Which receivers should we keep?

last spot either Cruz or Thomas

Smith and Jernigan slot and 4… gotta give Smith a one year deal, he’s too damn good to just let him walk. If he comes back healthy later this year or next it will be a widely hated move hear, and one of Reese’s worst calls.

Barden, Hagan, and Clayton would be the other 3. Barden just needs to stay healthy, Hagan is a godd possesion type of guy to mix in, if Jernigan is a little slow in the uptake at the beginning of the season, and a special teams assest. And Clayton will compete for time in the Barden role. If he finds himself comfortable here he could turn huge dividends.

I’m afraid the shortened offseason will force our hand away from Cruz, not enough reps to make any advances past last year. Thomas and Calhoun don’t interest me, although I have been known to be wrong. Hixon can walk and I won’t shead a tear (never forgave the guy for the drop against Philly). And Plax… I’ve been a huge fan of the idea for as long as it has been an idea, however I think it’s a pipe dream (a very pleasant one, but a dream nontheless)

Cruz either gets practice squad’d or he goes on IR again after Tuck throws him across the room for the injury.

SS12 goes on the PUP list and Barden proves his worth. Soon as Smith gets back they cut Hagen

All the rest were only here out of necessity. They have no place here.

1. Smith
2. Nicks
3. Ham
4. Hixon
5. Jernigan
6. Hagan
7. Barden

… that is all.

Hixon = JJ

JJ will most likely be better than his counterpart, and I think it is not a good idea to put them both on our roster. Hixon has shown that he is not reliable on offense, and JJ will probably be more effective than Hixon was at returning. Not to mention JJ will be a better weapon on offense than Hixon, as he has the ability to throw the football and run with the football.

Hagan is not a playmaker and you are essentially downgrading to a lesser Steve Smith with him on the roster. Cruz and Clayton are both the playmaking types and I think we would be better off by having them on the roster rather than Hixon and Hagan…. just sayin

revisit the 53 man roster. My take:

Offense: 27

QB: Eli Manning, Sage Rosenfels (2)

RB: Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs, D.J Ware, Da’Rel Scott, Bear Pascoe (5)

WR: Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Ramses Barden, Jerrel Jernigan, Domenik Hixon, Victor Cruz (7)

TE: Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum (2)

OT: William Beatty, James Brewer, Kareem McKenzie, David Diehl, Shawn Andrews (5)

OG: Mitch Petrus, Chris Snee, Kevin Boothe, Rich Seubert (4)

OC: Shaun O’Hara, Adam Koets (2)

Defense: 23

DE: Jason Pierre-Paul, Osi Umeniyora, Dave Tollefson, Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka (4)

DT: Linval Joseph, Marvin Austin, Rocky Bernard, Chris Canty (4)

LB: Greg Jones, Jonathon Goff, Michael Boley, Phillip Dillard, Clint Sintim, Adrian Tracy (6)

CB: Prince Amukamara, Terrell Thomas, Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Bruce Johnson (5)

S: Antrel Rolle, Kenny Phillips, Tyler Sash, Deon Grant (4)

Speshul Teams: 3

LS: Zak De’Ossie (1)

K: Lawrence Tynes (1)

P: Matt Dodge (1)

…we might as well not throw Plaxico Burress in the mix.

and

…it may be a smart dumb decision to not bring Steve Smith back.

There fixed those for you.

Now, onto who I would keep and who I hope they keep:

1. Nicks (duh)
2. Smith (he wants to be a Giant and the Giants want him to be Eli’s safety net)
3. Ham (duh)
4. Barden (will actually make the field this year and be a major contributor)
5. Jernigan (will supplant Hixon as our returner)
6. Hagan (proved he can fill in as a possession reciever as well as contribute on ST)
7. Thomas (because you said it: “AWESOME special teams guy”)

The perfect blend of height, speed, and playmaking ability

am i literally the only person who likes michael clayton?

i like the first 4 (maybe 5) for actual WR ability, and thomas and hagan are a bright spot on ST, as i remember thomas hammering washingtons returner in the second game, and hagan can be a WR when needed, but i like his ST ability as well

I believe it should be

1. Nicks
2. Manningham
3. Smith
4. Barden
5. Jernigan
6. Hagan
7. Cruz

I see his name on a lot of keeper lists, but in my mind he isn’t worth the spot. We drafted his replacement in Jernigan. He’s coming off of a nasty knee injury. He’s owed way too much money, and has anyone really seen enough outta this guy in the receiver role that makes him (if healthy) better than any of the other options on the board?

1. Nicks
2. Manningham
3. Smith
4. Barden
5. Jernigan
6. Cruz1. Nicks
2. Manningham
3. Smith
4. Barden
5. Jernigan
6. Cruz
7. thomas

1. Hakeem Nicks
2. Mario Manningham
3. Steve Smith
4. Jerrell Jernigan
5. Victor Cruz
6. Ramses Barden
7. Clayton

Personally this is a list of who is our best receivers on a combination of talent and production-wise.

I am not a big fan of Barden. Derek Hagan, Mark Clayton, and arguably even Devin Thomas have been SUPERIOR special team players throughout their careers — a place where Barden has struggled to sniff the field and Coughlin called him out on it in the past. I picked Clayton over all of the other receivers because hes the best on special teams. Barden stays on the team because of his vast potential (solely because of his height) and was still drafted recently and high, so the staff can’t give up on him in theory.

Giants fans who aren’t draftniks have NO idea what they are getting in Jernigan. If you don’t follow college football that much prepare to be dazzled. This is easily the most explosive and naturally talented offensive player we’ve drafted in a long, LONG time. I want to put him higher but he hasn’t done anything on the field yet.

I like Victor Cruz a lot. The man has just absolute rare body control and balance going up for the football. He’s an explosive leaper with solid balance and a decent burst in his routes. Granted he’s not polished and he really struggled getting off press coverage in the preseason, but he has tremendous upside and better than Barden’s if you ask me.

I think the rest is self-explanatory.

=)

1. Nicks
2. Ham (to avoid argument — I think its SS12)
3. Smith
4. Barden (cuz it’s make it / break it time)
5. Jernigan (cannot miss making team as 3rd-rounder)

Everyone in? OK.

Hagan is here for his ST skills. Anyone here would have to replace him on that basis, not on the basis of their receiving potential. Oh, and Coughlin has faith in his receiving potential. Guess who had more than 3 times as many receptions as everybody in consideration right now? Derek Hagan: 24. Next closest? Barden: 5. Clayton had TWO. He was signed off the street to run routes, people. Thomas? ZERO. CRUZ? DNP.

6. Derek Hagan

The Giants are not going to bring in someone new for the 7th spot — they will carry 7. SO you have to look to who they have now as competing for one spot. Consider these guys out of the running:
Todd Watkins is signed to a reserve/futures contract.
Sam Giguere is white. Just kidding. He’s a practice squad guy from the CFL.
Omaha NighthawkMichael Clayton was only signed off the street due to injuries.

That leaves Victor Cruz, Duke Calhoun, and Devin Thomas.

Cruz was signed in 2010 as a UDFA. You only know his named because he torched the Jets preseason. We know nothing about him, really. Duke Calhoun had 1 catch in 7 games. A known unknown.

That leaves us with Devin Thomas. His stat line looks empty until you realize he’s a potential ST beast. He’s young, having been drafted in the 2nd round by the Skins in 2008. He didn’t do much as a WR there but was kept for ST work.

7. Devin Thomas is in the same boat as all these guys — he was only signed when Hedgecock hit the IR. But in limited opportunities he recorded 2 ST tackles and a blocked punt vs. the Skins.

He’s the only guy we know anything about but given the fact that the Giants can’t afford to get worse on ST, IF his performance there is any indication (and 1 game is a piss-poor sample) it’d be him.

Peas and rice we’re debating 7th WRs. What is wrong with me…

Nicks, Ham Smith, Barden, Jernigan.

After that I believe its a crapshoot.

i see a lot of people having hagan and thomas over clayton because of ST. in my opinion clayton is one of the best special team guys in the league, or at least i remember reading that on profootballfocus a long time ago when he was in tampa. i think they are all great special teamers though

That’s what it’s for, right?

Manningham had fewer drops than both Smith and Nicks in 2010. In fact, he had some of the best drop numbers in the entire league while Smith, the beloved around here, had one of the worst drop numbers in the league. Funny. I don’t remember reading seeing people call Smith a “nipplehead” or saying that he needs to learn the playbook or that he’s costing the Giants first downs.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/23/drop-percentage/

Between Jerrel Jernigan, Domenik Hixon, Victor Cruz, Ramses Barden, Derek Hagan, Michael Clayton, Devin Thomas, Duke Calhoun, Plaxico Burress-

I think the decision comes down to Special Teams, Special Teams, and more Special Teams.

Jernigan, Hagan, Thomas all can be quality special teams contributors.
Hixon is coming off an injury, I don’t know his condition, but will bump him down a notch behind Jernigan, Hagan and Thomas.

Not sure what Cruz, Barden, Clayton, or Calhoun have to offer on ST. Anyone have some insight?

I doubt Burress has anything to offer on special teams, or as a WR for that matter.

Anyone want to offer a ranking of the WR’s in terms of ST value?