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Perry Fewell Seeks Consistency, And A Head-Coaching Job

In a pair of stories by Zach Berman of the Star-Ledger the past couple of days, New York Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell has made it clear he intends to be a head coach in the NFL one day, talked about how the Giants defense "did not play consistent enough" in 2010 and discussed the potential of 2011 first- and second-round draft picks Prince Amukamara and Marvin Austin.

For me, here is the money quote from Berman's two posts.

"I think all we did was just scratch the surface of what we can be with the New York Giants," Fewell said. "I thought we played well, but we didn’t play consistent enough. And as a guy that aspires to be a head football coach, we want consistency in our play and in our game."

I happen to agree with Fewell here. He did a good job in his first season with the Giants after being Buffalo's defensive coordinator and serving a short stint as interim head coach. The Giants defense was good, finishing seventh overall in the league in yards allowed per game. The Giants defense, though, was not as good as it can be -- or as good as the talent on the field indicates that it SHOULD be.

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This is a defense with the players to be a top five -- maybe even a top three -- unit in the NFL. Especially if Amukamara and Austin are able to quickly become solid contributors.

So, how do the Giants get there? How does the defense, which despite its talent gave up far too many big plays in 2010, become more consistent? How does Fewell become more consistent?

You had to know I would get around to it, but I do -- of course -- have some thoughts on that.

Mostly, all of my thoughts come back to one central theme. Fewell needs to allow the talented players he does have to play to their strengths rather than line up in positions, or play schemes, that don't maximize what they do best.

This is not meant to be a 'Fewell doesn't know what he's doing' kind of criticism. Hardly. He is an excellent defensive coordinator who brought stability, organization and a clear idea of what he wants to a defense that was in disarray after a year under the 'guidance' of Bill Sheridan.

Fewell brought a system that is Tampa 2-based, though he seemingly loathes being called a Tampa 2 coach. Regardless, his schemes seem zone-based. After a year we know he likes to use three safeties, we know press coverage is not his first choice for cornerback play and we know the all-out six- or seven-man blitz is something he only turns to out of dire necessity.

Of course I really don't want to see any more of Justin Tuck trying to chase a tight end 40 yards down the field, but my real hope is that Fewell has spent his offseason time -- after getting done interviewing for head-coaching jobs -- analyzing the Giants secondary and realizing that some changes in how his corners and safeties are used might improve that consistency he spoke about. And maybe get him a head-coaching gig sooner rather that later.

Let's look at the corners.

Corey Webster and Terrell Thomas, especially Thomas, are guys who have made their reputations in aggressive, press coverage schemes. Amukamara comes to the Giants with the reputation of being another guy who thrives in press coverage. So, let 'em get up there and press! It's what they do best.

Thomas has stated a preference for the slot, feeling like he can use his size and physicality to handle inside receivers. So, when you have three or four corners on the field let him do that. Put Aaron Ross, who always seems to wind up in chase mode when he plays in the slot, on the outside. Or, Amukamara. The other benefit of Thomas in the slot? He's a fairly big corner who is one of the better tacklers and run defenders in the league at his position. Putting him in the slot places him in a better position to support the run defense.

Now, let's look at the safeties.

We know Fewell loves the three-safety package. I understand it, and I don't mind it at all. It's a pass-happy league and this improves your pass coverage. Besides which, if your third safety is better than your third linebacker -- which was definitely the case in 2010 -- he should be on the field.

My issue is that I don't want to see Antrel Rolle, a guy who is best-suited as a play-making guy when the ball is in the air, hugging the line of scrimmage to play the run and try to chase tight ends. I also don't want to see Kenny Phillips playing so deep the quarterback needs binoculars to find him -- which was too often the case a season ago.

Fewell, without any doubt, knows more about defense than I can ever hope to. The one thing I do know about coaching, though, is that the job is to put your players in the best possible position to succeed. To find that consistency Fewell seeks I think that is the one thing he needs to do better in 2011.

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All good observations

It’s really scary to think how good this defense could be. Another year under the scheme, another year for KP to heal, two defensive draft picks that can contribute, TT moving to the slot, etc. No injuries (knock on wood) and I think we should expect a top 5 defense out of Fewell.

this is what it sounds like when the birds cry

by pataroons on Jun 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

TT....

I think it’s odd that he’s looking forward to playing the slot.

in ‘09 he was adamant that he was taking Ross’s job (as was I)….and he did. and he played better actually in ’09 than he did in ’10.

but I still question weather or not Prince is better on the outside right away….he has solid experience playing “off” coverage as well…and he’s not nearly the “press” cover specialist that Cweb was coming outta college…or TT for that matter.

factor in his speed and quickness and….ok, i’m gonna say it, inch shorter arms than normal, and he may not be the ideal “PRESS” guy.

but hey, who cares…Fewell doesn’t play press coverage that much….so essentially Prince is just an all around fit for this defense.

it’s a shame that I really can’t get too excited b/c perry fewell flat out scares me….and I think he’s making a lame excuses about last year….HE needs more consistency! HE needs to trust his players and his schemes more!

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Prince

I know about the short arms thing. And I know we will never see full press coverage from the Giants. I’d like to see it more often, though.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 15, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

DE's in coverage

i don’t think people realize just how often Spags dropped his DEs off the line….

no, it wasn’t all the time….but at least once or twice a game….

I was just watching the ’07 playoff game vs. TB…and Strahan dropped back on a zone blitz and made a great tackle vs the running back on a screen pass….about 5-7 yards off the line as well.

did it vs. Dallas the next week too but Witten beat him to the edge on a short completion.

it all goes back to continuity….Spags created it here.

Fewell hasn’t….

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

the trick is....

if your gonna drop a DE…and bring a zone blitz.

you gotta force the QB to throw quick….or your screwed.

not let Tuck get out into coverage 15 yards down the field….

that’s why Stray was so smart at dropping back…he new where the ball was going….he knew the hot routes and dump offs….and he knew this b/c A) he was really smart and experienced and B) he trusted his teammates would get “home”…and trusted his DC.

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like one of those things

where if it “works”, its sort of invisible most of the time and nobody says anything. When it goes bad though, it looks like the plan was to hope the ball bonks off the back of the DE’s head… which is just infuriating.

by Oppenheimer919 on Jun 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ for using the word "bonk"

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jun 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a sound I am very familiar with

from my WR days long ago. It also hurts more than one might expect.

by Oppenheimer919 on Jun 15, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to feel dirty for saying this.

But I hope we use the Cowboy approach to Fewell. Assure him of a head coaching job and let him stick on as the DC for the next few years.

We’ve shown we’ve got the talent, but what we need to harness it is consistency. I hate it when we just are starting to get comfortable with a DC, he leaves. Keep Fewell until he gets the HC gig so that we can have some continuity here.

Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon

by BigBlueIntervention on Jun 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

You know those promises are worthless

Boys paid Garrett like a head coach (we did the same with Spags), difference, Garrett’s O went south after he signed the contract and his stock crashed, Spags had our D as a top unit

I feel ya, but unless this is TCs farewell tour ….

by trueblue63 on Jun 15, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that until Fewell...

assures the NYG that he can make this defense better….nothing should be promised to him.

continuity…. while I agree…is also on HIM as the DC to address.

so he better find a way to fix it asap.

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL fix what?

Player judgements???….haha, it was a very sound scheme guys just asked Andy Reid who basically praised Fewell and his scheme……most of the complaints are based on player mis judgements not alignements or zone scheme but you guys dont see that i guess.

Mental lapses killed us but mental lapses in a new defense that changes every half will happen, i think you guys mis interpret the complexity of our scheme and just think its T2 and blah blah blah lol.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 15, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have outlined his inconsistencies time and time again

and those inconsistencies include…having Rolle play Cover 2 on 1 play, and than have him play in the box on the next play, and than have him matched up in the slot on the next play.

I mean, can you really blame a Safety for biting on a play action…when he is asked to defend the slot…. when ALL season long he’s been asked to play heavily in the box and help the run?

Can you really blame TT and Cweb for not playing up to their potential when one quarter they are asked to play “off” coverage, than next quarter they are asked to play “press” coverage….and than 5 times per game you ask them to actually get physical and Jam the WR? Can you really blame the Corners when Fewell is free lancing so much that he actually uses them as Safeties from time to time?

The Safeties never learned how to embrace the Cover 2…and the reason IMO is because they were used all over the place….not to mention….D. Grant was also playing C2 b/c Fewell prefered Rolle in the box.

so yes….i think that consistency in scheme equates very heaily to player judgement and have been saying this for a while….

it’s not checkers….you don’t have “pawns” that you move around….these are living breathing human beings…and they’re being asked to play like ALL PROS and master multiple schemes.

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet you if you ask them to do those same multiple things this year

they would be 10x better at it, and thats my point. I also have only heard every player to a man praise the scheme, it just takes time to click on all cylinders, and please dont tell me they are just not trying to rock the boat becasue Sheridan will tell you if they dont love the scheme, they will let you know!!.

Your basically saying the highest paid safety in the league shouldnt be asked to do multiple things on different downs lol haha. i dont know man.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 15, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i guess your right.

I mean, it’s not like Antrell Rolle came out and made a statement about not wanting to play so much in the box or anything….or taking on too many responsibilities

or idk…maybe if your own GM acknowledge it….maybe that would mean something?

too bad neither of these things happened this past off season

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/01/giants_safety_antrel_rolle_ref.html

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

Now you are taking stock in what statements Antrel Rolle has come out and said?……. he complained about taking on too much responsibility and you are defending him, and look when he made those statements, ask him TODAY if he still thinks that way, i bet you his answer is different, yes he should play back a lil more but no one plays in the box like him, Fewell mainly used him to invent the only scheme that could stop Mike Vick.

You can say what you want, he is going to be in the box even more this year if KP gets back to his ball hawking ways but your basically mad that Antrel can do everything at a high level, maybe the other guys in the DB room should make plays on the back end as well and not depend on him to be the best at everything.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 16, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fail...

Coming out of Miami U KP was known as an in the box safety getting more taclkles for losses then INTs in his college career. Rolle on the other hand was a CB in college only becoming a safety in the NFL. IMHO, KP and Rolle should be swapped in how they were used this year. Just like Ed said in his piece…..the coaches responsibility to his team (and fans) is to put his players in the best position to succeed and the best way to do that is to have the players do what they’re good at!

"bleedblue12 is an idiot"-wild_eagle

"The Eagles still have 0 SB wins"-bleedblue12

by bleedblue12 on Jun 16, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you Bleed

but your very argument lends to what fewell is doing, KP came out as an in the box safety but when he got to the league, his range was immense, more so than seen in college, which might i add, he was asked to play in the box because run support was bad, it wasnt that he couldnt be a ball hawk…. anyway, they saw that he could be dominant playing deep, remember his covergae on tory holt or whoever it was in the Rams game his rookie year, i mean they got the TD on some BS but his coverage was great. Point is players can have more than one strength……. and if you want to be technical, KP is a horrible blitzer and even under spags regime he was playing 20 yrds deep, this is nothing new for him.,….. Oh yea are you saying you would put a safety who is fresh off knee surgery and hadnt yet mastered playing in the box and who is not a good blitzer into a position that would stress his knee more than ever??, wow, not me, he actually was very bad at the line, he plays too high and is not effective at all, however Rolle is.

Speaking of Rolle he also, just like you said was asked to switch positions because they saw his strength being better used as a safety, you dont limit a guy to one thing anymore, thats when you need 4-5 guys rotating at a positon, we dont need that because we have do it all guys, i think the scheme once learned can wow people and shut down offenses but to blame a scheme that had to be on the field more often than most any defenses in the league because our offense always turned it over is insane. Time, people, time, stop nit picking and have faith…..the players love it then so do i, and it works!!.

This is all IMHO by the way.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 16, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure what's so funny here

You think i have something against the guy….I don’t.

you said you heard every player praise the scheme….

I showed you a direct quote from Rolle saying he was thinking too much due to his job responsibilites…

than you laughed it off….

one minute he’s the highest paid safety in the NFL and can do it all….the next we shouldn’t be putting too much stock into what he says?!?!

and this notion that he can do everything at a high level?!?! why on EARTH would I be mad at that?!?! I’m a giants fan!!!

but if he’s so awesome, how come he was moved from CB to Safety? Why does he bite on play actions? Why is he scared shitless of Aaron Rodgers?

just b/c he’s paid the highest doesn’t mean he’s the best Safety in football….

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 16, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He mouths off, dont tell me that he doesnt

He also said he thinks its a great scheme, he didnt say he had a problem doing so many things he was saying its the reason he was kinda thinking too much, i would like more balance as well 708, thats not what im saying, im sure him and KP would alternate more if he wasnt fresh off knee surgery and he was actually good in the box in the NFL. I didnt laugh it off, i laughed because you were entertaining me and you have good points, but to take immense stock in Antre Rolle’s impulisive action when he himself said on NFL network, he needs to shut up and Tuck told him the same. The point is i wouldnt really jump out the window with him talkin, he is impulsive and imotional and i kinda like that but he is mouthy but maybe i am just hallucinating.

He also said he loved the scheme and finally got comfy doing all the multiple things twds the end, this was after the season was over, you are taking one comment and using it as a blanket statement for the defense and that i do not agree with, this scheme lets EVERYONE make plays and thats what they love, so how can you argue against it when the people in it are embracing the challenge with open arms?

Yes being the highest paid means something, it means you are expected to go above and beyond for your team….. i never said he was the best at all, i said why are you defending the highest paid safety fromdoing multiple things when he is very good at all of them.

He was moved from cornerback to safety because, he is better with the play in front of him, safety is not the demotion it was back in the day 708, not to mention Antrel played his fair share of CB for us last year as well.

How do you know he is scared of Aaron Rodgers, i think he has proven he is not scared of anything, lol….. why does he bite on play actions because he was in the box most of the time and he was used to being aggresive on all play actions and blitzing hence me saying it took him a year to mentally wrap his hands around the multuiple scheme. Oh yea you really have time to name how many safeties and DB’s Aaron Rodgers made look silly with play actions and stuff? really, you gonna just point out Antrel

Your a Giants fan?? is that why you were so adamant in stating your starting safety is scarred shitless of another QB without an ounce of eveidence that he is actually afraid of him, just to prove a point to a fellow blogger.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 16, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wouldnt work Big Blue

Unless Fewell just cant get a job plus we dont hold coaches back as an organization thats why our scouting dept put together film of all four teams that Fewell interviewed for, so he can know those teams strengths and weaknesses. Also Kevin Abrahams (AGM) put together all the payroll info for those teams for fewell. Also when Reese thought they were giving him the Rooney rule run around he called the teams to make sure they werent BS’ing Fewell……….Now tell me what other team does that?? its like they want him to leave lol, but its actually cause we are a first class organization and we dont hold people back not even with promises of future jobs which we all know doesn’t always work out….. ask Jim Mora Jr. LOL

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 15, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giants would never replicate the dysfunctional Dallas circus

with a lame duck head coach undermined by a successor he did not pick for a retirement date the head coach has not initiated.

JJ does things his way. Giants practice better management.

"Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."

by AJ_in_VA on Jun 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think your assesment is a little rough Ed

Though i do see where you are coming from and you do make some good points, but the first thing that has to be mentioned is that this was their first year getting to know eachother, as well as first year in a totally different system so consistency comes with time and knowledge. Fewell also lost his jack of all trades Kiwi. I think that ruined alot of plans. Anyway i’ll touch on your points with my reasoning.

1) Cornerbacks
 I agree that they are better suited for press coverage but when you are trying to get turnovers which is what this system is designed to do, you kinda have to play off and read the QB, I think Webby can do this just as good as he presses, he just needs to get use to it like any human being. Thomas i agree should be in the slot like spags had him and like he was drafted to do but when you have a hurt Aaron Ross, it becomes hard to say hey, lets put the guy with plantarfaciatis on the outside in a read and react situation. Thomas played where he did based on circumstance not because that was his best spot. Also lets not forget the corners have some freedom in this scheme so alot of off coverage im sure they chose to do based on the WR they were facing. Also why would you play press when you have your best coverage safety in the box all day???…. that would be asking for a big play to happen……. Besides TT any of our other coners are fully capable of playing off as well as they do press if they practice at it.

2) Safeties
You say Antrel Rolle is best suited for deep coverage and i agree to a certain extent because it seems as though he is just as profficient in line of scrimmage play making as well. KP was so deep because thats where he has always played, even under spags he was super deep, thats because he is known to go side line to side line in a short period of time, so they actually had him back playing to his strength but his knee like most 1st year post op people just wasnt where it needed to be yet.

3) Justin Tuck in coverage
Now this is my biggest issue with Giant fans, come back to reality and realize that every DE in the league drops into coverage at one point or another, you have to break the cycle, it just is what it is. As for the play in GB why do some many people act as if the perfect defensive play wasnt called?, why do we act like JT didnt do a good job in coverage??…..KP simply misjudged the ball, the play was not flawed at all, the timing of the safety was and that is on Kenny.

All in all, you say play our players to their strengths but i think Fewell did the smart thing and he found out WHAT ELSE his players can do, as for everything else, it will come in due time, 7th overall and leading the league in takeaways in the first year of a scheme with new players is nothing to sneeze at at all……can we do better?? yes but i see it more as a time thing not a scheme and strengths thing.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

First year

Yes, Blue I understand that. I thought I was clear in saying as much. I am hoping that familiarity beings improvement in how he uses some of these guys. Of course what the Giants did in 2010 is nothing to sneeze at. I think, though, they can be dominant instead of just ‘good.’

by Ed Valentine on Jun 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with you

and i also see where you are coming from and respect it.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 15, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe DE's have to drop back every now and then

but lets try to make those rare occasions not be in the 2nd half of an Eagle game!

by Shaunthegiant on Jun 15, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree lol

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 16, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

in it's most basic form ya nailed it, Ed

Learn your players and their strengths the first year, now implement and tailor a game plan that maximizes the strong points of what your guys can do within the basic structure of your scheme.

If Fewell goes this route, not only will they be a very intimidating unit, but Perry should be considered to replace Coughlin.

Of course that is if there is a season.

by Flynner on Jun 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Strengths are a result of past structure

If you have only been asked to play press in the past then the perception becomes that you can only play press it does not mean that you cant play off just as good or vice versa, challenging your players to create new strengths is even more key in todays NFL especially if they have the physical and mental gifts to do so.

I think Fewell did the right thing by asking his players to be as multiple as his scheme is, now when opposing coaches try to go at a particular weakness it becomes more difficult. I see your point all the way Flynner but i just feel he is trying to make these guys better all around players and i think the fruits of his labor come to fruition nxt year. However, this strike may take away from some of the learning but we are in great shape if you ask me.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Jun 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

forcing them to excell...

in areas of weakness is essential to be great. But there are limitations to every player. Asking (just hypotheticals here) Ross to stuff runningbacks or Sintim to cover a wideout may happen on occasion, and so they need to be capable. But In my opinion those guys are better utilized doing what they do best, regardless of what the offense is thinking.

Now that Fewell has had a year to look at the strenghts and weaknesses of each player under his control, I feel the onus should be on him to adjust his scheme to best utilize the skill set available to him on any given down. The inconsistencies were something we all expected last season, call it growing pains. But now that he’s in year 2 some of that inconsistency should go away, as Perry learns that guys like Rolle are better suited to take care of one aspect of a play, thus using someone else to cover up where Rolle would be more comprimised.

Thus scheming to his player’s strength, and disguising the weakness… this is what made Spags so F’n good.

Of course that is if there is a season.

by Flynner on Jun 15, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross, Kiwi and Bruce Johnson's injuries kinda handcuffed Fewell

The Elephant package with Kiwi looked incredibly efficient

3 safeties, because Grant was better than Ross as much as the LB

I agree with the sentiments above, the pass rush has to be able to step up more consistently on passing downs. That will give Fewell the freedom to press, zone blitz or go straight cover 2.

Good news, forgetting Kiwi and Ross who never seem to stay completely healthy, Prince and the 2 young DTs should give Fewell the pieces to be more aggressive and more consistent

by trueblue63 on Jun 15, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd corner....

PF has no more excuses for what his Nickel package should look like

NONE. injuries not withstanding *knocks really hard on wood

at the same time….Spags was able to make due w/ Gibril Wilson, James Butler, Michael Johnson, and Kevin Dockery….

he was also pluggins in LBs (during the playoffs mind you) like Gerris Wilkinson.

I just think Fewell’s consistenty issues are largely HIS own damn fault.

from what i can see out there, his “Base D” is anything but a Base D…..it encompasses just about every aspect of every NFL defense….and than it changes on the next play….or next quarter….or next half….and than than changes the following week!

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm
from what i can see out there, his "Base D" is anything but a Base D…..it encompasses just about every aspect of every NFL defense….and than it changes on the next play….or next quarter….or next half….and than than changes the following week!

the multi-look defense is a tenant of the NFL defense nowadays. Spags used multiple substitutions all the time, and just look at what Rex & Rob Ryan do on defense. A good defense has to be adaptable and unpredictable by necessity. Offenses are so freakin’ protected by the rules that if a defense tried to line up in a base 43 or 34 and punch the O in the mouth, they’d look like fools.

Wanna see what a “base” vanilla defense looks like in today’s NFL? Watch the Falcons/eagles game from last year. Then watch the first half of the 2nd Giants/eagles game from last year… see the difference?

by Raptor22 on Jun 15, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

jack of all trades....

but master of none

works against teams that are .500

doesn’t work against the upper echelon teams and QBs.

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This defense was actually very good last year

It created the most TOs in the league, and we were top 5 in sacks I believe. It was the offense that coughed the ball up 40 some times. Cut that number in half and we are in the playoffs. Adding two top 15 talents to the defense should help out alot.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jun 15, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

And I think we are going to build on those forced TO and sack #'s,Wang...big time!

All PF’s teams were top INT teams and we have a better DL and alot of untapped potential in the secondary.

by Shaunthegiant on Jun 15, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

go look at last years Turnovers....

PF can thank his Dline and more importantly his DE’s for getting an insane amount of FF

now look at INTs….

I’ll let you form your own conclussions from there

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya Andi

I can’t see how the DB’s don’t pick up some of the slack this year..KP back to normal and ‘Trel out there ballhawkin’ instead of playing SAM..that’ll do it right there..plus get TT inside and Price startin’ outside as soon as he’s ready..it’s on!

by Shaunthegiant on Jun 15, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you hit the nail on the head

and that’s why I think the addition of Prince will be huge.

FIX IT

by andiamo708 on Jun 15, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

PF's main problem is....

 Mid-game adjustments. Rex Grossman and John Kitna looked like Pro bowlers against us. Im not even gonna mention the silly game plan against Peyton Manning. I feel like when people have him figured out he doesnt know what to do. Im not saying he is a bad coordinator because i would be lying. He did everything well outside of adjustments. I think we will be much better on defense this year. I just hope he is able to adjust better.

Im as REAL as it gets. Even when it comes to my own team!

by Real_McCoy on Jun 15, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn that Indy game

I cannot explain that.

this is what it sounds like when the birds cry

by pataroons on Jun 15, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually I can explain it

The Giants thought they could get out to a lead against Indy. Make them play from behind, the exact opposite happened and Peyton took advantage.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Jun 15, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think everyone is forgetting

that our offense lead the league in turning the ball over therefore our defense was asked to get back on the field more quickly and more often than any other yet it still ranked #7…… let the Fewell talk please come to a hush….. he is a kid in a candy store and i dont have a problem with it at all.

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by Blue Gates on Jun 16, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree for the most part with you Ed besides this

“My issue is that I don’t want to see Antrel Rolle, a guy who is best-suited as a play-making guy when the ball is in the air, hugging the line of scrimmage to play the run and try to chase tight ends. I also don’t want to see Kenny Phillips playing so deep the quarterback needs binoculars to find him — which was too often the case a season ago.”

I’m not completely convinced Rolle is better than KP playing the ball. Rolle has taken some bad angles at times defending the corner even tho KP is guilty of biting on crossing routes sometimes.

I’d also have to disagree with Blue Gates. Even though playing off coverage leads to more turnovers, our corners aren’t best at this. They aren’t charles woodson. In order to get lots ot turnovers playing that technique, you need to have great route recognition skills while also reading the QB in the backfield at the same time. Very few corners in the league can do a combination of both and be successful at it, as most rely on just reading the QB or others prefer to conservatively mirror the receiver and not peak in the backfield. Terrell Thomas’ route regonition is pretty average because he usually breaks on the ball after receivers’ make their cuts and subsequently usually making the tackle after a completion. Corey Webster, I feel, relies too much on reading the backfield when playing off instead of reading the receiver too. Ross can absolutely not be trusted playing off on the outside because he’s really overaggressive and bites on double moves (when he used to play on the outside).

Furthermore, Terrell Thomas when in either press-bail or off-man lacks that intial burst in his breaks to limit separation when receivers get in and out of their cuts. Overall, press coverage fits our corner’s best. T2 is best using his exceptional upper body strength and physicality to press guys and mirror them throughout the route instead of turning and running with them (Because of his lack of burst like i said). Webster is just an obvious, he has very explosive and strong hands and its really hard for receivers to disengage from him at the line of scrimmage. I hope we see more press next year.

by Nfpdawg on Jun 17, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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