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Keep Calm and Carry On

First, let me apologize for the stupid cliché of a title, but after the last few days, I think it applies. It's hard not to get caught up in all the hysteria when faced with a constant barrage of football news after months of nothing.

All of us need to take a breather. The Eagles got significantly better this offseason. Based on how they've been performing over the last few years, this does not surprise me in the least. To say that signing Nnamdi somehow makes them unbeatable is just further evidence of how much they've gotten in out head. I want to emphasize that the Eagles are a pretty freakin' good football team with a legitimate chance to win it all this season; however, they are far from unbeatable. Let's break it down, starting with their offense: 

Their OL does not bother me in the least. Do they plan to keep Winston Justice at tackle? Come on now. I like the rookie from Baylor, but he's already 26. 

Michael Vick has a fantastic season, but that's all he had. One fantastic season. Even the Eagles brass isn't ready to give him a long-term contract. His playing style lends itself to injury. Beyond that, he is probably one of the better deep passers in the league, but it's no coincidence that Celek's production dropped off last yet, he isn't as good at those short and intermediate passes. Let me hedge by saying that another year in the system means he could get better, but it isn't like he was hanging out with the coaches all summer. Combine Vick's relative lack of intermediate passing to Desean Jackson's unwillingness to run those crossing routes and that is a serious flaw in the Eagles' offense game. I do think the Maclin and McCoy are damn good players that will have long, successful careers. 

Let's look at the defense:

Trent Cole is a beast, no question about it. I still don't get how he flies under the radar. The trio of cornerbacks they have are excellent. It is most definitely one of the best trios in the league. One big question is, are they going to keep all three? 

Beyond that, Jason Babin really just had one good season. Brandon Graham is coming off of a pretty serious injury. Their defensive tackles don't bother me at all. Their linebackers are meh, to say the least. Jamar Chaney shows some skills in pass coverage, but how often do we pass to the tight end anyway? With the loss of Quentin Mikell, they are starting Nate Allen (coming off a season-ending knee injury) and a rookie safety. we all know how knee injuries can affect even the most promising safeties. What does all of this tell me? They are soft up the middle, a pretty good sign for a team looking to run the ball between the tackles. 

Just a note on Asomugha, I personally think he played with a more well rounded secondary in Oakland. Stanford Routt had a pretty good season despite being targeted all the time and the Raiders safeties are better (or at least more proven) than the ones the Eagles will have. Don't get me wrong, the Eagles corners are significantly better, but it's just something to think about. 

Finally, the coaching:

They have an OL coach trying become a defensive coordinator in...a few weeks? There will at least be some growing pains there. 

For my last point, consider this. The Eagles have never one a Superbowl. They're in our head after beating us 6 times. Don't pretend that it isn't in their head. Andy Reid has to have thought about it. Eagles fans hate whenever other NFC East teams bring that up. It's a pretty big monkey. A superbowl isn't won in free agency, it's won..well, in February. That's one month Andy Reid has not been successful in. 

Just so I don't seem like a huge homer, I do think this Eagles team is built for a SB run this year and would not be surprised if they one. I would be livid, but not surprised.

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Couple of unrelated side notes

Does anybody know the easiest way to get to the Meadowlands for training camp?

And how early should I try to get there if I’m going on Sunday?

Thanks!

by GiantNomad on Jul 30, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely agreed

Sure the Eagles secondary has the talent, but they also got some age. Asomough is getting older (although I think his style will let him play well for a while), Samuel is 30 and isn’t really all that great to be honest, and DRC is young but he’s coming off a mediocre year and is in the last year in his deal and even if he does well this year he’s going to ask for a lot of money, and with DJax and Vick needing to be resigned who knows how much money they’ll send out their way. And as you said, their linebackers and safeties are not good covering. As for our secondary, while we may not have the talent that the Eagles secondary has, we have depth and youth. Antrell Rolle and Kenny Phillips are both above average safeties and are only 28 and 24 respective. KP i believe will have a better year; remember, it took Osi 2 years to recover from his injury, most serious injuries take 2 years for a player to get back to full strength so I can see KP becoming a good player again this year. Cweb was a dominant player 2 years ago and has since then dropped off but is still a very solid corner and is in his prime, TT24 is 26 and is a solid corner getting 5 picks in each of the last 2 seasons, and Prince Amukamara was the best CB coming out of the draft and has the potential to be very very good, and Ross although not that great is our 4th corner for depth. While the Eagles have a great secondary, we are not in a bad position ourself, and we have to realize that our d-line is a lot better than the Eagles defensive line.

by Troy Aikman Sucks on Jul 30, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh come on.

Andy Reid is was totally reading BBV.

by GiantNomad on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh..oh my god!

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 30, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though...

What’s going to happen to DJack? Where are the Eagles in terms of the cap?

by GiantNomad on Jul 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Honestly the Eagles are fine as far as the Cap goes.

We have a few players like Juqua Parker and Hanson who are like 5-6mill in cap hit combined, and they’re buried on the depth chart.. They’ll be cut.

Vick’s hit on the cap is 16mill right now due to the Franchise tag. The Eagles and Vick started negotiations Thurs or Friday, once they hammer out a long term deal his cap hit will probably be round 10mill.

The Eagles have cap credit from last year (or the year before) from what Banner says and that means our cap was higher than what most thought.

Then to make you guys even happier Roseman was asked in a presser yesterday “do you guys have the cap room to go out and keep upgrading the roster?” Roseman deferred to Banner who replied immediately with “Oh hell yes.” (I’m quoting so I shouldn’t get a warning on this one).

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 31, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

joe d is an eagles fan...

"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."

by jcalafiore on Jul 31, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

at best, no doubt

the Eagles end up better then 8-8, I’d sure as hell be surprised

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 30, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still like our draft better

there are multiple parts to the offseason

by kcc444 on Jul 30, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

right...the Giants were the class of the draft

and the Eagles are the unquestionable winners in FA

sigh...

by nywins42 on Jul 31, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're going to start

Watkins at RG. Matthews at MLB. New Kicker, Jarrett will most likely start at SS… I think the Eagles draft compares well with the Giants.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 31, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're starting those guys cuz you didn't resign the previous starters

just cuz they’re starting doesn’t mean its a good idea.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly?

Watkins at RG… Who was worth playing there last season? Nick Cole? Max Jean-Gilles?.. A rookie is an upgrade from them, and a very talented one at that.

Matthews at MLB- Bradley couldn’t stay healthy, it was time to move on.. Not to mention with our DL being the way it is he’s the perfect option for MIKE due to what’s going to be asked of him.

Jarrett at SS- Simple, he’s a big hitter.. He’ll probably come down in the box a lot.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 31, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

rookie is a rookie

can’t be expected to be an upgrade. Doesn’t make a draft class good, especially since its not like they’re beating anyone out.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So?

then why can you guys claim your rookies are better than ours?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 31, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

going by the draft and where they were ranked

we drafted better value across the board.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 31, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rankings don’t mean anything. Remember when Reggie Bush was the #1 rated rookie?

"Philly fans are the greatest in the nation" --- Anyone with common sense

by andyb on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I don't.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 1, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Eagles had guys rated differently? Maybe the Giants had guys rated differently?

It’s not what McShay or Kiper has to say about them, it’s what the Teams have to say…

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Aug 1, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Giants had Austin and Prince as top 15 picks

Jernigan as a mid 2nd rounder, and Brewer a third. All the rest of them were 4-5th round guys.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 1, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

So? The Eagles had all our guys ranked where we got them, so

how can you say we reached?

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Aug 1, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say they reached

I said the Giants got better value at their picks.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Aug 1, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if the Eagles deemed their picks as value on their board,

and the Giants deemed their picks value on their own board…

Then who’s to say which team had the better draft?

The Eagles filled needs with 3 guys who will help day 1 and produce well.. Added a Kicker who is Akers with a stronger leg and added young high ceiling depth who will help in years to come.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Aug 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matthews at MLB?

Every report I’ve read says the guy would have been a good special teams player, a good backup and you’re trying to tell me that he’s going to be a great starter year one? Right.

Jarrett has the potential to be really good, but he’s still and unproven rook.

Also, let me know when you actually sign Watkins, it’s hard to be a starter when you haven’t seen the playbook, aren’t in practice and the season starts in a few weeks. I feel the same way about Amukamara, but he doesn’t need to start for us yet.

by GiantNomad on Jul 31, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what

You’ve read on Matthews but he’s looking very good in practice.. And I never said great, he just has to be solid, the greatness will come.

Jarrett has tons of potential.

On Watkins, his agent is messing things up.. If he doesn’t get in McGlynn looked good enough playing last season sliding him over to RG wouldn’t be rough on us…

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 31, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our drafts are opposite w_e

Ours are all + value for the slot.
Yours are all reaches.

Smashmout

by Shaunthegiant on Jul 31, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

Watkins was touted as a middle first round talent who the media claimed would drop to the 2nd.. Snagging him up late in the 1st wasn’t a bad move at all. And you know Andy, when he loves and OLman he’s going to get him.

Jarrett wasn’t a reach at all, everybody had him going in the 2nd.

Marsh, once again everybody was looking to see him in the 3rd.

Matthews was said to be a 3rd-6th rounder depending upon who was talking.

Henery was kinda a reach, but rumors were teams were gonna snatch him up in the beginning of the 4th.

Dion Lewis and Vandervelde were picked in the round most people said they would be.

John Kelce was a guy who people said would go earlier than the 6th..

Rolle was slated as a 4th rounder we got him in the 6th.

Lloyd and Havili were typical late round flyers the Eagles make.

All in all early in the draft the Eagles targeted and got who they wanted (Watkins, Jarrett, Marsh, Matthews and Henery) then they went for value in the 5th and 6th.. Then they took flyers in the 7th..

I’m not going to be like you and try and pretend to know anything about others drafts… outside of Amukamara I don’t think you got any steals.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Jul 31, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not worried about Austin at all,

I doubt he gets to Vick, gotta catch him to tackle him.. that and our OL is going to be much better.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

-Awarded by Number5

Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!

by wild_eagle on Aug 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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