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2011 NFL Draft, Round 2: Giants Select Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina

The New York Giants took North Carolina defensive tackle Marvin Austin [full profile] with the 52nd pick of the 2011 NFL Draft. Austin is a 6-foot-3, 310-pounder with immense talent. He is a "high-risk, high-reward" player.

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i love

The pick this kid is going to be a beast as long as he has the right attitude and I believe TC knows how to fix his attitude

by g-men_fan on Apr 29, 2011 7:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

PHEW

I thought Martez was gonna go to Philly

by xs0ng on Apr 29, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the pick

I think the LB’s and CB’s get better with better interior linemen. I’m hoping Austin has an attitude and Joseph learns to play. Stops runs and creates pressure on QB’s. Giants “D” was statistically better than what I saw on the field.

by Vin Joyner on Apr 29, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it too

The Giants will be better off drafting for the defense and getting free agents for the O-line. Once the lockout ends, lots of guys will be available. Better off letting a rookie get his feet wet on defense than defending Eli’s blind side.

by Be Driven on Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I thought it wld be Paea but Austin is a beast..we have the leadership to deal with him ! Its a win in my book…Mason foster in the 3rd & I’ll be happy

wake me up at draft time..

by Mr.Williams on Apr 29, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If we get

Foster in the 3rd I’ll go streaking in my neighborhood

by xs0ng on Apr 29, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALL THRU MY NEIGHBORHOOD NAKED

IF WE GET MASON FOSTER, THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE BEST DRAFTS ON PAPER i’VE EVER BEEN A PART OF

by gmen2thebowl on Apr 29, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

light a fire under his ass

and he’ll be fine

Prove me wrong TC.

by Flynner on Apr 29, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what they have to do

with this kid, high risk, high reward type. Did they get value, most definitely…The rest is up to him.

Prove we are wrong, Tom "Medicine Man" Quinn, NOT!

by Great Gatsby on Apr 30, 2011 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

nothing

I hate more in a player coming out of college than this kids profile. I’m not familiar at all with him except for reading about him and watching one clip of him. I’ve read many player profiles that said, “questionable work ethic” and the like, but his is the worst I’ve seen. We very well may have the veteran leadership to keep him in line, but, I don’t want players where you have to try so hard. Doesn’t sound like he loves football or hard work. I’m very worried about this kid.

The draft and who we might get has been posted to death and then back to life. I've lost interest in the draft until the day comes....

by tommy d. on Apr 30, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trouble

Joseph, Austin, Backflip… Young line that will be trouble for years to come.
Yea Baby

The greatest player ever!!!

by terellchewy on Apr 29, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's get

Sturdivant/Foster/Wilson in the 3rd

by xs0ng on Apr 29, 2011 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

lesser non criminal albert haynesworth

cannon and hudson and even boling are on the board

by Shaunthegiant on Apr 29, 2011 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

you have such a way with words

the only thing that can make this better is if you posted it every 5 comments 40 times

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

we are a power running team that cant run the ball because we have all backups on the oline by week 5 because all the old staters are hurt leaving the defense on the field way to much.

by droopy on Apr 29, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if they considered Martez WIlson

It hought they’d consider Wilson there with his speed. I wonder if they did. I’m glad they didn’t reach for an OL like James Brewer or something there.

by EliManCrushing on Apr 29, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

We ignored OL and LB again

Yay

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

not like theres

5 more rounds or anything…

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said that

But you can’t just ignoring the positions until 3rd or 4th round every year, and expect to do well.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

based on the round 1 and 2 picks alone

and our 10-6 record last year, i expect us to do quite well

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened last year? Oh that's right, our O-line fell apart midseason

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not comparable

Four of our five starters on O-line are over age of 30

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

AGAIN

not giving up on Petrus, or Beatty.

Can’t judge draft picks after one or two years. Seriously.

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet last season

some people would have argued against adding to the OL because we had a good, established line. point is you never know. just try to have the best 52 players possible

by kcc444 on Apr 29, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing personal

justing joking about the picking for need concept in general…last year pierre-paul seemed like a luxury, but one or two injuries and we needed him

by kcc444 on Apr 29, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

because weve done so well with the o linemen we pick up late in the draft every year

by droopy on Apr 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the pick.....

But, we came in needing OL and LBS.

Where is that?

I think you draft for the future… So I’m cool with these picks!

by ross_stephen on Apr 29, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW

Lions are about to look realllllll goood real soon

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL.com on Austin
Pick Analysis: Jerry Reese doesn’t get enough credit for his willingness to add talent to positions of strength. Austin is a legitimate first-round talent with the potential to be a dominant interior player in their one-gap scheme. His combination of strength, power and athleticism is off the charts, and he should be a terrific contributor as part of a deep defensive line rotation.

Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...

by Major on Apr 29, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly, another example of BPA

wayy too good of value to pass up at the spot, regardless of positions of need.

Reese said he was going that route before the draft, and he has not disappointed

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the fact

that he’s lazy and a quitter and might just not like football all that much.

The draft and who we might get has been posted to death and then back to life. I've lost interest in the draft until the day comes....

by tommy d. on Apr 30, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

another back up

when most teams look for staters in the first two rounds we look for back ups they most not like eli bacause hes gonna get killed when the o line get hurt again

by droopy on Apr 29, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Again?

The Flyers...Just one more reason to hate Philadelphia.

by Mother Tucker on Apr 29, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

read your post wrong I thought you were talking about Eli getting hurt

O-line will be fine

The Flyers...Just one more reason to hate Philadelphia.

by Mother Tucker on Apr 29, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yawn

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Droopy

Why are you so negative? Be happy we got 2 excellent players and your complaining

by g-men_fan on Apr 29, 2011 8:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess

i would like to see them take someone whose actually gonna start sometime soon

by droopy on Apr 29, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he could start day 1 if he earns it

he’s got the body to play nfl dt. We don’t need to build him up like JPP

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

doubtful

the starters are most likely gonna be canty and bernard

by droopy on Apr 29, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I highly doubt Bernard

will be starting for the giants

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Apr 29, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that too

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Apr 29, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

until Cofield's gone

he’s still a starter.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they would've taken OL

if Wis was there. It’s just that every OL behind him didn’t rate so high on their board. Don’t forget we also have Petrus from last year and he played OK when given the chance.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea Solder (unfortunately) and Wiz were their boys I think

they’re off the board, so go with the highest rated.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eli did not get killed last year

We already have some youth, they just aren’t starters yet

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Apr 29, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

Not really all that happy about this pick, have to wait and see

by Late for Dinner on Apr 29, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm really a fan of what we've done so far

This Defense is gonna do nothing but continue to get better… remember it wasn’t that long ago that the D was very very suspect. Yeah, I know alot of that was due to our coordinator but showing a commitment to making it the strength of the team (the way the Giants should be) makes me a happy camper.

Prove me wrong TC.

by Flynner on Apr 29, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

our CBs are very good, but have shown lapses. Prince was a no brainer IMO at our #19 spot, wouldn’t have minded even trading up for him.

People forget Austin was a potential #1 overall pick before the whole UNC thing, this guy is a REALLY dominant DT and will be a huge part of our DLine for years to come.

I’m ecstatic about our draft picks so far

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

GOOD VALUE,COULD BE A BEAST

nice pick,value over need{ot,olb] if they can keep him motivated,he could be special

by bobby53 on Apr 29, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Good value picks

G/C, LB, RB later. Lnival Joseph?

by lueeluee on Apr 29, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

BPA again

I think Jerry wants to look back and say this was a monster draft for the Giants. I like the “swinging for the fences” attitude. This defense could be dominant.
If I’m a free agent LB, I want to sign with the G-Men, ya know? Who is potentially available?

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Apr 29, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

TULLOCH

arguably the best 4-3 MLB in the draft.

And the Titans took Ayers sooo…. maybe?

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

draft meant free agency, my bad

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

He’d be perfect.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Apr 29, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+ 1000

Top 5 pick at 52 great pick and this kid is a monster

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldnt agree more

2 potential top 5 picks at #19 and #52?

Sign me up please

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im giddy from the 1st 2 rounds

Now perhaps Jerry starts to think about BPA with need in mind

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Dont really like it

and marvin austin is not a top 5 pick, absolutely not. Thats laugable..

I think having character concerns at DT is HUGE. Motor, inconsistency, effort? Sorry, I don’t like it. Paea was much more safer

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

4/1/11: Marvin Austin had a great Pro Day, prompting Mike Mayock to state that he’d be surprised if Austin weren’t picked between 20 and 32.

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why

Watch a team that quits?

by xs0ng on Apr 29, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok now you're just trolling

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys guys guys

Martez Wilson, Quan Sturdivant, and Mason Foster are still on the board!

by xs0ng on Apr 29, 2011 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Great value pix!

These picks are great! i’m sure ol and lb will be addressed.

by scarlet knight on Apr 29, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

dude

go root for the Jets please

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

NFL Scouts know more than you do

by xs0ng on Apr 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

doesnt bring it, inconsistent, immature, dont like it dont like it. and there are concerns he just played hard for an nfl paycheck..

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's

gonna have to play hard to make a lot of money though. Second rders usually make between 500,00-1,000,000

Revis island? Prince's Kingdom!

by espnsucks on Apr 29, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats alot of money to me...

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s see we have two #1s playing corner & one #2 playing corner. We also have a #1 playing free safety
Now we have three #1s playing corner.

Can’t we find DBs in the 3rd,4th,5th,th rounds??
I mean we have been drafting DBs in the 1st round SO MANY TIMES NOW, it’s ridiculous.

by frankiec on Apr 29, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

DBs

is one of the positions where the talent drops off a lot after the 2nd/3rd round.

I can find the Raven’s GM saying that somewhere.

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Apr 29, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez you can't win them all

We tried to take a tackle prospect, trust me, but the Colts jumped us. We took BPA because we didn’t like the OLine prospects where we were, ok. This is the draft. This is what you do in a draft. Did you want Hudson, a GUARD prospect, in the 2nd round? I could see Wilson, but he’s not a great fit for us. Other than 1 inch of height, Austin fits us perfectly as a 3-tech.

by robotoverlord on Apr 29, 2011 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Eli should call up Peyton

And tell him to stop stealing all our tackle prospects.

by CrzyMke on Apr 29, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We weren't going to take a tackle anyway

Beatty will get a chance. Diehl can still play T. So can Andrews.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Giants clearly did their homework and they feel the risk is worth the reward. Marvin Austin has 1st round talent and if he wasn’t suspended this year I think he would have gone in round 1 … Warren Sapp had character issues including failing his drug test at the combine …. I’m not saying Austin will be that good but he’s got ability and the Giants have veterans on that Dline that can help mentor a kid like Austin. I think he’ll also be motivated himself.

by TheBXRepresenta on Apr 29, 2011 8:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Motivated to prove himself*

by TheBXRepresenta on Apr 29, 2011 8:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10000

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the pick. Austin fell this far cuz he’s a nip, not cuz of his talent. If Bro’s gone, so be it. But Austin has the potential to be so much better then him (as does Anvil).

So we got 2 BPAs. One high first round talent and another mid-first round talent.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

lmao

Revis island? Prince's Kingdom!

by espnsucks on Apr 29, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA!

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mean

I fuckin love it.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Apr 29, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Castonzo got abused

Who picked him again?

Red stripe, blue paint, them other teams scared but Big Blue ain't.

Our Giants who art in the New Giants Stadium,
hallowed be thy name.
No Three and Outs.
Thy defense Stout.
On earth or if we must in a dome.
Give us on Sunday our weekly Dubya,
and forgive us our turnovers,
as we take advantage of those who turnover against us,
and lead us not into a losing season,
but deliver us a fourth Super Bowl title.
To Eli we pray.
Amen.

^ Yeah, I believe we should all have this as part of our sig, which is why I stole it. :)

by EnWhySee on Apr 30, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

not us

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 30, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

He might also be a steal for the giants

If he plays up to his potential…….Reese compares him to Keith Hamilton, so i give this pick A

by Jermal on Apr 29, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

he dropped the Hammer in there?

uh oh.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you say VALUUUUUE!

top 10-13 at 19 and first round talent i the second half of the second round,CRAZY VALUUUUUUUE!

by gmen2thebowl on Apr 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Go away

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

While everyone is celebarting over a boom or bust pick, we still dont have a LB or OL drafted, right?

I’d cool it, people here are making austin a bigger deal than he is imo. too much for a risk, damn. im really disappointed, but prince will bring me in a good mood =)

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like a better idea then spending a token pick on a LB or OL just to "address" a perceived need

who says any OL wouldn’t be a boom or bust? LB?

All I know is Austin is a better player then those available.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martez Wilson and Rodney Hudson were still available dude

austin is the better player but has the higher bust rate

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson has a much higher bust rate considering he's tiny

I like Wilson and wouldn’t have been upset with the pick at all. Just not upset with Austin either.

Austin is MUCH safer then Wilson and Hudson, however. MUCH safer.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what does that tell you?

It tells you that the Giants did not have either of them graded as highly as they had Austin graded, and that they think they can get players at those positions later. Marvin Austin is a first round talent, Wilson and Hudson are not. Austin might bust, but he might be a 10-time All-Pro. We just have to want and see how it works out.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 29, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually I'd say he was the safest pick avaiable there

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised that wasn't as obvious as it is

not the writing for FSU’s blog, I had no idea..the idea that Hudson is tiny.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rodney Hudson needs to be in a ZBS.

The Giants are a predominately down-hill power running team. Hudson + Giants would never work anyway.

"Oh, that. I just do that for the extra money, and to satisfy my male need to kill and win." - Charlie Sheen

by Dennis Ming Shi Ma on Apr 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arkansas ran zone?

I thought they ran a lot of traditional power sets; I saw a lot of I-formation this year from them.

"Oh, that. I just do that for the extra money, and to satisfy my male need to kill and win." - Charlie Sheen

by Dennis Ming Shi Ma on Apr 29, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Petrus pulled a lot

but they did run a lot of pro-style stuff. Or at least Giants-style stuff.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know what Arkansas run

Just reminding everyone that we have a young G from last draft

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. im not trying to brag or anything

I’m just pointing out that i’ve seen every game he’s played in and im completely biased pro-fsu and even I acknowledge that Hudson wont fit here.

He’s a great player with fantastic technique and FSU coaches and fans love him but his combine weight is no where near his game weight.

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I keep saying this. You don’t go into the 2nd round and say “we have to have a center” so you take a center despite the fact there are other players on the board you think are better. It’s not like the Giants will play w/10 guys if they don’t get one.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 29, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus, it's not like madden

you dont draft the top rated C because he’s there, players need to fit into your scheme

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

they develop their youngins at all positions too

did it with Koets and they’re doing it with Petrus as well.

And I don’t think Beatty is any worse then the available tackles for the Giants from where they picked in round one and beyond.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea I never liked this OT class

and while I like some of the interior OLs, the Giants have shown that they can get away with random players in the middle.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

next year should be better

unless the site’s i’ve looked at have shallow analysis of 2012

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's like

a lazy Haynseworth

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks a wee bit more active on film.

I mean, I’ve watched him chase down plays down field (screens, swing passes) with plenty of hustle. I think he’ll be fine, especially if he plays in a rotation.

"Oh, that. I just do that for the extra money, and to satisfy my male need to kill and win." - Charlie Sheen

by Dennis Ming Shi Ma on Apr 29, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i'm just kidding,

I love the Austin pick actually. Teams are gonna watch him break their QBs spines and wonder how they passed on him as da Fresh Prince picks up the resulting wobbler

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole UNC fiasco makes me nervous, agreed.

But he just needs to be motivated… and getting picked in the 2nd round could the best thing for him. This guy seems to have a chip the size of a fissure in his shoulder.

"Oh, that. I just do that for the extra money, and to satisfy my male need to kill and win." - Charlie Sheen

by Dennis Ming Shi Ma on Apr 29, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

20 year old kids are dumb

think of what you did at 20 and its easier to justify the lack of common sense

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone does something stupid in their lives

especially in college…isnt that kinda what college is for anyways…

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Apr 29, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not get so crazy

that we can’t be objective. And for everyone who is trashing commenters only for disliking the pick…well that’s why people are here — to voice their opinions. Ideally they do it in a civilized manner. Yes Reese knows more than we do, but if we’re just going to assume every move he makes is the right one, just cause he does this professionally, we’re deluding ourselves.

Personally, I trust Reese, and I hope he’s right. But Austin’s game tape is pretty pathetic.

by Bino41 on Apr 29, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, "pathetic" was too stong, but...

he looks like a great athlete who can’t seem to find the ball much. Although he is double-teamed a fair amount. I REALLY hope he produces!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIC4VU2N50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnPgj4m-GMQ&feature=related

On the other hand, it looks like he had some pretty nice contributions against BC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTEfRNfqaF8

by Bino41 on Apr 30, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that whole UNC defense underperformed pretty hard.

Considering the amount of NFL size and speed it had.

"Oh, that. I just do that for the extra money, and to satisfy my male need to kill and win." - Charlie Sheen

by Dennis Ming Shi Ma on Apr 29, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, people are acting like hes a "10 year all-pro" as it IS

That’s wrong, he has the POTENTIAL to be a 10-year all pro, he doesnt play like that on the field. He shows flashes of it but is inconsistent overall and gets blown off the ball quite often. He’s been a career underachiever who has a history of not bringing it every down on the field.

His suspension isn’t the ONLY thing bad about him

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else noticing

that LBs keep coming off the board, but not the guys we want, guys “ranked” below them? Not saying anything, just noticing….

by TNYFBG on Apr 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, little weird

I keep seeing LBzez that I wouldn’t want in the 6th round coming off the board.

Oh well…more for us.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greg Jones, while small,

another guy that was a first rounder a year ago. 4 year starter with an insane number of tackles.

wouldnt mind him at all

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's really fallen

i remember when a lot of scouts had him in the early second and the top ilb

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was saying last year how we needed a real 3 tech

The way we had to blitz to get to the QB makes me think that the Giants think the same way.

nobody else on the roster is a 3 tech

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Or we can just dial up NASCAR and watch QB's soil themselves.

I mean, why do you think we have Justin Tuck? Haha.

"Oh, that. I just do that for the extra money, and to satisfy my male need to kill and win." - Charlie Sheen

by Dennis Ming Shi Ma on Apr 29, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

that pussy cat doll chick is allowed to cover led zeppelin?

that should be against the law

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

+1969

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Apr 29, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like im going to spend the next few hours arguing about austin

hes not a top 10 talent who got suspended and fell.

no, hes was a potential top 20 talent who has underachieved, played with a poor motor, and is very inconsistent who has proven to be immature off the field combined with bad interivews caused him to get eliminated off boards and fell in the draft.

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

well even if he's just a top 32 talent

getting him at #52 is pretty good.

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that i can agree with

i just dont like how everyone is already saying hes a steal and going to be a beast. great value but is a total and complete question mark in my view

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone's a questionmark

its a great value and a good fit. Really hard not to like

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

18-22 year olds generally are inconsistent and immature

we can afford a poor character risk here and there. It’s when you ignore character completely that it becomes a problem.

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you also ignore motor, effort, and inconsistency?

COMBINED with immaturity? I just can’t, i just can’t

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

correctable problems are worth taking

for his upside. If it doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out, but he could be an all-pro DT. Taking smart risks like this makes sense. If it pays off it pays off bigtime.

by B-rod24 on Apr 29, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay so with picks 1 and 2 in the books, whether you like them or not,

who you guys got round 3?

We could use OL, but still some great LBs. I like Greg Jones here. Also wouldnt be too upset with Herzlich

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Herzlich

Can be had in the 4th

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

youre right, he probably could,

but I love this kid. I think he’s going to play like a top-round talent, and would hate to miss him

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like it

More tomorrow but I don’t like it.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Apr 29, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

he's a Patriot haha

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by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah

but is he just lazy or a drinker or what, they said off the field stuff

by DukBudr on Apr 29, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he sniffs yayo and smokes weed

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

just like Natalie Portman

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by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seahawks love reaching for average lineman

tho I bet some of the “Draft teh OLzez” people would love getting Moffit and Carpenter

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh too bad Will Rackley just went,

THAT would’ve been a pick I’d have been pretty okay with

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very pleased.

But, I don’t speak for all of us.

by Mykey24 on Apr 29, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

A

hard to argue with the value.

they haven’t addressed a perceived need yet, but considering what was on the board they didn’t exactly pass up anything.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true 44

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A - you can't turn chicken shit into chicken salad

Giants taking most talented players, not like they had All Pro Corners or DTs

A lesser player at a need position is still a lesser player

by trueblue63 on Apr 29, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Brock Lesnar.

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

A+

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Rec

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

yessir

Revis island? Prince's Kingdom!

by espnsucks on Apr 29, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

grabbing foster here

would make for an A++ draft so far in my books

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

aww yeah

game time fellas

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

WR

UGHHHHHHHH

Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre

by King Henry the 2nd on Apr 29, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF!

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

woahhhhhhhh

rorsch called it

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerrel Jernigan

Nowadays everybody wanna talk, like they got something to say, but nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish and motherfu****s act like they forgot about Dre

by King Henry the 2nd on Apr 29, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

wow..it was Jernigan

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Another WR...

Do we only draft positions where we’re already stacked?

by Snowmanrt on Apr 29, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That tells you

Maybe they don’t think they are stacked … and maybe they are worried about Steve Smith.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I said up top… maybe worried about Smith.

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I believe in the Church of Baseball.
- Annie Savoy

You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr

by Frank Campagnola on Apr 29, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worried about Steve Smith?

Contributing writer for Pinstripe Alley.

I believe in the Church of Baseball.
- Annie Savoy

You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr

by Frank Campagnola on Apr 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Return Specialists.

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd round return specialist?

Contributing writer for Pinstripe Alley.

I believe in the Church of Baseball.
- Annie Savoy

You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr

by Frank Campagnola on Apr 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not 5'9"

185 pounds…

If they didn’t draft him to return kicks, than idk wtf they’re doing.

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that, but personally, I’d rather not use a 3rd rounder on a return man.

Contributing writer for Pinstripe Alley.

I believe in the Church of Baseball.
- Annie Savoy

You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr

by Frank Campagnola on Apr 29, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

gonna be a lot of touchbacks anyway

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- Annie Savoy

You go through The Sporting News for the last 100 years, and you will find two things are always true. You never have enough pitching, and nobody ever made money.
- Donald Fehr

by Frank Campagnola on Apr 29, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Jerry. Just keep on pretending O-line and LB don't matter

and the team will keep failing on the field.

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

NOOOOOO

there goes foster…

I see Blue, he looks glorious!

by RealLT on Apr 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerrel Jernigan...

Sinorice Moss all over again

by Pinke on Apr 29, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah

We traded up to get Sinorice didn’t we

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

in the 2nd

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah,

I was just looking at the similarities, both 5ft 8 receivers, both won’t (and in Sinorice’s case, didn’t) see the field, and both were a waste of a pick

by Pinke on Apr 29, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

but its just kinda hard to see where the guy fits in. Nicks, Smith (maybe), Manningham, Barden, Cruz. Sure he can be a return specialist, but after the rule changes those aren’t really needed as much, just seems like a wasted pick. Not to mention the guy is 5 ft 8 without the speed that Moss had. What makes you think Coughlin gonna put this guy on the field when he wouldn’t put Moss on?

by Pinke on Apr 29, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah .....

that pick makes me want to puke

by DmaninBlue on Apr 29, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

who the hell is Jerrel jernigan!?

And this was going soooo well. And with Foster and Cannon on the board!!!

by NortheastKingdom on Apr 29, 2011 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED FOSTER

Extremely pissed. What freaking linebackers in the draft are left? None! Besides herzlich! LOL

by Nfpdawg on Apr 29, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

For no good reason

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you know?

They’ve not played in the regular season yet?

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sintim's gotten extensive playing time, and has done nothing

We better go after impact LBs in FA

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he hasn't.

He had a few snaps in 2009…and that was it

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess it's another year of our D-line having to play out of it's mind

just to hide horrible LB core

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

ill take herzlich

but rlly foster would of been very nice maybe they will trade up to get one of them……. i like the explosive player though to addd to the offense but idk

by BigBlue91 on Apr 29, 2011 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a fan of this pick at all

Kickoffs moved back so returns might be few and none so He is small and 5ft 9 wtf

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

not terrible but foster i like more but at least its another option for eli and gives us a different look….. will he ever be given time behind our wrs, smith nicks, mannignham, barden and others???

by BigBlue91 on Apr 29, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

FA

Is where we get an impact LB. JR has already said we will pounce when FA starts, and I guarantee we target a good LB now.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Apr 29, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

then idc

then im fine with not taking a lb we dont need 3 we got boley who is servicebale and goff too behind our d-line we just need 1 more..

by BigBlue91 on Apr 29, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be nice if we didn't just settle for mediocrity at LB for once

There is no hope.... there is no future....there is only GRISSIONZ

The 2011 Mets- Rock bottom: We haven't reached it yet

by Syler on Apr 29, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's called FA

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Apr 29, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

why...

do u hate on the giants.

by BigBlue91 on Apr 29, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Get used to it bud...

No one hates on the Giants more than Giants fans…for better or worse

I don't always hope for draft picks, but when I do, I prefer Owen Marecic.

by tito (eight and oh) on Apr 29, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry must REALLY believe in Sintim.....

and Dillard, and Adrian Tracy. Special teams were so bad that perhaps this is an answer that area.

by Vin Joyner on Apr 29, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

If this is staying true to his draft board than I am fine with it…. If he just pooped up and said, F it, lets take this JJ kid then we have a problem…… Its called having a strong constitution…. just because you perceive something as a need doesn’t mean they view it the same way….

by njsoldier1978 on Apr 29, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

i mean i do too a lil

but rlly come on i just hate the coaches not the players haha

by BigBlue91 on Apr 29, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Jernigan
Jernigan is flat-out a playmaker who has the ability to make an immediate impact as a return man at the next level. He has excellent speed to stretch the field and the hip fluidity to maintain momentum in transition and separate out of his breaks. He lacks the size to be a No. 1 receiver in the NFL, but he is a slippery runner in the open field after the catch and projects to be a weapon in the slot. He has a chance to be a second-rounder.

Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...

by Major on Apr 29, 2011 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

what player?

Freedom is a road seldom traveled by the multitudes...

by Major on Apr 29, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manningham?

sounds like him to me, albeit smaller

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Apr 29, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed, i know you said be respectful, and i am trying, but it seems like someone needs a hall pass, a happy ending…. or something

by njsoldier1978 on Apr 29, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Lot of complainers on the board about the giants draft.

Theres a reason we’re not GM’s people. I mean, I don’t individually scout players out so I would never sit there and bash a pick considering I’m sure the management have done their due diligence on each player. Have some faith. There are always quality picks in the 3rd, 4th, 5th rounds. In Reese we trust.

You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.

by mikefromVA on Apr 29, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

But Seriously....

People are bringing up the 2009 Draft and say that Nicks is the only productive player…. even if i agreed with that statement, which i don’t… What LB would you have the NYG take that was effective with any of our non first round picks….we took Sintim in the 2nd, and i am more than curious who you are mad that we passed up….

by njsoldier1978 on Apr 29, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see who they passed up, anywhere

Maybe Martez Wilson in the 2nd. Maybe Mason Foster in the 3rd.

More so Foster in the 3rd. But while I like them, not so hung up on in that it needs to be portrayed on who we did pick and what they bring to the team.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt even get to this year...

I wanted to find the logic in the spread of vitriol towards the front office…they do a damn good job year in year out of finding good players for the team… depth is good at most positions… you can’t predict injuries, and even so, the replacements did more than their share… if anything we rushed a few O Linemen back a little too early….

by njsoldier1978 on Apr 29, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

some people just like to complain...

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 29, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009 draft was not very good

I’m not seeing many good players that got drafted in the later rounds. Especially not LB’s.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009 was brutal

Several of the first 100 picks are already out of football. At least Jerry connected with Hakeen Nicks.

by Be Driven on Apr 29, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well If SS12

Is not gonna be ready this kid plays the slot and he seems to be a take it to the house kind of guy if you miss the tackle so thats nice if SS12 does come back he still is a great return guy. The Mcluster comparison is encouraging so I will trust Jerry knows a hell of alot more then me so I will concede to the experts on this pick. In short I like This pick book it.

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Apr 29, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

thank the football gods we have prince

World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.

by Drizzzy on Apr 29, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

according to BSPN, it was more significant that the Bears took Paeua than Giants and Austin

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 30, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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