big time, I’m with yah there… but 08 was a dissappointment… big difference

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

In 08

we were supposed to suck and the Cowboys were winning their nine thousandth superbowl.

I think we exceeded expectations even with the first round loss

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by Willgfass on Aug 17, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I said 'in it till the end'

if packers lost week 17, Giants are in

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Well that's cool and whatever.

I like it better when you “win to get in” the playoffs. Giants had 2 chances (I believe back to back weeks), and they blew it.

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

anyway what are you even arguing about?

Do you honestly believe that these past 3 years altogether were successful seasons?

Because if you do what do you consider it when a team goes to 2 AFC Championship games back to back?

by GoffAttack on Aug 17, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

my argument

u can’t lump 08 in with 09 & 10, thats all

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions

and I never said the past 3 seasons were successful

I’m trying to state that a good team losing in the Div round at home does not make the season automaticlly non-competitve.

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions

2008 was a disaster

we collapsed down the stretch. We played poorly and it carried over into the playoffs.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

my point for the 50th time

many teams have played poorly at the end of the season then lost in the first round. Those are not comparable to non-playoff seasons.

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions

but we do it every season.

TC been our head coach 7 seasons. Under him we’ve had one winning record the final 4 weeks of the regular season.

I really don’t understand why fans don’t have a problem with the ongoing late season collapse. It’s too many season for it to be a coincidence.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I do have a problem with the late season let downs

and I am for him being gone if they miss the postseason again

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions

we didnt collapse in 08

We were the best team in football until Plax shot himself

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by wangstu13 on Aug 17, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

*superblow

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by TheWenz on Aug 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

It does matter

To suggest it doesn’t matter is naive. Would you really want to watch an uncompetitive team winning 4 to 6 games. Or live through 2009 again. The 2nd half of the season was painful.

So if you don’t win the SB you’d prefer going 0-16 and getting the top pick.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Both are good coaches

Rex does it his way and is more of a players coach, Tom is Old School.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 17, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions

Old School for an old school organization.

Since 1960:

Old School Organization: 10 Division Titles, 4 NFC Championships, 3 SB wins

New School: 4 Division Titles, 1 SB win 42 years ago that the QB won’t let anyone forget.

I wouldn’t trade our coach, our history, our team, for anything, especially the Jets

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

We all know the Jets are the NFL's dog with Fleas

However I will say this about Rex, he has taken an organization that basicaly didn’t matter. (well to Jet fans they mattered) and turned them into a national story.

by Late for Dinner on Aug 17, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions

wow

If you want to rip on TC for the past few years of no playoffs… fine my me. If it happens again this year, I’m the first to say fire him.
But now guys won’t to dismiss and downplay his Super Bowl title… I’m lost at this point

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions

his late season record speaks for itself

under TC we’ve only had 1 winning record the last 4 weeks of the regular season. Do you honestly believe our SB win was in a large part due to TC? If so, please explain your reasons.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Never said a large part

considering this is a team sport and everything has to fall in to place and get hot at the right time.. a head coach should get credit for getting his team there, then winning it, right
The players should get the most credit. But comments like “along for the ride” can be given to any coach that won a SB.

Hey coughlin, heard there’s an opening in Cleveland. You should fit right in….. Loser!
I think Coach Coughlin should be fired! How come there are no locals in that line-up. Nothing to give the fans a name they know, nobody on that roster that went to Rutgers University, St Johns or any team from New York or New Jersey. And if the locals can’t get a shot on the franchise from the state they live in, why are we fans going to these games. To see some other state, and see our players play for foreign teams (other states) this is the first time in 20 years, the Giants don’t have any locals on their roster.

by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 17, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions

2011

I have lots of confidence and high expectations this coming season. Regretfully, TC and others in the coaching staff are my only reasons for apprehension. Why TQ still has a job is beyond comprehension. TC fired Bill Sheridan after a dismal season. Yet, Quinn still has a job. The one area the Giants have failed miserably under Tom has been ST. We suck almost every year. But Tom keeps things status quo.

by GMen56-11 on Aug 17, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes

see my posts above.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 17, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Noticing the lack of trolls

Even when Free mentioned the Eagles

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by sunlion333 on Aug 17, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions

Both guys are good coaches

TC has accomplished more but Rex has done a nice job in only two years. They are opposites but it works for them.

Both teams have had talent. Giants have drafted pretty well and have had a few good FA’s the Jets have done a nice job.

If/When Rex has a down year that should be interesting to see how he responds. He’s shot out of the gates as a HC but sooner or later he’ll have a down year and that will be interesting

by Landeta on Aug 17, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions