John Mara: Giants 'Long Way' From Signing Plaxico Burress
by Ed Valentine on Jul 28, 2011 2:59 PM EDT
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PrintHere is the latest on the Plaxico Burress to the New York Giants rumors, courtesy of Giants President John Mara. Mara was on PFT Live today, and had this to say about Burress.
"He is coming tomorrow evening and he and Tom [Coughlin] are going to sit down, and that’s step one of the process. And if we move successfully past step one of the process, then we have to see if he fits in terms of our salary cap situation and everything. ...
"We’re a long way from being there, and we’ll just have to see what happens," Mara said. "But obviously he was a tremendous player for us and one of the big reasons that we won that Super Bowl. I think it would have been foolish for us not to even have the conversation with him.
"So we’ll see what happens when he comes in tomorrow evening and what happens that. But obviously you have to be interested in someone who has that kind of talent."
From everything we have been reading and hearing this week, it sounds like Mara is pushing GM Jerry Reese and Coughlin to at least take a serious look at bring Burress back to New York.
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Is there any word on if Steve Smith is going to be PUP or not?
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
Brad Smith to the Bills.
There was a blurb the other day that the Giants might be interested. So I guess Jernigan better really get ready for PR/KR. Maybe Hixon will show return to form for PR too.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 28, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
BOOOOOOOO Brad Smith
i really wanted that dude on the gents. such a threat. why would the bills sign him when they have the KR/PR specialist CJ Spiller???
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We drafted Jernigan to be the KR/PR
On top of that Hixon is back too, so I can’t see us making Brad Smith a priority, hell we still got to get AB back.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Step one and done.
“He is coming tomorrow evening and he and Tom [Coughlin] are going to sit down, and that’s step one of the process. And if we move successfully past step one of the process, then we have to see if he fits in terms of our salary cap situation and everything. …
Why is Tom Quinn still here?
step one def the hardest step
if those two arent choking each other after 5 min at the table together, id consider it a win
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a miracle they are even meeting for Dinner
Plax would be a good addition, I hope we could make this work,
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
for sure
especially if Plaxico signs with us
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Why, does he have a big $alary #? Or is he feared not healed?
Because IF healthy (and that’s a big if) and he can return to form, I can see him surviving cuts ahead of Barden, Hagan, Cruz, Reynaud..
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 28, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Hixon was due 2.4 mill but that was before the new cba
But 44 is right Jernigan will suplant him.
Why is Tom Quinn still here?
Barden will make the team over Hixon
there’s no chance he’s not a Giant.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
i agree
i think our wideouts will be hakeem, plaxico, mario, ss12(on pup) barden, jernigan, and then id say cruz going back and forth from practice squad to number 6/7 receiver
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt Hixon is Hixon till next season anyway
Players usually need two years to get back to wear they were before the knee injury
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
he probably was anyway
Jernigan will probably make the team and he does everything Hixon does and more.
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Fuggedaboutit
We don’t need him. He was never as good as the hype anyway.
rewatch the 08 nfc championship against green bay
that is all
"I have smoked weed with alot of UFC champions" - Joe Rogan
"Você ta fudido. Se vai levar muita porrada, ta ligado?" - Anderson Silva
yeesssssssssssssss
that game right there shows how he can take a world class CB and make him look like a high school player.
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
'07....
and yes, go watch that game, b/c if you’ll notice….Jennings was playing in that game too.
He was a relative nobody….so was Tramon Williams.
now they’re both straight killing it.
meanwhile Plax is 4 years older.
Let Ramses, NIcks, and MM Play!!!
TeamJPP
True, but didn't we run the ball better and more then?
by giant fan since 57 on Jul 28, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
teh OL was younger and healthier
didn’t have anything to do with Cardboard Cutout Burress
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Cardboard Cutout Burress
I want one of those for my room
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Klob deal done - 2nd rounder & Rodgers-Cromartie.
Fick, I hate to see the Eagles make out like that. Was hoping they’d get left holding the bag, settle for very little, then Vick get hurt..
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
i hate the eagles
why do u have to be a nice guy? itd be easier if you sucked
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait till we play the Eagles
You won’t have a problem getting pissed at Jimmey when he starts reminding you how many times in a row the Eagles have beaten us.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
just remind him no one in an Eagle uni live or dead ever had the hardware i've seen my team do 3 times in my life
and they never will.
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, tell me you wouldn't like to see Sintim do to Vick
what he did to Romo..
I agree though, I don’t really root for enemy player injuries either, but Vick might be a special case.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 28, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What did Sintim do to Romo
Was he even dressed?
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his first sack in 2009 was Romo
he knocked the crap out of him.
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Sintim has a sack?!?!?
Must have missed that one.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
just like Barden being compared to Anthony Mix
..I guess so.
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LOL...
I was about to compair Sintum to Gerris Wilkenson. Guess I am getting impatient with these guys.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a fine comparison at least
tho Wilkinson was covering Randy Moss 40 yards downfield in 2007, really the injuries killed his career.
But Barden is far from an unknown. Its really a shame he got hurt, the guy was excellent in that 2nd Cowporks game last year.
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I agree
He was having a good game. Plus the first cowboy game he had like a 30 yard sideline catch on 3rd down
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOM
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A Clint Sintum sighting!
I stand corrected.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
its ok
I forgot about it till it was mentioned above
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't believe it until you posted that pic
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
It would be great to see that a lot this year!
"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable"-Mark Twain
I remember
he was untouched on the way too
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
i disagree
it was an extremely joyous moment for me when boley broke romo in half
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i also enjoyed chopping the lions qbs down
and bashing the bears into submission
and killing matt shaubb
and etc. etc.
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaawww Tom W thats nice!
Can you say brand new concussion for Desean Jax
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign the big man up!
then i cant get ripped on for my tagname anymore!
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
Why is Tom Quinn still here?
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
by Fester McDougal on Jul 28, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting Plax means getting rid of....
Barden. Barden will never see the field with Plax on the team. He’s a niche player, a big red zone target and Plax will totally fill that roll. It’ll be Nicks, Plax, Smith, Manningham, Jernigan and probably 1 more guy between Hixon, Cruz, Calhoun, Thomas, Clayton, Giguere, Hagan, Reynaud, Barden, and anyone else they invite to camp. That’s going to be a cut throat competition right there.
no way man
unless hixon restructures he is gone… there is no reason not to keep barden and plax both
im gonna go ahead and predict nicks, mario, plaxico, ss12 on pup, barden, jernigan and cruz
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i could see jeringan doing a year of practice squad
like our boy Manningham did his rookie season
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ would never make it to the PS
players are cut after camp then resigned to the practice squad. The minute he is cut, a team will sign him. Ham in 2008 was on the 53 man rooster but was not active for alot of games
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
no upside for Hix
and he’s coming off the knee inj so…..
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
getting Plax means they get Plax
he’d be here for a year or two and ONLY cuz Steve Smith might not be 100%. Barden is too young to cut.
The Giants aren’t shortsided enough to cut him. Reynaud, Clayton, THomas, Guguere and Hagan are all nothings. Hixon would be the only one they’d consider, and like I said above its between Hixon and Jernigan, and that’s no contest in Jernigan’s favor.
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what if plaxico comes back in 07 form?
then will he only be here for one year?
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 28, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he's 34
so yea.
I’ve said all along that I doubt the Giants keep Burress in the 2008 offseason, that’s how bad he was that year. Maybe the lack of wear and tear for a year he’s good in a limited role, but 2007 was a long time ago. He wasn’t in 2007 form in 2008.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
he was playing without a brain in 2008
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
click clack
Boom. Thanks for stopping by at latin quarters can I get you bullets or a drink?
by wrxsti28 on Jul 28, 2011 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
plaxico no practiso
hes been “hurt” for years.. all of 2007 and 2008 he played but didnt practice due to ankle problems
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember him not practicing at all the entire year so he could just play in the game… was that ’08?
07 and 08
07 he was fine, 08 wou could tell he hasnt practised
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he's ever practiced when he was here
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But all we need him to do is catch touchdowns.
He’s the biggest distraction to opposing teams that the NFL has ever seen. I expect a beast year from Eli, Manningham and Nicks, and whoever are our Runningbacks.
hard to stay in 07 form
when youll be 35 soon. hes got 2-3 years max, and im being generous, of high quality football in him
by Plaxico Burress on Jul 28, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
he would have a reduced work load
He’s not going to be on the field for every offensive down like he used to be. He shouldn’t get as beat up. Nicks and Smith are still going to get the bulk of the looks.
Too Young to cut?
I think they’d keep one of the other guys who are going to help them more on special teams. Not necessarily on returns, but in coverage. Barden hasn’t shown anything to make me think the giants are high enough on him that he is untouchable.
Barden helped them in coverage last year
this is why Cruz (who is the one everyone’s thinking about being useless on special teams) was cut and Barden wasn’t.
Like I said, Hixon’s the only one that would help on specials. He’s redundant now.
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he was activated off the PS
so yes, he got cut then was put on the roster. Then he was IR’d.
Barden made the team over him.
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?
Do you mean Practice Squad, when you say “PS?” Because Victor Cruz was never on the Practice Squad.
he wasn't?
oh well…he still wasn’t activated cuz he’s useless on special teams, so it changes nothing.
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Yeah
Duke and Cruz were undrafted and both made the 53 after camp broke
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and there's nothing about any of the others that shows they'd take them over Barden
Barden is 6"6 230lbs. They’re not cutting him.
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So was Anthony Mix
Barden better perform on the field or it;s gonna be a rainy night in the meadowlands for him
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Mix was undrafted and slow
Barden even in his limited time on the field last year proved he belonged. I can’t believe people didn’t see him play last year, it was very obvious how much talent he has.
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Barden was a 3rd rounder that the current GM traded up for to draft w/ the understanding that he was raw
and we don’t give up easily in guys we believe in b/c we are not a flimsy Dan Snyder led franchise.
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah maybe
hixon – too expensive for a #6
cruz – maybe jernigan is claiming his role?
Hagan – couldnt make the team last year
Giguere – practice squad, cant put him on the practice squad for another year
thomas – could never hack it in washington, but he was a second round pick
calhoun – not a large body of work, but beat out hagan last year
barden – is big, has done NOTHING but get hurt and drop passes
clayton – never saw the field when on the roster
reynaud – not really a reciever, more of a running back, sucks anyways, too expensive.
so take your pick.
some of those guys are locks to make the roster of 1/2 the teams in the league
we collect talent.
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
like who?
Barden’s the only one that makes an NFL roster. Thomas couldn’t stick with the Redskins for chrissake.
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Wasnt Thomas (or was it Clayton) a beast on ST's?
We could really use a gunner.
"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable"-Mark Twain
Thomas
had a blocked punt against his old squad
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
which is what i was alluding too...
the last guy should be a guy who can help in coverage
what role does Cruz have aside from preseason all star?
he has no role. Jernigan would take Hixon’s role or KR/ special teams guy. The rest are useless who would have no job if not for all the injuries (including Barden) last year.
Barden had a great game against Dallas that you must’ve missed. That alone makes him more proven, and better then all those other guys aside from Hixon…and like I said with Hixon, Jernigan makes him go away.
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I think Cruz and Jernigan
are similar players in that they are on the smaller side, quick, slot type.
Cruz vs Jernigan
all things equal Jernigan makes the squad because he was a draft pick. GMs do not like to cut draft picks.
Cruz does nothing on STs
Jernigan is a STs ace.
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Jernigan
is much more dynamic. We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if it wasn’t for that preseason game against the jet’s practice squad.
Cruz
was a one hitter wonder. If we sign Plax, Cruz won’t make the team.
Barden had a good game vs Dallas. I wouldn’t categorize 3 catches for 34 yards, one for 26 yards, as a GREAT game. Ham had a great game 10 catches with a long of 44 yards and a TD.
he was very good that game, so yea I'd change nothing.
there was another one called back cuz of a penalty that wasn’t his fault.
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More than the #s Barden was showing chemistry with Eli
On the play he got hurt, E saw him in a crowd and said oooh, jump ball, the big guy will go get it. And he almost did, cept he broke his ankle on the play.
Remember
when Hixon was a preseason all-star and we all became very exited about him? I think that was 3-4 years ago.
Hixon already played in the regular season before that preseason
they signed him in week 5 and he played very well the rest of the year.
Cruz played in the preseason only, and only against scrubs.
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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/hideki-irabu-found-dead-suicide-suspected
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jul 28, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
thats sad
Prayers for him and his family
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
RIP
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
To bad
Hate to hear these kinds of things.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 28, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Got one in the works for after FA haha
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too man
Lt’s go to happy hour
It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 28, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
first beer's on me
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice.
But it’s summer time. You get the beers, I’ll get us some of these
It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 28, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
football's back
we’re only allowed to drink coors, bud and miller now till feb….
While that may be true, I have to stick to my favorite
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes please.
It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 28, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
love me some car bombs
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Great way to start a night you'll never remember.
It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 28, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
been there haha
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I’m a sucker for the fruity drinks. Get me a strawberry daiquiri
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yesterday
At the local hotel pub around the corner…I had a Mango Mojito, an Island Trio, an Appletini, Jeremiah Weed Sweet Tea and Lemonade, and a Tequila Sunrise.
I’ve never seen so many different fruits in so many different glasses in my life.
Satisfying to say the least.
It takes great work and thinking to keep from doing work.
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 28, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm hittin up AC this weekend
Saturday might be a day I chill at a beach bar on the broadwalk and partake in one
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh AC...where dreams go to die.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 28, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Just got back from Ac
My dreams suffered a heart attack and now on life support.
Why is Tom Quinn still here?
hahaha
gonna avoid doing too much gambling….. fast foward to sunday…. 3rd trip to ATM… funnel cake as a meal yet again
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The freaks on the boardwalk offer pretty cheap entertainment
So you’ve got that going for you
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 28, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
already gonna have my share of freaks
20+ guys sharing 3 rooms for 2 nights…. gonna see stuff that can’t be unseen
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
that’s going to be a shite show
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Ohh I will
Thanks. Gonna be keeping track of BBV on my phone, gotta keep up with all these signings/trades
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha
2nd time someone decribed it like that, haha. I may be in another “state of mind” most of the time,
Beer… the cause of and solution to all of life’s problems
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm doing something similar in a couple weeks
going to foxwoods for the weekend with 15 guys for a bachelor party. i feel your pain/happiness.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Maybe its because it is newer, but I always prefered Mohegan over Foxwoods when I lived up there.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 28, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah i do too
but i put zero time into planning the party, so i can’t really complain. mohegan is way nicer. i’d lose money at either place regardless!
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
bachelor party is what it is
My future bro-in-law. It’s gonna be crazy
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 28, 2011 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
even better
best of luck, haha
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
I had mine there.
I recommend avoiding the strip clubs there…not worth it IMO
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 28, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope its not on the subject mine is..
we’ll just have to see.
Looking forward to yours tho
Smashmout
Burress - The Cure For The Common Killdrive.
Plax drives me nuts, but I’ll say this for him. He makes Killdrive look a lot better inside the 20. Between the 20’s the Giants are a juggernaut. But it’s as if Killdrive’s brain runs to the restroom every time we get in close.
EVERYONE IN THE STADIUM’S BRAINS: “They’re gonna run Jacobs up the middle.”
KILLDRIVE’S BRAIN: “Hey, I know…Jacobs up the middle!”
ANNOUNCER: “And the Giants lose a yard…”
ME: (shaking fist at sky) “KILLDRIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!”
11/1/2010
I hate to admit
but Killdrive and the Giants were much better in the red zone last season.
I like him
But it’s either Boss or Olsen. Olsen is just a (significantly) better Travis Beckum. Not a good blocker at all.
Texans shopping Amobie Okoye
interested?
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
at what price?
for Aaron Ross and we get a 5th
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
dunno, probably for a low pick...6th or so
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no, just a 6th
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
he wasn't very good and doesn't fit their scheme
a 5th or 6th might do it
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I'd do that
I just wouldn’t want to give up corner depth to shore up the depth at another position.
why doesn't he fit at 3tech?
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by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd take okoye for a 6th
in a heartbeat…. cheap solid DT depth. I’m guessing it wont be enough though…
they'll probably ask for more
but I can’t see okoye going for higher than a 4th. 5th or 6th seems more likely
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
really...for a 6th,why not?
he’s gotta battle Austin for rotational snaps.
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by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe not Ross but he's a decent expendable chip...as useless to us as Okoye is for them
for a 6th,no brainer,although he was what a 9th overall,probably expensive,cap-wise
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he's really not somehow
i just looked up his salary and he’s making less than 1M per year… lemme recheck that
hmmm... he had an escalator
so now he’s due 2.95M this season… but that might not apply since he’d be switching teams… tough to say without actually seeing the contract
the escalator (due to number of games started) triples his contract… if its not applied he makes under 1M, if it does apply its 2.95M. thats our cap hit… we wouldnt have to deal with his prorated bonus, as HOU payed it
he wouldn't leave the bench for us..so no triple salary happenin'
he started playin’ at age 20..was raw w/ Hou’s wack coaching..we’re the opposite.
I say do it.
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by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the "total number of games started"
was a thing over his first X years on his contract… idk, its all wild speculation.
my guess is that if we make the trade there’s def no escalator. if we dont trade its inconclusive
the other way to look at this
is if he’s due 3mil, the trade asking price will be low (6th or so)
if he’s only due 1mil the price goes up a bit (3rd, 4th?)
google is pretty awesome
i still dont know the answer to whether or not the escalator will apply. no way its been reported by generic sports writers yet. it’ll only get mentioned if a trade happens
Player-wise
Olson is way better. Killdrive won’t use him.
OK
Most of what has happened is pretty logical. Said Richie would start on PUP and he may well do that but he got cut first. Said it would take a UFA center and then some guts to cut O’Hara. Done. Kiwi and SS12 would get one year incentive laden contracts – one is in the bag. We all knew Coefield was gone and that Rocky and Brandon would be asked to re-negotiate. Webster is next on the contract renegotiation front.
What’s left?
Osi. That will drag out. Could easily end ugly. 2011 is his last year as a NYG – if that.
Plax – They are going thru a charade to show they are open minded. I’d be amazed if he came back to play for TC. (I’ve been wrong.)
Eli may renegotiate as a gesture of good faith for cap reasons.
AB will not get what he wants so it’ll be a one year deal and he will do this again 2012.
BJ will take a pay cut and then play lights out creating problems next year.
They are not staying pat at LB. Bulluck and Gerris are gone. Chase too probably.
Everyone ran off and screamed rumor monger last time I wrote this but I am predicting that Boley may be on the bubble – renegotiate or….. He is on the hook for $3.5 in 2011, $4 million next year and then $4.25. Lot of cash to a suddenly frugal org that is pressuring less productive players than Boley. Let’s face it – he has always been high on upside but not on productivity.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
what's Corey making?
Don’t think he is going anywhere – just that they will seek contract relief.
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i know he's not going anywhere
and he’s already restructured once
I Just think you leave the man alone….
go talk to Elish or something….
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he didnt "restructure" to save cap space
he renegotiated and got a contract extension. He’s now an 8Mil per season cap hit for the next 3 years (including this one). I could see them spreading that out over 4 or 5… but its unlikely
The going rate for CBs is high
I think CWeb is a top 8-10 CB and a great cover corner, especially man to man. Would not want to see him go anywhere.
Having said that, how many positions beside QB and Eli do the Giants pay top position dollar? They wouldn’t pay it for Coefield. Won’t for Osi. Prob won’t for AB. Nicks will be interesting to watch when he comes off his rookie contract.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Osi was at the time
Cofield isn’t a top DT.
AB is good but not elite and RB is what it is sooo…
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought they just reworked his deal
just to take less off the base and put more on the bonus.
I don’t think he made more money in that exchange….just re arranged to help the team w/ cap space.
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I'm not paying Webster that if I'm the Giants
Terrell Thomas should have made the pro bowl last year, and out performed Webster who was ordinary at best. Add in The Prince, and there’s our two starting corners next year, if not by the end of this year. Webster’s contract next year will be looked at as a bad contract that either needs to be redone with him making less, or moved via trade. Thomas and Amukamura are the starting corners for the foreseeable future, might as well get something of value for Webster after this season.
by ManningHam and Cheese on Jul 28, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
-23
TT is already talking Prince arrival as a demotion and talking about movign back to the slot.
TeamJPP
CWeb is NYG #1 CB
Ross is the odd man out
Nice problem
Safety for Ross?
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All this tells me is that the reports
of Plax being offered 2 years / $10M was nonsense put out there by Plax’s camp.
can't see how he's even close to FB shape
20-25 plays a game..after the first few inactives.
Maybe good for a last hurrah at the end of the season.
Plaxtalk=boring for me.
Smashmout
"I expected the rocky mountains to be rockier than this..."
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
haha it was a dumb and dumber reference
because im bored as shit
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
its almost 5pm and I woke up doing this shite!
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by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
riveting stuff
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
haha you must be really bored
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
yes i expected moar
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
truth
aren’t we supposed to be hearing about all the cuts now?
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
yeap
apparently there was supposed to be a massive info dump coming this afternoon…haven’t seen it….
though I shouldn’t complain, bush to fins, fat al to pats, kolb trade, we re-sign kiwi….
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
However, still too many unresolved questions that we want answered ASAP.
by Well-Rounded Cube on Jul 28, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah....also tomorrow supposed to be ridiculous and a half
I’m saddened that I’ll be away on a road trip….hopefully my phone has service lol
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I’m going to be on a plane for 3 hours tomorrow morning, most likely miss half of what’s done. God I hope the plane has ESPN (as much as I hate that station).
by Well-Rounded Cube on Jul 28, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know....hopefully they do, if not, at least you won't be bored when you get off
I <3 my smartphone, got Schefter and Garafolo’s tweets on full blast, and mobile browser set to rotoworld so Im good to go…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
when does Nnamdi decide...
he must have all the info by now. I think once he decides a lot of players will go quickly.
reportedly deciding between Jets and Texans
Texans offering more money….Jest…more opportunity.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
well yeah, thats been the story for about 2 days
i guess the 49rs were in it, not anymore… I guess he’s holding out to see how much he can get from both teams?
either way he makes a huge difference to both those teams.
If you play the Jets w/ him you pretty much throw to TE and slot only.
Sounds like the Pats
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by Shaunthegiant on Jul 28, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think you stumbled into good stuff w/ okoye,B
He was drafted at 19 yrs old and played for a team that I wouldn’t expect to develop a guy like him.
He was playin’ at Louisville when he was too young to drive.
For a 4th DT…shah!
Smashmout
indeed, i wouldn't mind if we made a play for him
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on his contract...if its similar to what we give Boss
maybe a 4th…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
*what we would've given boss
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We've agreed to terms with Da'Rel Scott....inked to a 4 yr deal
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 28, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
Just remember Coughlin
This isn’t a first date.
It doesn’t matter if you like the person sitting at the table. You need him to do a job for you. Can he do the job better than the other guys you have doing it right now?
We all work with a certain amount of people that aren’t our friends, but we all work with them to get the job done.
Bring him back.
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