'Kudos & Wet Willies:' Reviewing The Giants First Preseason Game

I am Ross’s biggest fan and I think he deserved a kwillie.

remember he was injured for the most part of 2 years. The tackling was atrocious all around, but that is too be expected with only 5 practices with pads. But what I liked about him was he was always in great position on the run support. If he makes those 3 tackles we would be talking about how awesome he was. He did start making a lot of tackles towards the end of the game.

He was in chase mode for 2 passes. One where he got beat and Newton over threw his WR. and the second when he was in soft zone was expecting safety help. Apart from that he was really solid.. Especially when he ripped the arms back from a WR trying to catch a ball.. that was badass. (btw that route is nearly undefendable, and he did an excellent job defending it.)

I think the left him out there with the 2 and 3’s just so he could get his sea legs back.

hey the packers were out shined by the browns last night. Every team needs some work especially with so little time to gel this off season.

They looked pretty good. Thier run game, Kick return and receiving corp gave us problem to a certain degree and Newton managed to carry his team down field and score against our first string Defense(?) with a certain degree of ease. We need to be more prepared should we face them again.

It was unbelievable

for Tom Quinn to get fired in the middle of this season? I am a sick man for wanting it to happen so he will be fired?

After last season’s disaster with the eagles and to open the preseason the same? It’s time for Coughlin to look for a new special teams coach before the season starts.

but that guy (and I don’t really want to give him credit b/c it is partly his fault) did do his job as far as getting the personnel together for the ST teams and drawing up their assignments…

I DO have to say that if the tackling were spot on with 1 or 2 misses (acceptable per game), then I think it would have been a different case in terms of Coverage teams. A lot of times, there was a blue shirt there, but waaaay too many whiffs.

On Blocking personnel, that was a whole nother story. OMG – execution was plain horrible. This is where I can see TC should be all over that DUDE, but really it would be a tough position for TC to deal with.

It’s almost like 50/50, that DUDE’s fault and his personnel not executing. And yes, I believe, poor execution is a direct result of poor coaching MOST times. So, I’m just playing the devil’s advocate, I am definitely in the “let him go camp”…just trying to see it more rationally.

I’m on high alert with the ST’s because I feel like we have no chance of getting better under Quinn. My only hope is that new guy assistant they hired will impose his will on the units.

Ed and everyone else i went off a little bit there but it bugs me that everyones talking about him getting beat and Ed remeber what u said about the offense 11 practices and 5 in pads but those are all this kid has as a pro cut him some slack

he deserves more of a Kudos to me, his positive play making was really nice to see. And his positives definitely out weighed any negatives. It wasn’t a 50/50 thing, more like a 75/25 thing in my eyes. So, hence the Kudos. He gave up a TD, but more than made up for it later with a TD saving play and a FF. Including other plays good and bad. But for a learning curve of 10 days, and a 6th rd choice, hell that’s Kudos. Looks like JR hit gold early on this one.

I didn’t see anything from Hynoceros, and I want to.

Gilbride shouldn’t even be here. The offense struggle on 3rd down conversions. play-caling is still predictable. His tendency to utilize short dunk passes wastes downs and time. I fail to understand why he keeps trying to use Ware as a power runner.

hmmm….Looked like Gilbride was in full regular season play calling mode to me. Maybe I am not an “expert” but I saw little difference between this “vanilla” offense and the real thing.

play calling nah

Not so sharp.

at 1pm EST I believe.

He’s gotta get his body into NFL shape, which is different from his college size. You can see the gains that second year players make once they’ve been in a great training program for a year.

And was held very very badly, no call that resulted in the play where a Giants defender tipped the pass in mid air and the Panthers WR made a shoe string catch for a big gain. One of the most obvious holding calls I’ve ever not seen. Austin was flailing his free arm around, clearly being held, with the guards arm across his neck holding his shoulder pads on the other side. Terrible officiating. either they get that call, no big play, or if he’s not being held, that’s a sack for Austin. He looked strong, just gotta work on his pad height, get under the o-lineman.

I get it we’re only 10 practices in, but so are they. I mean… it looked unfair. We made thier special’s look awesome.

There is simply no cohesive thought to the coverage. It’s as if they are all just freelancing. And the same goes for the return game, it’s largely just one on one with no thought to creating a lane for the returner.

In short, as a fan, I am disgusted that we are about to sit through another year of Tom Quinn’s incompitence. It doesn’t matter what kind of talent we put on specials, it will be wasted by this guy. We all worried that ST’s would cost us last year, and it did (game that shall not be mentioned) and I fear we will see the same BS this year.

It is inexcusable that he is still a part of this team.

For those who go to the stadium this season may I suggest a chant against Quinn should start early and often.

I don’t think the dudes we had were that talented.

That’s why I was actually impressed with how the first team OL performed last night, given its their first live action. In absolute terms, yeah it wasn’t pretty, but in relative terms, it could’ve been worse. I think Beatty performed worse than Baas, but yeah, Baas could’ve done better.

I agree with you, mac, I’m friggin’ excited about our receivers. I’ve been pushing for a Nicks-Manningham-Hixon trio for awhile, and man, would that look good. Thomas too…what really impressed me was the route running both had, all crisp even in the rain, and also by how tough they were and cognizant of the 1st down marker….those are all aspects needed for the prototypical 3rd down receiver. As for Hixon in the slot, I counted about 3-4 plays from the slot.

Goff and Herzlich weren’t really noteworthy, but credit Herzlich for not getting caught out of position and, obviously, I was paying close attention to him and saw that he diagnosed plays damn quick.

Other than being a high draft pick, how does Barden make this squad?

Reason 1.
Hes recovering from injury.
Reason 2.
He give’s us an instant redzone threat.

Lets let him get on the field before the pessimism kicks in.

Got a mention, really. Shoot, the guy gets ‘kudos’ just for being on an NFL field.

I really do, but the Panthers are in a different situation than us. As an extremely young team with a new coaching staff, they’re all fighting for position. No one is guaranteed a spot. So they can have more full contact practices. The giants on the other hand have a more veteran team. Spots are all but set at pretty much every possession. The important thing for is to make it through the preseason healthy.

If we see more of the same next week.

I couldn’t think of an example getting ready for work and looking here. This offense looked like the regular season offense. That is what makes people angry.

Good point.

If there ever is a time to try new plays, its not.

Not the same tired excuse of a 3rd and short play.

other than that I understand everything else.

I mean it’s okay if we do run that play, but on that particular scenario of 3rd and 4 or something (if I remember correctly)…it was utter useless, esp. since there was a guy completely unblock literally waiting for the RB (i think ware or scott #1) to run into his waiting arms 2 steps in front of him when he got the handoff.

But, the flip side to that is if it were a mistake (having the one guy completely untouched for the tackle) then it shows the coaching staff who was at fault for a correction, etc. (the positives to take from it)

But all in all it is preseason, and I had no problems with play calling what so ever. The preseason game happens to see how you execute what you learned during practices, how you jell with your team against real live competition, what happens during individual battles with the person in front of you (either on the depth chart or on the opposing teams).

and I thought the Giants drafted to help the ST this year.

on the Mara’s

where the CB had his hand in there(interference wasn’t called but should have)

but he’s made that pass in the past, I don’t expect that to never happen.

Because there was a safety coming fast but I agree Eli has to make that pass and when the chips are down I believe 100% that he’ll make that throw 9 out of 10 times.

Are the kind of plays you miss when you are two weeks into a season where you had no offseason mini-camps. It’s the first preseason game. Relax!

I agree, it’s early but he needs a wet willie for this 1 particular preseason GAME.

whats up Ghost join the fray on your boy Barden

JPP and Canty….I can’t wait.

Were gonna hurt QBs this year. More so than before too.

hmm…wonder why he is starting to do well….hmmm

Or have Tuck LE, Osi RE
And the kid sub frequently for both and Tuck will slide inside on 3rd and long alot.

if JPP is for real how can you justify starting Osi? JPP looks like he’s poised to be a 2005 Osi clone while Osi is merely the sultan of swat.

JPP doesn’t seem to concerned, seems like a real good kid and will play wherever the coaches tell him. But Osi? You know damn well that if she isn’t starting there isn’t enough Midol in the world to make her pipe down.

He doesn’t need to be playing any deeper than 5-10 yards off the LOS..ever.
He also looks like he has trouble ranging to the sideline and protecting his legs from OL,thus far…
Ditto on the sloppy tackling but that will come around

But 4 defensive ends becomes 3 defensive ends becomes 2 defensive ends in a real hurry in the NFL. And these guys are like race horses. You don’t want them to overheat.

not even an injury..but 2 injuries could do it.
I’d rather have all 4.
They will be so much fresher at the end of the season than the OL they face.

Because osi will have to play like there’s a hungry wolf nipping at his ankles to keep his job.

They put him in the slot but he couldn’t hold on to it. The WR field for us is pretty full. He could make the team if he relaxes, he seems a bit nervous this year. Undrafted Free Agent. They try so hard, sometimes they fail.

..starting slot WR..worst case scenario,he gets cut and winds up a Deadskin

a lot more time for them to work on it b4 the Bears game.