Giants Preseason Game 1, Review: Three Good Numbers, Three Bad Numbers
by Ed Valentine on Aug 14, 2011 12:56 PM EDT
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PrintLet's try a little something different in reviewing Saturday's 20-10 preseason loss to the Carolina Panthers by the New York Giants. We have done our recap, and our traditonal 'Kudos & Wet Willies. Let's try a 'three good numbers, three bad numbers' and see where it goes. Hey, its preseason for me, too.
Three Good Numbers
0: That's the number of turnovers the Giants offense had Saturday night. They did not do a whole lot of good things, but after leading the league with 42 turnovers a year ago this was welcome.
39.4: Despite a couple of returns that were longer than you would like, that was the Giants' net punting average. Last season that would have put them in the top five teams in the league in that category.
4: The number of sacks generated by the Giants' pass rush. Two of those came from 2010 first-round pick Jason Pierre-Paul. Osi Who?
Three Bad Numbers
3.2: That was the Giants' rushing average. They had just 81 yards on 25 running plays. That should improve as the communication amongst the revamped offensive line improves.
36: The number of passing yards Eli Manning accumulated in nine throws.
3: The number of points generated by the offense. Ugh!
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A quick question
How often are teams kneeling on kick offs and how many are running the ball out? I have seen a lot of teams taking the knee but I remember Carolina choosing to test the coverage of the Giants at least a couple times in the first half.
btw, I like the 3 numbers theme.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Chargers
I listened to some of the Chargers pre season game on the radio, and their announcers were complaining that the kicker was kicking the ball to far and got to many touchbacks. They wanted to see if the Chargers ST got better. The Chargers had a bad ST last year too. They fired their long time ST coach though….
The main thing I'm taking away from this game,
after having had some time to digest the hapless (I know it’s early) offense and the fairly impressive defense, is that here we all are again, in the cement mixer for another grueling season.
rofl
Watching the game now, did not have it in y area last night.
That’s some piss poor tackling right there.
It’s not really funny, but then again, it is. It’s just that bad.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
annoying to have NFL network run Panthers broadcast team
So now all I hear about are Carolina roster wannabes and nothing about who’s in for the Giants.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
wow were those guys bad
The Fullback Brandon Jacobs…….the Giants really use their tight ends too…….
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I rolled over about how the Giants really use their TE's
Though as for backups, it’s easy not to confuse JPP and Tollefson. Heh.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
The TE thing
I did find that odd. Couldn’t those guys look up the stats from last year and see how much the Giants threw to the TEs?
the TE one was classic
Cam was like Jesus and their defense was like the ’85 Bears
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
"bruising fullback who runs like a running back"
Brandon Jacobs.
Is this guy’s mother also his aunt and his father also his uncle?
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Martin Brodeur’s kid?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Don't go there.
You don’t want to touch on the Hockey debate. You’re not ready son.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The Eagles
announcers are ten times worst. Three mics had to be replaced because of excessive slobber, Hugh Douglas declared on the FOURTH PLAY that the Eagles Dline was already playing better than last year, and the play by play said the phrase “I’m telling you” every five plays. I wish I was exagerrating on that.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yea clearly announcers from other teams are paid to only know their teams
It’s kind of pathetic, because although I know the Giants very well, I take pride in knowing lots of teams and players around the league.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
Thats why I love Papa
He truly is knowledgeable about all aspects of the game.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
by wilddre22 on Aug 14, 2011 8:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lack of replays on giants plays too
they lacked on replays on a good few plays especially sash’s FF
by michaelkhan3 on Aug 15, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely horrific
Reminiscent of the Jackson return last year. Worse, actually. Pierre Paul the single shining light in that game, other than witherspoon. If we are talking about Witherspoon, that’s pretty sad.
#90
- William Beatty looks like a legit starting LT
#6..the number of good looking DE we have
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
that was #65 before the Beatty comment,don't know how a 1 got there
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 14, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Beatty and Diehl looked fine together
I saw they had Brewer at LT in the 2nd half, that’s one big man,
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
who was pretty bad.
Brewer looked lost. Overmatched constantly.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, from all I've heard and read about camp, he really is a raw project
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Didn't say he was good
But he is a RT
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
3 the number of preseason games left
for the fans to over analyze and have anxiety attacks about
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm waiting for that third preseason game
as it is usually the one the starters play the majority of the first half.
I do believe this defense will have to carry the team as it finds its identity the first 3-4 games.
As much as I like the JPP work – it makes me think how much more devastating it would be if Osi is working the blindside. Hopefully Osi takes the deal and we can start looking forward.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
yes,yes,yes!
12 man D-Line rotation…QB’s piled up after each game like crumpled garbage!
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yes,yes,yes!
12 man D-Line rotation…QB’s piled up after each game like crumpled garbage!
Steve Smith is the Judas Iscariot of NYG Football
we've replaced waaayyy better players than him
they can't stop us
SMASHMOUT
by Shaunthegiant on Aug 14, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the new piece
I vote to continue seeing it!
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
0 the number of season ending injuries
Come on Larry, suck it up
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone else like Ryan Perrierloux
Looked like a viable QB project to me, arm, confidence, not too shabby
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
He's the new Bomar maybe, though I don't want to have to learn to spell it
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
you need to cut and paste his name
trueblue tried to freelance it and failed. Let me cut and paste ( or at least make it possible for others to do so)
Ryan Perrilloux
Two R’s two L’s
Here’s hoping I am not putting that in short term memory
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he'll make a legend
Would Victor Cruz be Victor Cruz if he wasn’t called. . .Cruz?
See, it’s easy to spell.
I admit I’m having some fun with this meaningless game, as bad as it is. At least football is back!
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
but take a second and read about him
he has a great story
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't we just make it Perry-Lou
That’s how it’s pronounced
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
you got it
and the wizard sayz “Perry-Lou” it is
Ryan, please update your driver’s license
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
my favorite surprise of this game
Remember Spider, only a scrimmage.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
he looked good, I hope we keep him on the PS
I want to see Carr and see if we really should drop Sage (b/c of $) and keep Carr…that’s where the real battle is, unless Carr really doesn’t show much improvement and Perrilloux outshines both – but I highly doubt TC would just keep him as a rookie backup and drop both Sage and Carr. So, no matter how well or not Perrilloux performs – he’s on PS.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
Didn’t the 3 points come off of a fumble recovery lmao?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
0 injuries and 0 turnovers
As far as I’m concerned the good was gravy and the bad is a learning experience.
Its not important how they did. What’s important is how they improve.
by Raptor22 on Aug 14, 2011 2:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tell that to the self hating, pessimistic Giants fans on here.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Tynes did get hurt!
*** San Antonio needs a NFL team! ***
by SanAntonioGiant on Aug 14, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's better, just a thigh, muscle thing...
hope it’s not a deep bruise…but he has more than 7 days for it to heal.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
No one needs to be "told" anything.
We all watch the games, hopefully, and can comment on the good and the bad. We can all save the “telling”.
+1
I’m sure most on here know it’s a preseason game, we come here to vent or what have you. If anything there always is a very small percentage of the naysayers. Like 1% or so.
Football is an emotional sport, at least, that’s how I believe it. Esp. going back to my playing days.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
I keep hearing about the pessimistic fans
but they must be on some other sites. It seems to me that the vast majority here are optimistic.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Vast majority are very, very optimistic.
There are a few that are overly pessimistic.
And a few that are pretty objective.
Only problem is that anyone that isn’t overly optimistic is essentially shunned from this site, made fun of, called an idiot and a fake fan, and mocked in peoples sigs. Its childish.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Not really,
It’s people wanting to come here and have discussions about how good this team can be, get people excited. Not come here and here the negatives. Giants fans can hear that about their team on ESPN everyday. This place is kind of a rally the troops, prepare for battle type place. We want reasons to be excited about this team, reasons to say,“This team is going to win some football games.” This should be a place where die hard Giants fans come to celebrate, discuss, and analyze this team, not point out every little flaw and say we’re in for another long season. We hear that all the time from so called professionals. The reason for being a fan is to cheer on and root for your team to win, not to say they look like crap and they aren’t going to be any good, but having said that hope in the back of your mind you’re wrong and they are good.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Then again,
you are a Rangers fan, so I understand that “assumed to be crappy until proven otherwise” theory. :)
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Up until now, yeah.
I’m REALLY confident about the Rangers future, more so then the Giants honestly.
And thats not a negative, I’m just really excited about the Rangers.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
they have improved.
I will say that.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then the underlying issue is how we view this site.
I view this site as a place where I am safe. I can praise and criticize my team with my fellow fans without being attacked by jerks from another fan base.
I like to objectively view the team, and the mix of optimism and pessimism allows that, I just find it odd when the two sides criticize each other when neither is better then the other.
I cheer for the Giants just as much as you do, and I am emotionally effected by them just as much as well. But that doesn’t mean I can’t be worried about weaknesses with the team.
I hope they win every week, but that doesn’t mean I think they will.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Aug 14, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I appreciate this
but if you want the right to criticize the team, others have the right to critique your comments. That’s part and parcell of everyone’s right to speak their mind. I don’t get mad at people trying to criticize unless
A) its a longstanding complaint that’s been hashed out 17,000 times and there is no logical/practical/possible way to fix it that moment.
B) Like I said above, complainign for the sake of complaining. No suggestions that are new/original, and just vague generalizations about things “sucking”.
c) Making declarative statements about the future in an authortative manner. I’m guilty of this as well, but I like being more positive when I do it.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed 100%.
There are both sides to it of course.
We are allowed to criticize or praise whatever we wish, but that works for everyone.
I’m just personally tired of the whole “You’re not a true fan. You’re stupid.” argument every time there’s a disagreement.
It proves nothing.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I won't accuse anyone of not being a true fan
unless they are a Cowboys fan in NY ;) But I do believe a fan should be more positive than negative, because you should always be wishing/hoping/expecting the best. Otherwise, what’s the fun in even following sports? I really despise moroseness in a fan, because it negates the whole point about rooting for a team. I may have a hearty laugh at Skins fans thinking their team will go 10-6, but I’m not going to say they are behaving poorly. Just illogically.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed 100%
A fan should be positive. Other teams and their fans will be negative enough, we need to counter-act that.
I am optimistic of our chances, I think we will make the playoffs.
That doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to point out a fault however.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
yeah like people saying that we need to trade eli to whoever has the first pick in next years draft so we can draft andrew luck and finally get some REAL leadership on this team…lol.
In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.
"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon
by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats a fail lmao
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I think they will win every week,
at least I think they have a shot to win every week, if you don’t feel that way, you should. I’m not questioning anyone’s fandom or what have you, just coming here to only point out the bad things that happened to a bunch of people who are well educated about this team and football in general is like pointing out an apple tree in an orchard. We all watched the games, we all saw the bad plays, we know who it was, what it was, and we also know what needs to be fixed. Anyone can point that out to no end, but it gets old. Us fans know it was bad, the player knows it was bad, the coaches know it was bad. The latter two are working to fix it, we as fans, know they are working to fix it. So why dwell on it and for the extreme ones out there, say we are going to be so much worse than last year, our offense sucks, blah blah blah.
I guess I just have a problem with people coming here, as fans, and being consistently negative towards our team. I understand it from an Eagles or Cowboys fan, but why be that way with your own team. It blows my mind how you can cheer for a team every week, but think they are going to be bad every week. You contradict yourself.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is, not everyone realizes the positives just as not everyone realizes the negatives.
Its great to be optimistic, in its nature more productive than being pessimistic, but not to a fault.
If I come on here, and our unproven draft picks are considered better than proven NFL players on a regular basis, there is a fault in logic.
I never said they will be bad every week, so you are misconstruing my words once again. AND, it is perfectly logical to cheer for a team but not be confident about their chances.
If your buddy gets into a fight with a bigger kid, you know chances are he doesn’t win, but you are still pulling for him. Another example would be the government. I can criticize my government, but I still want them to succeed. Anything else would be foolish.
SO its entirely possible to lack confidence but still hope for the best. Its not contradictory at all.
And if you pay attention, I have never once called the Giants a bad team. I have stated numerous times I believe they will go 10-6 and make the playoffs. That doesn’t make them perfect however.
Please stop misquoting me.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
wasn't talking about you personally lol.
“You” as in “you all.” My bad.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. I assumed from the “You contradict yourself” it was obvious you meant me.
This is a very good team, a playoff team, but like any team, we have our faults. I don’t see anything wrong with pointing them out.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Yea "You contradict yourself"
talking to anyone in general. I agree with what you said as well. I will point out a negative when it is deserved, but I am overly optimistic at all times, so you know what you’re going to get from me. It’s those that can’t see past those negatives that I have an issue with. They see one bad game and it’s the Armageddon. They then state “This team is going nowhere this near” or something to that effect, without giving evidence as to why they feel that way. It is one thing to point out a fault, and discuss what can be done to correct it, it is another to point out a fault, and use it as the basis of an opinion that has no reasonable credibility to it.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
year.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Those people piss me off more than anything, but I feel that on this site people are automatically lumped into that group when they say one slightly negative thing about the team.
It’s frustrating.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I agree
100% !Let’s face it,we are all fans and if something is going bad for the Giants sometimes we NEED to vent. It’s nice to know we are not alone….that others feel as we do.It’s also nice to have someone talk you down if you get to close to the edge! lol
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
The biggest thing that bothers me
I hate when people make declarative statements about the future and don’t even acknowledge the possibility of being wrong. “We didn’t sign any big name FA’s so therefore we will be worse off then before. JR must have been asleep, he missed the start of FA. Eli threw a bunch of picks last year, he’s going to be just as bad as last year.” When someone thinks we need to improve the LB core, explain why. Don’t make blanket statements like “There’s a big, gaping hole at LB”. Negative comments for the sake of negativity, not discussion makes me immediately want to challenge someone.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
precisely.
When you make a negative remark about your team and the team we all love, you had better give explanation or reason behind it, otherwise, you sound like a fool, and a fake fan. This place is filled with people who are well educated about this team, and this game. Don’t come with empty negative comments about the team, you’re in for a long day. Give me reasons or examples, we can have a friendly debate about it. When you are steadfast in your empty opinion being right, that such and such will be terrible this year, you look like a dick. How do you know that none of these young players on the team will step up and perform better then any vet FAs we could have signed? Why are our linebackers so bad, Boley is a good coverage LB, Goff looks better than last year, and he played well last year. And Kiwi is one of our best all around players, he should make an impact at LB. To make an empty statement of negativity towards the one thing here we all have a common love in, the Giants is asinine. We can discuss negatives, like Brewer at LT looked lost last night, or ST looked bad still, need to work on tackling. But to make bold accusations about how aspects of this team will perform over the course of an entire season, based on how you feel, especially when it’s in such a negative light, is an insult to one’s respectability, education of the team, and fandom.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed 100%
But isn’t it just as bad when people make positive
declarative statements about the future and don’t even acknowledge the possibility of being wrong
??
Like, this X player will be great, and Y will improve. I love discussion and disagreement, and having an open-minded heading into a discussion leads to learning, but both sides are just as bad when they don’t support their claims.
Just my view.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I just acknowledged
that I do this :) But isn’t life better when you ahve a positive outlook? Why be afraid of disappointment, when the alternative is to always see the flaws, and thereby just sitting miserably waiting for something to go wrong and prove you right?
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
In real life, I am very optimistic in nature. Being the captain of numerous sports team, and president of numerous clubs, its my job to be optimistic.
Its how I am, and I doubt that will change.
In sports I am optimistic as well. I believe the Giants will go 10-6 and make the playoffs. Seems pretty optimistic to me, considering out schedule.
That doesn’t mean I don’t see the faults however.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I honestly don't think there is anyone
on this site who doesn’t see potential faults. I just think the pieces are in place to overcome those faults, and I’m not going to go complain about them. If the coaches/FO think they need fixing, they will try to do that with the available resources. I don’t understand every move (keeping Quinn for example), but I’d rather be optimistic about the team overcoming their faults than be morose about potential disappointment. Looking at the positives and being disappointed sometimes is still more fun than not looking for success every week and saying “see I was right, X,Y, and Z suck and they should be traded/cut/fired”.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats the difference then haha.
I think there are plenty of people on this site that don’t see a single fault on this team. Every negative thing they have an excuse for, and every player in blue is better then any player we don’t have.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Now you're catching on!!!!!
You must remember, true “fans” must be able to ignore the obvious and insist their team is superior in every way despite any evidence to the contrary. That is, if you don’t want to get attacked on this site.
It's not that at all
It’s the “the seasons already over before we’ve played a game” feel I get from some of the comments. We all have concerns, but save the gloom and doom for when we’re 1-5, not 0-0.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
by wilddre22 on Aug 14, 2011 8:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
****IF we're 1-5.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
People who say that are either a) overrecting, b) misguided, or c) unintelligent.
But not all people that criticize the team think the season is over.
I have criticized the team plenty, and I find many faults with the team as a whole, but I still think we will go 10-6 and make the playoffs.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Getting attacked
smh. People are allowed to disagree with your opinions without it being “an attack”. If someone puts a counter to your argument, and you don’t change your original statements but continue making the same claim, that gets frustrating to someone trying to have a discussion. I’m not saying you do it specifically, but alot of users have pretty thin skins. When the same point about LB/ST/JR/FAs is made for the 18,000th time in the 72nd post, it gets beyond annoying.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
True true.
But when you are attacked immediately by 5 people for being a fake, dumb fan because you say Eli is only the 10th best qb, that is frustrating as well.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
yup!
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
HA!!
he really does!
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
1000....
Number of Giant fans on BBV ready to throw in the towel after the 1st preseason game….all kidding aside what the hell is going on around here. They looked shitty but I’m over it! Time for them to really go to work now that we have some film of the 2011 Giants!
"bleedblue12 is an idiot"-wild_eagle
"The Eagles still have 0 SB wins"-bleedblue12
for all of us
including those of us who need to be more polite in our discussions with other Giant fans
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No it's not.
It’s time to fire Quinn (alright, I agree on that one), fire Gillbride, fire Coughlin, fire Reese, sign as many veteran FAs as possible and start Carr over Eli? Isn’t that what most Giants fans have been calling for? Or am I just hearing things?
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
Don't know what you've been reading. Haven't seen that here myself. A few FAs would have been nice. Zach Miller in my opinion.
And Quinn needs to go.
Miller would have been nice
not remotely possible unless we didn’t bring Bradshaw back, but it would have been nice.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
our scheme doesn't highly use pass catching tight ends
We’re Giants fans. We want to see a guy like Bear Pascoe come out of nowhere and drag people down the field
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Bavaro caught 66 passes
his second year and then only caught more than 50 twice in the 7 seasons afterwards. He was underused pretty mightily.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say 50 to a TE is utilizing. That's 3 per game.
Not exactly underutilized. Point is, they threw to the TE. And that was when the NFL was a run first league.
If they had done that
his whole career, I’d definitely agree. But four seasons with less than 50 catches when he proved he could do more, was not using him to his full advantage.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ah! the science of attempting to make people’s legit concerns look so stupid and silly that your own ideas are the only real ones. Nice.
Yes Quinn should go. Gillbride is ok, but very predictable even when not running the vanilla offense. I doubt most Giants fans have a problem with Coughlin or Reese. Don’t want to sign large numbers of veteran FAs though 1 or 2 in addition to our own FAs might be nice.
And the Carr over Eli thing just makes you sound idiotic. I know that was sort of the point, you wanted to over exaggerate but come on.
You wouldn't be saying that if you had seen it, like I have.
Go to the BBV Comedy thread in fanposts, you will see all those crazy idea, and more. And yes, there is one that suggests Carr should start. I wasn’t exaggerating, I was however, being sarcastic.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
well i thought we needed Cam Newton.
In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.
"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon
by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right, my bad.
Especially after that awe inspiring performance Newton had against our 2nd and 3rd stringers. He’s the next Randall Cunningham.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 15, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Quinn does need to go.
It was a joke gmen. Read facebook or ESPN, most of the Giants fans there are saying things to that extent. It’s pretty bad. We might see a sudden spike in suicides in the NY/NJ area.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
They discuss Nietzsche
Blocking is dead
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I choose to stay off of social media sites where I'm expected to post my most recent fart and all my "friends" reaction to it.
However, I see your point about ESPN.
the thing is
the world no longer lets you stay out of social media sites. you don’t have to fart yourself, but you have to sit in the room where others have done so
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it does.
Just refuse to open an account.
Interestingly, some on NFL network, despite their poor coverage of our team, feel we are capable of making a run.
But we need to clean up the tackling and big play give ups. And Quinn needs to go.
he tells them...
Quin = “you go here…
you go here…
and you go over here…
but you, you have to go waaay over here
…okay guys, when the ball is snapped…
ready?
go!”
team = “huh?”
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
by 27Tango on Aug 14, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lmao!! rec’d
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Oh and Andre Brown keeps making strides, he'll knock Ware out
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
I'm bankin' on it!
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
Bad stuff
Dillard – that guys becoming a long shot, on my depth chart he sank to 4th
Brewer mentioned above – people thought Beatty was a project, ouch
I liked how Sash battled back, but the scorch marks from the TD were bad
"That's mostly fans who say that kind of stuff and they really don't understand the process. We have good players on the team. We're not looking to go out and make every sexy splash that can be made. We make solid football decisions. That's been happening for a long time," Reese said
Olsen is a damn good
receiving TE. That was Sash’s what, fourth play as a professional? Yeah it looked ugly but I don’t blame Sash at all for that. In fact him coming back and laying wood the rest of the game raised him in my eyes.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
In some people on this cite, Beckum is just as good as Olsen.
So take your pick. If Olsen is damn good, so is Beckum. If he’s that good, he should be able to contribute during games.
If Olsen isn’t good, then Beckum isn’t either, and Sash not being able to cover him doesn’t bode well.
Just using logic of some people on this site :)
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
wow, maybe you could follow that
but yes, Olson looked great. And being a big=time Shockey hater, he seemed more matured in his interview. Sometimes hard to remember that these guys are only kids when they start.
Young QB’s need strong TE’s.
A real challenger to Eli not to ever have given him one.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
I guess we did give him Shockey at the very beginning. Okay, maybe time to rehabilitate the guy……….no please no……….
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Olsen is one of the best
at pure catching. That idiot Martz criminally underutilized him, and then got rid of him like he was a bad temptation. I believe Beckum can be good, people that follow Big Ten football religiously say that he can be a Dallas Clark type (type, maybe not as great, but still good). I think at this stage, Beckum probably would be beating Sash in a game situation.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If we could get anything close to a Dallas Clark type player out of him I would do JPP backflips.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Maybe those people are wrong and Beckum shouldn't be compared to a 5 year starter?
Olsen is a pretty good TE, Beckum hasn’t shown that he’s either a bad TE or a good TE because he hasn’t played much in live games.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 14, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Yea Dillard and Ingram appear to be the low men on the totum poll.
Dillard is spectacularly unimpressive, and Ingram made a handful of mistakes that other linebackers ahead of him, or behind him, didn’t make.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
I thought Ingram did fine
he was playing with the 2nd team LB, it looks like he will make the team. He had that one penalty on him but otherwise he was always around the ball.
To me it looked like Herzlich is the most likely to get cut because he was playing strong side LB with the 3rd team, which with the return of Sintim would push him back to 4th on the depth chart.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Aug 14, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Sash's Kwillie was the perfect assessment of his game.
He got burnt bad on that TD, and on another deep ball to a TE. BUt he made a couple nice plays, forcing the fumble, broke up a potential completion. Kwillie game if there ever was one. He honestly showed he has all the tools, he’s just God awful slow. As evidence by beating burnt deep twice by TEs.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
I think he will really improve.
Was it me or did Phillips look dreadful again on that first throw from Claussen?
he wasn't good everytime I saw him, out of position
bad angle to the ball, timing in on receivers looked off. But that was like only 3-4 plays that I actually saw him.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
I think
it was more that he was out of position than slow.He ran a 4.62+4.61 40 at the combine so he’s really not slow.More playing time (and some coaching)should fix that.Don’t forget he’s a rookie in his first preseason game.
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
That is pure...
Justice.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
wow
love it.. is there one for JR too
"misinformed and don’t have your eyes open. It’s also clear you didn’t watch all the games. I’m correct, about that, aren’t I?"
"You seem to speak from a point of knowledge, when in fact its obvious you haven’t been watching. Certainly not all of the games. Those of us that have see the weaknesses, and the strengths of our team. You seem to have some blind faith that all is well."
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 14, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad you liked it
I was debating between this and
TOM QUINN
GET ON
by Oppenheimer919 on Aug 14, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
on the good side. . .
Coughlin’s face looks to be in mid season (late season?) form.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
nah. . . I like Coughlin
and the face I mean is the “what the fuck are they doing out there?” look.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
this is the best of all of the observations of the game
his scarecrow from the wizard of oz look. mid-season form.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
+10000000000.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions
Oh.
Watching the replay and Coughlin is screaming at Ross about one of his missed tackles.
He looked awful yesterday
*** San Antonio needs a NFL team! ***
by SanAntonioGiant on Aug 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
BEAST!
*** San Antonio needs a NFL team! ***
by SanAntonioGiant on Aug 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
they should have kept him in for CAM
:) just saying
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
I woulda luvd to see him vs Cam
Kinda makes you 4get bout Osi…
*** San Antonio needs a NFL team! ***
by SanAntonioGiant on Aug 14, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrell Thomas.
Can you please not slap the shit out of our future pro bowl DE next time he gets a sack. Thank you.
Sincerely, every Giants fan everywhere. :)
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the second one
He destroys Clausen
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
garbage
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 14, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF??
Who is?
*** San Antonio needs a NFL team! ***
by SanAntonioGiant on Aug 14, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
JPP
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 15, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He's joking
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
LAST NIGHT
They looked pathetic in every area, playing the worst team in the NFL from last years season and the Giants did NOTHING. The play calling was as bad as ever, special teams seem to get worse every year but it is important to TC SO HE SAYS? How bad would we be if he didn’t care about ST ?? Tynes was his usual inconsistent self. The secondary did not look good …oh I am tired of thinking about what I witnessed last night…I guess we can only get better RIGHT :)
playcalling is meaningless in preseason
They’re not game planning against the opposition, they’re practicing standard plays.
They’re more interested in seeing if guys know their assignments and improve technique than they are in game planning the opposition.
Though they learned last night they have more teaching to do on both of those fronts. No surprise there.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Tynes was real inconsistent last year.
19 of 23 on FGA. Terrible, he missed 4, what’s wrong with him???
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
just saw that hit on Tynes
that’s no bruise, that knee hyperextended.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Theyre callin it a bruise
Either way I wouldnt play him at all in the Preseason!
*** San Antonio needs a NFL team! ***
by SanAntonioGiant on Aug 14, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go to that extent...
maybe have him sit the next one out, if it really needs some time to heal and have him come back for the 3rd and 4th preseason games
but they really should see how Dodge does with kick offs at the very least, not the FGs. or maybe even that too…who knows, it’ll interesting to see if he can handle those too.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
no official word, but. . .
my guess is some soft tissue or ligament sprain at the least, hopefully no tear.
The hit was above the knee but it pushed his leg down into the turf with his heel dug in and the momentum of the hit pushed his lower leg forward further than it should go, because it forced the knee to pop out a bit.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
That last sentence saved you...
from making candid appearance on the BBV Comedy Thread.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
See that is the $hit I'm talking about on the other post.
Why come on here and post that comment. That is the most anti fan thing you can say about your so called team. Just make up a bunch of stuff you think is bad, saying they suck, terrible as usual, when there is no factual basis for such comments. Just negative, pessimistic fans. It’s disdainful. Why be that way.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.
Observation is fan, but when you just realize the bad and not the good, you are just as bad as the people that realize the bad and not the good.
We good?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
your latter part I think should read
.. just as bad as the people that realize the good and not the bad
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
I wanted to see who would catch it first.
You win the award for being the most observant on the site!
And yeah. Let’s try again.
Observation is fine, but when you realize the bad and not the good, you are just as bad as the people that realize the good and not the bad.
We Good?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
first off I'd like to thank God
for giving me my natural talents,
my parents for giving birth to this here awesomeness
and to all of the BBV community for their support…
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
To my coach who believed in me
and gave me a chance, to my agent for only taking 3% and not 5%, for my sixth grade teacher for teaching me how to read…
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You learned how to read in 6th grade?
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
LOL, a little late isn't that?
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a tad.
But hey, better late then never.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Just following
the thread 27Tango started :)
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
likely story :P
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Quote
Update:
“Tynes (thigh) will undergo an MRI on Sunday, the Newark Star-Ledger reports. Tynes, who said he had a "thigh bruise" that was "pretty sore," said he felt the pain in the middle of his right quadriceps. He was able to jog off the field and walk to the locker room, which he took as a good sign.”
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
Hey he's Scottish
Whatever happened to Brave Heart? Should be like the Black Night in Monty Python.
I am a fan of Kevin Gilbride and I don't care what you say
by Spider Lockhart on Aug 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing wrong with the knee, the hit was on the thigh.
The knee may have been hyper extended, but ice and rest fixes that. He may have a deep bone bruise, which takes about 3 weeks for all pain and discomfort to go away.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
I want to see Dodge do some kick offs.
I'm down with J.P.P.
Yeah you know me...
and secret agents
#13 & #47
he will be.
No way Tynes plays next week. Dodge will get a chance to do the kickoffs. My assumption is they sign Shayne Graham or Suisham to kick field goals for a couple weeks.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
SHAYNE GRAHAM!!?
HELL NO.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
Yeah
dude might have kicked himself out of the league after the Skins/Steelers game.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yea i'd go with Suisham as well.
Either way, they are going to be on the roster for 2 weeks at most until Tynes is ready. They’ll be on the team to kick FGs in the preseason, that is all.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
John Kasay is available?
I know he’s old but if Dodge can kickoff he should still be able to make the chip-shots.(at least for a few weeks)
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
Anyone else worried over Aaron Ross?
At least he didn’t get hurt yet, but he looked horrible last night, missing tackles against
no-name second-teamers on the worst team in the league last year.
Thank God it’s only the first preseason game, Prince get better soon!
yes...something was up
he’s better than that. He did look horrible…
Let's agree to disagree - right after you admit that you're completely wrong.
Don't want to be a dick,
but having the worst record and being the worst team are not always synonymous. Case in point were that many of the most sought after FAs were Panthers. This was a very solid team undone by unimaginative lame duck coaching, injuries, and rookies in the passing game. The Giants faced a team last night with good talent at its base energized by the new coaching regime and their agressive offensive and defensive schemes. Emotionally, they’re a hugely different team than last year’s. There is no shame in losing any game, and a practice one at that, to a quality opponent. The Panthers have obviously added talent (Newton, Olsen), while 2nd year players have made huge strides (Clausen, Armanti Edwards). Wait until the 9 starters who didn’t play last night suit up and start crushing it. Take the over on the Vegas odds right now and you’ll be happy.
I just realized that
Our 7th round pick Da’rel Scott was 3rd fastet in the combine last combine. I hope he plays way more in this Preseason.
"Hating the Yankees is as American as pizza pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income tax." - Columnist Mike Royko
"My office is at Yankee stadium. Yes, dreams do come true."
- Derek Jeter
"I may not have been the best Yankee to put on the pinstripes, but I am the proudest." - Billy Martin
Earn Your [Pin]Stripes
fastest*
"Hating the Yankees is as American as pizza pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income tax." - Columnist Mike Royko
"My office is at Yankee stadium. Yes, dreams do come true."
- Derek Jeter
"I may not have been the best Yankee to put on the pinstripes, but I am the proudest." - Billy Martin
Earn Your [Pin]Stripes
kiwi
from what i saw, looked a little slow. we still dont have an answer for a good TE aka Celek Witten and maybe even Cooley. i thought the kid austin looked pretty good. and lets remember, JPP was going against a PROFESSIONAL tackle.
on the offensive side, liked the way andre brown ran when his head down. i like the bunch package with bear and hyno and brandon behind them, hakeem in the slot just missed two deep balls, and diehl looks very comfortable in his natural position.
remember, they have only practiced like 7 days.
overall, stuff to work on, but stuff to be happy about.
dont get me started on the tackling or the special teams. and by the way, if weatherford and dodge are essentially tied going into the 1st game, Dodge will win. far more upside. i cant believe i said upside when referring to a punter.
I think with Kiwi
just needs some reps…
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
What a hero... smh
Osi makes it seem like he’s doing this for the fans… he gets paid well and yet he complains. If you and I did that at our jobs, we would be canned.
He also said that the incentives were a joke
they were insulting when he “sacrificed his health for the team”
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really excited...
for Osi to come back and be our 3rd Defensive End.
"They're going to expect me to go out there and play better to win games, and I expect that from myself, ... There's no reason for me not to go out there and play at a high level."- Eli Manning
SB 42 was forever ago, that being said, we need to try and pick up a good GM in the free agency!!!!
by ManningHam and Cheese on Aug 14, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
BACK UP!
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, let them have their fun for now.
We don’t really have any ammo to call them out till postgame week 3 anyway.
It's funny to say this about a team that plays where they play, but the New York Giants like it when nobody notices them. They like being forgotten, underestimated, treated as an afterthought. They're OK with the Jets getting all the back-page-tabloid attention and the Eagles being the big offseason story because of their free-agent shopping spree. The Giants believe in their own way of doing things, and if that means lying in the weeds while people on the outside are distracted by other teams that are hot at the moment, that's fine with them.
- Dan Graziano
by BigBlueIntervention on Aug 14, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
but somehow “they’re in our heads”. They sure do spend alot of time over there on Giants related material.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 14, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The game lastnight was disapointing no doubt about it
But we should not worry AT ALL. This is the first preseason game after a lockout. How many team in the REGULAR season start off slow and pick it up and make the playoffs? We are worried about starting slow in the preseason?…….. I am worried about the Punt coverage and our Special Teams but only because that was a major weakness last year
Hey guys
first post here, new to BBV. looks like an awesome place. is there anything i should know ?
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Welcome!
Um… Don’t make too many negative remarks about the giants :)
And game threads are really fun. You should join us in them
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
lol
welcome netsareboss
You may see this alot on here “goodyear blimp” or “win the superblow”.
this thread will answer it for you
http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/8/5/2347214/big-blue-view-comedy-thread
"misinformed and don’t have your eyes open. It’s also clear you didn’t watch all the games. I’m correct, about that, aren’t I?"
"You seem to speak from a point of knowledge, when in fact its obvious you haven’t been watching. Certainly not all of the games. Those of us that have see the weaknesses, and the strengths of our team. You seem to have some blind faith that all is well."
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 14, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't eat yellow Snow
Kidding, welcome to the land over here
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
JPP looks great but
one serious injury and if we don’t have Osi we’re in trouble. Don’t forget Kiwi is coming back from what was considered a career ending injury.
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