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Nnamdi Asomugha: Are The Giants Doomed? I Don't Think So

Nnamdi Asomugha.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

When I posted Friday night regarding Nnamdi Asomugha's stunning decision to sign with the Philadelphia Eagles there was a lot of gnashing of teeth around these parts. The doomsday chatter far outweighed the commentary from those who, more or less, shrugged and moved on.

Some examples:

This really really sucks
Reese can't panic, but he also can't say the team has right now is good enough, because it isn't.

-- by Syler

I'm in pain
the eagles can now trade samuel for a top-flight d-lineman. they're D is going to be fearsome.

-- by TheGifford

I'm not gonna do what everybody thinks I'm gonna do
And FLIP OUT!
seriously, the Eagles are the biggest hurdle between us and the SB (or just the playoffs for that matter).
I think it's completely fair for us to be freaking out. Good catch for the Eagles.

-- by pataroons

I hate the Eagles
Every time they do something it makes me cringe! I'm not panicking or anything but this just stinks. I could have lived with him going to the Cowboys or even the hated Jets but this just kills me.

-- by Kirt Morose

This next one is the ultimate 'jump off the cliff, we have no chance, all is lost' comment.

Falling Behind
The thing that strikes me is that as the Eagles are getting better we are getting worse. Eagles picked up 2 All Pro CBs and an All Pro DL. We cut 3 OL (2 starters), haven't re-signed Bradshaw, Boss or Smith. We've replaced 1 OL. Reese hasn't even made time to speak with Osi. Seriously what is he so busy doing? Doesn't take very much time to cut players and then sign no one. At best it looks like our team will have lost veterans and not replaced most of them. And we wasted draft picks too. How many WRs do we need in camp? Jernigan was a huge waste of a pick. At best he's our 4th or 5th WR. So we'll just cut another WR who would have been just fine riding the pine. Eagles are running a well organized plan and it looks like Reese is lost right now. We are just cutting players and then adding no one.

-- by Manningologist

You know what I say to all of this? Calm down. Take a deep breath. Let everything play out. The season is a month-and-half-away, and a lot can happen.

Star-divide

The reality is, the Eagles were good Friday morning. Friday night they got better. Good for them, that's what NFL teams are supposed to do. Philadelphia has beaten the Giants six straight times, and Friday night they raised the bar even more. It is sort of like Red Sox-Yankees -- each team continues to try and get better to outdo the other. What the Eagles did Friday is throw the latest salvo. So what?

I was a little surprised this morning that good friend Ernie Palladino, a veteran writer who I thought would not fall prey to cliff-jumping (it's not good for you at Ernie's age), called the Eagles "a twice-a-year nightmare" for the Giants. Ernie also wrote:

Now the Giants have a big problem. The Eagles, by far their main competition for the NFC East title, just improved themselves by a lot defensively. They were, at one point, susceptible to the big play, as their 31 passing touchdowns allowed indicated. But Asomugha takes that away now.

Given the firepower of the Eagles' offense, a defensive addition like Asomugha makes that point-scoring potential with Michael Vick, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, and Jason Avant all the scarier.

Star-Ledger columnist Steve Politi took a more level approach to the Asomugha signing, saying that both the Giants and New York Jets -- the other serious bidder for Asomugha -- will survive. Here is part of what Politi wrote:

 

Both teams will survive this.

The Giants must accept that the team that has beaten them six straight times just got a lot better.

But it hasn’t been the Eagles defense that has dominated them. Their offense has scored an average of 37.5 points in the last four meetings with the Giants, which is enough to win no matter who’s lined up at cornerback.

I am on Politi's side in this argument. Of course, I have always believed that you worry about what you can control, now what you can't. For the Giants, that is the Giants. GM Jerry Reese and the Giants organization can only do everything in their power to field the best team possible, and if you don't think they are trying to do that I'm not sure what I can tell you to convince you otherwise.

Before Friday, the Eagles were the biggest obstacle in their path. Right now, that hasn't changed.

Sure, I know how good Asomugha is. But, he can only cover one guy. Do Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Asante Samuel actually scare you that much.

The Giants are a very good football team. The biggest issue for Tom Coughlin's team has nothing to do with Asomugha, the Eagles, the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Jets or any other team. The biggest issue is the Giants have to stop beating themselves.

Five turnovers in last season's first loss to Philly. Blowing a 28-point lead in the second loss. Leading the league with 42 turnovers a season ago. Giving up bushels of big plays on defense and on special teams.

Those things are about the Giants. Yes, the Eagles got better. Take care of those issues, though, and the Giants will also be much better.

That is what the Giants need to worry about. Not who is playing cornerback for the Eagles.

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i'm not as worried

Asante Samuel can be beaten and DRC is a good corner, but not a great one. Nicks against Asomugha will be a fun match up and i’m looking forward to it. i agree that if the Giants just hold it together and don’t shoot themselves in the foot… or leg for that matter, that they can hold their own against the rest of the league and contend this year

by NJsandman on Jul 30, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey Ed

What is our cap space right now?

by Maryland Fan on Jul 30, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure exactly

It’s pretty fluid w/comings and goings.

by Ed Valentine on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is he great?

Of course he’s great. Everybody forgets about how close the Giants were to winnign twice last year. An Osi manicure and a KP whiff on Celek go the other way and this is a completely different offseason. But they didn’t, so we are where we are. Anyone who doesn’t think we have improved our team is just not paying attention. Our Oline has gotten younger and more talented form last year. Our ST has improved (the talent at least). I’m more worried about signing Prince. Does anyone have news on that?

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by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 30, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Even if the Eagles sweep us

we can still go 14-2.

Eagles still don’t have safeties, and we all know how much a defense can suck without decent safeties.

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Jul 30, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

And anyone that sayd their LBz

are better than ours need to defend that position.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 30, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I truly hope

your sarcasm meter was running? Take a good look at the schedule and where we play some of these road games this season.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Jul 30, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was pointing out

that it doesn’t matter that much about the Eagles, they’re only two games on the schedule.

This team can contend with any other team, and I don’t care who they’re playing

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Jul 30, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think you're misreading it.

He’s saying that even if we lose the 2 to Philly, there’s plenty more wins to be had and get the 10 or so we need to be a playoff team.

by TNYFBG on Jul 30, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true, BUT,

the psyche of this team will not be nearly as strong as I would like if they don’t beat Philly. They beat Philly and their confidence meter will be sky high. And for a team as good as ours, we just need that little extra something to make us SB contenders. This Giants team NEEDS to beat Philly to be the best they can be.

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by tommy d. on Jul 30, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep that's what I meant

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Aug 1, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truer words have never been spoken...
The biggest issue is the Giants have to stop beating themselves.

He’s a great player, but he’s not our main problem; the WHOPPING 42 turnovers are. It’s a miracle we won 10 games last year. That’s a testament to the talent on this team.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 30, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

I tell everyone that as well… we went 10-6 in spite of turning the ball over 42 times… If someone says JR doesnt know what he is doing, Ed is right… There is nothing we can say… Me personally, I blame Quinn and Killdrive every chance I get.

by Skii31 on Jul 30, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not worried...

I think the eagles are compensating for the lack of home grown talent…. If N.A. (lol) pulls a hammy or hurts his toe, the eagles are pretty much back in the same boat they were in, just minus the millions of dollars they spent on the guy.

The biggest hurdle the giants have to cross is themselves… If you look back to last year, we only got beat 2 maybe 3 times… the other losses were self iniflicted…

by Skii31 on Jul 30, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Wasn’t Nnamdi the greatest corner in the league when Eli torched the Raiders a few seasons ago? The Philly defense doesn’t scare me, it never has. Didn’t Eli torch them last year as well? Even after we got down in that first game, didn’t we then have a lead against them and were we not driving before the Eli self fumble?

Did Eli not have a hell of a game before another self fumble the year before at the Meadowlands? Philly NEEDED Nnamdi because while they’ve beaten us 6 times in a row they haven’t dominated us. Each game has come down to one Giant mistake. I hate the idea of Nnamdi being so great that whomever gets him is now the Super Bowl favorite. One corner on the field is only going to do but so much. And we have a quarterback that could give a damn about who’s on the field. The Eagles can and will be beat.

by DaWriter on Jul 30, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

true that...

If the Giants can get that running game back to form with Jacobs destroying the D and Ahmad cleaning up after his good work, then things will open up for Eli and company. If they have to rely on Eli throwing 8 to 12 yrd passes all them time, it could be a long year. I want to see Brandon lower his should and plow through Nnamdi on his very first run VS the Eagles. Then let’s see how quickly Mr. Superstar challenges again later on…

by LightningCoach on Jul 30, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the facts DaWriter!

All true what you said. The Giants are good enough to beat them, no friggin’ doubt in my mind. But they NEED to beat them. Right now Philly and all their fans have all the confidence in the world against our boys and rightfully so. They will be just waiting for the Giants to beat themselves.

And I hate knowing that they are right because that is exactly what has been happening. We gotta beat them and get that all important confidence collectively as a team.

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by tommy d. on Jul 30, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Everybody:

I just want to remind you of two facts.

1) The team that wins the offseason rarely, if ever, wins the championship.

2) Good teams can be made, or made better in free agency, but great teams and dynasties are built through the draft. I’m not going to claim that The Giants are the team of this decade, however they have been building a great corp of young talent, that is as broad and deep as any in the league, and more so than most.

I could go through the specifics, but the rational know them already, and the panicked won’t care.

But consider this: The Giants have.an ever improving Superbowl MVP QB, the best WR corp, running game, defensive line, pass rush, and deepest secondary on the NFC Easy… And is tops or close to the top in the rest of the NFC. And its all young and home grown.

They should be worried about US.

by Raptor22 on Jul 30, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

What????

How many tipped balls and ints off the hands of this best receiving Corp? How many big plays given up by secondary? Reeses words, not mine. Be a fan, but geez, with eyes open please.

by nygmen123 on Jul 30, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

in all due respect

what about Maclin, Jackson, Celek, Herremans, Trent Cole, and Nate Allen aren’t they home grown talent? Way off base about the fact the eagles don’t draft well.

by Get Jackson a better nickname on Jul 31, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where do you see it said that the Eagles don't draft well?

I see this all the time and is annoying. People read one thing and hear another.

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by tommy d. on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what the phrase

“Home grown talent” implies

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Jul 31, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a bit of a stretch, no?

I’m reading it as the Giants have more home grown talent than the Eagles. That point can be debated, but you have to jump to the conclusion that what he was thinking, and writing, was also that the eagles don’t draft well. Which is ridiculous because they do draft well.

I just don’t see it. I think your a little too sensitive on this one

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by tommy d. on Aug 1, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great point Ed

Nnamdi can only cover one person. DRC covers the other. I think if we are able to get Plax we could potentially cancel out them out. Nicks or Plax would be our #1. That leaves the #3 and #4 WR to make plays for you. That would be Manningham and SS12, or Plax!

I like our chances if this is the case. With Plax we would have the best receiving corps in the league.

by brandon7 on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Great point Ed

Nnamdi can only cover one person. DRC covers the other. I think if we are able to get Plax we could potentially cancel out them out. Nicks or Plax would be our #1. That leaves the #3 and #4 WR to make plays for you. That would be Manningham and SS12, or Plax!

I like our chances if this is the case. With Plax we would have the best receiving corps in the league.

by brandon7 on Jul 30, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Seriously

I could care less who the Eagles have, all I ask is the Giants get out there and try to bash their heads in on every single play, leave it all out on the field and I ask the equivalent from the coaches. Whatever comes of it after that so be it. Fear or worry about this team I will never do, and I hope every single Giants player, coach and fan takes the same approach! F#$% the Eagles, I’m ready for some F…ing football!!!

by NYCGMEN on Jul 30, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The Eagles got better, sure

but their defense was pretty friggin bad last year. They got 2 new CBs and Jason Babin, who stunk with them the last time he played there. Absolutely needed upgrades and to add Asomugha and DRC to any team, they’d say they upgraded.

Doesn’t mean they’re unbeatable, doesn’t mean the Giants should be scared of them and doesn’t mean the Eagles defense is going to be great either. They’ve had two good CBs before (Taylor and Vincent) and the Giants beat the snot out of them plenty of times.

I’m much more interested to see if our offense stays healthy. If we have a healthy OL and RBs, we can run it down anyone’s throats. Our defense will be fine too.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 30, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Fa acquisitions have a long and storied history of underperformingin the nfc east

See: pacman jones, haynesworth, antrel, bernard..plenty others

Plax was great till he bit the bullet, n vick showed signs of regression last year

I’m happy if asante goes cuz hes been the real eli killer

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 30, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh about Asante

one game he’d be great against us.

But we wrecked him when we did stop n go’s and other routes where it made him jump one way only to punk him somewhere else

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Jul 30, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many of those guys were on the eagles

though you could always reply with jevon kearse

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Jul 31, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm off the cliff

Good reasoning, Ed. But if the Eagles sign a linebacker, I’m jumping back on!

by TheGifford on Jul 30, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

The challenge is there

for the Giants. It’s up to them to meet it.

by Tom13901 on Jul 30, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Last year

about this time, everyone, and I mean everyone, thought that the Cowboys were going to go all the way. It didn’t work out that way.

The Cowboys are too pitiful to hate anymore but I enjoy it.

by MtSpider43 on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Injuries can do that to ya…one injury, one misstep, one thing that just wasn’t supposed to happen…that’s all it takes.

by LightningCoach on Jul 30, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of injuries

I maintain that DJack is always one solid hit away from season-ending injury. Him just a wittle guy.

by TNYFBG on Jul 30, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Let everybody pick the Eagles to come home with the Super Bowl. Let everybody talk about how it’s already predetermined that the JETS will play the EAGLES in the Super Bowl this season. Go ahead peeps, have at it. Then, the Giants can just smile and wave boys…just smile and wave as the win one game, and another, and another…under the radar. Just the way Eli likes it.

by LightningCoach on Jul 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That very well may be the narrative early this season.

Jets vs. Philly in the SB

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by tommy d. on Jul 30, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO WAY!!!

People NEVER sleep on NE!! That is one of the most ridiculous statements every!! As long as they have Belechick and Brady they are always one of the favorites for the SB! Before the Nnamde signing all I read and heard about was how NE could do with Ocho what they did with Moss in ’07!

by eyerish9299 on Jul 30, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

GB and NE

are the SB favorites according to Vegas. Both are at 7-1

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by tommy d. on Jul 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't have to o much cap room left

I heard they have around 8 mill n still have to pay desean jackson n are in contract negotiations with vick

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

That's why

they move Asante IMO.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

They said this am

that they have $20mm tied up in the 3 corners. That’s a big % on only 3 players and 1 position.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Jul 30, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If your number is correct

That makes me happy. I was thinking it was less than that.

But if they have 8 mill in space as it stands now, then they can open up more by extending Vick. Vick is tagged at 16 mill per (I’m ballparking). If you extend him at about 13-15 per year, then you open up space. Then you cut Joselio Hanson and Juqua Parker to open up more than enough space for Deseans estimated 10 mill per.

I don’t think anybody knows what the Eagles cap situation is, but if they have 8 mill in space now, then they’re in great shape.

by Smitty2K3 on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the main point has been

Six straight losses, The team that inflicted them now much better, and if it’s ourselves that have beaten us, then why are we focused on resigning the guys that managed that? Sugarcoat it all you like, I do not see how, besides a punter, we are better this year. Perhaps this article should be written when we’ve done something to rectify that.

by nygmen123 on Jul 30, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Oline is better

Dline will be younger and possibly better. ST’s have better players and athletes. If that’s not improvement, you need to open a window and get some fresh air.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 30, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We all know very well...

That the best players don’t always make the best teams. Yeah, the Eagles are going to be a heck of a team this year, but that FAR from guarantees them anything. Just ask the Miami Heat. Let’s not hand them anything just yet. I believe there are 31 teams out there that will want to have their say before it’s all said and done.

by LightningCoach on Jul 30, 2011 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The eagles offseason reminds me to much of our ‘09 offseason. In ’09 most thought we were going to be unstoppable on defense. What happened? That’s right! We stunk it up! Now everybody is on a high with the eagles defense. Remember they also have a new defensive coordinator just like we did in ‘09. It’s one thing to look great on paper. The question will be can they put it all together? We shall see. I for one am not convinced just yet. Let’s not crown them so soon. Anything can happen.

by Nygmen0088 on Jul 30, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Some thought so

But comparing Boley canty and Bernard to nnmadi is foolish. I don’t remember being sold on ANY of those FAs, nor were many on here.

by nygmen123 on Jul 30, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nov 20 PHI @ NYG...

oh that may be fun

by LightningCoach on Jul 30, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess after one day

we can all calm down about the eagles, as I remember our Giants were the ones beating the undefeated Pats in the SB, the eagles can have all their success on free agents, they can have their decade as one of the best, but call me when they actually win the big one.

by Bajaserge on Jul 30, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Sports history is FILLED...

With teams who are not supposed to win, winning! Eagles look great on paper….no doubt. doesn’t guarantee them a darn thing.

by LightningCoach on Jul 30, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as I know

the pressure is on them not us, nothing short of winning the super bowl will be considered a failure by EVERYBODY including the iggles fans

by Bajaserge on Jul 30, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, it's the first day of practice and we already lost to the Eagles twice

I’m sick of all this pessimism. It’s bad enough living in the Philly area and listening to a bunch of A-holes talk about their team going to the superbowl every year. I come to this site to get away from that. This is ridiculous, they got 1 guy and everybody is freaking out.

by PBR Pounder on Jul 30, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like this is made for Plax

Who can forget him torching ProBowl corner Al Harris.

too many pucks to da head

by StubsNY on Jul 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

or ellis hobbs on the slant corner route

in the super bowl

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 30, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the giants did fine against him when we blew the raiders out of the water

who says we cant do the same to him on the eagles?

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 30, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets not forget

That we have prince amukamara and perry fewell whos one of the best at improving a secondary plus the eagles defensive coordinator was an offensive line coach last year so the giants should be fine if they sign plax and bradshaw

by Giantfan153 on Jul 30, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Eagles

give them props football and baseball they are on top of their game……The Giants really need Plax more now than ever his size negates their CB if he can still play, OSI needs to get in camp Bradshaw needs to sign and some solid depth for the OL. If that all happens I fear no team we can compete with any team if we don’t beat our selves.

by trinity giant on Jul 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Free agent signings

I think if you review the history of sports there are far more situations where supposedly devastating free agent signings just didn’t pan out the way things were predicted to.

NA is an excellent player and definitely improves the Eagles at a position of need. But he’s not superman. Babin may or may not be an upgrade for their D-Line. But they have no safeties with more than a year of experience, no linebackers with more than 2 years of experience, average defensive tackles, an offensive line that has lots of questions and no experienced back ups, no depth at running back after McCoy, and their back up quarterbacks are Vince Young and Mike Kafka — if Vick takes a hit or two too many. Is it possible that this move will push the Eagles to the Super Bowl. Possibly, but history says things don’t always turn out they way they might appear on paper. It’s just as likely that some of the Giants young players will blossom and help the team win some key games. Let the games begin.

For the same reason, put me down in the camp that doesn’t want Burress back. That move has the look of one that looks far better on paper than on the field.

by Tucker Fredrickson on Jul 30, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

DRC wasn't good at all last year

However I think that if we beat the eagles this year it will be because we ran the ball on them effectively.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Jul 30, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, Vonta

That is all.

And maybe signing AB.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Jul 30, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've calmed down a bit

but you all can’t deny, it would have been nice if he signed in Houston.

BBV- Bring Back Van Pelt

by pataroons on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

This

I actually swore when I saw they signed Joseph. Perfectly good move for them, but I knew the chances got better NA would end up somewhere I didn’t like.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 30, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vegas Super Bowl odds:

I’m not really a gambler, but I always like to look to Vegas to see what they think. Especially with the NCAA Tourney, the odds help me pick upsets.

Anyway, the odds have not changed on Philly winning the SB with the Nnamdi signing as of this morning on an updated odds-maker site that I have checked in the past. Take these for what they are worth:

GB and NE 7-1
PIT and NYJ 8-1
NO, SD, IND, ATL 9-1
BAL and DAL 10-1
PHI 12-1
NYG and CHI 15-1

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by tommy d. on Jul 30, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that stood out to me as well.

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by tommy d. on Jul 30, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's because there are idiots

who think they’re fans that always bet on the cowboys.

Same thing with the Cubs in baseball

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Aug 1, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

My take

Summer tends to be a busy time living at the beach, so I’ve missed a lot of time here at BBV. Luckily, I just got DirecTV and the NFL Network, so I’ve been able to keep up for the most part of what’s going on in this frantic preseason. Anyway, here’s my thoughts.

This is a great move for the Eagles, and it’s def a blow for us. One player isn’t going ruin our chances, but we have a hard enough time with the Iggles as it is. This won’t exactly stifle our passing game as we have quite a few receiver options, but the answer is going to be to pound the rock. Restructuring Jacobs deal was a good move (especially for Jacobs, glad you still want to be on this team), now we just need to resign Bradshaw. Oh yeah, and sign a few linemen to open up a few holes for these guys. It takes a lot more than big names to win a SB, but we currently have more holes than we have plugs to fill em.

by YankeeDudeL on Jul 30, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I can't believe I'm about to say this

Manningologist makes me long for zillag. At least he is somewhat rational.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-

by wilddre22 on Jul 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, there 3 dudes on here who are downright ridiculous with it.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 30, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zillag at least made sense and seemed to be a Giants fan at heart

the Debbie Downers and doomsday brigade seem to be handing the division to the other guys already

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Aug 1, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we see PFF numbers for 5

Nnamdi
DRC
Asante
CW
TT

Any other objective data (or subjective) would be interesting.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nnadmi is a baller

But I’ve never been too high on DRC. The guy is quick and a pretty good coverage corner but he is one scrawny dude. NFC East is a WAY more physical division than NFC West. I can’t imagine trying to tackle someone like Jacobs or Jason Witten. Personally I would take our depth in the secondary over Phillidelphia’s stars anyday. Prince might turn out to be better than all their guys so I’m not gonna worry.

One time, my mom bought me a Plaxico Buress jersey for my birthday. The next season he shot himself in the leg. I'm asking for a DeSean Jackson jersey this year.

by Jairdare on Jul 30, 2011 2:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm sorry, but what exactly is doom-mongering about what I said?

Right now, this team isn’t better than the Eagles.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 30, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Right now we aren't better than Washington either

Or Dallas, Or Carolina, or whoever. Everyone is 0-0 right now.Let’s get a few games in and see where everyone stands. With the short preseason it’s gonna be interesting. And be glad you aren’t a Dolphins fan. Yeesh.

One time, my mom bought me a Plaxico Buress jersey for my birthday. The next season he shot himself in the leg. I'm asking for a DeSean Jackson jersey this year.

by Jairdare on Jul 30, 2011 3:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Preseasons gonna be the same length as always

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-

by wilddre22 on Jul 30, 2011 11:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

have fun with that

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 30, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The biggest issue is the Giants have to stop beating themselves.

…forgive me….but give me a break. That’s just delusional. Six times guys…six times.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.

by immynimmy on Jul 30, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

considering how the games played out, it'd be delusional to think the Eagles were the cut and dry winners each time

sorry. The Eagles won no doubt, fair and square even. But each and every single one of those games could’ve went to either side.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He look...

A post about why the Eagles signing Namdi isn’t the end of the world.

What an awesome idea…wish I had thought of it.

It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.

by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 30, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

the

giants can win 9-10 games if they stay helghy and get good O-line play

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by j-man on Jul 30, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I like your optimism Ed

and it’s true the Giants can only control what they do. But right now, they aren’t really doing much like some of your comments you highlighted pointed out. Sure they had to get under the cap, but taking care of what they can control on the field is only half of the game. The other half is the front office. And right now the Eagles front office is owning the Giants front office as well.

If they don’t get the pieces to control the play on the field then they can’t and won’t get any better.

by slandog on Jul 31, 2011 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Ed

My comment was meant to express my dislike of the Eagles not to proclaim doom and gloom for our G-Men. I have posted some positive things after the initial shock wore off. I am by no means bowing down to the Eagles but I know our 2 a year has gotten tougher.
I would be a lousy Giant fan if I didn’t think my team is the best. Sure we have to get our free agents signed and I still trust Jerry, but for me anything the Eagles do will always roast my peanuts.

by Kirt Morose on Jul 31, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

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