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Keep Or Cut? Shawn Andrews

It is virtually impossible to try and construct a 53-man roster for the New York Giants right now. With the NFL Lockout we have no idea what the salary cap will look like, or if there will be one. We have no idea who will come -- or go -- via free agency. We don't even know for sure if rosters will have 53 players or some other, higher number.

We pretty much don't know anything. Except that we are bored and we need things to talk about. So, let's do a little 'keep or cut?' series. Regardless of the extenuating circumstances, I think there are certain players about whom it is obvious the Giants have decisions to make. Occasionally, over the next few weeks (meaning when the mood strikes me) I will toss out a player for discussion -- including what I see as the reason both for and against keeping the player as part of the 53-man roster.

First up on the chopping -- or non-chopping -- block, whichever the case may be, is mountainous offensive lineman Shawn Andrews.

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Why the Giants should keep him

The 6-foot-4, 325-pound Andrews is just 28. He is a two-time Pro Bowler and remains an incredible talent despite the chronic back injuries that have limited his once-promising career. He played well in limited time last season. Good offensive lineman, especially ones who can play multiple positions well -- as Andrews can -- are not easy to find. You can't let guys like this go lightly.

Why the Giants should cut him

For all that talent, and the fact that he seems like a great guy who has worked hard to get back to the form he showed earlier in his career, he is a player who just can't be heavily relied upon. The chronic back issues he has were part of the reason the Philadelphia Eagles let him go, and caused him to miss most of two NFL seasons. He showed with the Giants last season that his back may never be able to handle regular NFL snaps.

Andrews' contract is a huge part of the reason the Giants should cut him. If they keep him the Giants would owe him a $3.5 million roster bonus on the 30th day of the upcoming league year, on top of a base salary of $3 million. That is $6.5 million for a player whose week-to-week availability is always uncertain.

Conclusion

In my opinion, the Giants have to part ways with Andrews. The depth he theoretically provides is nice, but paying $6.5 million for a backup offensive lineman who might or might not be able to stand up straight and play on Sunday is not a smart investment.

Vote in the poll and let us know how you feel.

Poll
Should the New York Giants keep or cut Shawn Andrews?
Keep him
447 votes
Cut him
514 votes

961 votes | Poll has closed

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by JasonB on Jun 3, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on what is going on with O'Hara and Seubert

also whether they consider Andrews a LT or a G.

I’d renegotiate with him and see if he wants to try to make another comeback. But most definitely he can’t be making that $6.5 mil. He didn’t even earn it when he was healthy and he didn’t stay that way long enough to warrant it either.

If they just cut him and be done with it, I wouldn’t be disappointed either.

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 2, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree. . . mostly

I agree that it (and alot of other things) depends on O’Hara and Seubert and I agree that his contract would need to be renegotiated. I do think that when healthy he is worth the money. In my book he is a force when healthy. Problem is, if he is only healthy for a few games a year he isn’t worth big money. I say renegotiate and sign him only if he comes down quite a bit.

by NortheastKingdom on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Bring lawyers, guns and money to get me out of this one! Stand in the Fire.

by MSP Giant on Jun 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Would love to have him sitting on the back burner.

Hopefully he will see NOBODY will give him 6.5 mill. and take 2 mill to sit back and wait for the opening to play.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

by Troy O on Jun 2, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I wanted to vote cut him

But I know he reads these articles and sports blogs, so I went with ‘keep him’.
Kidding aside, the Giants structured his contract so that they could resign him in the unlikely event that he made it through the season in top form and top health. That was not the case, so it’s pretty obvious the decision the Giants have to make.
It’s a shame too, because of the gazillion questions being asked about the O-Line, his health and participation would solve just about all of them.
And of course, the best answer is ‘renegotiate his contract’, but that’s a cop out. If I was in charge, I’d renegotiate everyone’s contract to league minimum salaries.

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by pataroons on Jun 2, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the odds he does not get hurt?

1%? I think he has to be a cut, his back/brain are not likely to work out.

by brisulph on Jun 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Has all the talent and proved last year he has the ability...

when healthy.

A lot of question marks for $6.5 mil. Hopefully he realizes that to. Any word on the status of his back?

All that being said, I would like to see him back (hopefully for cheaper). I prematurely wrote a fanpost last year anointing him our next LT. That was under the assumption his back was going to hold up. I’m standing by what I saw of him though, a LT that kept Eli upright without any help.

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by Larry Soprano on Jun 2, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Very tough call

even without the questions hanging over the other injured OL guys. GIven those unanswered questions, I don’t see how you can cut him at this stage. When he’s healthy, he’s tremendous. On the other hand, I’ve had a bad back for many years. It’s a very complex area, and, unfortunately, quite hard to make a clean break from the problems, especially for a massive pro football player.

by saturday on Jun 2, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Just surprised....

That so many would say cut Andrews, and then so many would have the Giants taking an OT in the first round of this years draft……

I believe firmly that the Giants will keep him for two reasons:

1) We all say the flashes last year, if healthy, he can play. Not only can he play, I think he showed he can provide impact. Really, I think the Giants rushed him back and gave him to much too soon.

2) Giants management is going to do all they can to protect Eli. They are not going to give up a veteran OT who played well to save a few dollars, and pick up some journeyman that might end up gettting Eli killed.

by dubsrub on Jun 2, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

what does Andrews have to do with the Giants needs at OT?

the guy can’t stay healthy.

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by Rorschach44 on Jun 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Value

The guy is a great backup at the right price AS LONG AS he does not cost an emerging player PT

 Not a simple decision

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by MSP Giant on Jun 2, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Keep him

and restructure his contract before the 30th day. He has value as a spot starter and for depth. If he doesn’t want to restructure it, then cut him. It’s not as if he’s going to get a big deal somewhere else.

by GhostDini on Jun 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with this

If he’s willing to restructure his contract to say, i dunno… 2 mil a year and a 1 year or 2 year contract, than let’s keep him.

As it is now, you have to cut him.

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by Willgfass on Jun 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

There it is!

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Jun 5, 2011 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

we gave him a chance

to prove he could come back healthy and he didnt. Fool me once, fool me twice… I say cut him. Id rather have a project guy who cant play because hes still learning than a guy who cant play and there is little to no light at the end of the tunnel.

by ryanwk628 on Jun 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Back Problems cut him.

I have a bad back and would like to cut myself.

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Jun 2, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree, but...

why so somber?

"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."

by jcalafiore on Jun 2, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Jun 2, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted "Keep Him"

but I’d like to see him re-negotiate his contract to a more incentive based one. Make the incentives easy to get if he stays healthy (which, if he does, he’s a starter. hands down).

Even as an eligible tackle (or maybe as left tackle, with Diehl reporting eligible, since he’s built a rapport with Eli ;-) ), he can be a bulldozer.

by Raptor22 on Jun 2, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Even better

restructure it based on number of snaps or starts or something, and that determines how much he gets paid.

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by Willgfass on Jun 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

renegotiate

If Beatty can’t cut it at LT i want anyone there not named Diehl

by Lolmoarpl0x on Jun 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Have they tried acupuncture?

Keep in mind, the Giants could renegotiate his contract. It’s not like he and his agent think he’s in a great position to get that kind of money from another team.

by TheGifford on Jun 2, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Well,

We can say that Shawn Andrews can only take a bunch of reps after that he probably gets injured so what we need then if we kepp Shawn is another linemen that can take the rest of the reps. So we will need to pay 2 players for the playing time of one is it worth it?

by EJAAY on Jun 2, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep...

but not at that price

Hard to say cut when he was our best left tackle last year…our o-line was brolic with him a left tackle and diehl at left guard

by 18-1 on Jun 2, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He was a better guard than diehl to LMAO

Wish it was Beatty, and Andrews on the left to be honest…Diehl has a great attitude but his pass blocking is atrocious especially when we paid our QB that type of money and we have the leagues top recieving core next to GB.

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by Blue Gates on Jun 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Him of course

He was better than Diehl at LT even with back problems now that my friends is the definition of sad.

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But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

NEVER!!!

What other giant will talk to me on twitter?

Life is a rat race. You work you ass off because you have no choice, save all your money, only to die later. It's the story of everyone's life.

by espnsucks on Jun 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

NEVER!!!

What other giant will talk to me on twitter?

Life is a rat race. You work you ass off because you have no choice, save all your money, only to die later. It's the story of everyone's life.

by espnsucks on Jun 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

We need this part time beast on the roster

I think the only way he’s not a NY Giant next year is if he and his agent refuse to redo the current contract. Dude’s far from just an average player when healthy. I just wonder if it is as simple as renegotiating, I sure hope so.

by NYCGMEN on Jun 2, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It's cheaper to keep her.

I’m sure he’d be open to renegotiate his deal because no one will come close to offering him what the Giants would still give him. At a reduced rate he is an extremely valuable asset with his superior skill set and positional versatility. He is great insurance for our aged and injured line. In addition, he knows the offense well, this gives us a leg up on most other teams as far as being system acclimated. He is a definite keeper at a lowered price.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jun 2, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Also given Andrews’ fragile psyche, the pronoun is fitting.

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by JasonB on Jun 3, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's cheaper to keep her.

You didnt know my ex wife.

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Jun 2, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Incentive based contract

You’re healthy, you play, you get paid nicely. No one’s giving him $6.5 mil a year, so if he enjoyed his time here (he seemed to) and relishes playing against his former team a few times a year, then there should be a nice middle ground in there somewhere.

I’d love to see this poll but with this 3rd option, since that’s what many seem to be in favor of.

by TNYFBG on Jun 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep him

I’d consider keeping him just to piss off the Eagles!

by dunk244 on Jun 2, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Echo

I voted keep him because when he was on the line, the Giants actually could run to the left side for a change. However, his contract is incredibly prohibitive. If he made half or even two-thirds that amount, it would be a totally different story.
The best option is C. Try and restructure and give him some nice playing time incentives.

by Masakari on Jun 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought he was great at G, less so at LT

The back didn’t hold up, what makes anyone think it will this year

by trueblue63 on Jun 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

When did Kareem have back surgery?

Andrews has 9 starts in 3 seasons

Kareem has missed less than 9 starts in 9 seasons

by trueblue63 on Jun 2, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darn good deal by JR

Seems like that deal was good? Maybe he knew there would be a lockout?

by ross_stephen on Jun 2, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a trade of misfits

Plaxico Burress will be an Eagle after two years of prison, after Shawn Andrews became a Giant after two years sitting in his apartment making music and having the occasional back surgery.

They can sit in the press box together next year.

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by JasonB on Jun 3, 2011 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought Andrews was a huge sign before the year started...

and he proved to be. You could argue he provided the most value for the dollar than any Giant last year. JR will renegotiate his contract to about 2mil give or take a couple hundred thousand…We need all the depth we can get.

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by Give it to 44. on Jun 3, 2011 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

cut him

 For his own good. The guy’s going to wind up in a wheel chair at 30.

by blumag on Jun 3, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

That is a good point you bring up

 If he is at high risk of long term disability by continuing to play, the Giants doctors will let him know. If it’s too high and the team isn’t comfortable with the risks, they might cut him for his own good and tell him that. I feel the Giants and their medical staff do a pretty good job with those scenarios.
  I hope Shawn can still play and he ends up on the Giants again. He is a big fun teddy bear of a guy off the field and his tweets are sometimes hilarious. But voting about cutting or keeping without knowing the medical scenarios and risks he faces in trying to play football again is a little absurd, isn’t it? It’s a guy’s career we are talking about. I just wish him luck and good health, what ever he does.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Jun 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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