New York Giants Notes: Steve Smith Reactions Edition
by Ed Valentine on Aug 11, 2011 8:38 AM EDT
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New York Giants news this morning is still all about Steve Smith. It's Steve Smith signs with the Philadelphia Eagles Hangover Day. So, let's devote this notebook to the reactions around the Inter-Google. And if you want the real vitriol, you can always visit Smith's Facebook page -- where some of the disgusting things being written by Giants fans are pretty embarrassing.
Paul Dottino: Former Giants WR Steve Smith Flies South To Philadelphia Eagles " CBS New York
Make no mistake about it, Smith was a very important part of the Giants’ offense and developed a very strong connection with quarterback Eli Manning. Since Super Bowl XLII, Manning has lost – among others – Smith, Plaxico Burress and Kevin Boss. So much for that clutch passing attack.
There’s no doubt the Giants wanted a healthy Smith to resume his pairing with Manning. None at all. And nobody is foolish enough to say the Giants are better off without Smith. They are not. But this is a receiver who is coming off very serious knee surgery and has decided he’s getting back on the field faster than the Giants’ doctors would recommend (for his own safety).
So the questions GM Jerry Reese had to answer, given his salary-cap contraints, were: How much of the original Smith will be seen on the field? And what are the chances he’ll be able remain in the lineup for the remaining of the season once he takes that first snap?
The Giants must not have felt too good about those answers, otherwise, there’s no logical explanation for Smith landing down the Turnpike.
Did they make a mistake? It might take the entire season to decide.
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Yeah, Steve Smith left to sign with the Eagles. No, that's not a good thing for the Giants, who'd hoped to re-sign him. But they were already preparing for life without him, since they didn't expect him to return from his knee injury and contribute right away. It's a tough break for the Giants, who haven't had a very successful free-agency period. It's another score for the Eagles, who have had the most successful one of any team in the league. But I think it's easy to lose sight of the fact that not every team has to kill it in free agency in order to be a good team.
I get called out here very often for being only negative/never positive about the Giants. This criticism is unfair and inaccurate, of course, and I fully expect this missive to be forgotten the next time a Giants fan wants to get on me for writing something about the team that isn't 100 percent positive. But the Giants, remember, won 10 games last year. Their starting lineup is loaded with very good players on offense and defense. Eli Manning is a top-10 quarterback, Hakeem Nicks is emerging as a top young receiver and they remain stacked in the running game. The defensive line, led by Justin Tuck, is also deep and talented, and the starting secondary looks stellar in practice. If they keep their key guys healthy, the fact that they couldn't get anything done in free agency shouldn't stop them from being a playoff contender.
This has also been my theme. The Giants are still good, regardless of the last couple of weeks.
Eagles' signing of Smith low-risk move - CBSSports.com
I guess what I'm saying is that regardless of what happens to Maclin, the Eagles were looking for help at wide receiver and jumped when Smith became available. And why not? It's a low-risk, high-reward signing.
First of all, it hurts a division rival. Smith was a key component of the Giants' passing game. Second, it makes the Eagles stronger at a position where they appear loaded, with DeSean Jackson, Smith, Maclin, Jason Avant and Riley Cooper. Third, no matter when he plays, the Eagles are convinced they found a slot receiver who can catch balls in traffic -- a perfect complement to Jackson and Maclin.
It all makes sense ...again.
Time for Moss to grow on Giants - NYPOST.com
It is a dagger to the heart of Giant fans already beside themselves over the loss of Plaxico Burress to the Jets and Kevin Boss to the Raiders and the absence of any free-agent splash from GM Jerry Reese at a time when the Eagles are swooping down and grabbing a slew of marquee names.
This brazen heist, from right under Big Blue’s nose, will only ratchet up the white-hot rivalry between the teams and cause consternation, if not shock, within the walls of the Timex Performance Center.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Jerry Reese needs to pick up the telephone and see if Randy Moss might be interested in coming out of retirement.
You heard me right.
Randy Moss. Sometimes you need to fight fire with fire, and this is one of those times.
This is the panicked, typical, stir up the masses non-sensical New York Post reaction. Forget Moss. How about we get excited for the opportunity now sitting in front of Victor Cruz, Jerrel Jernigan and Ramses Barden?
Giants had better hope general manager Jerry Reese's plan is the right one | NJ.com
I was with the Giants on the Ahmad Bradshaw situation. They had no business overpaying there. They didn't, and they got their man. Good for them.
I did not agree with the team letting Kevin Boss leave for a deal from the Raiders they could have matched, if not at least come close to matching. Given the market and their backups, Boss was a guy they should have retained. Still, I was reminding fans ready to jump off the ledge the season doesn't start until a month from now. The Giants are still tied for first with the Eagles ... and everybody else, for that matter.
But now, after seeing Steve Smith sign for one year and $4 million with the Eagles, I'm completely baffled on this one. What is going on in the Giants' front office? I mean, seriously, what is going on right now?
I'll tell you what's going on: for the first time, Jerry Reese's seat must be getting warm.
This I do agree with. Reese has taken a stance here that many of the players he has drafted who have not yet had a full opportunity are ready for bigger roles with this team. The Giants' season hinges largely on whether or not the GM is right.
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After yesterdays news
I was expecting to see that we traded Eli and Tuck to Dallas for two 5th round picks in the 2015 draft
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
this can be
A silver lining….I actualluy think our offense will be forced to be more creative ! The D may have to carry us a bit as we find our footing on O…by the time SS12 was to hit the field…who’s to say our Offense wld not be an upper echelon squad !
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Aug 11, 2011 8:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This team was always meant to be built upon the Defense.
And now more than recently, I expect the D to do so, and successfully. We were going to be w/o SS for a lot of this year, but im sure Eli will be ok with handing it off to Big Baby Jacobs and AB. With Ham and NIcks spreading teh field vertically, we shouldnt have a problem fitting in a slot wr with all the young fast, quick slot wr’s we have right now. The only obsticle would be to getting/keeping those players healthy and having them learn the playbook enough to where TC feels they wont fk up on the field mentally.
Im big on Steve smith, but a microfracture injury to a guy whose game relies on quick cuts and breaks 80% of the tiem…it lessens this sting.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
This is 2011
Offense is supreme these days. The rules are made for QBs and WRs, teams are winning without big time RBs. A team cannot be built only on Defense and RBs in the current NFL.
wrong
steelers… ravens. 2 dominate teams year after year.. what do they do? run and play nasty D
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
How many Super Bowls have the Ravens won in the last 10 years? Who are the great Steeler RBs since The Bus? Who plays RB for the Ravens and Steelers right now?
none.. but how many have the steelers won? several
but the ravens are deep in the playoffs every single year. ummm do you watch football? steelers RB is Mendenhall. Ravens is Ray Rice. two of the best young RBs in the league. Both of those teams win with good RBs, a rough O line, and ferocious D. That is also how thwe Giants won a superbowl only 3 years ago
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Mendenhall had less then 80 yard per game for the Steelers last year. Rice had less then 80 yards per game for the Ravens. The Super Bowl Champion Packers top 2 RBs had less then 1000 yards combined. The league is changing, but Giants fans are not changing with it.
since when is 80 yards a game a bad thing?
80×16 games is over 1200 yards.. thats a pretty successful year for any RB. just because teams are passing more doesnt mean running and D doesnt work anymore. if teams cant stop the run, and have trouble moving the ball on your D, how is that a bad thing?
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember the PAck had a lot go down
Their main RB wasn’t on the field for most of the season. They patched a lot of holes to get to where they were. It’s not about how much firepower you have, it’s how much you can sustain it.
If Vick goes down, Philly is toast.
Have you forgotten who is STILL on the team?
While losing a great possession receiver like Smith hurts, he was also coming off a pretty serious injury. And he wasn’t going to be playing til mid season. Nicks is a top 10 receiver and you HAVE to pay him when he’s due. AB is signed. The WR corps is deep. And wasn’t SS an unproven player at one point? Who’s to say Cruz or Jernigan is the next Smith? I think the widespread panic in some of these posts is way to early. And Eli will have an even better repor with the current receivers and hopefully they’ll catch more of those passes that went off their hands.
At this point, it's too early to worry, or feel good....
Roster construction is an art form, but it’s one that can be torn to shreds with injuries. If we’re healthy, we’re still a playoff bound team, if the Eagles lose a couple of key players during the preseason, they may not be. I’m not wishing injury on anyone, but it’s just too early to get into a total panic about anything. The final rosters aren’t done yet, the preseason is yet to come, more moves may yet be made, and every team is an injury or two from falling to a lost season from being playoff bound.
For sure...
Too early to panic, still have a great group of players. They will just have to create more chemistry between the newer players, that is the NFL people. We still will be able to pick up veteran players once the cuts start to happen.
by oldschoolblue64 on Aug 11, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Cotchery?
On the cheap
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I'd def be down.
Hes been a good middle of the pack over acheiver for the Jets for a while. A vet, crafty, and proven to be able to go up and get it in traffic.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
AT this point, Reese has to do something to calm the fans down
Or show he is alive. Cotchery would be a great pickup.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
thats actually a great idea
or Hoosh
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Did nothing last year
Or the year before that. Great talent, but left it in Cincy.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
that probably should happen
but its not. He was actually cut by the Jest for a reason, he’s hurt (wonder what they said on his facebook page…). And I think the WRs in camp are doing too good right now to go make a move like that.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I think Cotchery was upset at management always ignoring him
Going back to the double moves for Edwards and Holmes – basically saying: “You’re no good enough.” Same this offseason.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Randy Moss LOL!
Through all the mess of posts yesterday, someone brought up how the Giants most likely could’ve matched the salary, but also there was the idea that the Giants with the team doctor that actually did the surgery, suggested that Smith shouldn’t be getting on the field as early as he wants. And now the Eagles are saying that he can get on the field early. This is probably why he signed there.
The Giants were looking out for his long term health. I dunno what Steve is thinking, but it just seems its proving the ‘doubters’ wrong. I’m sure the Eagles don’t give a crap about whether his long term health is a concern. If there’s a team in the NFL that’s cutthroat about giving their own players a big contract, its the Eagles (why the HELL do you think they have all this cap room?)
I hope Steve gets lucky and doesn’t reinjure himself.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
No Moss, no T.O.
No Crowder, no whiny bastards from anywhere else.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
As an Eagles fan I have to agree with you here
I think the FO could care less about his health….they’re just using his body/skill for a year and apparently 2mill is worth that….if he breaks down the FO will just dump him like hot trash and move on with their lives while his career is in jepordy….
See Leonard Weaver
"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR
Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....
That's not true.
I’m sure the Eagles care about all their players, Weaver was done, his knee was damaged and from what I read come TC time he was still walking with a severe limp. We had to cut him or pay his salary.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
it's suspicious
that the team doctors that have been following him since he got hurt say he won’t be ready until midseason, then a division rival steps in and surprise! He could be ready to go early on. Seems like a risk they are perfectly willing to take.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 11, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
See I think the Eagles view it as a low risk-high reward type of situation.
We’re loaded at WR (if Maclin’s healthy) and if Maclin’s out Steve will most likely play quite a bit on the outside. If he produces well enough the Eagles sign him long term.. Both parties are happy.
Also you need to keep in mind the Eagles have taken a lot of big risks on injured players over the years and have one (if not the) best training staffs in the NFL. Reid and Co trust them with everything.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
The real issue
is that we needed SS12 in the locker room and the practice field more than game day. The young receiver corp needs a mentor, a leader that has seen the gammit of what the NFL can throw at you. I am now concerned about the maturity level for the receivers.
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Aug 11, 2011 8:53 AM EDT reply actions
Eli made Steve Smith
He’ll make whoever take his place.
It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.
by tito (eight and oh) on Aug 11, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Put me in coach!
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
Ode
to Dan Fogelsberg,…I’m ready to play!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
realest statement i have read
since the news broke about SS12 goin to philly. rec’d sir
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
nice
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
stop making sense
The ship is sinking, and it’s time to get a life preserver!!!!!!!!!
You down wit JPP?
by Flynner on Aug 11, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how could he?
how could Eli make anyone? He’s not a leader. He didn’t take a pay cut. Trade Eli
SARCASM!
So you're saying
TE’s aren’t supposed to come across the middle of the field and hold onto the ball while taking a shot? Ok, then.
+ INFINITY Tito!
- Eli fan right here fellas!!!
GO BIG BLUE!!! I am an unapologetic Eli supporter. Haters aren't welcome in my corner of the world!
I think
that is way overrated at this point.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 11, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ham and Nicks are 4th year guys
if they till need a mentor, and can’t be mentoring the younger WRs themselves….they’re in trouble already, regardless of if Smith is here.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I agree
They learned all they could from Steve. My only concern is the positive effect he could have on the Philly’s two young studs. Not a good enough reason to resign him here if JR feels it was too high a price tag as an injured player. But a concern none the less.
Go Giants!
you mean Jimmy SMith right?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 11, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, their game is experienced
but what do they have to offer to first and second year guys? Not much because they are still figuring it all out. If the injury bug hits the receiving corp, these second tier guys will have to step up and I am not sure they have the foundation to do it. Will see. Is it a big issue, not yet, but has the potential to wreck havoc if rears its ugly head.
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Aug 11, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
SS was corrupted by plax
We did NOT need him in the locker room. He clowned the eagles than signed w them!?!
TeamJPP
by andiamo708 on Aug 11, 2011 9:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
this is the best assessment i've seen of the entire situation
bravo, good sir
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
I am sad to see Smith go....
but I am baffled that so many people think the Giants should of matched a 1 year deal for $4 million/ $2 million guranteed contract for a player that is not going to play the entire season, he hasnt even practiced yet.
And everyone seems to fail to mention that the Giants offered Smith an extension before his injury last season, and he even said it was a good offer, but he wanted to test the waters. The Giants also called Smith the first day the lockout was lifted, Smith wanted to test the waters.
I just don't see
Smith making much of an impact for the Eagles. Even if he’s healthy enough to play at somewhere close to his peak ability (which I am doubtful about), I’d much rather have Vick throwing 6-8 yard passes to Smith, who was not much a YAC guy before the injury, than balls to Maclin or Jackson, both of whom are a threat to take any pass the length of the field.
Until proven otherwise, I’m going to assume that Giants had good info about the extent of Smith’s injury and the speed and success of his recovery and didn’t see $2 million worth of value there.
The fans at BGN think Smith is playing Game 1
Either the Eagles are going to risk his health to make a run, or they just have a different medical opinion.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
The fans at BGN think a lot of things
that don’t turn out to be true. Even if he plays game one the chances of him being effective after microfracture surgery and short practice time with a new team are pretty small.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 11, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Remember KP was not full speed until the end of camp last year, maybe 10-11 months from the injury.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
KP wasn't at full speed
until after last season, according to reports out of camp saying he looks like a whole new guy this year.
They would be
in a word, delusional…I am sure “they” have been charting his progress since his surgery!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
The majority of people over at BGN don't believe that SS will be back by Week 1
We’re still getting used to the idea that we have him at all. Most of us think that the true value of the signing will be shown in the final 1/3 of the season where, as a precise route-runner with great hands, he can move the chains while Jackson and Maclin blow up the big plays.
"(The) Only People Who Want 18 Games Are Those That Have Never Played ONE"
-Winston Justice
http://www.fearthefuture.net
I thought
that was why Avant was on the team? What’s he going to be doing when Smith is taking his routes?
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 11, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Avant's our #3.
The Eagles ran a lot of 4 WR sets last season.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
After last night, I'm sorry to say but
Osi’s just gained some leverage. If Reese lets Osi sit, walk, bounce, or whatever then he will face a backlash. We can’t let another “star” just up and leave on principle. Especially when the team, as a whole, is being hurt by these moves.
I have to go ball up and cry in the corner of my shower…at least I’m not bleeding this time.
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
Osi hasnt gained anything
he has to play or sit out the season. those are his only two choices.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
but the Giants' options are dwindling
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
no they are not...
Osi is hurting only hisself. The Giants are one of the few teams that try not to put all their eggs in one basket.. The only person that, if injured, will cause the team to tank is Eli.
Giants prepare for injuries every year. Like last year when half the OL went down somehow Eli got sacked less.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
He has no leverage
in this situation, two years left on a deal will do that. When he gets “clearance” from hotlanta,
he will be back on the field. It’s possible the Giants will sweeten the incentives, but that’s it.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Jernigan = Steve Smith insurance
just incase something like this happened. succckkkkssssss so bad, but hey.. we’ll live i guess. SOMEONE has tostep it up big time now to take that 3rd spot.. and they better effin sign manningham at the end of this year
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions
That's what I thought at the time
And now all the sportswriters that criticized the pick look foolish.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
We have been praising this draft class (Bradshaw, Smith, Boss)
…….turns out they were listening and they cashed in
I went off the grid because of work for 2 days, what did I miss?
In all seriousness, this stings. You’re girlfriend just broke up with you and is dating your arch nemesis. It’s going to take a while to get over the break up, but I plan on it.
Fact remains, the Giants offered him a long-term extension last season with alot of guaranteed money before he got injured and he turned it down. SS12 saw the money in Philly and security and threw loyalty out the window.
If he plays in 9 games this year I will be shocked. If he plays at 75% I will be shocked. Apparently, so will the Giants front office.
I don’t wish harm on him, but I feel betrayed.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
+1
There is no way I would have been happy matching a 1 yr 4 million dollar deal, especially when he isnt supposed to more than half the year.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Except it's your girlfriend after she gained 25 lbs
Could she lose the weight? Maybe
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
hahaha
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Loyalty
with today’s athletes equates to $$$$….
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
And they have no choice
It’s the capitalist way
Bingo
What a country eh, LOL!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Steve Smith will not be good this year
too many people on this website hold on to the past for too long. Steve had a serious injury, and will not be the same until at least 2012, if he is ever the same again. We drafted Jerrel Jerngian to play the slot, mario manningham is just clearly better than SS12 if you ask me, and Hakeem Nicks will be a top 10 receiver. This is a non story if you ask me. Eli will still have 4000+ yards and 30 TDs.
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:06 AM EDT reply actions
GO ELI
just cut back on the INTs
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I Jus hav this to say
I am utterly PISSED off still about this situation and JR’ “Plan”! WE drafted and developed SS into a marquee guy and yess he may not be available early on but there’s NO CHANCE IN HELL the FO shouldve let him land with a division rival that kept us out the Playoffs. Whenever he does play goodluck stopping them on 3rd down with Him, Vick, Desean and McCoy all out there with Vicks scrambling ability. Barden hasn’t even practiced yet to be throwing him in the mix Jernigans a Rook and these other guys I’m sure don’t know how to play the slot like steve did. Eli had better step it up if Tom Brady and make 2rookie TE’s look like seasoned All-Pro caliber players, Then ELI better ean his $ and make these “YOUNG GUYS” look great
by AHoustonGiant on Aug 11, 2011 9:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can't be mad at Smith for taking the dough
2 mil guranteed with his current health and outlook by the team docs, it’s a nobrainer, take the loot and run. I have Direct TV with the NFL Ticket just to watch the Gmen every Sunday, but if DTV called me and told me that they would pay me 2mil guranteed to watch the Birds instead of the Gmen for a year….then I’d have to see what Eli and crew did on Sportscenter. There’s loyalty and there’s bu$ine$$. Loyalty doesn’t pay the bills.
Quinn must go !!
I'd take the $2mil and then go watch the Giants sowewhere else
I’m not watching the friggin Eagles
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Hey
I have the NFL Sunday ticket too, you do know that they are offering new subscribers to DTV
the Sunday Ticket at no charge right? I hope you do what I did, I called and told them, what’s up?
I got 50% off, hope you do the same…
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And you know this......man!
I called and told them that I was pissed. I have friends that got DTV and the package for free and they could give a rat’s ass about football. I let them know that the only reason I have DTV is for the package. I told them that I would cancel and turn in all of the equipment and have it put back on in my wife’s name and they promptly told me that was a no go and transfered me to someone to “assist” me since I am a “loyal” customer. I’m good with 50% off, but I have the funny feeling that I’ll be making this same call next year.
Quinn must go !!
Only reason I have it too
I used to get MLB Extra Innings, now just get MLB.TV, although it can be a cluster%^&*!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you get the "on the go" pack with it
It lets you get all the games on your smartphone, tablet or laptop. You can literally take the Gmen with you everywhere you go.
Quinn must go !!
Nah
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
We make this call EVERY year!
DTV will negotiate if you threaten to quit your service. If they don’t then go ahead and quit, wait a day and then sign up again under your spouse’s name.
GO BIG BLUE!!! I am an unapologetic Eli supporter. Haters aren't welcome in my corner of the world!
I'm pretty sure that DTV can tell who's a loyal customer.
I’m sure that they can see that I’ve had the ticket every year that I’ve had their service. I don’t know why they don’t just do what’s right. No, they want to offer 3 months of skinamax or hbo or something else that I have no interest in.
Quinn must go !!
Yep
They are not THAT dumb!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
It's estimated that less than 25% of people are willing to negotiate that aggressively
They do it cause it makes millions every year
If I had a vote
it would be to get the games on a pay per view basis like a movie. I could pay $4.99 for the game of my choice (a Giants game of course) and move on. When the Gmen play on Sunday or Monday nights, I wouldn’t have to fork over any dough. The Sunday Ticket is what it is but personally, I don’t need to have access to the Cleveland Browns every Sunday.
Quinn must go !!
Will miss Steve....
because he was a very good possession receiver. If you need a 3rd down he will get you a 3rd down but I think the Giants wasn’t sure he will be the same after the injury and I can understand that. The Eagles went out on the ledge and took a gamble. It may work for them or it may not but I really don’t think he will be the same Steve Smith coming off this injury.
I will miss him also
But I think there is a good chance he never gets on the field this year, I wish him the best but I hope he needs this year to heal on Philly’s dime.
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Smith didn't give a Giants a chance to match the contract
Apparently, he took the offer from the Eagles and ran. He didn’t come back to the Giants with the offer to see whether they could match it. Obviously, Smith was already gone from the Giants in his mind.
"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin
It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!
Yup
A person familiar with the negotiations said the Giants were not given the chance to match the offer.
Ain’t that some ish!
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 11, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Thing is
As Smith indicated the Giants had weeks to put in a competitive offer and chose not to. Smith chose not to wait any longer, which he had the right to do.
by Ed Valentine on Aug 11, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
But not even a … “Hey, by the way, while you guys were sitting on your hands and didn’t want to make me a very good offer, I just got this offer from you’re divisional rival”?
If this is truly the case, and I know it’s all speculation right now, but if it is then I have no love loss for SS12.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 11, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell Em Ed
They had 2weeks+ to get the ball rollin on his negotiations and chose to show NO significant interest. Its all JR’ fault he has mananged this Cap situation EXTREMELY POORLY. Kinda makes me wonder….WHO THE HELL on this team is making that much $ that we were only able to sign 1 free agent to a long term deal, one of our own cheap long term and a bunch of 1yr deals otherwise? Who on this team is worth that much that we couldn’t even keep our own?
by AHoustonGiant on Aug 11, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's why it is called
FREE agent.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if you read Ed's response carefully it speaks loudly
They only wanted Smith back at their price, because they see him as a totally unknown quantity right now. At the $ they are talking about it sounds as much about roster space as anything else.
I know
I am agreeing. Some on here are not totaling grasping the word FREE!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
see, now that pisses me off
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
told u he was corrupted by plax
and his immature attitude.
he was upset that JR was treating him as an employee, and not the beloved steve smith….so he made a snap decision….that’s what twitter thugs do.
that’s why i’ll always have love for Cofield….dude is on some grown man ish.
TeamJPP
While I haven't been Cofield's biggest fan
I do commend him for taking a very mature approach to contract negotiations. He’s always been level-headed about it.
"It's time for other guys to have opportunities." -- Tom Coughlin
It's about damn time. Why weren't they given opportunities before? Huh?!?!
Andi
Why do you say he was corrupted by Plax? The other guy hasn’t been around for two years?
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
b/c that's his boy
he was a rookie looking up to Plax and his Immature “me first” mentality. Heck he was lobbying for the Giants to sign him recently too.
he took the Giants Business Offer as personal disrespect….and never gave the Giants a chance to counter.
did he HAVE to? no…..but 9/10 smart business men do.
Look at plax….waltzing outta prison….rocking a Phillies hat….if you think that wasn’t a shot at NY, your gravely mistaken. Plax took it personal….
Steve took it personal.
it’s not personal Sonny….just business. – © Michael Corleone
and because of that….we don’t need him around MM, NIcks, etc.
TeamJPP
Look at it this way
If you were injured and honestly unsure about your ability to perform going forward… would you wait around for more doctors to poke and prod you or would you sign the papers and put a big downpayment on retirement? I know what I’d do. Its not like he can fall back on his career in investment banking…
by Oppenheimer919 on Aug 11, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking on the bright side
No Smith, no Boss. Defenses won’t know who to cover on 3rd down and the end zone.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
haha youre reaching
but it works for me. good riddence steve
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
nice
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
I hope that helps you sleep at night
you’re flat out trippin
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
I wish SS could have prolonged his Giants career
I also wish he hadn’t suffered a serious knee injury. Neither of those wishes came true so it’s time to move on.
I always thought he was a good complementary player, but I never viewed him as indispensible as so many people seem to do. Whoever fills that role this year may be less precise or less reliable, but that player will also have more long play ability. Time will tell whether the Giants made a mistake or not, but my hunch is that it was at worst a neutral move to let him go.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Aug 11, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions
NYPOST
Has been and will always be full of garbage,sign Randy Moss??Shows how little they know about football.
Wet Willie also to Newsday
Went with a picture of Ivan Nova and an article about the Yankees playoff rotation as the main sports feature over the loss of Smith.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
On a brighter note, and I may be the last one to see this
but I just saw on NFL Network that Rex Gross Man said that the Skins have a lot of talent and at the end of the year, he thinks that they will win the Beast. Here is a guy that has truely missed his calling. He makes a better comedian than quarterback.
Quinn must go !!
Yeah
You ARE the last guy. Someone has to be, right?
That was a topic if you go back a few posts.
Go Giants!
Dang man bro!
Is it worth to buy Gmen Jerseys anymore…Buy one today, gone tomorrow. I will stick to buying Gmen jerseys from the 70’s and 80’s only. Capice!
you got a smith jersey yesterday!?!?
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Or do what
a Marlins fan did, he literally put an X thru the name Uggla, and then wrote some other
name above it, LMAO!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Get
A Tuck Jersey. He’s the man. And a first class guy. Front office won’t let him walk away too easily.
Go Giants!
my tuck jersey
has served me well since 2008
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
+ 91
mine too
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
my shockey jersey, on the other hand...
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
I'm afraid to get a Tuck jersey
Every time I buy a new one something happens to the player…Shockey, Barber, Strahan, Plax, SS12…
GO BIG BLUE!!! I am an unapologetic Eli supporter. Haters aren't welcome in my corner of the world!
go with retired players
theyre giants fo life.. everyone loves a Toomer, Strahan, Bavaro, LT jersey
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
ahmad bradshaw would not be a bad buy this offseason
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
very true
possible giant for life right there. 44 would be a good one to get.
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Toomer jersey
will once again be my main gameday shirt
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ive stuck with 17 the past few years
def changing it up this year. THANK GOD i asked my girl to buy me a strahan jersey for christmas
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
toomer will def be my next purchase tho
cant beat those sideline toe dragging catches he ws famous for
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
also have
Jacobs, Eli and Nicks (I had it on Dec 19th so it might be cursed). Each one gets a turn
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
+90
Tuck is someone the Giants wont lowball.. because he earns his contracts and is a classic Giant.
Tucks next contract will make him the highest or at least top 3 paid DE in the league.. and he will be with the Giants.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
isn't 90 JPP?
both are good jerseys to have… Go DEs!!!!
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm probably too old to be wearing jerseys but was thinking the same thing last night.
There was nothing like rocking the LT jersey back in the day. Old school is the way to go these days.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Aug 11, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm afraid that this is what the NFL has become
play for the team that drafted you and then “show me the money”
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
eh its been like that since Reggie White.
the giants didnt draft well in just one draft. we been doing it a while. hence why I am not worried that we lost 3 guys from one draft.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
and next year,
expect the same thing… when we finish 11-5 in the regular season make the playoffs and 50/50 superbowl victory…
100 bucks we loose TT and Goff… and everyone will be claiming the giants FO sucks and JR should be fired and we should have done everything humanly possible to keep them…
While other teams grossly overpay for people we have already replaced.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
Yeah I really feel good about this team
We dont have to make flashy free agent signings because we draft so well…
For proof look at this offseason. I say with the talent we have, we make a deep run into the playoffs… and everyone that is on the ledge right now… will all be back on the bandwagon…
I am with Pat Hanlon – There is plenty of leg space on the wagon right now, I am going to enjoy it for a while.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
By the way, guys
It’s all over Twitter this morning that Jerrel Jernigan has taken the number 12. So, we’ve gone from SS12 to JJ12.
I like it.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Aug 11, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That is FREAKING AWESOME!!!
I am going to buy one next week… once I get paid!!!!
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
nice..
the real steve smith resides in carolina
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
that'll work
u should find something else to do! You like the GM,you have your head up your ass!!!!!!!!! we have not singed a linebacker in years think about it, he has on Herry Carson JERSEY, HE is not a pimple on his ass, like I said find something elese to do like go play in the road out side of the stadium, may be u could talk about that. your inputs suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go back were was the last linebacker we had, get rid of the GM and find someone knows talent.. DON`T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IT IS GETTING SICKING..
Nice!
And he’ll get to sell it back to him if he ever returns. Although after the hate he got at the hands of the ignoramus’s on Facebook, I doubt that ever happens.
Still can’t bring myself to wish SS good luck. The damn Eagles Steve? The EAGLES?! I guess money talks and **** walks.
Go Giants!
i have to say i joined in on the fun on SS facebook page
i dont know if im ashamed yet but i got by far the most likes out of any wall post i saw at 12 likes and even a comment from some stranger saying hahahahahahahahah. what did i say? it was a simple and not vulgar at all. i didnt wish injury to him or failure in his career. i said,
“I hope Michael Vick kills your dog.”
too much?
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey that was too far...
Keep the puppies out of it… lol
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
glorious.. preftect.
im going to find it so i can like it too..
i told him manningham is better anyway… hit him where it, hopefully, hurts his pride
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Wishing
Bodily harm is where I draw the line.
But his dog? Ha! Let Vick stew him up baby!
Go Giants!
yeah
no harm wished by me either… I posted on his page “good luck steve but I can’t be a fan of an eagle player” then I disliked his page.. That will show him. BURN!!
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I cut him too
You agree that his FB stream caused the backlash?
those comments were crazy bad
on FB, he was such a fan friendly guy then this happened.
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think that he played at FB as if we were one big Giant family
Which he figured pre-injury was pretty sure to be true
Now the whackadoodles out there take it like their brother just sold them down the river
I refused to read it, just hearing guys like you and Ed and Jason B comment told me enough. It’s a sad sad comment that people feel free to speak to each other that way in a public space.
I read about 15 of them then stopped
they got way too nasty
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
SS was great on FB
I guess that’s why so many of us are pissed off that he would defect because SS knew first hand how much NYG fans loved him.
Now he already knows how much we hate our rivals.
Some of that stuff on FB is really harsh though.
Just a bit
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
how much is it
to change SMITH to JERNIGAN on a jersey?
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Here is to JJ surpassing SS skill set.
We drafted the kid for a good reason. Along with Health, Dominik, Travis, Ramses, and Henry to fill this void, I truly believe that our new look offense won’t miss a beat.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Aug 11, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously, best news i've heard all day
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
steve[ traitor] smith
How nice of Steve Smith to keep us updated on his recovery the last 6 months,how nice that he spoke to his [former]teamates and the coaches,what a PHONY.This should be a lesson to all my fellow Giant fans,we care about them more than they care about us. Go rot in hell Steve Smith
Eli, Tuck, Strahan
they would never do this. Michael Strahan loves us. You take that back
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
u serious?
lmao. The NFL is a business bruh. Lets say he is injured too badly for a larger contract, and he somewhwere knows that he wont come back 100%. Are you going to take a 2M $ contract just for that team to cut you NEXT year when you prove you arent capable of getting back to 100%? No. Your going to take the money becuase its your life to live.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
you might not want to do that
sounds like he likes to spit out vitriol….
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
People are also failing to mention
that next year we have many great players becoming FA. We need cap room to sign TT, Ham, KP (I assume he is also a FA next year even with landing ’09 on IR), etc.
I think JR knows that he Cannot squander precious caproom when we have these key signings coming up. And I personally think Ham is a better player than SS
+1
This is what happens when you draft well…
People will be acting like this next year when we loose Goff and possibly TT.
Where are all the nicknames Henry "Rhynoski" Hynoski, JPP "The Beast", Linval "The Anvil" Joseph, Hakeem "The Dream" Nicks, "Super" Mario Manningham, Ramses "The Pharoah" Barden, "Unstoppable" Eli Manning ... you know, nicknames...
i think TT will stay IMO
and Cwebb will go once his is up… ross probly as well. Going to be TT and Prince as the CB tandem in a year or 2
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
On Post
<This is the panicked, typical, stir up the masses non-sensical New York Post reaction./blockquote>
Agreed. It’s always either gloomy or panicked at the Post—a paper for the sad and pathological.
Giants took one gamble signing Kiwi off of a serious injury. Didn’t want to take another gamble on SS12. I hate that he ends up in Philly, but he won’t be playing the first half of the season either way and if/when he comes back he probably won’t be the same player. I do agree that Reese better hope his draftees can step up to the next level now though or fans will be calling for his head.
Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York!
For the empty net, Mark Messier... do you believe it?! Do you believe it?! He said we will win game 6 - he has just picked up the hat trick!
and i just made a comment on MG's blog
since when does MG’s knowledge of football trump JR’s???
dude puts in a lot of work and bang out information….but he doesn’t know football more than any one of us here.
He’s proved this (at least to me) time and time again.
he’s a beat writer….let him manage this offseason and the Giants would be 20M over the cap.
TeamJPP
yeah i'm surprised at MG
i usually like most of his stuff…this post was bad.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
There is a lot of pressure to generate clicks, comments etc
Its been the driving force that has reduced media to the drivel we are often subjected too. I’m not excusing, bad is bad.
So, just checked the schedule out and I say we are going 10-6
Skins – W
Rams – W
Eagles – L
Cards – W
’Hawks – W
Bills – W
Fins – W
NE – L
SF – W
Eagles – L
Saints – L
Pack – L
Boys – W
Skins – W
Jets – L
Boys – W
That’s 10-6! Now, we may lose to the Cowgirls once and we may even beat the Eagles once. In other words, there are a couple of these games that may go either way, but I truly believe this team will beat the teams I said they would. 10-6 should get us in reach of the playoffs! Come everyone, let’s get some optimism here. Hope cannot be lost even before the first preseason game!
in the nfc east this year
its gonna come down to those 6 games. eagles vs giants, eagles vs giants, cowboys vs giants, cowboys vs giants, eagles vs cowboys, and eagles vs cowboys.
unless of course rex grossman has anything to say about it. Wait?…..
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
We are not if....
Eli doesn’t get tackled by a Ghost/tie his shoe laces correctly…AND Dodge kicks it out of bounds!
and why won't we?
they’re better than they were the past two seasons
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
IMO
The Eagles didn’t win those games. It was more of a case of us losing those games. Both games were there for the taking. It’s not like we are outclassed by these guys. Eliminate the dumb mistakes and it’s a different ball game.
Quinn must go !!
Oh god not this argument again.
Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.-Oscar Wilde
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
He who rides a tiger cannot dismount-JHH
Same could be said for both sides..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I think you guys'll beat us once this year
The odds are there… right?
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 11, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly hehe
Cheer up, Giants fans… things could be worse.
Like being a Redskins fan!
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 11, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Grossman says otherwise
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's in a place to say anything...
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Aug 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, fatty
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
niceeee
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
we will beat the Jets
and take one on the eggs… and probly lose a game we shouldve won.. like the boys once or something
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
But still...
that would come out to be about 10-6 or even 11-5. In other words everyone, we are going to kick some butt this year, Giants style. Meaning we are going to go out there, with a blue collar-everyone is screwing me over-mentality, and hopefully give the NFL a run for its money!
Could it be that the new stadium has the Giants strapped for cash?
I mean aren’t they still paying for it? The cap and current CBA only made retaining key players that much more difficult? Pure speculation yes but that is the only other excuse that I can think of with respect to these significant losses of talent.
28 points in 7:28. Yeah, thats the punter's fault.
by LoNJDTechnology on Aug 11, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Giants are not cash strapped
the article in ESPN earlier in the year show the Mara’s have the cash
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
hmmm
We did offer him a 5 year deal b4 he got hurt pontential to be 35 mil ….he wanted more $$$
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Aug 11, 2011 10:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What would...
The Giants have to do to get under the cap if he actually signed that contract when he had the chance?
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Aug 11, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well
This year I believe at least half the fans out there will place all blame JR if things do not go well.
I think we need to consider is that maybe JR is getting some direction from above because this just doesn’t seem like the guy we’ve seen in the past.
At the same time – he’s shown difficulty in retaining players. Shockey, SS12, Boss, Cofield – and I understand and support JR in his decisions. …but there are only so many times you can say you have someone in the wings that you believe will ‘step up’. I also think it’s starting to smell like a cloud of pride when you believe you draft so well that you can replace anyone.
I think the worst move would be to sign Osi to big money to make the fans happy. Sign him for what he is worth.
I think the biggest risk/reward move is to sign Moss. First – I’m advocating the signing but a good point has been made that our tallest WR (that actually has played) is 6’2 (Nicks) and we do not a have a WR that win a ball that is thrown high – which Eli does on a regular basis.
Pro’s on Moss:
- He’ll create that double team to get Nicks and Ham open
- He’ll push that SS out of the box and give AB and BJ room to run
Cons
-He might already be washed up
-Is there any chance he won’t be the absolute curse he was in Minn and Tenn? Most likely not.
If they can get him for under 3 mil and a one year deal then why not bring him into camp and see how he reacts with Eli. Nothing to lose. Come on – you want to see how D. Thomas and Calhoun progress over getting Moss? Really?
Finally on SS12 – he turned down the money last year and I just don’t believe he wanted to be back in NY. I believe he thought that the Giants were using the medical evaluation to give him a low ball offer and if this guy plays early and does well then I think the Giants staff will have egg on their face.
I think a bigger story is that many FA’s don’t want to come to NY because of Coughlin. I think that is junk and I’m glad those players stay away and gravitate to Vick because I don’t want the Giants to become a team that attracts that kind of person. ..but I do think that is an underlying story for this offseason with the Giants.
Good luck SS12 but I honestly hope we knock you silly in the first game.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
No Moss
Even the teams that take chances on the “me first” talents are passing on him. The risk reward on him weighs too heavily to the negative now.
JR is the same guy he always was. And the idea that Tisch/Mara would influence him (and why?) makes no sense to me.
I think most players look at NY as a good fit when there is opportunity and money for them. They are a winner and a stable organization. Most smart agents don’t avoid NY when it is a good fit for their player. It is far from a Washington or an Oakland situation.
I do think that Philly is the flavor of the month right now though. Guys are intrigued by all the signings and might want to be a part of something special. But that will only go as far as the season win loss record takes you. We’ll see what happens down the “Pike”.
Go Giants!
I hope someone steps up.
Losing our guys is getting a little discouraging, but we did ok without SS12 after he got hurt last year. Eli not having Smith and Boss on 3rd down may bother him until he finds a new guy to get some 3rd down chemistry with.
Anbody but the F’N Eagles! C’mon Steve!
From Facebook
I will always cherish my time in NY and the super bowl victory.. This was obviously not an easy decision for me or something i ever expected but unfortunately the business aspect proved that the eagles wanted me to be part of their organization MUCH more than the Giants did.. A special thanks to my WR buddies, coach Gilbride, all of u amazing fans on here, and the entire giants organization for drafting me.. Time for a new beginning…
It’s interesting how he didn’t mention Tom. Players don’t want to play for TC.
Yeah
Except the winners and the team players. Guys like Tuck and Eli love him. Even the guys that chafe under him eventually grow to respect him when he’s in their rear view window. This isn’t about TC.
Go Giants!
Strahan hated him
he tolerated him his final season for the betterment of the team. Read Strahan’s book. I don’t care what Strahan says now.
Ha
So now that Strahan says he realizes that Coughlin is a good coach and a winner who was trying to make him the best player he could be, you don’t care what he says now?
Go Giants!
by ronjohnson on Aug 11, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i hated my football coach when i played too
but now i realize he was just trying to get the best out of me. Strahan has realized the same
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said in my earlier
post. I believe Tom is a heavy factor in some players not coming back. It’s one thing when Plax has a problem …but now SS.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Coach Coughlin's comments about SS yesterday on the news...
didn’t sound like he wanted SS back and it probably ticked him off. Smith said he was on schedule to return but Coughlin didn’t believe that.
by TrueBlue777 on Aug 11, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you really think SS12 is fit ready to go?
Cause I was a FB follower, he always talked about how well the rehab was going, even before he could have possibly known anything, back when he still wasnt walking on it, he said it was going way better than expected.
Steve seems like a nice guy, but I don’t think we can take his self assessment on the knee seriously
interesting that you took that from that
yet he mentions Gilbride
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 11, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve's latest FBupdate
Instead of cursing at me and wishing my family and my knee harm, i wish you could understand that i truly wanted to stay here but that the giants DIDN’T want me here unfortunately.. thank you to my true fans for standing by me and offering your support during this time… i truly appreciate it and will miss you all, even the haters bc i know ure great people deep down and are saying what u are just because youre such passionate fans
why the hell does he have to be so good at public relations
this would be so much easier if he just posted something like GIANTS SUCK CANT WAIT TO WHOOP THAT ASS IN PHILLY
by The Blood of Eli on Aug 11, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Cause he pays someone to tell him what to do
And he’s smart enough to listen to them
thats going to make a lot of people feel like a-holes
good thing i didnt say anything too harsh – just that manningham is better. if i told him i hoped hed get hurt or something, that post would make me feel like a real dick.
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing that bothers me
Is not that he’s gone. It’s that he’s gone to the Eagles. He might be a great influence on the young WR talent. And he might even get back to form.
But I think JR probably made the right call for the NY Giants. He was damaged goods this year and JR obviously thinks we have suitable talent to replace him or he would have gone after him harder. JR knew the deal. Smith told them the Eagles were pursuing him. He made the decision with his eyes wide open. We’ll see what happens.
I think the dog thing was funny, and I’ll bet Steve laughed when he read it.
Go Giants!
i remember the year we won the sb
fans were blasting reese for a lame offseason. let’s play the game!
by jhMLB on Aug 11, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Just Shut Up
play good defense, run the ball, shorten the game. old school football. since when do we need 3 fcking receivers? and are we going to gtee 2mm to a guy who had microfracture surgery?
our youthful line was the best group we had on the field all last year, they are all back + this Baas cat. hold on to the ball ahmad, run downhill brando, catch a few bombs hak.
and let the perry fewell machine do it’s job.
let’s face it. the eagles spent 2mm to get access to the giants playbook. with some upside option that he can actually cut and not hurt something again.
This
play good defense, run the ball, shorten the game. old school football.
I was thinking the same thing. Time to get back to some Tunaball.
Quinn must go !!
Now we're talkin'!!!
“Smashmouth….run up into the stands and slap their momma!”
by Last year in Sec 127 on Aug 11, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Giants running game wasn't that great...
so don’t sound like it’s that great. We can’t even get a 1yd when we really needed it. Hopefully it will turn around this year.
younger, refurbished o line
a surgically repaired ahmad. a healthy, fresh, ready to maul people BJ. watch the run game blow up this year
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a dream last night...
That both my girlfriend and my cat left me for an Eagles fan. He had more money and could get better presents and better tasting cat food. They looked and said “sorry, you’re just not good enough” I woke up this morning still feeling defeated.
I don't recall
is it true SS12 turned down 35M last year?
Mr. Valentine please!
Can you explain how the Eagles have been able to sign all those free agents and why the Giants can’t even resign their own key free agents? Is there something some loophole that Jerry Reese isn’t aware of?
eagles arent paying anyone an exorborant amoint of money
think about it.. who do they pay? Asante? who else? no one really.. all guys with low paying contract = tons of cap space.
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
also Deasean is making pennies now
he’s a FA next year. Theres a reason why he held out of camp for 2 weeks
'Awh man thank, god he’s (David Carr) back… C’mon Tom get rid of Eli !!'
'We have a a shout at the superblow'
Thanks to all the various "diehard" Giant fans on the web for these laughs, now please do something different and watch a game for once.
by The Always Well Dressed... on Aug 11, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
yea but guys that were already on the team
dont make sh&&. thats why they have been able to snag these expensive FAs
by Plaxico Burress on Aug 11, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
the Eagles don't resign their own players
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Aug 11, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We only resigned 1 this offseason.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
if we are going to pick up a WR...
still think Malcom Floyd wouldnt be a bad idea if we could get a good deal made.
i dont think he’s signed yet, for some reason…so who knows.
In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.
"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon
by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 11, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
okay...
think it happened just yesterday…and i didnt hear about it.
In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.
"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon
by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 11, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Steve Smith's FB Page
Have you guys checked out Smith’s FB page? Giants fans are PISSED and are letting him have it. http://www.facebook.com/SteveSmith?sk=wall
Poor guy…
So we've come to this, eh???
LONG LIVE THE MAYOR OF EAST RUTHERFORD
Your Facebook status updates will be missed.
eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson
Have faith...
I have a huge feeling that we are going to surprise a lot of people this year.
I like this team, regardless of what people say and how bad this offseason went. The players we lost too free agency or cap casaulities all have replacements. Maybe not in the same status as Smith, Boss, and etc. However, for each loss Jerry already has a younger player to offset the loss. We all watched Beckum last year and when thrown the ball he did his job in part time duties and the bear will surprise people. We drafted a wide receiver in JJ and i believe the combination of Cruz/JJ/Hixon will give the Eli options after Nicks and Ham. The offense line is not going to be a problem. Cutting a 34 year old O’hara and RS and replacing them Bass and William Beatty is still a very good line since we still have Diehl, Snee, and Mckenize. I really like Bass, when he signed with the Giants 49ers fans were enraged they let him go. Besides, we all thought O’Hara was a scrub when he came from the browns look at how that worked out. Expect Jacobs to return to form and Bradshaw not to fumble the ball often.
When it comes to the defense, this is what really pisses me off is how people can say we are weak. First off, our secondary actually has depth and two potential pro bowl safeties. Yes, Kenny phillips will have a monster year and so will Aaron Ross. Both are removed from Surgery and both will have an impact on defense. Both Aaron Ross and kenny phillips aint no chop liver.
Second, the line backing core is lacking that All pro name yet Boley and Goff will do their thing and improve with added pressure and Kiwi will make a huge difference against the run. And yes, i do think one of our young Lbs can make a difference for us this year.
Our Dline when everyone is healthy will be the best. I am sorry but JPP is on another level and i think with the combination of JPP, Tuck, and Osi those three will produce over 30 sacks this year. They have the ability and the talent now is the time to show up.
And lets be real we lead the league in turnovers and went 10-6. Name the last team that lead the league in turnovers and still was 4 games over .500. Not many teams in the history of football has accomplished that. And finally, this is the stage Eli should be on. We want our franchise qb to step up and put this team on his back. And he will have a monster year. Yes he will. Besides name the last team that won the superbowl or professional sports when they had a huge offseason only the yankees in 09 but thats the yankees after them not one team has collected on their investment.
Less is more
on BBV, just saying.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Aug 11, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
although i pretty much hated SS last night...
i guess I’m gonna look at it this way.
He’s not gonna be 100% for most, if not all this season.
If i don’t have to see him in an Eagles uniform for either game against the Eggs I’ll be fine with this…
Maybe in the long run, Steve Smith will be a spy for us, maybe next year after he’s learned their system…he’ll come back home.
Anyways…the fact he signed with another team isnt really taht upsetting on its own…its just that it was with the Eagles….i guess that much was obvious though.
In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.
"we need to get cam newton before the panther’s get off lock down cause eli cant (QB) by hisselfall this saeson also we need plax back to cause smith is the best (WR) we got nd plax cant help smith nd the team out….. do that nd we have a a shout at the superblow" -Anon
by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 11, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
Pipe dream
He’s a hated Eagle now. Get used to it. He got his money down the Turnpike. I don’t blame him.
But I do hope he goes 8-8 and we kick butt twice this year. Stranger things have happened in the NFL. If the Eagles get off to a slow start defensively with a new system and or get a key injury or two there will be huge panic and Andy Reid hating going on in Philly. Philly turns on you quicker than a Vick dog if you don’t produce.
Go Giants!
well he is gone but
at least everybody can adjust to the idea that he is not coming back and instead to prepare somebody until SS12 was supposedly coming back now they can focus and work on preparing his replacement (s). because if we were struggling we would be waiting for Steve to come back, now we do not have to worry about that, we will win and loose with what we have.
So basically SS left
over 1 million of un-guaranteed money? He didn’t want to be in blue. He turned down the offer last year and I think somehow he’s mad about that.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Maybe...
He felt insulted by the lowball offer.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Aug 11, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't the Eagles already have a slot WR
I’ve been hearing Troy Aikman and Co. wacking off to the route running and hands of Jason Avant for several years now. Doesn’t Avant already fill the SS role? Or is he just not that good?
Avant will shift outside
if maclins not ready.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Aug 11, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
not time to jump ship.
Giants still have tons of talent and depth l.ike no ones business. What do we have like 9 de and dt. Not to mention all the other postions. Our defense is better then last year no question. I don’t see y ppl are worring
by hit_hard on Aug 11, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
STEELERS
has anyone ever noticed that the steelers lose a big free agent almost yearly and always has someone step up and play like a all star i think jerry likes that formula
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