Giants Coach Tom Coughlin Looks For The Silver Linings
New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said Sunday that "the offense wasn't very good" during Saturday's 20-10 preseason-opening loss to Carolina. Coughlin, though, did find some positives in the loss.
"I thought our defense played well for the entire evening," Coughlin said. "We did not turn the ball over and that has been a major, major theme of ours."
Coughlin praised the play of several individuals. Let's look at some of them.
"The return of Domenik Hixon was a very positive thing for our team," Coughlin said. "I thought Dom had a very nice night catching the ball and taking a pounding and reassuring for himself that he is healthy and will be ready to go."
Victor Cruz "made the really big play down on special teams where he made a really nice tackle."
Coughlin said Linval Joseph "needs to play and he needs to spend more time on the field but he looks to be the kind of guy that can be stout in the middle for us. He can hold at the point and can be a powerful guy inside."
Asked about the play of Mark Herzlich, the undrafted free agent linebacker, Coughlin said:
"He did well. He was physical. You can obviously see his size as he was covering punts and kickoffs and that type of thing. He's very smart, plays mobile from the linebacker spot for us. Competitive. Outstanding in that respect all the way around. It was a good first game for him."
Several other young players drew unsolicited mention from the coach.
"I thought Greg Jones did a good job and showed signs of things going forward. I thought Ayanga OK did a nice job when he got into the game. Paysinger did alright and Witherspoon had some nice pass breakups. Tyler Sash did a pretty good job," Coughlin said.
Coughlin also praised the play of Jason Pierre-Paul and Chris Canty.
Lawrence Tynes UpdateCoughlin was not sure how much time Lawrence Tynes will miss due to the thigh bruise he suffered when rookie offensive lineman James Brewer missed an assignment, resulting in a blocked field goal and in Tynes getting smashed into by the helmet of a Carolina player. Coughlin, however, disagreed with Tynes' assertion that a penalty should have been called.
Not according to anything that I've read. Unless they've added a new category. I would certainly like it to be, but that's a technique mistake by a young player. That's what that is. We're all responsible for that," Coughlin said. "It just ticks me off that something like that happens. I would certainly hope it doesn't ever happen again, but that's a technical error by a young player."
Special teams assessment
The Giants have, of course, placed a great deal of emphasis on improving their special teams play this season. The results were decidely mixed Saturday.
"There were chances. We had a chance on the first kick-off for a big play. We missed a trap block. I wouldn't say that during punt returns, I wouldn't put it in the same category although there was one chance for a pretty good return that ended in plus 11 yards that could have been more," Coughlin said. "The coverage stuff was missed tackles and not being in position of containment. Guy brings the ball all of the way across the field and is able to outrun your defense, then you have an issue. Your coverage team, you got an issue. The missed tackles, the being out of position and the inability to contain was the issue there."
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Looks like Tommy C is in mid-season form. And the special teams last night was like “cue the circus music”.
"What seest thou else, in the dark backward and abysm of time?"
by SteveSmithIsATraitor on Aug 14, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't you see him on the sideline. Jumping around all red faced.
He was very animated and into the game. Just what I want from my coach.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
What else is new?
LOL!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 15, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Tom likes to scream, always reminds me of this

"misinformed and don’t have your eyes open. It’s also clear you didn’t watch all the games. I’m correct, about that, aren’t I?"
"You seem to speak from a point of knowledge, when in fact its obvious you haven’t been watching. Certainly not all of the games. Those of us that have see the weaknesses, and the strengths of our team. You seem to have some blind faith that all is well."
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny.
And then we have Grumpy Smurf Pat Hanlon yelling at all the kids to get off his lawn. He has been an embarrassment for a long time now. Did anyone see him on the sideline Sat. night? He had on a T-shirt with what I thought was a dumb message on it. I can’t remember exactly what it was, but it had one word capitalized for emphasis that seemed like the wrong word to highlight.
I will be at the season opener NYG @ WAS with a few friends. If you are going and feel like looking up a fellow BBVer and having some fun, let me know.
lol
Its nice to hear from a pure homer like Pat from time to time but there should be a limit to his rants. The tweets are funny but they did sound a lil crazy. Giants Online should be even more intresting now, haha
"misinformed and don’t have your eyes open. It’s also clear you didn’t watch all the games. I’m correct, about that, aren’t I?"
"You seem to speak from a point of knowledge, when in fact its obvious you haven’t been watching. Certainly not all of the games. Those of us that have see the weaknesses, and the strengths of our team. You seem to have some blind faith that all is well."
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn I wish Coughlin actually went out and pronounced
Ayanga Okpokowuruk. He flaked out by calling him Ayanga OK lol.
In other news….Osi back gives us a rotation of Osi, Tuck, JPP, Tolly and allows Kiwi to stay at SLB. Thing of beauty that is.
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions
Tom Quinn...
I’m already calling for his head and it’s the first game of preseason. Quinn has done nothing to improve things from last year. You’ve got a deep, talented, young team and you can’t get these guys to cover a punt? Can’t get these guys to block for your speedy returner? Hit the road, Jack.
In Reese We Trust
His name is actually Tom...
"What seest thou else, in the dark backward and abysm of time?"
by SteveSmithIsATraitor on Aug 14, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
Im just messing with you. I’m a musician too.
"What seest thou else, in the dark backward and abysm of time?"
by SteveSmithIsATraitor on Aug 14, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
wattup musicians in the house!
Let’s write a song
“Tom Coughlin:
If you wanna win
fire Tom Quinn.”
"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford
I think more kudos needs to go to Adrian Tracy
Dude was a disruptive force while he was out there. I think Fuel needs to find a way to have him in there along with the NASCAR once the games count.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
by wilddre22 on Aug 14, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
well, we've got JPP, Osi (now that he realizes JPP is better than him), and Tuck...
I guess there’s an opening…
In Reese We Trust
Max Hall looked ok...
I think Kiwi would be an awesome player to put in the NASCAR line if he’s not needed in coverage.
In Reese We Trust
Kiwi is part of the Nascar Package
Osi Kiwi Jpp Tuck
In coverage?? lol
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
With those 4 you don’t need coverage haha
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Imagine
JPP-TUCK-CANTY-OSI
TRACY-BOLEY-KIWI
Offenses would stand no chance.
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
With
a rotation of Rolle, KP, TT, Ross, Webster and Sash…
all of a sudden JR doesnt seem so bad anymore.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
I forgot Weatherspoon
if he doesn’t start this year, He will be next year.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Sash and Weatherspoon...
those guys have some green to shake off…they’re young and inexperienced. For what it’s worth, they could use a year to soak up the playbook.
In Reese We Trust
Oh absolutely
but the way Sash came back gives me a lot of hope for the kid. Same with Weatherspoon…. If they don’t end up starting at one point this year, they will both be starting for the Giants next season.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Weatherspoon can be great depth
he’s not starting over TT, CWeb, or even Prince unless something goes horribly wrong.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as I hate to say it
I really think we loose TT to free agency. I hope he doesn’t ask for much but I believe some team might be willing to grossly over pay
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
don't talk about that yet...
we have him at least for this year. I don’t want to think about it. The Giants were stingy this year. I hope they don’t keep this up for long.
In Reese We Trust
that's why JR is clearing so much space
Trust the man! he’s looking 3- 4 moves ahead.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Sash made a few mistakes out there
But he kept his composure. He kept battling and made some plays out there.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
Can't Fault Sash
he was up against a experienced TE
not at all
11 practices in the professional level and the first preseason game go 1 on 1 with one of the best pass catching TE’s in the league… He just looked like he was questioning himself more than anything… The way he kept at it throughout the game, is a big positive for me.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Dude played well...
showed up on a lot of plays and had a couple of passed defended. He could be a real sleeper that we need!
by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 15, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont believe
its an experiment any more.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
New NASCAR
DT: Canty, Linval
DE: Tuck, Osi
LB: Kiwi, JPP, Sintim (all blitzing of course)
CB: Tollefson, Tracy
Safety: Michael Strahan, LT
of course, everyone’s blitzing
"The nerve of certain youngins running their mouth.
Until [the Eagles] win something major, I don't want to hear it."
-the Facebook mayor of East Rutherford
OMG.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I thought he looked good
while he was out there, maybe in the 3rd down package they can find ways?
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 15, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Sash
I thought the way he and Ross bounced back after awful 1st quater outings were pretty good. Nothing like gettin the rust out of the system.. Offense just needs to start gel’in but this is how they look every preseason game 1
BTW, I love Osi’s cop out reasons for coming back… the real reason is, he saw first hand he might ride the pine for the next two years, and it wouldn’t have been his choice…
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Actually
I thought Ross looked pretty bad, missed tackles. He was beaten at the end of the first half,
an accurate passer would have had six points there.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 15, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Brewer's a young guy...
but I’d have to say that it’s a terribly dangerous mistake. You can’t have that; he’s been in the system for a year already.
In Reese We Trust
nope, he's a rookie lol
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
lockout syndrome, my friend. This offseason was painful.
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewer was drafted 4th round this year
The only OL we drafted last year was Mitch Petrus in the 5th.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
give him another year...
took Beatty 2 years, plus we are not grooming him to be here for a year… We are grooming him to be our future RT. Let Flaherty do what he does best!
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Brewer played some LT last night
JR said after the draft that Brewer could be a LT. And that was where he was playing at the end of the game. Guess he told the truth.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
thats a standard issue
Giants OL… specialized in one spot but can play 2-3
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
I laughed when they said Boothe would play center
But it happened. And it went well.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Unrelated but,
Mark my words, if we lose Jonathon Goff to free agency next year, we need not worry. Greg Jones is going to be a beast. I re-watched the game, and the dude was flying EVERYWHERE.
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
That was what he did in college
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
yes
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He's Fletcher 2.0
"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin
It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!
yes
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Devin Thomas looked good at WR
The Giants have like 5 receivers who will be more productive than Steve Smith or Plax.
Tom Quinn really has to go. No tackling on punts, no blocking on returns.
The defense will be awesome.
i think we need a better tight end than those we have.
All of this
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
though I'd like to see what Beckum can do...he didn't play this last game
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
that certainly would help Eli...
is it me or was Eli totally inaccurate last night. If his last name wasn’t Manning we would totally be talking about Rosenfels supplanting him.
In Reese We Trust
preseason game 1
he has always looked this bad… go back check out the last 4-5 preseason game 1’s on nfl.com
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
i'll trust your judgment on that...
trust me, I’m one of his biggest fans. Vacchiano’s book was, to me, poetic justice for a guy who’s been browbeaten, underestimated, and overlooked.
In Reese We Trust
historically
our first couple preseason games we’ve looked like ass.
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Eli
was rushed hard on the first pass of the game to Bradshaw and the over throw to Nicks. I’m not going to kill him for inaccuracy when he gets pummeled.
Ballard will be nice this year
he can block
he’s huge
and he made I think a couple nice catches last night
plus we have that other dude, Coates…I think
he looked okay also.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
Thomas was looking good...
Special teams did muff a bunch of tackles…back to work or it’s off with your head (Quinn)
Hopefully and aberration due to only practicing for 11 times!!
by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 15, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Beckham can catch,but i don't think he can block
But i look forward to seeing what he can do when he plays.
they've already talked about doing different things when he's in the game...
they’re making us wait a week. I wonder what those changes would look like.
In Reese We Trust
Beckham??
Thats the “Other” Football. lol
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
I'd move Osi if that first rounder ever materializes
And let kiwi put his hand in the dirt. Much better there anyway, and having two firsts next year could build lots of young talent. Kiwi JPP Tuck is still a great rotation. Move Osi now while he’s worth it if that no. 1 appears.
Agreed completely.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Not true
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
This is true.
Tollie is after him. He’s a great backup, but thats just it, a back up.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Not going to get that 1st rounder. Sorry bud.
That’s like gold to almost every team, no one’s going to give up a 1st rounder for a soon to be 30 year old speed rusher who wants a new contract and doesn’t play the run very well. Giants best bet is to play him this year, as much as it pains me, he’s going to start over JPP, he’s earned that right at the least. He needs to have another big year, and stay healthy, then next off season, we move him for maybe a second and a 4th. I think even if he has another good year, that’s the most we’ll get for him.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 15, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I know we’re not.
I was just agreeing that if someone offered it we should take it.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
it's obvious
how much of the league feels about Osi. McCoy was the only one that had the balls to say it in the media. Osi is soft!
Never know
you know how injuries work in the NFL…A team feels like this could be their year, but their DE goes down for the season. They may say screw it.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
When was the last time this happened?
Teams just don’t panic this way. First round picks are almost never dealt for veterans, and when they are, it’s a Jay Cutler (QB) situation usually.
Santonio Holmes is a better WR than OSI is a DE, was younger, and wasn’t demanding a new contract, and all he garnered was a 5th round pick. Now granted he had other baggage, but the market, even in a panic, won’t get anywhere near a first round pick for him.
Holmes was way different.
The Steelers were trying to pawn him off because of all the off the field stuff with weed and everything. Osi’s problems are at least football related, no comparing the two.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Osi's problem is contract related
I think most teams would rather take a chance on a bad character guy rather than take a chance on an interminable contract dispute.
I'd rather take the guy who just wants a contract
not the guy who can’t stay out of trouble with the law. Idk, call me crazy.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed wit this.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Yep
would have happened already.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 15, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds familiar
LOL.
"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin
It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!
It looks like we will be keeping 8 LBs again
Because it is too hard separating the good from the bad. Hopefully some guys really stand out by the end of the preseason, and some don’t.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
I think there will be a lot of teams waiting for our final cuts this year
It seems we have a lot of guys this year with excellent long term potential, but who may not be ready this year for making the limited roster space. Tough decisions down the road, and unpolished gems for some other team to pick up from us. We may actually end up needing Osi’s roster spot. I get the feeling that we may lose a Ryan Grant type player this year, a painful cut that becomes a star for someone else. We have kept most of our draft choices from the last several years without requiring them to perform. It’s crowded in there now, and some guys will be gone without ever really having gotten the chance.
And some other GM will swoop in and take them and put them on the field.
Playing the young guys is as much about learning who to cut as learning who to keep, and we haven’t been doing that.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 15, 2011 2:12 AM EDT reply actions
we just hope the FO pick the guys that will flourish for us.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
I wonder if TC will give Hixon some return duty.
It is apparent that Hixon still has the speed and breakaway ability. We can definitely use that on special teams.
I was hoping that he would give his take on Jerrel’s performance.
Glad that Osi is finally making his return and I am sure that Tuck is too. Those two guys really compliment each other. The pass rush will definitely be back to form now. Just stay healthy Osi, you’ll get your money.
28 points in 7:28. Yeah, thats the punter's fault.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 15, 2011 7:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't know
why they need to see 2 quarters of Reynot returning punts or trying too?
Do they expect to see some wow factor from him? Lets see what Jerrigan, Ross, Hixon, and
even Thomas can do.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 15, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably not much better with our ST blocking.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

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