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Tom Coughlin Discusses Draft, Lockout, Jay Fund

New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin took time out from his Jay Fund golf tournament Monday morning to chat with 'Boomer & Carton' on WFAN. He covered much of the same territory that he went over last week during a spot with ESPN, but it was still interesting.

One area Coughlin did talk about more in depth was the draft, and the impact of the NFL Lockout on the ability to get rookies ready to play. Those of you who believe Coughlin is an out of touch dinosaur from another era who refuses to play rookies simply on the grounds that they are rookies will want to pay attention.

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First, let's look at Coughlin's take on how the Giants ended up with cornerback Prince Amukamara with the 19th selection of the first round and Marvin Austin with the 52nd overall selection in the second.

"We were excited because two players of very high quality were on the board for us to pick. The only question going in was once the quarterbacks started to go how would they affect the board?" Coughlin said. "If people started taking some of them high it would push some of these players that were rated and evaluated and had such a high ranking down a little bit, and that's basically what happened and so we were able to draft Prince in our spot and move on to get what we thought was two players that were in the top 15 of the draft in the first two rounds."

Coughlin is, rightly, concerned about the lockout affecting a team's ability to prepare rookies to play right away. Take note of the fact that he does address the need for rookies to contribute quickly.

"Obviously if we don't get some early work with our rookies you're going to have to taper things down a little bit because these guys have not had it," Coughlin said.

"You're going to have to realize when in fact this does get settled and they all come together you've not had any opportunity to work with your rookies at all and your conditioning level is another factor. How rapidly do you install? These kids have got to play, they've got to help you now. This is a different game, a different era with regard to that."

The Giants coach did sound enthused by what Amukamara could bring to the Giants.

"Very bright, very sharp but yet he's got that little bit of naive to him, which is a good thing. He's very coachable, he is a physical player, he's well slapped together. They did bring him on what we call the ‘Cowboy' a lot. So he's been brought in blitz, he's a cover [corner], he plays probably best in the press alignment, he's very confident of his ability," Coughlin said.

"A very talented young guy that we're excited to have."

Coughlin was asked about not getting playbooks to rookies when they were allowed to visit the New Meadowlands immediately after the draft.

"What's the young man going to get out of it when he doesn't understand," Coughlin said. "The language is going to strap him right there. He's not going to be able to get too far."

Coughlin, as are coaches around the league, is concerned about the ability to fully prepare a team without the offseason work.

"I know the skeptics out there would say is that really all that important. Well, it is. The concern has to be for the injury cycle, for players being in great shape. Hopefully we will get some kind of resolve and have a little bit of time with our players before training camp," Coughlin said. "Under normal circumstances if you've had a spring you can get a team to play in three weeks. But without having seen a team, without having worked with them what's the level of our team?

The podcast of the full interview is below.

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rehabbing injuries

is the thing i am most worried about are the guys who are rehabbing doing it the right way, are they on pace to be ready i think id feel a little more comfortable about the SS injury if he were at the giants facility with our team doctors going through a set plan of action

welcome Dana Holgorsen, goodbye spread offense

by colinlovestheknicks on May 23, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he is a little self aggrandized regarding the playbooks

Is he the only one that can explain things to rookies?

You mean none of the vets understand the playbook?

Sorry TC, you should have given out the books and let the players help each other. That helps the team and build comraderie. Maybe there is some other hidden reason but right now, I think TC is being old fashioned…again.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on May 23, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Very few teams

Gave playbooks to rookies. I’m not making a big thing of it either way.

by Ed Valentine on May 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

If he’s as talented as they say then having a playbook shouldn’t be life or death.

by Lolmoarpl0x on May 23, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can debate whether to give books but

What set me off was this:

“What’s the young man going to get out of it when he doesn’t understand,” Coughlin said. “The language is going to strap him right there. He’s not going to be able to get too far.”

I.e. my comment that he is not the only source. I am sure there are intelligent and willing persons on the team who can assist the “young men”. I think this is condescending and yes, I am “older” too.

It does not matter to me that the other teams did not, I think we should have.

Regardless of position on books, TCs comment was out of line in my opinion.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on May 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Should have been a reply to Ed's reply.

I am very poor at editing today.

Guess you won’t offer me a job Ed.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on May 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really, Tom?
“These kids have got to play, they’ve got to help you now. This is a different game, a different era with regard to that.”

It’s BEEN a different game for a while now. It’s nice of you to join the party. Hopefully, your reluctance to play young players unless you’re forced to is a thing of the past.

by GhostDini on May 23, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously.

Beaty has been much better at LT than Diehl last season but he’s only played a handful of snaps. Only time he started was out of injury.

I’m glad TC acknolwegdes the importance of rookeis but actually practice what you preach please.

by Lolmoarpl0x on May 23, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

give the young guns some playing time. We still don’t know what we got out of some guys that have been here for 3 years, and Beatty is the best example of this.

Of course that is if there is a season.

by Flynner on May 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beatty

is not a fair example. The guy missed half of last season or more with a broken foot. He wasn’t there.

by Ed Valentine on May 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And,

If there’s an 18 game season, they will cut two pre-season games. i’m expecting lots of sloppy play early on.

by TheGifford on May 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

But

The continuity on this team should be a relative asset compared to our main rivals. So let’s not use that as an excuse next year if things go badly.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on May 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

TC's stand on rookies does seem to be based on more rigid standards than most teams

It seems like he just won’t put someone in a situation where they can’t execute atleast really excellent technique from a positional standpoint and won’t put in guys that don’t know what they are doing to an extent that it jeopardizes the team…it’s a good thing except for the fact that you now have less guys competing for jobs and of course you wish you could take advantage of a guys talent in an atleast situational way.
He did play SS and Nicks as rooks and that worked out well.

by Shaunthegiant on May 23, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

yes he did

And he also knows that it’s a long season, people get injured, and slots open up.

He also knows he has to hold a whole team together mentally for a whole season. The team is loyal to him; people came to his defense when he was under the gun last year.

If he’s going to push the players to stick together through adversity, which is inevitable, the team has to believe in him and believe he’s fair. If he pushes rookies into the rotation before they are ready or before they have earned it, he erodes team morale and unity. It’s not like he’s faced a rebuilding year.

Now, I would like to have seen him give more time to Joseph or maybe even Petrus last year, but I can’t argue his decision making was wrong. Petrus got time when injuries opened things up, and Joseph got more snaps later in the season once he had learned more. JPP got more and more duty as the season progressed and after Kiwi got hurt, and he was very raw to start out, not ready for prime time week 1.

Don’t forget, he gave Dodge the punter job as a rookie and stuck with him, even when arguably he should not have. He invested time and confidence in Dodge and it may yet pay off.

So, who are these rookies who should have seen more prime time but didn’t? They may be out there over the years, I’m not saying they haven’t been. But I’m genuinely asking? And were there other rookies out there last year who should have seen more playing time? Here’s a site with our recent draft classes.

I think the best argument is that he’s slow to give prime time to young players, not necessarily rookies. Sintim and Beckum in their second years come to mind. But it’s also possible they had not earned the snaps based on practice and performance. We don’t really know.

by AJ_in_VA on May 23, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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