New York Giants Notes: Shawn Andrews, Barry Cofield, Tiki Barber, NFL Lockout Update
by Ed Valentine on Jul 7, 2011 8:07 AM EDT
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PrintGood morning, New York Giants fans! Let's get your day started with some Giants-related news and notes, including a fun one about Shawn Andrews.
Eating and Tweeting His Way Through the NFL Lockout - WSJ.com
This is a really fun look by the WSJ's Aditi Kinkhabwala at how offensive lineman Shawn Andrews has spent his time during the lockout. When camp finally does start we will have to see if she is right that Andrews, his obsession with tweeting about foot aside, is in great shape.
Chat wrap: Is Cofield a goner? - NFC East Blog - ESPN
Barry Cofield of the New York Giants checked in and asked: "Dan, am I being unreasonable to be asking for the type of contract that Chris Canty and Rocky Bernard are getting? I know we all play the same position, but I think Reese feels that my stats are better because I only have a guard to worry about, whereas Chris or Rocky takes on a guard & center most of the time."
Did Cofield really check in on an ESPN NFC East chat? C'mon Barry, you must have better things to do. As for the contract, Cofield is certainly worth as much or more than Bernard. Question is, what NFL team will end up giving it to him.
NFL.com news: UFL emerges as option for Barber should lockout linger
"Tiki always kept himself in great shape," Fassel says. "There will definitely be an adjustment period for him to get in the flow of things and getting his body used to being hit again.
"If they don't have as much time, starting players are going to get most of the reps. There is not going to be a lot of time for guys who need to prove themselves."
Admit it, gang. If Tiki Barber ends up playing in the UFL for former Giants coach Jim Fassel you would get some satisfaction out of that.
Matt Dodge ready for second season with Giants
"I'm so much a person that just takes each day as it comes," said Dodge, who is preparing for his second season in the NFL and who made an appearance at last week's David Garrard Golf Classic in Greenville. "It's tough because I thought we were positioned really to make some noise."
While players like Garrard (the veteran starting quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars), All-Pro Tennessee Titans running back Chris Johnson and Green Bay Packers defensive lineman C.J. Wilson are enlarging ECU's footprint in the NFL by starring in more traditional roles, Dodge might have had the most chaotic learning experience of any former Pirate in the league.
"I think I really learned this year it's whichever team stays the healthiest, and the team that gets the least amount of bad breaks," Dodge said. "So many perfect things have to come in line to win in the NFL because there is not much that separates each team. Everyone is paid to play."
Clayton believes his experience will aid return to Giants
"I think that the quick turnaround, it will help me," Clayton told the St. Petersburg Times. "I made a decision to go play in the UFL and I got picked up. I was prepared to go play in New York and I was ready to go. They had young guys on their roster who had been there for two years who they still didn’t trust.
"To be in that predicament in New York, with the short amount of free agency that we’re going to have, I think that’s really going to benefit me when we get back to playing. Everybody’s job is still on the line, but I think after eight years in the league, coaches have a lot of respect for guys, especially when you’ve carried yourself the right way.’’
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Cofield did not personally check in.
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clearly not
but unless im missing some very subtle sarcasm, dan graziano thinks he did.
i dont think he’s ever seen an espn chat before.
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Haha, yup, pre-dog-killing.
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Hah
I was just going for the “REALLY!?” I did not even notice Vick being on it… that sucks, I should have chose a different one.
I didn’t recognize Ed’s obvious sarcasm, and you still lose. Yay!
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Play better msot the way and still lose
fans do resemble their team apparently. XD
barry cofield is so right
how do u pay that loser rocky bernard and not cofield… even canty. dont get me wrong canty is a solid player but cofield was a beast last season…. i would drop them both to keep cofield
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 7, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
Well thank god your not the GM
Canty has been the glue,foundation or what ever other noun you like to use.
Its much like Osi getting more single coverage compared to Tuck who gets raped on the left side (unless he moves around of course).
Canty is and has been proven to be the best of the 3 for exactly the reasons stated above.
Bro will get Canty $, just not here.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
+1 No Canty, No stats for Cofield
Don’t get me wrong, I believe that Cofield is a good player but not a dominant DT capable of putting pressure on the QB when he is double team like Haynesworth did with the Titans.
I agree that Cofield deserves a new contract but the more I read his comments and the more I believe that he is asking a bit too much. The Saints aborted the trade in 09 because of Cofield demands.
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same contract as canty? 5.3 mill
Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 7, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
nope it can't....
its mostly circumstantial evidence. However, at this point he’s getting paid less than Bernard or Canty.
Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 7, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
all i think BC wants is his opportunity....
that’s it.
let him have his fair shot to test FA….let teams make some offers.
this idea that he’s asking for Canty $ or top 5 DT $….not only is it 100% FALSE but it’s effecting the way Giants fans see the man…
I’m reading comments like “well, if Barry thinks he’s worth top 5 DT $….well he can go take a long walk off a short pier”…
really!?!?! the guy just wants a chance to secure a long term deal
FIX IT
ultimately....
he wants to be paid comensurate to skills and experience.
which I think is more than fair….and the Giants have certainly NOT done that for him.
so if anyone gets the side eye here…it’s JR not BC.
but i know it’s a business so this is just how it works….but i’ll damn sure never question Barry and how he’s gone about his business the past 2 years….
FIX IT
They have short careers
He has to try to get the best deal he can, it doesn’t make him greedy
JR on the other hand has to decide if BC is the answer or if the team is better off going towards Joseph and Austin. If they feel it’s a 4 man DT rotation, and Austin and Joseph are the starters in 2012 or 2013, it’s wise to not tie yourself to Cofield.
This isn’t a knock on BC, it’s just how it goes.
I agree
He shouldn’t be viewed that way. The man is trying to make as much as he can and JR is trying to save as much as he can….just business like you said, andi
Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 7, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
-100
Coefield is better than you all are giving him credit for, Canty is not the glue, Barry is, Chris is a good player and he has been playing very well but lets be clear, if Canty got that type of money based on his inconsistent performance for the Cowboys then how doesnt Barry get paid for his consistency for the Giants.
Now all of a sudden Canty is the Glue cause he takes double teams?? well what the hell was Barry when he was playing Nose for 4 years eating up blocks for Freddie, cmon now, thats obsurd. I dont think he checked in himself but that is a legitimate question, one that no one has a valid answer to. He is a better player than Chris Canty, but Canty is getting better, still doesnt max out effort the whole game at all though.
The Saints did not abort the trade because of Cofield’s demands per se, you act like any smart person would do a contract on the fly when there is a 10 min time limit……thats ridiculous, Barry did the right thing, why rush it?? because the Giants wanted you to? LOL, the same team that will not pay you now wants you to do them a favor and work out a quick deal so they can have a second round pick, that would be dumb as hell
……….me and all of you would have done the same thing.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Barry blows!! JK, but do disagree.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Your answer gives the impression that I said that Cofield completely sucks
Who said the Saints had 10 minutes to sign a contract with Cofield? If I’m not mistaken the Giants tried to trade even after the draft so in that case the Saints were not on the clock. But anyway, when they asked what kind of contract Cofield was seeking it was obviously not to sign it in the hour. There would have been negociations.
The price was high enough to scare the Saints. If it was reasonnably high, I guess the Saints could have tried to reduce it through neogications.
I did not say Canty is better than Cofield and thanks to double teams on Canty, Barry can pile up stats.
No I meant, it’s a team effort. Unless you are a dominant DT who splits double team like butter, you need a guy next to you to “block” defenders. That was Cofield’s job with Robbins and Canty’s job last year (and he did a nice job IMO).
So my point is, maybe Cofield’s demands are a bit too for a guy who needs a good line to perform. I’m not saying that on a poor DL he would suck, I’m saying that on a poor line he wouldn’t able to perform at the same level he did in 2010.
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The saints contacted the Giants
Barry has never been on the trading block at all. Why would the saints want to work a deal after the draft when they probably tied that money up into a draft pick, not to mention Barry has made 1.5 million in 5 years as a starter. He is the lowest paid DL on our team who plays that many snaps.
In your own words you just proved that he can play either DT spot very well and not miss a beat so why was he never paid??…. i can gaurantee the price isnt what u think it is, the Saints probably didnt agree on those terms then because it was rushed, there are alot to hammer out in a contract extension, i think they couldnt agree on the years personally, not so much the money.
Your entitled to your opinion on him but when u look at the other DT’s checkbooks then look at his production its hard to justify why he wasnt paid before this year.
“Cofield’s demands are a bit too for a guy who needs a good line to perform”…what are his demands?? does he seem like a guy who over or under values himself?? why do you think he wants 100 million or whatever??, i cant see that coming out his mouth at all. Im sure he just wants a fair deal representative of a 5 year starter who has held off every rookie and veteran aquisiton brought in to replace him without even breaking a sweat.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
and second
shaun andrews is absolutely hilarious on twitter… if u have one and u dont follow him u need to get on that
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 7, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
Yea I agree
If it doesn’t bother you that he tweets every 5 minutes, when the Heat lost to the Mavericks in the Finals Andrews was really going at Lebron and it was hilarious.
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I could make a comment
about Tiki being in good shape because between chasing interns and running from wives, how could he not be? But I won’t do that.
Dodge… personally I think (hope?) he’ll be okay but he probably needs to not talk at all. I cant read quotes from him without thinking stuff like this:
“It’s tough because I thought we were positioned really to make some noise.”
We did make noise, it sounded like BOOOOOOOOO if I remember correctly.
“I think I really learned this year it’s whichever team stays the healthiest, and the team that gets the least amount of bad breaks,”
Add in that you can’t just drop the ball on the ground or kick line drives straight at returners and I’d say you’re on to something.
Hopefully this time next year my cynicism will be more easily subdued.
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Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Nuff about Coefield
He is a solid DT and a classy guy but not worth top 5 or 10 DT money. He will get it from someone so Giants will pass.
Next subject.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Next on the list my lord
Osi againts the Giants :P
I think personnally that it would really be an ass move by Reese if he gave a new contract to Osi who is always complaining and refused to offer a new contract to a classy and productive guy such as Cofield.
The ideal plan would be (but I do realize it won’t happen) to
-trade Osi for a second round pick, maybe a first… if there some idiots willing to trade a first for Kolb then the Giants can get the same thing for Osi. In a QB league you need a QBfor your offense but also someone to prevent a QB to complete pass on defense and that’s either a DL or a CB.
-Cut Bernard. I still think he is overpaid. He is playing well but not well enough to justify his contract. Let the youngsters take his snaps.
-Restructure Canty contract. No need for a big paycut but just enough to keep Cofield.
-And finally resign Cofield.
Also find a way to keep Kiwi with a one year deal to see if he is still able to play well.
That would my dream plan.
(sigh)
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"I think personnally that it would really be an ass move by Reese if he gave a new contract to Osi who is always complaining and refused to offer a new contract to a classy and productive guy such as Cofield."
Statement of the day +1000000000…….however i also think he would be a fool not to keep Osi but your reasoning was excellent.
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