Giants UDFA Signings (Updated): Henry Hynoski Biggest Name To Join Giants
by Ed Valentine on Jul 26, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
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[Note by Ed Valentine, 07/26/11 11:01 AM EDT: Add Florida DE Justin Trattou to the list of UDFA's]
[Note by Ed Valentine, 07/26/11 10:11 AM EDT: I guess we will use this as an Open Thread to discuss UDFA signings. Mike Garafolo is reporting that Iowa State safety David Sims, Richmond defensive tackle Martin Parker and Oregon linebacker Spencer Paysinger will sign with the Giants.]
[Note by Ed Valentine, 07/26/11 9:26 AM EDT: Mike Garafolo is now confirming that Hynoski will be a Giant. For me, this is the best UDFA the Giants could have picked up.]
The madness of negotiating with undrafted free agents began Monday night. While they can't be signed officially until 10 a.m. ET today two have already been connected with the New York Giants, South Carolina offensive tackle Jarriel King and Pittsburgh fullback Henry Hynoski.
Hynoski is a player I have been advocating that the Giants go after since back before the draft. He is a 6-foot-2, 260-pound blocking back. In our pre-draft profile of Hynoski, Sideline Scouting called him a "Strong blocker, a traditional lead blocker who really packs a punch."
Back in April, SB Nation's Mocking The Draft rated Hynoski as the top fullback available for the draft. I also profiled him when looking at potential Giants UDFA signings.
Hynoski would likely mean the end of Madison Hedgecock's Giants career, and quite possibly mean a return to tight end for Bear Pascoe. That is a move that could help the Giants immemsely, and protect them in the event Kevin Boss leaves via free agency.
King is a 6-foot-5, 324-pound lineman. In its assessment of him, National Football Post said: "Is a talented NFL-caliber athlete, but needs to tighten up his footwork and learn to use his hands better in order to anchor with more consistency. Has experience at both tackle and guard and may be best suited to play inside in a zone scheme, but either way, he's more of a developmental/upside guy at this stage."
Remember, these are not official signings yet -- so anything can happen. We will try our best to keep you up to date throughout the day. Check out Big Blue View on Twitter for updates, as well.
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HH would be key
IMO he could start immediately if he is able to pick up blitz packages.
Given the short training camp and TC’s aversion to playing rookies and inexperienced players, I expect that this years UDFA crop to be camp fodder even more than usual. Practice squad material.
But HH is something to cheer about.
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
Henry Hynoski
this is great news, like you said Ed, this signing helps us in a lot of ways. And it will be cheaper then getting one of the FA FBs.
I think Hynoski could be looked at as cheaper than Hedge
They need to free up some money. Hedge does not make a lot, but every little bit helps
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
I think
we knew Hedge was a goner, when he cleaned out his locker last year. HH can’t have any worse hands than him either, hope this kid is a sledgehammer!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
and that picture of Hynoski...
shows he is ready for Giants Stadium
Wow
I hope we really get HH! That signals to me Jerry has serious concerns about signing Boss remember IN Reese We Trust, The Giants know they have a tight ceiling looks to me like we wont over pay for Smith, Kiwi, Bradshaw or Boss Heres our offer if not good luck on a losing club
it doesn't get old only keeps getting better
Still available
Ryan Batholomew at center, Brandon Saine as RB.
With Kirkpatrick and Barnes already gone, Bartholomew is probably the other potential value at Center. Saine could be a change of pace guy off the bench, has spped and some power, can catch, durability issues, not super vision.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Good catch with Bartholomew, I thought all the decent C’s were tied elsewhere. He could be a solid pickup.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
looks like Ravens got Bartholomew too
They got him AND Barnes.
Though maybe one gets cuts and becomes available during preseason.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
If Petrus was smart
He practiced snapping the last 136 days
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Smart kid then.
And overall beneficial to the team.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Where did Kirkpatrick go?
I thought he was still in play. He was not drafted to my recall.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jul 26, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Watched some tape on Saine
The kid is a big back but is really shifty.
I see your point. However. Your stupid.
David Sims (S) a NYG
A freaking hammer, 5’9", 200#, good for ST, best as a zone S against the run, not much for coverage. Decent UDFA pick up.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Returns kicks too
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
cool
he used to be an RB, but I did not know he returned.
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Here
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Like it
Hits hard, can catch and run. What a concept.
4.5 40 and 26 bench reps. A good ST pick and run stopper.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jul 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
After reading O'Hara's comment at ESPN.com regarding his attitude on a possible contract renegotiation...
I’ve decided that I’d rather see him leave than. Sorry, but he seems to be a bit out of touch regarding his injury and his performance at times last…not to mention the performance of his fill-ins (even though I did just mention that)
sigh...
no offense...
but O’Hara might know a little something more about his injury and recovery then we fans do. I really hope he reconsiders restructuring his contract, but lets not be so quick to throw him to the curb just yet.
none taken
O’hara said that he doesn’t believe that he should have to renegotiate his contract because he is healed. My point is that by stating that he isn’t open to any renegotiation. That’s fine, from a business point of view, but with all that has happened regarding the cap and the situation that the Giants are in I believe that everyone should at least be willing to talk about contract modification.
Now, that happens only in a perfect world.
sigh...
This is
uncharted territory for everybody in the NFL, quick decisions have to be made. I think
his time has come at 34 years old, coming off two surgeries!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
good point
teams can’t afford to hesitate and there is no time to “see how it feels in a few weeks”
sigh...
O'Hara admitted that he needed to see the team medical staff
because he wasn’t even sure about his health. That doesn’t sound like someone who knows a lot about his injury.
he just had two surgeries
of course he is going to see the team medical staff
That's the point
The point is that he doesn’t even know what his condition is right now.
"I don’t see why that should be an issue as long as I’m healthy," O’Hara said Monday, according to the Bergen (N.J.) Record.
Any news on Zane Talyor?
Hes talked to the Jets and the Giants.
Guess we will find out soon
by giantfan664 on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Available TE's
Charlie Gantt and Schuyler Oordt still seem to be out there
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
Just woke up and couldn't be happier
that Hynoski decided on us
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
Wasn't he your 4th rounder in your dream draft?
The 2011 Giants draft class just got stronger.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
great news
just don’t faint anymore.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
lol no promises if we get Herzlich
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
can’t blame ya there
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Any news on Zane Taylor?
Big strong center from Utah. Was my ideal UDFA signing after the draft.
20 minutes
till we can start getting some offiical Herby Hancocks on some contracts
Philadelphia picked up Chas Henry
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions
Richmond DT Martin Parker
is the newest Giant
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
as per Mike Garafolo
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
We got Parker
Barry is a goner. Now that is a revelation!
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
by UnknownJintsFan on Jul 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
seems like it. Parker was one of the better UDFAs out there
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Defensive MVP of East-West Shrine game
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
This is going so fast that the UDFA's will be gone
Before 10 am so GM’s can focus in on free agents
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Herzlich to decide
between Baltimore, Philadelphia, and NYG @ 10 A.M.
Damn, I hate to think of the prospect of rooting against him.
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions
I thought he had decided on Baltimore
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for dumb and dumber awesomeness
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It's on!!!!!!
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Polish Hammer - Henry Hynoski
The Jets can wail all they want about John Conner, I’m telling you this dude grew up right down the road from me he is a friggin’ sledgehammer at the line, catches the ball with his hands, and is a natural ball carrier(even though he wasn’t used as that at Pitt and won’t carry much with us). He’s 6th in Pennsylvania history career rushing yards. Take the punch of Hedge and add lateral quickness, speed, and hands.
DWTDD
Rich "Lunch Pail" Seubert
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
you beat me to it Larry
I was just going to comment, Im sure he had his lunch pail in hand
Canty and Beatty just showed up
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
ummm.... who?
and where are you finding this info?
mike garafolo on twitter
get with the program Matt haha just kidding.
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm not a twitter junkie
so i guess i’m behind on the times
Paysinger tweeted it himself
Mike G retweeted it on his page
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Schefter
Says Giants are favorites for Herzlich
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wow
If we got Hynoski and Herzlich, that’s a pretty solid UDFA draft class! About as much as I could have hoped for. Then again, you just never know how these guys are going to pan out…
Gmen the favs because Herzlich feels he can come in and start right away. I like this guy.
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
profootballtalk saying
SS12 ready to sign 1 yr deal with NYG
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions
Damn
I knew this would be nuts but this is crazier then the draft days… FAs, Resignings, Rookies, UFAs…I LOVE FOOTBALL!!
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+10000000000
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Great!
Would love to have Herz “the German Panzer” with Big Blue if he can come back from cancer and beat the odds love to see him on the field with Blue on his back He is a fighter and has tons of character sounds like a Giant to me
it doesn't get old only keeps getting better
The twitscene is quiet right now
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
i have to admit that i'm a little upset about that
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
yep... but u can't get em all
i think we’re doing fairly well right now.
very true
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
WFAN reporting Osi to hold out
per Pat Traina’s twitter
"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
hopefully we can trade him to the loser of the ray edwards sweepstakes
aka falcons, seahawks, etc
i know there were rumblings at the falcoholic
about trading for osi
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
do they have any draft picks left?
i know they gave a lot away for that WR in the draft
they have their 2nd rounder next year
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
right, but they gave away their 1rst and 4th
you really think they’ll deal the 2nd too? If so they’re going all in this year with a team that really isnt THAT great
they happened to think so....which is why they did that trade for Julio
“this year is their year” according to the falcoholics. I could see them going for Osi
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
John Abraham!! am I missing something?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
pair him up with abraham
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but both SUCK and I mean suck at stopping the run.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
ATL need not know that :)
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He does live in ATL too.
I say Pay him, well depending on what he wants, which i assume is a contract thats not so heavily weighted on incentives.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Osi...
Just needs to GO! Get rid of him. If Strahan were still here…this wouldn’t happen.
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That was different
He was probably 90% sure he was retiring at season’s end. Apples & Oranges analogy.
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
so it begins...
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Hold out???
that doesnt vote well for the player anymore, why would he do that??
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Nnamdi wants to be a Jet
Not to play for Rex…. but to be an actor
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
talk about a beast...
AdamSchefter:
First Bronco in the building at 8:01 this morning? Tim Tebow. Of course
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
He prolly spent the night in John Fox's trunk
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
ha...no doubt.
He’s one of those guys I hope does well. Just seems like a good dude.
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Tebow is a gym rat...
he is probably making the Folgers for everyone
He is one of those guys that will not except not doing well
Coming out of college everyone was wondering if he was a sure QB, i always said screw it cause im sure he is a PLAYER…… this kid wills himself to any and everything he has ever wanted to do. Go Tebow!!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
What is everybody watching?
To keep up with the signings? Is there a twitter or NFL page? I am hoping for Herzlich.
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
twitter and
cbssports
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Mark Herzlich!
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
AdamSchefter:
RT @MarkHerzlich: Decision is made I will be a #GIANT can’t wait to get to #NYC. Thank you for everything. [via Tw
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
niiiiiiice
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Tom Quinn still here?
Herzlich confirms Giants!!!!
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
you guys are my vicarious twitter feed
keep up the good work! can’t get to twitter at work (not that I ever check it anyway)
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
HERZLICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCH
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
Recovered from fainting?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i fainted and left my finger on the "c" key
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Jul 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Didnt he go to the Ravens??
sadly
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
no he said those rumors were a lie
herzlich’s twitter itself confirmed this
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Great
That guy is a welcomed addition, competition just got real.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
nope...
He just confirmed it on Twitter…he’s coming to the NYG
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
We got him???
Sweeet the only FA LB i said we would bring in that would end up on the team………….i am over excited.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Awesomeness
MarkHerzlich Mark Herzlich
Decision is made I will be a #GIANT can’t wait to get to #NYC. Thank you for everything.
Lockout over…check!
Giants VS Panthers tickets purchased…check!
Now Herzlich…checked!??
Holy crap does this week get any better.
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
SUPAHBOWL BOUND, GENTLEMAN
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
Hynoski, Parker, Herzlich all potential starters
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jarriel King is another huge upside tackle
hopefully we can sneak him into the practice squad
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
IDK about that but awesome players that will get playing time
Herzlich who i love is a year away from starting IMO, that rod in his leg zapped his speed but he is still super instinctive and awesome in pass coverage, if he can get back to his old self, he is the next Brian Urlacher for sure.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Herzlich
is the definition of a Tom Coughlin player.
all the way down to the school he went to.
BC
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
True
Which is why I said potential starter. A lot of unknowns remain like who is going to get cut and free agent signings. The Gmen are a meritocracy so whomever plays well will start. In our group of LBz Herzlich can move up pretty fast. Hynoski is a no doubt starter IMO
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you so much
For disappointing a lot of Ravens fans.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
you are quite welcome, Mr. Stephens
tell Malor I said hi
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad we got Herzlich
He has good upside and potential impact player. But he went undrafted for a reason. He might never return to form, and will probably have little to no impact on the upcoming season.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
Yeah but we finally drafted a 1st round LB!!!!!!!!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
OOOOOOKKKKKK!!!!!!..... YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Herzlich, Hynoski WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! all we need now is a center and we’ve pretty much taken care of our weaknesses. man I’m really siked … Lets go BIG BLUE!!!!!! time to kill those iggles
Whoa Nelly
all it took was some UDFA’s and now we are all of a sudden in the superbowl and all of our weaknesses are taken care of now??? i spent all summer arguing just for some UDFA’s to quench everyones thirst in 2 seconds.
thats pretty pathetic guys, if all it took was a bunch of guys who werent drafted to make us better, then what the hell was all the we need this and we need that talk about??
I still love yall but yall are insane, lol
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
I think its more along the fact
that this isn’t lockout related
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
oh ok, makes sense
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
haha we've been stymied for so long with so much lockout BS
I should get an honorary law degree
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
yea big time. Finally some players moving.
I think the FB is a pretty good reason to be excited. The rest are ok. Herzlich I hope for the best but maybe he can get back. At least you know he’ll work is ass off to make it happen.
But you can find a good FB in the UFDA pool. And this guy has a great scouting report. I think there’s a good reason to be excited for him.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
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i never said super bowl all I ever said was now its time to crush those iggles. we need to beat the eagles and get over that hump so that we can get to the playoffs. I will let the playoffs worry about itself. we addressed our fb and lb weakness for now why shold we be gald about it? on paper we look good right now. we have players that seem to cover some weaknesses. so enjoy it. thats what everyone else is doing right now. I’m not saying super bowl i’m saying lets get over this hum we call the iggles and crush them
by gospocentric on Jul 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I think...
Everybody is just excited. Can’t blame anybody either. This has been a long time coming.
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I guess the lockout does things to certain people, LOL!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I still like
the C/G from San Diego. He’s a proven NFL starter, versatile, has good upside and he shouldn’t be expensive at all.
Herzlich will bring all sorts of good karma to our squad
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
That i agree with
His intagibles will be worth more than his tangibles this year.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Super excited about Herzlich. Fills a need and no doubt about his talent. Will be curious to see if he ever gets back to top form from his junior season, but I’d imagine he can come close.
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by dwill8brooklynbound on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
who has a bigger impact on the G-men this season
Hynoski or any other rookie we drafted or signed?
Imma go out and say Prince
because I have a feeling we cut Ross….or he gets demoted
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Dont kill me
But are all aware that a healthy Ross (which is a stretch) is a much better corner than Terrel Thomas who i like as well but he cant hold a torch to a healthy Aaron Ross. If healthy the CB spots after Webby could be all mixed up depending on camp……….. Lets not forget Prince will have a learning curve especially with this kind of off season…… he certainly wont beat out Ross or TT in the first 6 weeks.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
not in the first 6 weeks sure
Ross has shown flashes of brilliance. But even when healthy the dude is inconsistent. TT is above average, but he’s consistently above average.
Ross has shown me equal parts Revis and CC Brown
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
deservedly...haha
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
he deserves them
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
TT said he really prefers to play in the slot
He was excited when we signed Prince, because he felt eventually he can go to a more natural position for him, where he started when Ross was our number 2. I think we all liked TT in that role, and this will be good for our secondary in the long run
TT is an above avergae run stopper
at CB, no way is he above average or consistently above average in pass coverage……any time a team wants a score especially of the deep variety, he gets victimized and he knows it. thats why he wants to move inside.
Ross is solid as long as he is healthy. CC brown??? i think Terrell Thomas shows more CC in coverage than any one else we have.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Prince could have a rookie season comparable to Nicks rookie year
come on late and light it up…Nebraska Cover 2 I hear has some similarities to PF’s
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 26, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
very possible...
he could be a big factor down the stretch. especially when ross gets injured inevitably
I dont see him getting the oportunities
to have that big of a rookie season, he is well versed in press covergae, Fewell system is read and react, something he didnt do a lot of, he is super smart but i dont see him having a year like nicks, i dont see him making that many special/ impact plays this year just due to him not having a playbook for this long and all the other outside factors that have been thrown at rookies this off season.
I do think the kid is special and will take a starting spot eventually.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Ross cap # is to small and not worth cutting.
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is that a real question
Hynoski will have less of an impact than our first three draft picks for sure, i also see Sash and Jones being more an impact………IMHO if Madison is healthy, Hynoski will not see the field, Hynoski is a camp body, as good as he is, he wont beat a healthy Madison for the job.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
it was a question pertaining to THIS YEAR ONLY
its very likely that we cut hedgecock to save the 1Million in salary cap space and hynoski will start right away at FB. Its not a position with a ton of learning curve.
I think Prince will be our 3rd corner and will some playing time… probably end up having more impact late in the season.
Austin doesnt get much time at all… much like Joseph last year
Jernigan will return punts, Scott probably returns kickoffs
yeah… it was a real question
Dont take offense to the "Real question thing"....not that serious
But i can see your theory happening all the way. I just know a healthy Madison is a cannon ball and will not be beaten by a UDFA, even one as good as Hynoski.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
i think he doesnt get the chance
and is a cap casualty…. injury concerns and declining play. I dont see the giants having the room to pay his salary.
Thats fair
but isnt saying injury concerns and declining play kind of redundant? his play declined because of injury, like any other human being thats an athlete. thats why i said a “Healthy” Madison will not be beat out.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
i guess i'm not sure
all i remember is seeing PFF scores that went down over the course of 2 or 3 seasons…. idk when he got hurt, etc.
either way he’s no less risky than just going w/ hynoski, especially given the costs.
Don't know about that Gates..HH can really catch the ball
and Hedge is totally inept in that regard
Smashmout
by Shaunthegiant on Jul 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Who is the better blocker??
in your opinion, i dont know hynoski as well as you seem to, do you think he could block better than a healthy madison or just as well, if so im with you. no doubt.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Hedge
hasn’t been a “good” blocker for a couple years, he’s gone!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
going, going gone!
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
and sash and jones will not see the field other than special teams unless we’re devastated by injury
They dont need to see the field
Special Teams has enough plays for them to make an impact on…..more so than a UDFA full back who if he doesnt play FB wont be on the field AT ALL.
Oh yea, im willing to bet that Sash sees the field alot more than you think.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
i think the FB is pretty important
I dont think arian foster wouldve had the year he had w/out Leach.
Not at all
but i also know it wasnt just leach at all.
also i would take leach hands down, he is far and above Madison and Hynoski so i dont know why you mentioned him.
Oh yea, we had a hell of a running game with Bear as well, so we are not that needy.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
i was just giving leach as an example of FBs being important
as compared to a coverage guy on special teams. FBs get swept under the rug a little too much.
it all matters obv…
I don't know Sash that well
but for some reason I love the idea of him covering kicks. He seems like he’ll help the specials A LOT
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
Yes pure animal
no care for his body, puts it all on the line, oh yea he had more picks in college than Prince and Peterson combined…..shhhhhh!! dont tell any one i told you that, he could actually compete with our two Miami boys to be honest.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
Ahem...
W0000000TTTT!!!!
Between Hynsoki and Herzlich my wishlist is fulfilled. The rest of the UDFA’s probably should’ve been drafted as well.
Now JR and Tuck just need to tell Nnamdi that if he comes to Big Blue, not only will he get to win a couple Superbowls, work on his life after football, but also get to work towards the betterment of humanity at large (provided they aren’t opposing QB’s)
Vikings take Derrick Locke
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
If BJ cant pick up a 3rd n 1 behind this pile driver ,well then im at a loss.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
HH is a really cool signing...he will be 1 of a few rooks on our team w/ a cult following
Blows Hedge out the F*ckin water…the boy can catch the rock…forget Locke anyway,B..he’s tiny and can’t beat out scott imho
Smashmout
Only thing that worries me with all these UFAs
is that the Giants will cut some of these guys that have huge upsides and may not be able to hide them on the practice squad
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
+2
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I know we all want to see these guys come in and play
because they have gotten months of hype and coverage while there was no football… but they are still UDFAs. If they were that good all along, they would have been drafted.
But the draft is only 7 rounds now
There are tons of guys who were drafted after the 7th round who became pretty good players, Jessie Armstead for one.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
not neccesarily..esp not at FB/or in Herz's case
But the other guys are mostly competition and bodies.
Smashmout
+1
Herz is a special case. If he does what he should be able to, he’ll be a steal but there is no guarantee. Would you really draft a blocker who isn’t a lineman when there are other, sexier holes to fill?
by LightningCoach on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Mark Herzlich trending nationally
excited to see what this guys’ talent and work ethic can bring on and off the field
Sorry double post
Wiki is some kind of living entity.
I posted on the Jets site that Wiki had Brodney Pool as a Jet wayyyy before it ever happen..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Wiki is some kind of living entity.
I posted on the Jets site that Wiki had Brodney Pool as a Jet wayyyy before it ever happen..
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Sex is like math. Add the bed, Subtract the clothes, divide the legs ... And pray to god you don't multiply!!
Thanks
Nostradamus, LOL!
Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!
by Great Gatsby on Jul 26, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Banta-Cain will be released, Nick Barnett will be traded or released per Adam Schefter
Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...
by Major on Jul 26, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
barnett's injury prone and Banta-Cain is a DE for us.
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