Kickoff Specialist Rhys Lloyd Signs With Giants

they won’t want to take up the valuable roster spot during the regular season with a guy who only does kickoffs.

only some insurance for Tynes. this guy might just kick during the preseason and be released afterward.

btw Francesa at Giants camp tomorrow

Boom! your move

The Giants play bad special teams. If he was good at touch backs before then he will be even better now. Tell the guy to kick it out of the endzone every time and that will help the Giants to much more then some 7th WR or whatever they give up to have him.

If he can just boom kicks straight up, can’t we just field him every kickoff and punt. I’d rather not even field a ST and just make every team go 80 yards.

Even Tom Quinn can’t screw this plan up…

That’s a lot of coverage for the Giants on a random Tuesday night.

With the extra 5 yards, I’d bet that his touchback ratio is well above 50% — perhaps higher if he didn’t kick in the late fall winds of Giants Stadium.

That would mean that each opposing offense would need to make at least another first down. And if we do get a stop, we’ll get better field position despite our terrible punt return teams.

So, is another special teamer worth nearly a guaranteed 10 yards of field position??

very pro giants article on ESPN home page

Sure Tynes is hurt, but the real issue is the Giants have struggled on ST the last few seasons. I do recall Bill Parcells saying that the field position game is worth points. If we can avoid big returns on kickoffs then the extra roster spot fot that special teamer should in fact be Lloyd.

Now I get that some people here will clamor that he is taking up a valuable roster spot. Well if this guy can elimanate returns and force offenses to march down the field 80 yards on this defense, then I say do it. One extra LB will not make the difference on ST, but an ace Kickoff specialist will eliminate alot of our coverage problems.

It’s all about field position folks. I see many here thinking this is temporary but I say it’s not.

We watched so much of our success in 2007 attributed to field position. we were great at covering kicks and returning kicks that year. It was CRITICAL in the Dallas game. It was all the hidden yardage that day. It was again a huge factor vs. GB. Feagles was a weapon.

There are obvious problems with our coverage teams. If we can eliminate a returner running back a kick off it will mean 10 + yards every possession for the other team after we score. I love it.

And BINGO, kick coverage issues solved. And Tom Quinn’s photos stay in the briefcase.

more of a referendum on Quinn than it is on Tynes. After the first preseason game, it didn’t look to me that our Special Teams woes of last year were adequately adressed. With Lloyd, our kickoff “coverage” will instantly improve if he starts kicking it out the back of the endzone, right? Can’t screw that up, haha.

Take that Eagles.

we used Jeff Feagles in the pre-season to “train” Dodge to do what Feagles did. Can you see the cognative disconect? He could kick a a ball a thousand miles but did Feagles do him more good than harm? Dodge is a strange dude. When he’s interviewed, he sounds disconnected when he talks. He’s not on the same page we are. We want wins that lead to the superbowl. I’d swear that he doesn’t get that point.
I think that kickers and punters would come under the heading of proffesional golfers rather than football players. If you play golf, you know how hard it is to hit the ball straight at where you want it to go and at the correct distance. So if you stay with me, we have four proffesional “golfers” who have to be long and accurate. Dodge and Lloyd are like the 800 lb gorilla, Tynes and Weatherford are like the 200 lb chimpanzie.

Two guys—-We need a strong legged kicker and punter who can be trusted to be accurate and we don’t have that. Why is that so hard to do?