New York Giants Notes: First Practice In The Books
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2011 7:33 AM EDT
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PrintThe first full practice of the 2011 New York Giants training camp is in the books. Unfortunately, with camp being at the Timex Performance Center in East Rutherford rather than at UAlbany I am not currently in attendance to give you first-hand reports. Still, though, plenty of information to be gleaned from a variety of sources. Let's get right to it.
Roster Moves
The Giants Saturday announced the signing of free-agent guard Chris White, a seven-year veteran with the Houston Texans. White, 6-foot-2, 303 pounds, played in 33 games with Houston, starting eight. The Giants also added undrafted free agents Brant Clouser, a guard from Villanova, and Christian Hopkins, a tight end who most recently spent two seasons in the UFL.
Beatty Diehl Settle In
Will Beatty said Saturday he is ready to handle the left tackle job.
"Coming in here knowing that I got that starting left tackle (job) and it's mine, it's a good feeling," Beatty said. "The last two years, they were preparing me for this, but just having that spot is a good feeling.
"Eli trusts me. I've protected for him - it's not like this is my first start and I haven't been here. I've played some games at left tackle, right tackle, so I know what they expect from me."
Diehl has handled his move from tackle to guard graciously, despite the fact that it will cost him money since his contract pays him more if he stays at tackle.
"With Rich gone and Shaun gone they needed to move me to solidify and help with the offensive line in the middle," Diehl said. "I've always been a team guy, I've always been a guy up to the challenge. That's one of the things that I've always done is been able to play all of the positions. For those who were out this offseason (to watch the players workouts) they saw me play a little tight end. I just want to win football games and I want to get back to doing what I love and that's playing football and being a part of it and if this is the best way for us to get back to the Super Bowl and win football games I'll do it and I've always been that way."
Diehl said he will help Beatty as much as he can.
"He's been a guy who has worked extremely hard to get his shot and his opportunity," Diehl said. "Obviously, I believe in our O-line coach Pat Flaherty and they have a plan and this is what they want to do and this is the way that they want to go. I'm sitting next to him as well. I'm going to be talking to him trying to get him on the same page and teaching him. That's the one thing about me playing that position the last four years, I can help him out. I can help him see things. I can help him do things."
Amukamara Still Unsigned
The team's No. 1 pick is the only rookie remaining unsigned.
:He better get in here," coach Tom Coughlin said
Practice Notes
Adam Koets did not practice due to lingering effects from the knee surgery he underwent last season, forcing Chris Snee to take some reps at center. ... The Giants annnounced attendance at the Timex Performance Center as 976.
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Yes!!!
We can now officially say, FOOTBALL IS BACK!! Lockout?? What lockout??
by DaWriter on Jul 31, 2011 7:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Football was never gone.
It’s just the NFL that is back.
by LightningCoach on Jul 31, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I find it very concerning that Prince has not signed yet
This guy seems very humble so I’m surprised he’s being stubborn on “some of the language”. & I sure hope this doesn’t have anything to do with money. We no longer have much control over that.
Finding it weird too
He is very humble and it could be a language or years type thing, but I expect to see him soon.
The Bucs seemed to have screwed up the whole slotting and wage formula with the #19 pick, Adrian Clayborn - just ahead of Prince.
And paid him more than the EARLIER pick (Prince) was slotted to make — and fully guaranteed him too.
Now picks 17-24 are all unsigned and I guess there’s confusion, or player agents trying to slot for more, and fully guaranteed deals, around that spot than would have/should have been the case.
Hopefully it ends soon. Giants might have to over pay and over guarantee.
See the PFT story from this morning on remaining unsigned 1st round picks.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 31, 2011 8:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Clayborn #20 I meant of course.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 31, 2011 8:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Clayborn
was the first one to sign, so he pretty much set the standard. in years past, most rooks would have to follow the lead of the 1st pick, when they signed.
Thanks for the info, Head
Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES
it seems the problem...
…is confusion. All the 1st rounders who haven’t signed yet are from the middle picks, except for Clayborn, who signed for more than Prince is supposed to get. That’s probably what’s causing the hold-up
by Raptor22 on Jul 31, 2011 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly what i read yesterday
But the $ isn’t that much more its only $100,000 I believe so it shouldn’t be that big of a hold up. Unless JR and Mara are jus deciding to be assholes about it and saying “LOOK PRINCESS, the bucs messed up the system and we’re not going to continue the trend”! So take it or leave it
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Prince
I will hazard a guess that he will be signed, sealed, delivered and at practice tonight.It’s not money … reports were that it is ‘contract language.’
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
With the new CBA
I don’t know what contract language difficulties there could be? This team is falling behind the
eight ball right now, can’t get there own FA’s signed as well?
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 31, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
By accounts it sounded like a good practice,
with our WR’s looking good.
And NO INJURIES!
Let’s hope that’s a sign of the season to come!
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 31, 2011 8:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Im Going up there to watch today
With camp being so close to home this year I liv in queens I have to make the trip at least 3x to jers to see these guys.
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Which can certainly be a post-surgical issue
After my knee was redone, I had tendonitis everywhere from hip to toe, it’s just from forcing your body through the rehab, which I’m sure an NFL OLman is going harder than yours truly couch quarterback. Off the cliff, we’ll be okay.
No Bradshaw eh
what’s the deal, are the two sides close to an agreement?
not really feeling confident heading into this season after the way Philly just upped the ante.
Bradshaw
It’s all about the guaranteed money. He wants more guaranteed dollars than the Giants are currently offering. AB has no leverage, since no other teams are bidding right now.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
How Giants handle that is key
When you have all the leverage you do not beat the other guy over the head with it – people remember that stuff.
There is a fair deal to be had in there somewhere – where AB walks away happy.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Strong but subtle
No need to point out he hurt is FA value by fumbling the ball.
but dont overpay just to make him happy, sooner or later his agent will let him know this is as good as gets
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
What's up
with SS12 and the Bossman, any news there?
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Are we going to sign a veteran tight end?
Who is still out there? And what’s with Deon Grant?
Zach Miller seems very available (for a price)
and Todd Heap too (whom Rexy wants).
Haven’t heard a peep about Grant.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 31, 2011 8:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd prefer
We sign Zach Miller than Boss. I know he’s been great for us since shock went down But Zach is in another league. Jus as good if not better at run-blocking and Wayyyy better pass-catching abilitiy! And with a good QB like Eli, they can make magic 2gether. He—Like Assumgha and so many other good players—Have been stuck in that Black Hole in Oakland the past cpl yrs. I guarantee that if he came here he would make the pro bowl easily—THIS SEASON!
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know it's probably a ridiculous stretch...but....I keep saying we should figure out a way to sign both. We would have the best TE duo in the league.
The longer they both remain unsigned the lower their price keeps getting.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Boss' Price tag
Should be wayyyyyy down by now! Its a nice thought but highly unlikely, I know we’re only thinking this b/c of the pigeons but those would be the games where Beckham and hopefully Miller—but prally Boss—should cook up their LBs and safeties who’re young and dumb lol. Jus go 2wide 2Te’s and AB and we’ll bake them. DAMMIT we gotta get AB and SS signed man I’m tired of waiting lmao
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
White was signed because he can play center
There has not been much talk on Boss, and the rumor mill on AB has disappeared. Grant is running out of options as well.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
GRant needs to realize
That yes he’s still ‘Good’ as a 10 or 11 year vet whatever he is but he’s not a starter anymore unless he goes to a horrible team. I hope we can resign him for depth or he goes to Houston they need him more than we do……..#ILoveHouston lmaoooo u guys get used to it
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not an exciting pick but it's better to have a veteran backup center than a rookie so it's a yawner of a move.
But so long as it doesn’t affect us $igning any other players it’s nice to have a seasoned backup. With Brewer, Boothe and Petrus this probably just about fills out our OL. (Barring any ______) don’t even want to type the word.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope we're not an option for Grant
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
If White plays center
then he is the same as Boothe, right?
How many guards do you need?
Snee and Diehl, Boothe and Petrus, now White and all the UDFAs. Seems if Petrus is a lock them lots of guys are playing for that one G/C spot.
Status on Koets?
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
you're right
but with the new CBA the camp roster is up to 90. I think they’re just bringing in bodies to practice & complete.
I think our final 53 includes
T : Beatty, Brewer, McKenzie
G: Diehl, Snee, Petrus, Boothe
C : Baas, Koets
But Koets isnt practicing b/c of patella tendintis
White is more experienced at center
Koets was PUPed
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
Im perfectly fine w/ Young guys getting a chance
With Beatty @ LT he’s faster than Diehl and hasn’t been bad when he’s got in. We gave up the least sacks last year and expect that to continue even with the shuffling and Shaun’ new replacement I jus hope he can hold up!
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The OL looks like it's back to being a top line. Beatty/Diehl will be very solid and Baas should hold it solidly at C. Only concern is KMcKenzie's constant back issues. Can Boothe play well enough if KM goes down for a bit.
But overall I think we still have a top 5 OL. And with Diehl back inside there is a ton of BEEF to block for the running game. Hope to see Jacobs and AB get back to dominance.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Mac
played all 16 games last year. Graded out as the top RT. His health isn’t my concern (besides the obvious that anyone can get hurt at any time), it’s getting the line to gell with a new center in there.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe so as well
According to statitics and my madden franchise Draft lol, KMcKenzie was the 2nd best RT in the NFL last year and was very under appreciated! He has 2 good yrs left so use em till Brewer is ready we have our Line on our roster for the next 5 yrs! Unless we take the Best Player available in a future draft that happens to be a C or T
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Im Surprised
Sintim is back on the field already, guys are recovering from acl tears like sprained ankles nowadays! Bout time he gets a chance we don’t need to bring in no stop gap veteran ruining his chance to get gametime experience!
Aaron Ross took one to the house yest…….If only he could do that in games we’d be good lol
And one final note on the Plax situation. On one hand yes we hav a lot of recievers who ‘could’ be good, but its always better to have quality over quantity so signing him wouldn’t be bad at all. On the other hand we already have 10 diff recievers who’ve—at times—shown flashes so they deserve a chance to prove what they can do
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sintim...another tweener. What position is he really best suited for??? But I'll have faith in Fewell that he'll find a role for him - probably pass rushing...
Feel the same way about Plex. If we don’t get him fine. If we do get him I will be excited. As long as you know who doesn’t sign him. Either us or the Steelers and I’ll be happy.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he has what it takes
To play sam or will although I’d prefer to hav Boley behind tuck instead of Osi b/c teams would run RIGHT AT THEM lol/smdh……All he needs like Goff got is a chance to prove it! He was a 2nd round pick
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My biggest problem with our LB core is downfield speed.
Outside of Boley it scares me when the Eagles or Cowboys (etc) run play action. We don’t have another LB with enough speed to make sure we can cover both LeSean McCoy/Brent Celek or Felix Jones/Jason Witten. This is the biggest problem we have had for years now. Our base Def can’t cover RB/TE combos. Sintim as a tweener doesn’t have the speed to cover these kind of players too far beyond the line of scrimmage.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS FROM THE TWITTERVERSE
Plaxico to jets;
MichaelLombardi: Jets jump into the market and sign Plaxico Burress…it was them and the Steelers,..in the end NY won.
Rex Ryan is fat...
as am I, just rejection hurts a lil' bit
like getting shot in the leg not the heart, you know?
Rex Ryan is fat...
sigh
we have a lot of receivers but outside of Nicks and Mario who else is reliable?
by MrDollarBills on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
And he didn't
even break bread with them, LOL…and also good. The franchise QB did not exactly give a ringing endorsement, which speaks volumes!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 31, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as he didn't go to Philly. Just a little annoying that the Jets are making moves and still nothing from Reese. Zzzzzzzz.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Reese
was like an ostrich with his head in the sand, not fully prepared.
Sorry folks, don’t a have pitcher of the Reese koolaid on my table!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i said after he went in two yrs ago
He was going to the Jets when he got out! They were about to sign him b4 he went in but couldn’t. I thought back then it was either the Jets or the Bears and I still believed that till now but just recent events with the eagles and our visit gave a lil more wiggle room. But I always thought he was going to the Jets jus happy it aint the Pigeons
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Reese doesn't have to do anything
the offers to who need to be offered anything are already made. Reese just needs to stay patient and he always does.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
if we try too hard & overreact, (i.e. pay someone lots of money who isn’t worth it) it’ll just put us in a bad situation.
So umm. When are we getting a linebacker?
I see all these other teams getting them but we’re still stuck with the same substitute teachers we had last year…
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
Surely Nick Barnett could be had???
other than him who else is really out there??
Rex Ryan is fat...
How old is Tulloch? Would love a veteran LB, but not an "older" one, i.e. Bullock.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
He is only like 27 or 28 i think.
But i just saw he signed with the lions.
"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable"-Mark Twain
He gone
to the Lions.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 31, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hasnt signed with anyone yet
Just been negotiating with Lions & Chargers! Still I think we would be fine w/o him but hey a + if we get him for a reasonable price and he doesn’t pop an Achilles chasing Mick Vick
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This just in
From: @AdamSchefter
Sent: Jul 31, 2011 9:40a
Expanding on @skjensen report, Lions sign former Titans LB Stephen Tulloch to one-year, $3,250,000 deal, including $1.8 million gtd.
So he’s no longer an option
sent via UberSocial for BlackBerry
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/97662797948784640
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
damn
that’s cheap
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll say this: at this point if/when we do resign AB/Boss/SS12 it damn well better be cheap enough to afford at least one more move.
The market is drying up so we better strike soon and often!!!
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
There's nothing on the market that we need here
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
What about a veteran S for depth at least?
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe
tho I’d rather they keep all the CBs and rotate them in there instead of signing a tortoise like Deon Grant. I also like Tyler Sash to get playing time.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Grant but
he is not a cover guy.
Doesn’t Ross have some safety skills? He is big and fast enough.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Thomas may be best as a safety
tho I guess our nickel CB is pretty much a safety anyway.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
This just in
From: @AdamSchefter
Sent: Jul 31, 2011 9:40a
Expanding on @skjensen report, Lions sign former Titans LB Stephen Tulloch to one-year, $3,250,000 deal, including $1.8 million gtd.
sent via UberSocial for BlackBerry
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/97662797948784640
So he’s no longer an option and that means Barnett’ not going there neither incase JR is interested
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's not that old! And unlike most of our LBs - he's actually played LB in the NFL.
But I’ll stop beating the Barnett drum. I’d bet he’ll sign with Detroit sometime today.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
and injury prone
forgot that little tid bit
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Barnett is Talented
But we gotta keep in mind he’s finished 2 of the last 3 seasons on IR so idk how much $ he wants but I would be cautious
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We have LB's on the roster, Reese has said as much and he wants to see them play.
Unless something changes his thinking, I don’t think we see a guy like Barnett or Tulloch here.
Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES
Yeah I doubt he signs a LB. He has all of these "projects" that he hopes pan out. Who the heck is our LB coach by the way? He's got his hands full with these young ladies.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
No idea But in the words of my fav Coach of all Time Jim Mora
Its been a Horseshit Performance…..Horseshit they can’t do didddly poo, The Coaching is doing a horrible Job Players are doing a horrible job that’s what it boils down to
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With what the eagles are doing
Don’t talk about….PLAYOFFS ya Kidding me….PLAYOFFS I jus hope we can win a game. Dude that Saints rant is the funniest ish I’ve ever seen as far as ‘Meltdowns’ no reporter even asked him a question b4 he went off lmfaooo
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Plax is a Jet Happy its all over he gets the Coach he wants
From: @AdamSchefter
Sent: Jul 31, 2011 9:23a
Filed to ESPN: Plaxico Burress will sign with the N.Y. Jets. Confirmed. 1-year deal for $3,017,000, fully guaranteed. Plax is a Jet.
sent via UberSocial for BlackBerry
On Twitter: http://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/97658635055939585
Kinda happy for him the Jets are going to be very good with him he’s way better than Braylon was ever going to be! Now we can move on and focus on gettin Zach Miller or Nick Barnett
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
All good news aside from Prince
tho I can see that being done soon cuz of the crap that happened with the picks around #19
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Anyone know where I can see a pic of Eli and this supposed "gut" he now has?
Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES
What good news? Huh? If you mean happy that Plex didn't go to Philly ok.
Other than that is there actually any news?
Solidified Oline, and continue to do so.
No injuries on day one.
Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES
Def Happy about that +5
That would made go back to that crack pipe I used after that dodge punt to D-Jax
by AHoustonGiant on Jul 31, 2011 9:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love the comment from Beatty
“The last two years, they were preparing me for this” Hmmm, where’s everyone who screamed for two years that he was a bust because he couldn’t come right in and grab the starting job? Someday, people will realize that most rookies are NOT drafted to be immediate impact players, and that teams with true vision look towards the future even while getting ready for the upcoming season.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions
That's not completely true. 1st, 2nd and sometimes 3rd round picks do come in and make BIG contributions.
But Reese doesn’t usually worry about that. Eagles took DJax & Maclin who contributed right away. Dallas drafted Dez Bryant. I’m not suggesting that we ought to do that. But Reese always seems to completely ignore immediate impact. That’s his style. But some of our competitors have done the opposite and have done very well doing so.
Hakeem Nicks did come in and was pro-ready. I hope Prince also makes some good contributions. And Kenny Phillips was also ready to go. So I’ll take a step back from what I just said! LOL. But the Eagles certainly get more immediate impact from their early round picks then we do.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Early round picks
contribute when they’re required because the team that picked them is weak at that position. It happened for us with Nicks, and the Eagles WR were crap before they got Jackson and Maclin. We picked up a guy at LT who could be our starter for ten years, but because he was developed slowly we had people showing a surprising amount of ignorance as to his true worth. I’ll admit that’s to be determined, but people were ready to cut him before he was even given a shot as the starter.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 31, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
In fairness though at OL and LB we haven't drafted anyone in a long time who could come in and play right away.
And certainly every year there are plenty of players drafted who do come in and contribute right away. Reese, I think more than most GMs, always chooses “talent” over readiness to play. Not criticizing him just making an observation.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Not sure if anyone posted this before. From ESPN last night. We signed two other players beside C/G White who has already mentioned.
By Ohm Youngmisuk
The Giants signed some more bodies for their offensive line.
The Giants signed G Chris White, G Brant Clouser and added TE Christian Hopkins.
The 6-2, 303-pound White is a seven-year veteran who played in six games for Seattle last year. He made eight starts for the Texans in 2009.
Clouser, a 6-2, 305-pound guard, started all four years at Villanova. He was named first team All-America and Colonial Athletic Conference first-team as a senior last year.
The 6-5 Hopkins is from the University of Toledo and played two seasons in the United Football League.
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
So now that Plex is gone do we sign Braylon Edwards?
KIDDING…KIDDING…KIDDING!!!!!
by Manningologist on Jul 31, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
Mr. Dropsy :)
Retaliation is related to nature and instinct, not to law. Law, by definition, cannot obey the same rules as nature. - Albert Camus
Half our team is UDFA :)
BTW, Diehl is handling the situation remarkably.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
he wouldn't have a job if he didn't like the move
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Still, he’s going about things the right way.
Unlike some other guys on the team…
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
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