New York Giants Notes: Stuff We Already Knew
by Ed Valentine on Jun 30, 2011 10:15 AM EDT
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Moving on from the Justin Tuck-LeSean McCoy-Osi Umenyiora discussion, here are some notes for you this morning, New York Giants fans.
Kiper's 'summer audits' - NFC East Blog - ESPN
Mel thinks the Giants would have gone for an outside linebacker in the first round if Prince Amukamara hadn't fallen into their laps. That linebacker spot remains an issue, and Mel (a wise, wise man) thinks (as I do) that New York still could stand to address the offensive line: "How long will this aging offensive line hold together? We saw them struggle last year, so expect the G-men to do some scouring for starting help in free agency, or at least adding some depth. Same situation at linebacker, where the team was frankly terrible in 2010."
Umm ... I'm glad Mel, and ESPN NFC East blogger Dan Graziano read BBV -- where we have been talking about those positions for months.
When NFL free agency begins, which offensive players will be in high demand? - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN
Noteworthy for Giants fans is that there are two players on this list -- Ahmad Bradshaw and Steve Smith.
Making the Grade: Running Backs, 2008-2010 | ProFootballFocus.com
PFF's top-graded players over three years, looking today at the running backs. NOTE: The Aforementioned Bradshaw is on this list. Brandon Jacobs is not.
Around The NFL
NFL labor: Is NFL labor peace breaking out? - latimes.com
All signs point to the NFL and players inching closer to a labor agreement that would not only save the season but keep training camps and exhibition games intact. If there isn't a growing peace, both sides are doing an awfully good job of faking it.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith addressed about 150 rookie players for about 45 minutes Wednesday in Sarasota, Fla., and told the media later they are working hard toward getting a deal done.
Smith, standing with Goodell after addressing the rookies, told the media, "Obviously, what we are doing on the business of football on a macro scale is about getting a fair deal done and back to the game and business of football as quickly as possible."
Goodell, who came to the NFLPA event at Smith's invitation, said, "It was a great opportunity for us to sit with the rookies. They obviously have lots of questions to be answered. We answered their questions as best we could, but you all know we are under certain restrictions. We are taking a break (from settlement talks) because we felt it was important to be with the players. We both have great respect, obviously, for the players and this is an important few days and we are going back to work."
"You know, I think I should be the number one guy on the list," Ware said. "But at the end of the day, people are going to vote you where they think you should be."
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demarcus ware is pretty damn good
number 1? i dont know that he changes a game more than peyton adrian tom aaron or drew…
by The Blood of Eli on Jun 30, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
Arguably the number one defensive player, not overall though
If the NFL had a re-draft of all players, IMO, he wouldn’t crack the top 10. It would be top heavy with QB’s and RB’s. So with Ware at 12, that’s not too bad considering the competition amongst all positions. His pride and ego must have taken a hit, thats all!
Maybe not more but certainly he has a great argument.
the #1 player spot is going to be arguable regardless because when you say #1, there are a handful of guys that can easily be rotated into #1 based on what you like to see.
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Gave you another shout out on his morning links post today Ed. If you havent already seen it.
I have not yet begun to procrastinate
Sweet!
Dan is a good guy, even if I did have a little fun with him here. Incidentally, I know that Dan reads BBV and other Giants blogs more than his predecessor, and I give him props for that.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 30, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The Giants would've gone for an OLB Mel?
who is this OLB they’d go for? Ayers went at pick 39 and Bruce Carter went at #40. Maybe they trade up in the 2nd round for them, I dunno…but I doubt the way the Giants draft that they’d be selecting either one of those guys in the first round.
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I'm way more concerned with the OL
than I am LB.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
We need a center, thats it!!
It seems as though maybe im lost because the only problematic position IMO was LT, which is a simple fix, let Beatty play, he was awesome in his starts…….injuries at the center position are my only concern.
Sam backer is the only position at LB that needs a clear cut starter…..someone please slap me because i dont see where this major concern is.
It has become appearent to me that we have so much talent and are such a good team that people are nit picking to find some area that needs improvment….Sam and Center are definetly in need but to say OL and LB are in this great need of help has to be coming fromthe casual fan ir the nervous Giant fanatic.
We lost because of turnovers, Shotty safety play at inoportune times and horrible special teams but we can blame OL and LB i guess.
I value Mels opinion by the way but i dont agree that we would have went OLB in the first round at all.
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
How about LG
Seubert is aging and coming off of a majore injury, Andrews has a bad back, Diehl hasnt played G in a long time. Not sure if he is the answer at LG. They need a LG AND A C. I think Beatty would be ok as out starting LT,
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
Does no one have faith in
Mitch Petrus…..what did he do for us to quit on him…… you see his passion for the game….he would be the ultimate LG or RG if you want to kick Snee inside to C
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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
So am I
I think we need 2 OL at minimum.
Shocked that we only drafted one raw OL.
O’Hara and Seubert look like their done.
As for LB in the 1st…there wasn’t one rated for that spot and we got plus value on every pick,so….
If anything I could see us take Danny Watkins there.
I agree they need 2 OL
They need any combination of a LG, LT, and a C.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
A good FA center? Yup
If the NYG sign NO free agents on the OL they probably start the season looking like this.
Seubert on PUP and available after 6 games ( his was a serious injury)
RT – Kareem with Brewer backing up
RG Snee with Petrus backing up
Center – O’Hara and Koets – whomever is playing better
LG – Diehl with Boothe backing up
LT Beatty with Andrews backing up (or perhaps starting for as long as his back lasts)
That’s TEN on the OL and they usually do not keep that many.
When Richie comes off of PUP them someone has to go.
So yeah, a center is all they really need – that plus the guts to cut O’Hara
Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.
I already ripped on Kiper on that ESPN draft board
What Kiper doesn’t get is we wouldn’t have used that 1st round pick on an OLB. Doesn’t matter if Prince is there or not. JR doesn’t place a premium on the LB position. We didn’t take a LB till the 6th round. We look to fill the LB position through FA most years. Kiper just said that to boost his ego because he mocks a LB to us in the 1st every year.
Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...
Ruud
is the kind of MLB the Giants have gotten in FA in the past. See Pierce, Barrow. A real solid player, QB of a defense. Pencil him in for 100 tackles a year. Kick Goff to the outside. I would like Ruud in a Giants uni.
Just get it done already...
this this THIS
Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon
by BigBlueIntervention on Jun 30, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yes. Ruud or Tulloch, although I doubt we do anything of the sort
Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon
by BigBlueIntervention on Jun 30, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno about Ruud, but I'm pretty sure he's not going back to the Bucs
seems like just a case of ‘grass is greener’. He’s not nearly as good as Pierce or Barrow were when they were FA’s
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