NFL Free Agency: David Baas Of 49ers To Become Giants Center -- Report
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2011 10:50 AM EDT
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PrintWell, that did not take long. A day after telling Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Shawn Andrews that they would be set free, the New York Giants have reportedly reached an agreement with former San Francisco 49ers center Baas.
I don't know anything about Baas, but one report out of San Francisco indicates that the 49ers consider this a big loss.
The 49ers are believed to have pursued Baas heavily, but "it just didn't work out," the source said. After quarterback Alex Smith, Baas was the team's most important offensive free agent to re-sign. He started all 16 games last season in place of injured Eric Heitmann, and he played well.
A quick check of Twitter also found 49ers fans unhappy about losing Baas to the Giants.
Baas is a 6-foot-4, 319-pound six-year veteran. He spent his first five seasons at guard, but moved to center a season ago. In the 2010 season he started all 16 games for San Francisco at left guard. He was a second-round selection in the 2005 NFL draft.
Pro Football Focus (we always turn there for the numbers, don't we?) graded Baas at +3.4 during the 2010-2011 season.
-- Check Niners Nation for the 49ers perspective on the move
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Like the move but...
After quarterback Alex Smith, Baas was the team’s most important offensive free agent to re-sign.
After Alex Smith? Really?
Smith sucks but he's their starting QB believe it or not
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
if people are freaking out about it over there
it must be a good move on our part
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
why did you do that
I was in such a good football mood till…. WHY!!!!!!!!!
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AHHH NOT THIS GAME
My local newspaper’s top headline the next day was “Giants snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.” My mother scans the image to my grandfather who’d used this saying all his life to describe the Giants. 10 minutes after seeing the headline, he had a heart-attack and died.
that game killed my Grandpa.
omg
I don’t mean to be disrespectfull in anyway but the way you wrote that entire story is hilarious.. again no disrespect but LOL
by wrxsti28 on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
none taken
From a fan perspective it’s pretty hilarious. The way I see it, the Giants owe me two more Super Bowls..lol
And a Grandpa
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
they owe me a lifetime supply of beer and nachos with cheese
a few pairs of pants that i ruined, a few shirts, a couple broken things around the house, a lifetime supply of cough drops for my sore throats, etc. etc.
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
flagged...
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
hahah yeah dude....
i was just going to say something about that…..
his leg really should not be able to do that….wow.
In Prust we Trust
"It's just pain."
This team has balls.
by Master Ov Brutality on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
lol was thinking the same thing
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
his leg could do what seuberts couldnt
oops, thats not very nice..
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
Seems like about it...
…now just need to focus on our guys.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Jul 27, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
So we "gutted" our line
was the talk yesterday, and now we just upgraded both in skill and age at one position, and will do the same with Beatty at the LT. Gee, it’s almost like JR had a plan or something. Strong move yet understated, exactly how I like the Giants to operate.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
not sure if this is new news
brofield signing with the skins? grrrr
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Ed
Can you post O’Hara PFF grades for the past 2 or 3 seasons. I’m curious how Baas compares.
Can you do the same as the Giants continue to sign players that are set to replace departed Giants?
Solid
But don’t get carried away. Baas is not an All-Pro, just a solid, respected guard/center. Should replicate the contirbution of Seubert, but not exceed it.
Funny thing is
O’Hara was not highly thought of when he came to the Giants, then he went on to make three Pro Bowls.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
+100
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000
Hence why I am not worried about the O-Line. Its one thing to have good players. Its a whole other thing to have great coaches.
And
If he plays center for us, he will not be as good as OHara in his prime.
Like Ed said
when Shaun got here he was just a guy, then went on to a few pro bowls
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
on top of that Baas has never played alongside people of Diehl and Snee's caliber
I know Diehl is declining, but I think he can handle the LG spot pretty well, and we all know Snee is gold
do you know what Shaun O'hara was before he came to the Giants
a reserve, for the Browns. He was a nobody. Baas is better then O’Hara when each came to the Giants and its not even close. If they end up the same we’ll see, but lets not act like O’Hara was some big time player or prospect when he came here
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
O hara will probably be replacing this guy for the niners
The ol switcharoo
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Dont need him to exceed O'Hara
or even Seubert last year. He is younger and healthier. If he plays as well as Seubert did last year thats a huge win for us.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
That's all you can ask for
A solid player that plays under the radar, kind of like this signing perhaps?!
Those are the operative words
Younger AND healthier, works for me!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather Petrus win out at LG
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
Me too
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
He still might
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
The better player should play
If that is Petrus, Diehl is one expensive bench player
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
If Petrus is the better LG
Diehl can still “win” LT just like last year.
We don't play for the wild card around here kid
For those that are questioning our OL...two words:
Pat Flaherty
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
The key to our line now...
is Will. If he steps up and becomes the LT the Giants envisioned, we’ll have an above average, solid line. If not, we’re in trouble…
no matter what he'll be better than diehl was at LT last year
Eli had his long streak of no sacks when Beatty and Andrews split the LT snaps. Yeah Beatty had a couple holding calls, but in general he did pretty well… Diehl just isnt quick enough anymore to play on the edge
since day 1 of pop warner football
i have been taught a holding call is better than your qb getting hit… and thats final
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly
and Big Diehl wasn’t even quick enough to get those against most of the speedy guys
I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones. - Bill Parcells
Be excellent to each other... and party on, dudes. - Abraham Lincoln
OMG
Will Beatty stepped up last year, im telling you put all the skepticism away, he was damn good in his starts against good comp. especially in pass protection, he has dancer feet.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Just hope
he developed some more upper body strength in his down time, needs to step up!!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The key to the line is me?
we’re screwed
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
by Willgfass on Jul 27, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Solid Move
This catch cld be great,but as of now its solid ! Now after arguably the best ol coach in the league gets his hands on this Baas who knows how good he will become
true Giants fans have a Love hate relationship with the team
by Mr.Williams on Jul 27, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sounds like a good move
I dont know much about him but seems like he is solid and will be great competition.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
If there's one thing i'm nervous about with our OL
its what do we do if Kareem gets hurt.
we have guys that can backup pretty much any other spot (petrus, koets), but if one of the tackles goes down i’m not sure what we do… i’m guessing they’ll add 1 more body that can help out at tackle soon
Brewer is gonna be here, so I'd think he's a backup even if he's a rook
also whoever isn’t the LT (Beatty or Diehl) will be a backup RT as well.
We have 4 Ts on the roster, really 5 since Koets actually was drafted to play T. So I highly doubt we’re adding a T any time soon unless its an elite one (and there’s none of them out there).
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
well beatty and diehl will likely both start
although i guess if kareem gets hurt you can put petrus at LG and move diehl to RT…
I think Brewer would be an absolute last resort, he’s a project player who the giants would love to keep on the bench for 2 years.
Don't be so quick to look at scouting reports as gospel
Remember, Beatty was supposedly a player who needed work as well and he played as a rookie when McKenzie got hurt. Beatty struggled but he also had to face Julius Peppers.
We can put anyone at G
they still have Boothe, so I’d think if Mack gets hurt, you throw DIehl to RT and Boothe at LG.
Brewer is probably more ready then you think as well. The guy was an all big 10 selection and he was very good at Indiana. People said the same thing (project) about his former teammate Roger Saffold.
Tho during the combine, they said that Brewer was pretty much just as good as Saffold athletically. So I doubt the guy is just a waste of a roster spot while he learns.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm really just thinking of brewer like htey way they handled beatty
they really really didnt want to play him unless it was an emergency
Brewer
thats why we got him, the future K mack.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
I'm more nervous about...
… is we only have two players who can play LT and since Diehl likely starts at LG and had been hurt last year and may get hurt again, who is the backup at the all important LT position in that case. Booth can play RT in a pinch but with that big fat butt he has to drag around he can’t play LT. Koets never took a single snap at LT in his professional career in a game and I bet they moved him from backup LT to backup center for a good reason (good reason being he in unsuited to LT).
Phone Boothe
has played on the outside too.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Rotoworld approves
Giants agreed to terms with C David Baas, formerly of the 49ers.
It’s a major blow to the Niners, as retaining Baas was expected to be their No. 1 priority in free agency. Eric Heitmann’s career is in doubt due to a neck injury and Baas was the top center on the market. Meanwhile, the Giants get an upgrade on soon-to-be released Shaun O’Hara and still have Adam Koets for depth. It’s an underrated yet strong move for the G-Men.
I like this signing
I was getting real concerned when the Giants didn’t address the O-line in the draft and downright worried yesterday when they cut Richie and Shawn. Let’s pray Beatty is up to the task of taking over the LT position
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
the backwardness of doing the draft then months later doing FAS
made things look alot worse then they seemed
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
it means he aint commin back
ive been sayin it since the beginning! and i have been criticized here but i have firmly stood behind my belief that the giants should not resign him, sign plax, and come out next year with hakeem, mario, plaxico, victor, and hixon
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you been drinking?
Maybe you had some of Eli’s actual blood
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
the hell would they waste a spot on Victor Cruz for?
Steve Smith with one leg is more valuable to this team then him.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey now
dont let him make you bash Victor Cruz, i think Hixon could get the axe if Jernnigan takes over as a returner.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
im not gonna argue victor cruz
im just going to throw out a promise… that he is going to be on the giants roster this season… plain and simple
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
no one has to make me bash Victor Cruz
I do that on my own just fine and I wish he’d go away like Stephen Nicholas
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
ok thats your opinion, i dont see why he doesnt get a chance to earn his spot, alot of others i would get rid of before him.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
There's no spot for him on this team
Barden offers up much more upside, as does Jernigan.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like Cruz will end up being
Sinorice Moss redux. Preseason world beater
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
you dare mention Sinorice Moss??
did they even waste ink writting about his release?? has he beeen released?? where is he?
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
funnily enough...with the Eagles
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that is hilarious
I bet he does well and stays healthy with his punk ass.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Up side?
i think Jernnigan is the only one with certain upside. Cruz and Barden have to prove it, Barden would be ideal but to be honest Cruz may be the better football player and actuially useful on ST.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Jernigan has upside, yet doesn't even have a number yet
but Barden has to prove it? Oh.
And if Cruz had any purpose on STs, he would’ve made the team last year. Barden also was playing on STs last year, and very well too. Actually when Barden got hurt the STs got even worse.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Sir
Barden did not do well on ST at all, he never played ST in college and was not a good tackler, he plays too high but Cruz was actually in the mix on ST in preseason at least. The Barden thing on specials is a joke.
I meant Jenigan has certain upsides, he was a better receiver in tougher comp in college, not to mention he played on specials all his career, so yes i can see his “Upside”. Barden’s upside has to be proven to me because the stated upside he was supposed to bring which would be this dominant red zone threat has not been seen in his limited chances.
I see what ur saying, all im saying is it would be of no surprise to me that Jernnigan’s impact was felt immediately, and way more often than the other two.
all of this has to be “Proven” by all parties so you are correct.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
yea, he played on STs and was doing well.
I hope I wasn’t the only one to see that, it would be sad. This is 2010, not 09. He was playing well last year.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Really? on ST
I have all the games and all i ever seen him do was get washed, no one on ST was even worth mentioning besides JPP, Blackburn and maybe 1 other person.
Ramses Barden was not good on specials form what i can pull up but maybe you saw something i didnt. he was looking way better as a WR though right before he got hurt, ST’s though?? i missed that for sure and still cant find it.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
the one other person was Barden.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Also Cruz didnt exactly not make the team
cause they would have just cut him, instead they got him to agree to a bs injury because he wouldnt have gotten past waivers.
He was actually injured but he could have came back, he did not have to be on IR
They obvously are not willing to let him just go.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Just some guy sent to distract the gullible
Like moths to a light….smh
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
steve smith is not a playmaker
he is a glorified dump off guy and his precision in route running is in question now with that knee… lifetime of a football player is very short and i just do not think steve smith is ever going to be 2008 steve smith ever again…. i like the guy but idk man i just dont see him doing as well as he has done
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Steve Smith is not a playmaker?
I’m just gonna laugh my ass off and ignore that. Are you serious?
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
dead ass
he gets open, catches the ball, and goes down immediately…. ill name 20 guys that can do what he does if they got the opporunity to play in steve smiths role with eli throwin him the ball
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
name 20 guys that have caught 100 balls for the Giants
And go look at how the offense was in shambles when Smith left. Why ? No one made plays.
Steve Smith steps up and makes big plays. Its like some people don’t even watch the Giants.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
By far
He is our wes welker, plus he can go down field time to time.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Not nearly as 'shifty'
I’m hoping Jernigan turns into something similar to Welker.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
Shifty?
he is more shifty before he catches the ball, his route running is superior to welker but being shifty after the catch is all welker, his yac is superior to SS12 so they are very comparable.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
that's what I was getting at
Jernigan looks more similar to Welker in the way he moves with the ball. This of course is based on my extensive YouTube scouting and therefore highly accurate.
I don’t mean to incinuate that SS12 isn’t valuable. I’m surprised to see so many comments from people willing to see him go. He makes for a GREAT compliment to Nicks and Manningham. I’d love to see him back for the appropriate price/term.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
steve smith would not have had 100 catches with the old defensive rules...
he jsut wouldnt… if toomer was in his prime in todays league steve smith wouldnt even be a giants
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Keenan McCardell and Smith are basically clones under Coughlin. He did it, so would Smith.
/repeater.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Silly Rabbit
Only a “giants” fan would belittle 107 catches.
The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.
by Handsome Stranger on Jul 27, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
well I wouldn't go as far as saying
no one made plays, but yes the offense wasn’t the same without him.
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
they made plays, no doubt since they won games
but we had to pull teeth and gauge our eyes out before it happened.
Smith was consistent. The security blanket that helped everyone else do their jobs cuz he always did his.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
yup
a lot of people keep saying he’s just a dump off guy and just a 3rd down receiver but that’s simply not true. He’s not the greatest YAC guy so what? He still makes big plays in key situations.
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
SS12 has more value to us than other teams too
The dude is Eli’s 3rd down machine.
3rd down passing situation, everyone in the stadium knows Eli’s looking for SS12 and guess what, he converts.
I think Reese knows that with SS12’s health situation, his phone is not ringing off the hook. He wants to be back here, and I think he knows that he’ll ultimately get the most $$ here too.
OK
name 20 WRs you’d rather have. I’m curious on who the 20 would be.
THIS
The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.
by Handsome Stranger on Jul 27, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He broke our reciveing records
he shattered it actually, he makes plays all over the damn field……again, have you been drinking sir?
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Yea thats why you have to take stock in the fact that he SHATTTERED them
its not like he topped it by 1, oh yea remember how we looked without him??
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
do u think steve smith would have had those numbers in the league that was around 10 years ago?
HELL NO… the corners back then wouldnt even let a guy like steve smith off the line of scrimmage… its a different league now where a guy like steve smith can flourish because he can get open without being touched…. like i said above… as soon as he gets touched he goes down imemdiately
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Keenan McCardell says hi
so yea, Smith puts up those numbers in any era.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
ive read them
this is the first time im getting involved because based off the absolute silence from the giants regarding steve smith, it appears they may agree with you and i
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
they haven't re-signed any of their FAs
so dunno why he’s being singled out and why you’re taking anything from said silence.
From all reports, he’s pretty much a Giant already tho.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I havent heard the giants say anything about anybody actually.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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The corners back then would not have let a guy like
Randy moss
Desean Jackson
any of the saints receivers
or anybody off the line so whats your point???
rules were different, all your old school corners wouldnt last two seconds in todays game of coverage and i heard that straight from rod woodsons mouth…..and he included himself so whats your point?
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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The Blood of Eli
then its a good thing we dont have Steve Smith playing WR 10 years ago, and we have him playing WR right now. Who cares how he would of faired with the rules 10 years ago, he plays right now and is damn good
Exactly
i hate when people try to transcend eras in their minds and say well he wouldnt have done this back then!!! well dammit he wasnt alive back then so you are correct
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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we had Ike Hilliard 10 years ago
old reason he didn’t have 100 catches was cuz Kerry Collins is a bonehead and Brian Dawkins de-brained him for a few years.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Ike Hilliard...
Talk about a receiver that couldn’t get yards after the catch. A gust of wind knocked that guy down
What does that matter?
Do you think Michael Vick survives a third of a season in the 80s?
And the routes he runs prevent him from gaining any more yardage for the most part
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
SS12 routes
are precise route predetermined to get a crucial FD. Who cares is he doesn’t have lots of YAC? Keep those chains moving.
YUP
You can’t get 1st downs, I guarantee you ain’t winning.
The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.
by Handsome Stranger on Jul 27, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
irrelevant
It’s 2011. I’m more concerned with the rules of 2011, and Steve Smith did pretty well with them.
this is what it sounds like when the birds cry
they've been around for nearly 90 years
if they’re a joke some one else should’ve broke them and un joked them
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I know we can be thrown in the stocks of bbv and pied in the face but...
I agree with this view. Steve Smith’s greatest asset is his chemistry with Eli. For as effective as he’s been, he really doesn’t do anythings spectacular. It might be time to move in a different direction especially since his route running and chemistry with eli will be dimished after missing so much time and taking well over a year to fully recoverr.
his chemistry with Eli will probably never go away
and if he has to take a year off, so what. I actually think that’s the point of taking a look at bringing back Plaxico.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
His injury is going to take a while to heal. Chemistry between receivers and qbs DOES go away. It needs to be re-established and that takes time. With seriuls knee injuries, it takes well over a year to get back to 100 percent and that can affect his route running.
Smith has said he's fine to return this season, so there's that
If he should so happen to miss a year, fine. Also the chemistry stuff is not something that goes away, it just doesn’t. Not when you’ve developed it already like Eli and Smith have.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
well I’ll agreet o disagree. Like anything, it dimishes if you don’t do it repeatedly. This will be the first season that he and Eli haven’t been running routes during the entire offseason/minicamp/training camp.
Even the best hitters in baseball will look lost if they didn’t hit in the cage or swing the bat thh entire off season. I’m sure he’ll be cleared by a doctor to play this season, but he won’t be in the same shape he was and he wil be extremely rusty. His route running/fitness level/chemistry with eli will suffer.
hitting a baseball shouldn't be compared to any single task at all
throwing and catching is much, much easier. Hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine. I was just using it as an example. Anything in sports needs to be practiced repeatedly. Look at michael vick in his first year back. He was slow and sluggish because he didn’t have an off season of training
Now your argument I can understand.
SS12 was injured and, yeah, we dont know for sure if that will impact him or not. I personally don’t think it will since he was never really about straight line speed. But your point is still logical. Repetition and SS12’s meticulous route running created the chemistry he has with Eli. And if he’s out for a prolong amount of time, it may naturally take a bit to get it back.
What I vehemently disagree with is when “GIANTS” fans make ridiculous statements like he’s a dime a dozen. Given how consistently the guy does it, statements like that is just asinine. And shouldn’t we leave it to Eagles and Cowporks fans to belittle the dude whose the single season leading receiver in our team’s history?
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by Handsome Stranger on Jul 27, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Smith's greatest asset is his ability to run a crisp route, get himself open, and catch the football.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
which can all be affected by his serious injury.
He hasn’t been doing ANYTHING. Do you know how hard it is to get back to an elite level after recovering from a serious injury AND not even running for since it happened? It’s dubious at best.
I completely agree, that's why you either bring him back cheap and don't count on him to be a big part of the offense, or use the money toward someone that's not injured
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
Really?
his route running and chemistry with eli will be dimished after missing so much time and taking well over a year to fully recover.
Over a year? I think he was hurt after week 10 last season.
well the other way to look at that is he’s trying to come back from microfracture surgery in 10 months? Can you really expect him to be the same player 10 months after a serious knee surgery?
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
Welker and Owens were just fine
and they’re a lot older then Smith
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
welker's injury wasn't as serious
and he was doing hard core training only a month or so after surgery. SS 12 JUST started jogging.
Welker 's knee was destroyed
it was much more serious
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
acl and mcl, yea
he destroyed his knee.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
its actually the same thing.
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its 2011
people not 1984, modern medicine has made it so that recovery from those things are high now. most players come back from Knee surgery these days…..SS12’s game was not hell bent on speed, so i think even if he is sluggish, he will still be a great asset until he gets back to his normal self which im sure he will
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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well I'm no pro football player
But I did play college and I had ACL reconstruction and tore my MCL at the same time. I had the surgery a little over a year ago and am just now getting back to feeling totally normal.
I’ve never had microfracture surgery, but I know it’s an entirely different procedure that takes longer to heal. It has to do with cartilidge (sp?) rather than the ligament and from what i’ve read, it involves a longer recovery period. I’m actually not even sure if SS12 had microfracture surgery but I think that’s what a few people said.
I don't think they were microfracture but they were major surgeries, so you got me there
but that’s two out of how many?
I still think it’s a long shot
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
That's two very old players is what it is
this is 2011. Surgury today is not the same as it once was, I don’t get why people are always so up in arms over it.
Sure, Smith might not be as great as he was in 2009 or early 10 this season, but that’s not to say he wont’ be any good in 11.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just to sum up
I’d prefer to see him back. If Jerry Reese and the HFSS docs check him out and think he can play at a pretty high level, and they can sign him for a reasonable contract by Jerry’s standards then I love it.
If I’m applying common sense into the equation, I think it’s only natural to question how a player can bounce back in less than a year after microfracture surgery. I’m not ‘up in arms’ I just don’t think it’s crazy to ask the question.
Bottom line, I trust Jerry, and hope that Smith can come close to his pre-surgery production, b/c I thought he was a great receiver.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
Seriously though
SS12 is necessary for us, i hope we keep him, he makes the game easier for Dream and Ham
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
My feelings about Smith have been posted here many times
so I’m fine with him gone but I’m not ready to take Plax back.
you got all of that
from a square and a few dots
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
LMAO well dressed
hahahaha
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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hahaha
UNCLE MIKE!!!
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
It means he is about to sign on that dotted line
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by Larry Soprano on Jul 27, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+100
Smart man
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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off topic but michael strahan just sonned somebody on twitter
they asked him if carson palmer should honor his contract and he replied
contracts mean nothing, ask all players that got cut
what a great point i love when someone makes a great point
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
I'm a firm believer in that
Owners get to cut players. Players can do whatever they feel they need to do.
Yes exactly why Osi has a point
People come at the players when they are just doing what they HAVE to try to do.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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Osi deserves a raise...
I just hated the way he went about it with a law suit. NFL contracts are bunk the owners can dump a player any time but god forbid if a player wants to renegotiate his deal if they have out performed it.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Osi deserves a trade
Osi said if he played the next two years at a high level, Reese would rework his deal.
Guess what, the following season he injures the knee and doesn’t play a game. He comes back the next year and plays ok, certainly not elite. Look at that Thanksgiving game at Denver, they ran around him all game long. He could not get off an edge block for shit. Last year, he played at a high level.
That’s 1 year of playing at a high level. If he does it again this year then yeah, pay the man.
If he wants out, I say trade him for some picks. He’s worth someone’s 1st and 3rd or something like that. Spags would love to have him.
" He’s worth someone’s 1st and 3rd or something like that. Spags would love to have him"
this means we should keep him. if he is worth a 1st and a 3rd and Spags would love him, not to mention the worst part about him is his whining……..cause when the lights come on he goes out there and gets it done.
also if Reese brings up the year he played “ok” he will just say well i led the team in sacks still, and thats what u pay me for, he has a good case.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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of course we should keep Osi
the problem is he doesn’t appear to want to play for us without filling his pockets with duckets.
That means we should probably get rid of him. That is, unless he’s bluffing.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
totally bluffing
I personally think he is upset that he isnt loved like Tuck is, i think he feels like the love machine skipped him and went to Tuck, he doesnt get commercials or appear on tv like Tuck, they even chose Tuck to do the commercials with Stray…he feels left out and he knows it.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Slow down let's get past the BS and talk turkery before we decide what to do
If you guys remember Strahan was always bitching about his contract too and making threats and holding out. Bottom line is Osi has been unhappy with his contact since 07 at least. He is like the 45th highest paid DE in the league. Osi does not want to play another season and risk injury so he wants to negotiate his contract coming off a good season where he has leverage, nothing wrong with that.
Like I said the way he went about is kind of stupid but let’s wait for Jerry to talk with him. after all we don’t know if Kiwi’s injury could prevent him from having a long career and as mush as I like JPP he is still unproven in otherwords we still need Osi. If Osi only wants top 5 DE money than we can trade him
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn I was chillin in that other thread and didn't realize that this one was up
lol no wonder nobody else was saying anything…
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
Yea I was gonna say
is the official threadzzz now?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
i hate when that happens big blue lmao
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Damn!
Just got word that the Cowboys have already won the Super Bowl…again! I wish they would give someone else a chance to be the number 1 paper tigers in the league.
sigh...
get it right 42...
the Jets won their 3rd in a row
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
where can rex sign on the dotted line for his foot care product endorsements?
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I will cry if Kolb goes for a 2nd and DRC
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
rotoworld
CBS Sports’ Clark Judge reports that an Eagles-Cardinals trade involving Kevin Kolb is “not dead,” and the sides remain in negotiations.
Judge confirms that CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is the “centerpiece of discussions,” and the sides are discussing a second-round pick that would go to Philly being added to the trade. “The deal isn’t dead,” writes Judge. “Far from it.” Judge does concede that Kolb staying with the Eagles remains a “possibility.”
Related: Cardinals
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Why give up DRC
wasnt that the point of drafting peterson, so they can be paired together……just go get Orton, and you wouldnt have to give up DRC.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
If the Eagles get DRC and a 2nd for Kolb
They just molested the Cards, If I was the Cards I would want the 2nd rounder from the Eagles.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Andy Reid has been Victimizing the less fortunate teams
for the last 3 years, check what he did to the skins, now the cards and in the midst of all that he got Vick…..Andy is a freaking beast….now he doesnt do a damn thing with all those picks but he is well skilled at molesting a team.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
AZ would have to be a bunch of country bumpkins
to give that much up. Nobody else is competing with them for Kolb. Also, Orton is still out there and will cost a lot less. Philly has no leverage whatsoever.
This
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
AZ is making Al Davis look smart
with a deal like this
Not worth that at all
Its funny non one would dream of giving that up for Kyle Orton who is waaaaay better than Kolb but somehow his value is less. weird.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
upside...they're banking on upside
still, ridiculous.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
did they miss the first half of last season
where orton was on pace for over 5K yards…. how is that not upside?
ya got me
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
my comment was more aimed at AZ
than you… i know ur just looking for some sort of reason why AZ would possibly prefer Kolb
haha yup
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The Giants
They do work. Has any other team taken the season by storm like the Giants? It is like they had a plan or something…
by Livestrong77nyy on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
the Giants have a plan?
imagine that…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
quincy black is close to re-signing with the bucs
Quincy Black – LB – Buccaneers
Free agent LB Quincy Black and the Bucs appear close on a new contract.
Black’s agent is in talks with GM Mark Dominik about a multi-year deal and is optimistic it will get done in the next day or so. Black, a starter for the past two seasons, has averaged 5.3 tackles per game over that span.
well im not going to get anyone to agree with me
but Ive given my opinion on Steve Smith and I think if Plaxico signs, you will see Steve go somewhere else
IF PLAXICO comes back
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
the day...
Steve Smith starts playing for us in the year 2000, I say we get rid of him.
I truly believe that SS12 is furious. about all this Plaxico speculation. Hopefully Steve Smith is playing healthy ball with the Giants this season.
by Livestrong77nyy on Jul 27, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
considering all they've done this offseason already
with regards to getting younger, I can’t possibly see the Giants being shortsided enough to sign an old WR who’s been two years out of football and release one of the best WRs they’ve ever had cuz he might not return from injury.
Especially when all reports say that Smith is very receptive to a reasonable deal to stay here.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
smoke screen....
they are trying to make some of the players that want Plax back happy……“Hey, look guys we gave it the old college try.”
I would understand putting in a phone call
but this seems more than that..
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
yea an actual meeting with him, if true
seems there’s mutual interest.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
this plaxico talk is bs....
Its not gonna happen. They’ll sign smith to a very reasonable 1 year deal to prove he’s healthy and this conversation will be over.
I don't think its impossible
they could just re-sign Smith to a reasonable deal, then IR him. But all I know is the Giants are not dumb enough to just let Smith go.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
and i dont think smith wants to go anywhere else. Noone is gonna offer him 5 million for this season. He said he WANTS to sign a 1 year deal to up his value for FA next year. The giants offer of 1.5 mil will be in line or better than anyone else will offer, plus staying with his established time is his best shot at upping his value (knows the system, familiarity w/ eli, etc).
i think its inevitable, once they get bradshaw done.
also I've been reading that Brofield's agent says the Giants made a pretty good offer to keep him
so if they were trying to keep Cofield, you can probably set in stone that they’ll be keeping Smith.
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by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
True
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Link?
I want to see this
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/07/giants_didnt_let_barry_cofield.html
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I say we sign him
get his hopes up, then cut that ass right before game one, use him for preseason.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
If anyone can get Plaxico to straighten up, it's TC
TC has this ability to take morally questionable talent and provide structure and discipline to their game. The talk of getting rid of him is mind boggling to me. He can tap into talent that would falter on any other team. Do it up Tom.
you do realize
that Tom already did try…..
Two years in jail.....
Makes it a whole new ball game
yeah...
but I’m trying to be optimistic he can change….that Phillies hat he wore straight out of prison made me want to vomit
I hope he learns his lesson and changes too
but from a teams standpoint, is it worth letting him prove that at his age? He wont be part of the long term picture, it would be a pointless signing.
Just imagine.....
Having Plax as the fourth receiver on the field with Eli spread, his size alone would draw coverage creating serious mis-matches.
No way should he be the no. 1 receiver right away, or even a no. 2. He hasn’t played. but if no one else wants him and we can get him short and cheap, there’s no denying he’s a weapon simply by lining up on the field.
I dont think he is going to be cheap...
he will get offers
"he’s a weapon"
the State of New York sure thinks so as well
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
man
you just keep knocking ’em out of the park today huh?
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's just hope Plax learned his lessons
I would love to have Plax back but…. His attitude scares me sometimes, I mean how can your wife be lawyer and you not understand what will happen to you if you have an illegal gun. The guy has to dot all the I’s and cross the t’s otherwise he will screw up again.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He cant be called a weapon
it violates his probation……maybe he wants to resign with us so that he doesnt have to travel too far for his piss tests….honestly.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
"Two years in jail..... Makes it a whole new ball game"
my dirty mind can make that into something not football related
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
So speaking of Steve Smiths...
Wasn’t the one in Carolina supposed to be traded or something? Any news on him?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
no team wants him....
they dont think he would be able to handle the CBs and rules of the early 2000’s
*Early 2010s
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I know a few teams that want him
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
"the one in Carolina "
You say it like he is still not the better of the two, lol
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Don't forget Pat Flaherty
The Giants best coach is the O line coach. Give him some time to work with Baas. I will.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
Michael Lombardi thinks it's SF or NYJ for Asomugha
michaelombardi Michael Lombardi
Jets main competition for Asomuga right now are the 49ers, they are in it strong…will be interesting to see how it plays out…
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
SF?
are they going to have Asomugha play center?
Or QB?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
they already lost Spikes and now Baas
but I heard that they would want to get rid of Clements if they were to sign Nnamdi
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Jet's are going to have to break the bank fo Asomugha
They won’t be able to sign both recievers if they do that
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Supposedly
they already have a deal in place with Holmes
by ddhamaka814 on Jul 27, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do they even want Braylon, did i miss something
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Braylon is way overated
But he does give them a deep threat and he and Holmes are a nice duo.
by Late for Dinner on Jul 27, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmes and Me
would be a nice duo…..holmes makes the “Duo”
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
before this is all over...
Sanchez will be making the league minium haha
He sounds like he is down for a Pro Bono year for real.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
I personally thought it'd be the other way around
Edwards was Sanchez’s go to guy for most of the almost 2 years
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
If it really is between those two then
The Jets would clearly win those sweepstakes.
by Livestrong77nyy on Jul 27, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont get why the jets would pursue asomugha so hard..
In a purely economic sense the marginal benefit they get from having him is not worth the cost to acquire him (for the jets). A team like the texans would get soooo much more out of a player like asomugha. I’d worry more about offense and safety help, but w/e as long as nnamdi stays out of the nfc east.
Does this mean Bradshaw is leaving?
michaelombardi Michael Lombardi
Running back DeAngelo Williams will be finalized today—Carolina, Giants Broncos all in the mix—Panthers have a slight lead
I personally prefer him over AB.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
*"I personally prefer him over AB" was not part of the tweet
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
beat me to it lol
does that mean we actually made him an offer?
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I always beat you to it
it must have been all that practice doing this during the whole Carmelo Anthony drama over at Netsdaily lol
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 27, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
rotoworld
Free agent DeAngelo Williams is expected to choose between the Panthers, Broncos, and Giants on Wednesday
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
hope he stays home or goes to the horsies.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
fa sho
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Star player when healthy...
As opposing fan, much more comfortable with Giants keeping Bradshaw over Williams.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/ - Eagles
http://bloggingthebeast.com/ - NFC East
This makes me sad
not even speculation, but still
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
they wanna corner the markt on SS's
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Apologies for my laziness
but link pls?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
but
what about Bill Cowher
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
we decided the scowl was much more effective than the chin
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
New tweet
TheBlueScreen Ralph Vacchiano
It also appears the #nyg are making it official. Tom Coughlin is getting his contract extension.
by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
David Carr to be released
bring him back for shits n giggles?
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
BREAKING: Giants to release Rocky Bernard
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Sort of expected
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Kevin Boss signed
Rockey Bernard released
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
Nah you can keep it
much respect for the taser
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Ha ! Hell yeah, much respect for the taser
I had to change it up though man . . . kinda stings losing brofield
per MG
“Having enough trouble with real reports! We don’t need fake ones! RT @XAMSports: Kevin Boss has NOT agreed to terms with any team yet #nyg”
yup
kevin boss tweeted it himself that it wasnt true… bob papa should just stick to broadcasting and let schefter give me my new information
by The Blood of Eli on Jul 27, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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