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Giants News: Shawn Andrews Going, Could Plaxico Burress Be Coming?

You didn't think we were done with New York Giants news for the day now, did you? Just because I took a little dinner break to visit with my father-in law doesn't mean the Giants news took a break, and there is some big news.

The biggest news? The Giants actually are discussing the possibility of bringing back Plaxico Burress, with coach Tom Coughlin reportedly being willing to talk with the former star wide receiver who is now a free agent after being released from prison.

Personally, I wonder if all of that is just PR by the Giants so that when he ultimately signs elsewhere the Giants can cay they opened the door for him, but he chose to move on. According to Mike Garafolo of the Star-Ledger, Burress has plenty of suitors. Adam Schefter of ESPN insists, though, that the Burress to the Giants speculation is serious, tweeting "Burress and the Giants have been talking for a good portion of today."

Also, the Giants have tossed another offensive lineman onto the free-agent scrap heap, with Shawn Andrews joining Rich Seubert and Shaun O'Hara.

This one had been speculated on for some time as Andrews was to be paid $7.5 million this season, with the Giants already over the $120 million salary cap. According to Ralph Vacchiano of the Daily News, Andrews and the Giants could not reach agreement on a re-structured deal, and Andrews will be set free.

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Like touch football

everybody goes out for a pass – lol

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Jul 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

and get rid of the ball fast. . .

cuz the OL is not very deep.

at least, as of tonight.

;-)

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe there is a 10 mississippi rule in the new CBA

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Jul 26, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

These moves are the ultimate vote of confidence in Will Beatty.

by DoctorK16 on Jul 26, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

OL will look different. Boothe is now back up to Koetes at Center. Who woulda thunk it?

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Jul 26, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That isn't a given

Garafolo suggests Giants might look at guys like Chris Spencer or Olin Kreutz

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they make a play at the Chargers backup C

polish(?) name, hard to spell

I think it would be madness to rely on a guy that’s started 5-6 games and is coming of knee surgery.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Jul 27, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

First Herzlich, then Plaxico?

Canyon of Heroes, neow.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Rebuilding year?

Nah… I don’t think its that bad and I saw this coming. What’s ou cap space looking like now?does that put us at around 2 mil over now?

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To forgive is divine.
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by Big Blue in tx on Jul 26, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

With Andrews gone, we're definitely under

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

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by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think we're around 6.5 mill under now.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt it

he will be on the PUP list at the very least

by mclaren_is_the_best on Jul 27, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now under the cap.

Now please sign some friggin’ OL please.

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

not till Friday when FA officially begins.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeap

that was sort of a blind throw away so that espn and the other major media markets stop buggering us about getting OL

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hear ya

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about

rookies? Thinking that the contracts of at least the top 3 picks are going to weigh on the cap at least a bit?

by Oppenheimer919 on Jul 26, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No issues whatsoever if Burress comes back....

he’s at the stage of his career where he HAS TO behave and play the good soldier. Eli wants him back and he’d make it easier for us to let Steve Smith come back carefully. Nicks, Plaxico, and Manningham as our top 3 WR’s would give us the hands down best 1-3 WR’s in the NFL. Then you add Smith in when he comes back and you’re looking at one of the most lethal WR corps the NFL has ever seen. Bring back AB, get some vet help for the OL, and our offense will be ranked in the top 5 without question.

by sexyscottish on Jul 26, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

steve aint commin back

if plaxico signs… thats my gut feeling

by The Blood of Eli on Jul 26, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith may start PUP

If that’s the case, then Plax could get a shot at third WR and compete for the job with Barden, Jernigan and the rest.

As much as I argued against getting Plax back a couple of months ago, IF he’s willing to take a reasonable, incentive laden deal without guarantees, and IF Smith is out of the picture to start the season and contribute the way he’s been able to do in the past. THEN I would at least talk to Plax.

That’s my guess about what’s going on.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most reports I've read

said Smith and the Giants have pretty much agreed to a one year deal already

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by Willgfass on Jul 26, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

fhew!

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

das wassup

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by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah!

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They signed Boothe for 2 years...

Some help

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by Big Blue in tx on Jul 26, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

There is more oL to come

Like BBI says, sign some OL please!!!

They are counting on Beatty at LT, Snee at RG and Kareem at RT. IMO Diehl at LG as well unless there is a lot of faith in Petrus.

Center remains an issue. Some OL FA action may be yet to come. Hope so.

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Jul 26, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I have faith in Petrus

Of course, he has to show a little something, but he was a beast in college and strong as hell. It’s all mental from that point on and hopefully after a year in the system, he gets it. I loved the pick when they drafted him and I’d like to see him take the bull by the horns. Somebody has to because we’re in worse shape if he doesn’t.

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by T_Hutch on Jul 27, 2011 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

center

who the hell is going to play center?

by bobby53 on Jul 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

either Petrus, Koets

or someone we will sign in the next week.

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Koets most likely, if we don't pick up one in FA

Remember they extended Koets 2 years just before he got hurt, when he was starting in place of OHara.

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by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember

Just cuz we cut players doesn’t mean they can’t be resigned at some point next week for a lesser deal.

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IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

everyone needs to RELAX about the OL

first off, its really not so bad. currently we have

Beatty-Diehl-Petrus/Koets-Snee-McKenzie

which really isnt SO different from last year. And also, lets just list a few of the MANY names of guys out there the giants could still sign. Its not our OL right now that matters, its the line we put together by the start of the season.

Tackles:
gaither, colon, light, free, clabo, harris, locklear, keith, walker, sims
Guards and Centers:
nicks, dahl, mathis, blalock, kosier, brisiel, cook, incognito, sendlein

i realize many will resign with their own teams, but this is by no means a complete list and ALL of these guys are better than O’Hara and Suebert would be this year. Andrews might be in the middle of this pack, but his health concerns are obvious and the cap hit is huge.

If we signed 1 of these guys (sendlein?) and then 1 lower tier guy we’d be perfectly fine. Probably better than last year.

so CALM DOWN.

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you

I’m happy to see the Giants recognize that its time to turn the page and go in a different direction. There’s no time to get cute. The Giants need to go after it this year.

by GhostDini on Jul 26, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...

that rant was largely aimed at the twitter community and any espn “expert”

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the problem is we're already down andrews, o'hara, seubert

which (according to espn numbers) should bring us down to about $117 million (factor in Bernard restructuring, signing UDFAs and Rookies, and Boothe).

That gives us about 6 mill, and we have yet to address SS12, Bradshaw, Boss, etc…

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

restructure Eli?

Think he would go for it?

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably not

but couldn’t hurt to ask

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is, after all, where the money is

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Other big QBs have done it. Eli isn’t beyond restructuring his deal.

by GhostDini on Jul 26, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would say no

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by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might even volunteer

Others have done it at the QB position, and it would not be out of character for him to bring it up and have his agent see what could be worked out.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only problem is he's set to make way more the next 2 years

idk how they restructure it that it isnt just a huge paycut for him. they also have no leverage on him. The leverage the giants had on andrews was that they’d cut him if he didnt restructure… u cant really pull that on eli

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

that strategy worked on bernard

cuz he might not get another job (where he’s payed enough to entice him to move his house/family)… so he just had to live w/ it.

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair point

But there could be ways to mess with the structure so it might not all count to cap.

Either that or maybe there’s an extension possibility to explore.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think it'd have to be an extension

because he’s set to make 8.5 this year, 10.75 next and 13!!!! the year after.

they’ve gotta do something about that.

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

our 2 craziest contracts are Eli and Webster

Eli is due 10 this year i believe and Webster is due 8. They need to restructure webster, they can’t give him 8 this year.

other big contracts are canty, boley and rolle, but i dont think there’s anything to be done there.

jacobs has been well documented.

SS12 will be a year and relatively cheap since he’s an injury concern. Boss isn’t that good of a player, so he’ll either be cheap or we’ll get someone else just as good.

Bradshaw is really the big issue here. I hope it works out, but if you have a good OL and Jacobs, you really dont NEED bradshaw if you can get another pretty good change of pace back. I love bradshaw’s fight and pass blocking, but as a pure runner, its not Bradshaw or bust. I think Reese will get this figured out.

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little bit more under the cap actually.

Seubert (2.25 Mil) and OHara (3.45Mil) free up 5.7 Mil and Andrews frees up 7.5 Mil. That’s 13.2 Mil total. We were correctly reported to be 6.1 Mil over the cap. So that means we dropped down to 7.2 Mil under the cap with these 3 releases.

But, since it’s been reported we agreed to ink phone Boothe at 2.5 Mil per for 2 years, I guess that puts us at roughly 4.7 Mil under the cap.

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by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

prorated signing bonuses

For example, OHara only frees up 1.625 mill because we have to dole out money for his signing bonus that counts against the cap. So it’s actually a little less

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK. i c

When I saw the numbers, I thought I was looking at their base salaries (minus pro-rated bonuses).

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep in mind that 3 mil exemption too

so 4.7 under is really 7.7 to spend.

also you didnt calculate in the restructuring of bernard.

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't. Only the ones that have been confirmed.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard we were going after Chris Spencer or Olin Kreutz

why go after kreutz…he’s like a billion years old

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Something tells me we're not done with O'Hara

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by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me 2

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by wilddre22 on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

age doesn't matter Jimmy

what matters if how healthy the player is

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there -__-

but if we’re throwing cash around, i’d prefer someone who’d be around longer than a couple years

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren’t age and health kinda.. you know… related?

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by JimmyK on Jul 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you're in your 70s and wear a diaper, sure

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or when you’re 34 and have been playing a brutal game for 11 years. Potato potahto.

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by JimmyK on Jul 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yet, have rarely been injured

and numerous players have played at his age and at an elite level, usually since they’re still healthy after not getting hurt for those 11 years

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, some guys beat the odds and stay healthy. More often, they go the route of Shaun O’Hara and Rich Seubert. Lol, your team cut 3 banged-up aging offensive lineman in one day, and you’re still arguing with me on this?

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by JimmyK on Jul 26, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were all injured

if they were healthy (i.e Dave Diehl and Kareem McKenzie) and they cut them, you’d have a point.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, you’re awesome, Ror. Love your willingness to stand by a losing argument to the bitter end.

An older player or two here or there… not a big deal. But the Giants let their entire OL all get old simultaneously and risked decline/health issues, and it’s burning them as we speak… bigtime. I saw it coming, called it, and I was right. Period. Now they have:

- No center.
- A highly questionable LT
- No depth
- A LG that started to show some serious wear and tear last year.

Meanwhile, the RG and RT, who I actually think may actually currently be the best RG/RT tandem in the NFL, are both getting up there too.

Maybe Jerry Reese has an ace up his sleeve – I don’t know. More power to him if he pulls off some sort of miracle. But that OL, as currently constructed, is a disaster waiting to happen.

And you know it.

Sorry to everyone else here, by the way. Didn’t mean to come over and talk trash about your OL, but my name was brought up, so.. you know.

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by JimmyK on Jul 26, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oline as currently constructed.

And there is the most important phrase of your rant. Come back when we know who will be starting at Oline, and who will provide said “lack of depth.”

Just get it done already...

by tommy d. on Jul 26, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Eagles had questions on their o line the past couple of seasons too

At Center and Right Tackle … who would have thought that Winston Justice would actually be better than halfway decent , as well as Cole. But like tommy says … there’s still a lot of work to be had. And you want to talk about old vs healthy, just take a look at your first round pick

by KumaBlue42 on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL at thinking your winning, when you make no sense

but…an Eggs fan will be that, I guess.

Seubert had a freak injury. So did O’Hara. Could’ve happened if they were 43, 34 or 12. Doesn’t matter, freak injuries are that. Age doesn’t matter, I’m still sorry you’re beating that drum but I laugh every time its brought up.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta be honest , id go to war with this ASAP

Beatty-Diehl- Koats- Snee-Mackenzie. add a FA couple the kids we drafted the past 2 yrs and im good.

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by Troy O on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck.

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by JimmyK on Jul 27, 2011 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its basically what we went to war with last yr

when the Giants racked up truck loads for rushing yds. and never aloud a sack of their QB.

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by Troy O on Jul 27, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes jimmy dawk

They all grew old together. But to say we let them? Like, they were incredibly bad and we let them hang around and collect pensions.

 well as you know they were far from it, and that continuity that you sneer about now was one of the main reasons we won the big one 4 years ago, and the reason why we’ve had a top 10 offensive attack for the past half decade. Even on a so called “down” year we were tied for fewest sacks allowed, and amassed over 2000 rushing yards. Thats called aging together gracefully if you ask me. Maybe we should model the revolving door, patchwork o-line theory of mr.reid and company.

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by wilddre22 on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey Hey Hey, we didn't cut them. We just let them go.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Plaxico

Im sure someone just asked “Should we sign Plax…no..ok…next free agent?”

That is the speculation being reported

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I just cannot believe the giants would sign brad smith or plaxico

those are “luxury” buys… doesnt seem to fit the teams general philosophy

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Improving special teams is a necessity, not a luxury

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he would only help returns...

and do you really believe that returns are purely and only effected by the guy returning and not the ppl blocking? you think if you put in smith all the sudden he has those same numbers he had on the jets on the giants?

keep in mind, the jets had the best special teams in the league before brad smith. remember leon washington? maybe they are products of the system.

and how does any of that help the coverage teams and our punting? its not worth the money.

plus we drafted jernigan and darell scott for these types of roles

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

too true

Lets hope the 2011 draft class can help make the SPs into something respectable. Hixon back too will help, as a gunner and returner but Brad would be intresting too

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a hunch hixon will get cut as well...

not based on much other than injury question mark and a logjam at WR. someones gotta go right? and it wont be the recent draftees

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I do too

but he will be in camp for a while to try and earn a spot

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Not just injury question mark, but also his 1.7 Mil salary.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may be right. But I thought he was tendered at 1.7 Mil before the lockout.

But then again those old tenders mean nothing cuz of the new cba. Which raises the question… is he under contract or what? How the heck does that work? not gonna argue with your figures since I dont know.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Guess I only remembered the tender.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, now I remember that Ed post.

There were like 15 tenders in there, so I guess that’s why I thought Hixon was also a tender. Thx.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it doesn't really mean anything anyway

he could be let go. However I think he is going stay this season

by KumaBlue42 on Jul 26, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith helps way more then returns

the guy does everything on STs except kick.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think probably speculation on Plaxico

interest in Brad Smith shows the level of pissed off that we were at ST.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random Note

Paul Pozluszny to sign with the Jaguars according to Jay Glazer

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

good.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Sintim is going to be a Pro Bowler, we don't need LBZ

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by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I am firmly in the LB camp

the sheer amount of bodies we have back there along with more pressing needs at OL makes me think that its more and more likely that we don’t really pick up anyone.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuz Pozluszy was any better then what we had here.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/07/22/making-the-grade-middle-inside-linebackers-2008-2010/

Even if you don’t care for PFF, can you honestly give me one argument for Goff over Posluzny?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh oh

you asked for it now …be prepped for the BS

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolz

the guys stats are flawed, the line in front of him is a sieve.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're a homer

You refuse to believe that anyone from outside the organization is better than what we have now.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I refuse to believe that the random players of the NFL aren't better then what we have, yes

if he was actually better, then yea no doubt get him. This was Stephen Tulloch, I wouldn’t doubt he’s an upgrade.

Poz? Hell no.

Who’s the homer here? The one that knows for a fact that two players who are good run stoppers that are below average against the pass are no different, or the one that believes everything he hears about his team’s LBeezer flaws that any old LB will be an upgrade?

You decide, I could care less.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think people have just made up the linebacker's woes on this team?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the most part, yea.

and maybe I should put this in the italics thingy, but I “never said the LBs couldn’t use an upgrade”. They could get 3 new LBs for all I care.

But I’d rather get a true upgrade instead of different names across the back.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

then stop saying that goff is acutally a good LB

he is just there..can he stop a RB that comes at him.fine

for god sakes I can do that. that moron cant play the passing down for sh*t and this is something you are actually proud of. An organization that produced the Big Blue Wrecking Crew.

If you care less. Be Quiet Believe me Im being as nice as I can be

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pos is the same thing

the guy is horrible against the pass. Just cuz he doesn’t play for the Giants doesn’t mean he’s better then Goff. Good 4-3 Lbaneezers in the NFL are far and few between, most teams are just like the Giants and probably even worse.

I could cares less how nice you’re being too.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know he's "horrible against the pass"?

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you cared to look at the PFF stats, you'd see just that

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you watch

any Bills games? I mean actually watch a whole game? He’s not good against the pass.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is not the same thing

Goff is a loser probably represents you well

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

adorable.

and yea, if Goff is a loser I’d be OK being that. I’m sure the only wrong thing the dude’s ever done is play for the Giants.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

what else is goff gonna do

if he gets cut…you really think anyone else is gonna give him a chance? really?

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

a team signed Bryan Kehl and he played excellent for them

so yea…I do.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was picked up

by his old defensive coordinator….he plays the WLB in a 4-3

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for him

changes nothing

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

You honestly think that Goff is in the bottom, lets say third, of middle linebackers in the NFL?

by Oppenheimer919 on Jul 26, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind sorry

I missed this part, where you said
“for god sakes I can do that”

please disregard my previous inquiry

by Oppenheimer919 on Jul 26, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No need for that man. Keep ur cool.

Goff is a loser? How does that statement advance your argument?

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

just getting pissed

in our lack of addressing the LB position

besides Rosarsch said he didnt mind, so…

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goff was a lot better than you're giving him credit for.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Big Blue Wrecking Crew

You do realize
A) It’s not the 1980’s anymore
B) THe Giants back than ran a 3-4 (LB’s are emphasis)
C) The Giants now run a 4-3 (Dline is emphasis)

I mean we used to run a 3 yards and a cloud of dust groundpounding offense. We had Little Joe, O.J. Anderson, and Rodney Hampton. We don’t have any RB’s as good as them but our offense puts up 6,000 yards a season because times change.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take

Big boy over rodney anyday of the week.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-

by wilddre22 on Jul 27, 2011 1:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

sorry if the grass is greener approach doesn't appeal

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

wouldn't have minded it

but not too upset either way

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jags making moves

they are also heavily involved in acquiring Eric Weddle’s services

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

that could be a strong up the middle defense

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course they are!!!

Aren’t they like 900 Million under the cap?

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I have never been anti-bringing-Plax-back. But you guys are talking about Smith being out if Plax is in… the only way I’d make that deal is if Steve Smith’s leg fell all the way off.

And he couldnt learn to run on his hands.

by Oppenheimer919 on Jul 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

if only canty was next

by tigafur on Jul 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

With Cofield basically gone, Canty isn't going anywhere

especially considering the fact that he’s pretty good.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're mistaken on that.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

La Conforna just said he thinks kolb wont get traded

market has softened and cards might go for orton. while thats obviously the better move for them…. since la conforna said it i’m going to assume its 100% inaccurate

by Matt dubs on Jul 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Andrews will be back

After he realizes he isn’t going to get what he wants on the open market. I’m sure the Giants offer was competitive for what he’s really worth, tons of FA OL on the market this year, probably part of the reason we’re cutting so many.

by TNYFBG on Jul 26, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I agree. I think he legitimately liked it here, and will back after he doesn’t get much more than what the Giants were offering.

by Split316 on Jul 26, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little off topic, but...

Looking more and more like Nnamdi is going to sign with the Jets. As obnoxious as Jets fans would be having those 2 shutdown corners, I want him as far away from the Iggles and Cowboys as possible.

by Split316 on Jul 26, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Who really cares what the Jets do?

They aren’t in our division or league

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

TRUE, but they might be our opponent in the super bowl.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, they choke every year in the playoffs before the super bowl

as per tradition

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, they already won it

i read it somewhere

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

when rex ryan wins the super bowl

think of all the foot care products he gets to endorse!

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hillarious how Rex started yapping about winning it all the same damn day the lockout was lifted.

The football team in my school, they were tough! After they sacked the quarterback they went after his family.

by Handsome Stranger on Jul 26, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least the Jets dont do it in the regular season

Or did you just forget the panthers in 09 and the glorious eagles game

by michael28102 on Jul 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I didn't

It’s just funny that Rex Ryan has to open his mouth every year and guarantee a super bowl win . . . and the Jets do it in the regular season too, speaking of 09… remember the glorious falcons game? . . . . yeah

by KumaBlue42 on Jul 26, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

we do have to play them this year.

"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable"-Mark Twain

by griffter10 on Jul 26, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

many reports say Texans

they have the money that he would be looking for. he knows he’s the best free agent available and wants to get paid like it. he also is 30 now, and this will be his last shot at a big contract. if the Jets were to sign him, they’d be relegating somewhere around $28-$30 million for 2 corners. who else could you pay? you’d have to cut a third of the team. they have bigger issues at the moment (Holmes). Rex would salivate about Nnamdi but it just doesn’t make sense

by NJsandman on Jul 26, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

there is no way he plays for the Jets

by rcnt123 on Jul 26, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

but supposedly Texans would put him on left sideline

And, at least according to Warren Sapp, he would really want to stay on the right sideline.

FWIW, Sapp is thinking Cowgurls, with Texans in the mix.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jul 26, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how the cowboys or Jets could afford Aso. Both are over the cap, just like us, but they haven’t had to cut every questionable player on the roster like us.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Jul 27, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

ohh yea

cut reynaud too, in case we didnt get there already

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

new report from a Jet forum

Santonio Holmes will be locked up long term. details will come friday it says. i’m not sure if it’s believable or not.

http://forums.newyorkjets.com/showthread.php?t=9595

by NJsandman on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

wish they did

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got Carmelo?

I don’t because they got the better player. Dwill!!

by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 26, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

they didn't, really

but the Knicks destroyed their franchise

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup..

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jul 26, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

too bad

I guess we’ll have to live with landing Dwight Howard instead

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it happens

idk what’s gonna happen. just something ridiculous…

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping for a full lockout

That’s the only way we can get D-will, Dwight AND Brook. That is dominance.

by Frigidevil on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

And plus, if the NBA determines the draft order the way the NHL did after the lockout, the Nets would also get probably 5 or 6th best odds for the first overall pick (it would go by wins in past 3 years, first overall picks in last 3, playoff appearences in last 3). But, obviously, the risk is that Deron could leave as a FA.

by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even think that's gonna be that big a risk

Deron’s not gonna throw away that player option if the new CBA has a stricter salary cap. Hell I could even see him taking less to stay and win if we can get Dwight. The only thing he’s said we need to improve is the players.

by Frigidevil on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

get season tix now while they’re cheap

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Bulls fan

but rep Brooklyn. I’m thinking of getting season tix.

by GhostDini on Jul 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Join the bandwagon

I’m sure there are gonna be a ton of Brooklynites that become fans.

by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 26, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nets-Bulls could easily be a playoff series in 2013

I just can’t get over how fast Rose is. If you haven’t seen him in person yet, do it.

by Frigidevil on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

All i remember from the st. patrick's day game...

C’mon let’s get something out of this possession…damn you gotta pull down that reb-HOW IS ROSE ALREADY AT THE LINE!?

by Frigidevil on Jul 27, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh haha

didn’t realize it was from incarceratedbob. i’ve heard about him before

by NJsandman on Jul 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol the only reason why this dude is relevant is because of

Craig Carton and Boomer.

Those are the only two people who believe his reports. dumb@sses lol, and they’re Jet fans.

by GoffAttack on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

cc brown?

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

per Schefter

Dolphins interested in Marion Barber; Giants working to sign Ahmad Bradshaw; Denver has interest in Willis McGahee.

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't see the Giants working on that just yet

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 26, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

its on rotoworld too

who knows? Schefter is usually on his shit though, so we’ll see

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shefter is from LI..

anyone know if he’s a Jets or Giants fan? Was always curious.

by Split316 on Jul 26, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN only has 1 Giants fan that I know of

and he’s that black dude who fills in for Jay Crawford on 1st take.

by GoffAttack on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know for sure

but I always thought he was..if you look at his picks during the season he usually takes the Giants in every game..

by ddhamaka814 on Jul 26, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He worked the Denver beat for like a decade

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to trust Adam's resources

One of the main reasons I follow him on twitter. Do we have any links? I’ll just pop over to rotoworld and see what’s going on over there.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or not NCMI computers block gaming websites

Damn you rotoworld

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

As per Rotoworld
The Giants are “working to sign” free agent Ahmad Bradshaw, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
DeAngelo Williams has reportedly said that he’d be interested in the Giants if Bradshaw walks. This should confirm that retaining Bradshaw is the Giants’ preference. Still, as the second-best running back on the market, he will be wise to take his time and let the dominoes fall. For now, we’re betting on Bradshaw re-signing with the G-Men.

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I don't see Steve Smith on there

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

BBI

can you give us some details from Rotoworld?

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I’d be happy with the Giants and anything NFC East

Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES

by tommy d. on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

Friday will likely be a huge day but I expect more players to sign tomorrow and Thursday hopefully keeping this feeding frenzy alive.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive been able to follow some of what Adam Schefter is posting on twitter

and sure anything you can scoop up ill read so go ahead and have at it.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure thing

I’ve been throwing out the more interesting tidbits, but all seems quiet for now

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nfl network sez

desean jackson holding out? more power to ya

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

not makin fun of it

im just saying, if he wants to hold out, no one over here is holding their breath waiting for him

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I know.

I’m just saying it’s a smart thing for him to do. Definitely less gratuitous than what Osi is doing.

by GoffAttack on Jul 26, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and im sure the name has nothing to do with it right?

lol

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

yeah, only a little bit though lol.

by GoffAttack on Jul 26, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

its times like that

which make me slightly jealous that im probably the only one here who hasnt caught onto the art of making sarcasm font :/ lol

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

please no....

I live in the TB area and they couldnt wait for him to go… He was good enough to start but not an impact player. Smart guy but no animal instincts. We have enough of those guys.

by Skii31 on Jul 27, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

tampas not bringing back ruud

or so says the wonderful world of twitter

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I see us locking up Boss, Bradshaw, Smith, and Kiwi on Friday

We will be players in the veteran OL/LB markets absolutely, but I i prefer to let some of these younger guys get a shot. Regardless of what I think, after these 3 OL cuts today the Giants will be adding an infusion of youth and hopefully talent at that position. Everyone seems to be freaking out about the Giants Oline, especially our friend from BGN Jimmy. Oh boy Jimmy sure you may have been right but the Giants are already addressing the issue as we speak, and I for one am not too worried about that Oline. I just pray we can get some injury luck this year because when ALL of the Giants talent is on the field they are very tough to beat.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Jimmy is not right.

He speculated on us having an offensive line that would fall apart. Have we seen any evidence of that on the field? Not yet. If we see piss-poor Oline play this year, then he will be right. Right now, all he is is a self promoter who is jumping the gun.

Just get it done already...

by tommy d. on Jul 26, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is entitled to his opinion

no matter how little you agree with it.

by brisulph on Jul 26, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both have valid points IMO (point being IMO)

We’re not exactly better off than what we were yesterday…but who says FA is over, and who’s to say Beatty and company aren’t ready?

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, everyone is entitled to their opinion

Do you think you are breaking any new ground with that insightful nugget? He gave his 5th grade sounding “see I told you so” opinion, and I gave my rebuttal opinion.

Just get it done already...

by tommy d. on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it was the self promoter bit

I never saw him spamming his site, just a guy pointing out that a repeated point he has made here (and elsewhere) since the 2008 play-off debacle about the Giants is that their line is getting old. However, you are entitled to your silly 5th grade retorts as well, so by all means blam away.

by brisulph on Jul 27, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't like the self promoter comment.

I get it. And I know he has been mentioning that the Oline has been getting old and the Giants were at risk of it becoming a problem. I didn’t realize he has been pointing this out since 2008. It sure has taken a long time for him to be able to say “I told you so.” And yet, it’s too soon.

I still say until I see the people JR drafted to replace our current Olinemen fail, or watch free agents that MAY be signed fail, then Jimmy is jumping the gun.

Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES

by tommy d. on Jul 27, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well he was right in the sense that the Giants needed to address the OLine issues

Clearly they havent been fixed just yet, but the process of overhauling it has.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that was his opinion,

and had written it in those simple terms, then maybe he would be right. If you haven’t read his take on it above, maybe you should. It’s not as simple as the Giants haven’t addressed their Oline issues. He was sounded the death-nell of our Oline and said “I told you so.” And when framed in those terms, he is wrong.

Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES

by tommy d. on Jul 26, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this sounds like moreso an episode of jerry springer

than a possible contract negotiation

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

jerry reese shouting match 2.0

osi, then burress, whos next?

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shockey was the first back in the day

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the tweet about the Plax meeting
MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
Try again: Plaxico Burress to visit Giants WEDNESDAY: nj.com/giants/index.s… #nyg

by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 26, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

might have to go

and buy those cheap #17 jerseys since they might be valid again

by ddhamaka814 on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

I mean you wouldn’t meet with the guy face to face just as a PR move…

by ddhamaka814 on Jul 26, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

Not with the time constraints and competition for players that is ensuing.

Thank you, you got it done. Follow me on twitter @it's about time you A-HOLES

by tommy d. on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact

that he agreed is somewhat surprising too. They way he talked about Coughlin made it seem like he wouldn’t even consider returning..

by ddhamaka814 on Jul 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Money talks

I’m sure Plax has some bills to pay, so why not suck it up and get paid ……. then act a fool

by KumaBlue42 on Jul 26, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOO!!!

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope

not a peep

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's a goner unless something happens with Osi

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

he might be willing to sign a 1 yr deal

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that 6th round pick to some team along with a first rounder for next years draft for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

………..(insert overly expensive free agent for redskins to trade for here)

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh!!!!

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

i havent heard anything on twitter for over half an hour

shits gotta be goin down

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Iggles trying to "squeeze" Cards in trading Kolb

for a 1st round pick AND DRC.

Ridiculous. just ridiculous.

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

rofl

nice League reference :D

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by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

ironically enough didn’t the “trade rape” involve plaxico in that episode?

by ddhamaka814 on Jul 26, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it did

It was the Mr. McGibblets episode I believe

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

just went on you tube and it was ronnie brown for plax

by ddhamaka814 on Jul 26, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

such a great show

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah... oh Taco

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the guy who plays him does alot of web rap videos too

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Lajoie

he is hilarious

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by wangstu13 on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone asked for how much Paul Posluzny's contract was

…its for 7 million dollars a year.

Eff that, if that’s what it costs, I don’t want an LBzez

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Rorschach and Ed must be going out of their minds...

with the possibility of Plax coming back to town, lol.

by GoffAttack on Jul 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm ok with Plax as long as Smitty comes back

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by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know as much as anyone why the Giants don't need the headache that is Plax

But I think we’re forgetting the one reason why we NEED him. Remember how Eli would throw balls a foot over Plax’s head, and he’d still pull them down? Eli hasn’t stopped doing this. If he gets Plax back, he’ll remember that there’s only one guy who’s capable of that.

Now let’s look at the ideal scenario:
Nicks has earned his place as the #1 on this team
Plax takes the second spot, against a corner who will likely be unable to defend those ridiculously high passes
Steve Smith returns to his role in the super bowl as best slot reciever in the league
Manningham goes up against a 4th corner, and that’s not fair.

by Frigidevil on Jul 26, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i like the sound of that scenario

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take a look at Eli's games in 08 without Plax and his numbers since then

Even last year was better than any year with Plax

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by Syler on Jul 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plax won't make him worse

Plus Eli was the one Giant I always heard was interested in bringing him back.

by Frigidevil on Jul 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right, my bad

I just remembered reading the headlines about Eli, those guys visited him in prison too.

by Frigidevil on Jul 27, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is another guy who can do that

His name is ramses barden.

He’s younger. And taller.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-

by wilddre22 on Jul 27, 2011 1:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am salivating at the thought of a foursome of WR

Nicks and Plax on the outside and Manningham and Smith/JJ in the slot. Lets the Eagles sign Nnamdi. They still won’t be able to cover all of our WR. And let’s not forget how bad the Eagles safetys are. Nate Allen and a rook in Jaqwaun Jarrett.

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by wangstu13 on Jul 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Ramses at tight end

And jernigan at rb. Screw a running game right?

We don’t need the headache that is plaxico burress.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-

by wilddre22 on Jul 27, 2011 1:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

someone said earlier on here

that they were workin on a 1 year deal

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah i've read that his injury helps us from a negotiating point

Sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal to let him earn his worth again, same deal with Kiwi. Only problem is I think teams would be willing to risk it and pay him now.

by Frigidevil on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

well its about time for bed

hopefully i wake up to some crazy awesome free agent signing in the morning lol

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Jul 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like today is done

plenty of shizz did happen though

Get Better, Not Bitter.

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am alil uneasy

about the future of our offensive line…. but i am happy so far with our pursuits. If we get Ruud i will be pleased, maybe restructure O’Hara?

by WreckinCrew56-55-53-58 on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Bad news: Cowboys resigned Doug Free

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by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Why is this bad news?

It takes them out of the Nnamdi sweepstakes likely allowing Tampa even more money to sign him. One of their corners is likely headed to prison the other is 36 years old and likely to be released.

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by wangstu13 on Jul 27, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

As per twitter "retweet" by M Garofolo

" Breaking: Sources: #Redskins and Barry Cofield agree to terms, pending though an official signing on Friday. "

by KumaBlue42 on Jul 27, 2011 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

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by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good for him

It made me sad knowing we weren’t gonna pay for him, he earned the right to get severely overpaid by the Skins. I just hope he doesn’t make us regret letting him go.

by Frigidevil on Jul 27, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

SS is coming off major surgery and Nicks has missed on average 3 games a season. Plax knows the offense and should be able to start midway through the season – possibly earlier.

Admit it – our efforts to replace him didn’t go too well for a end zone threat. Barden just hasn’t blossomed yet.

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

fully agreed

and when Plaxico was on the team we actually beat the Eagles. Could you imagine all the talk about this season if we sign Plax and then promptly beat the Eagles twice and take the division by storm.

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by wangstu13 on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Eagles have a down year

I just never saw Vick put back to back years together and he started to show rust at the end of last season.

I’m a little more worried about the Cowchips since they’ll fix the problems on the OL and defense …especially if they get Nmandi.

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Jul 27, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is not too surprising

But I did not expect both O’Hara and Seubert to go.

We’re now: Beatty/Diehl/?/Snee/McKenzie

But that ? at center has ballooned in size. Do the coaches really like Koets?

"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Jul 27, 2011 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe they can get the C in Carolina - he's only 27

I hope they get Ruud.

Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame

by The Curse on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Kalil got the franchise tag

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by Syler on Jul 27, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."

by ct17 on Jul 27, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

wanted to thank everyone for the updates

much more entertaining reading the BBV comments than sifting through confusing twitter updates.

this is what it sounds like when the birds cry

by pataroons on Jul 27, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

6 years $36 million....

Congrats Barry, you got your big contract and the Redskins got another 4-3 DT for their new 3-4 defense……

by BigBlue82 on Jul 27, 2011 6:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I love the LOLskins

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Jul 27, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plax

I for one would like to see Plax once again in a Giants uniform. I hope Reese overrules Coughlin in this situation.

by GMen56-11 on Jul 27, 2011 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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