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New York Giants' Draft Busts: No. 3 ... Derek Brown

By 1992, Mark Bavaro was a memory to the New York Giants. He had retired, then un-retired and came back to play for the Cleveland Browns. The bruising Bavaro had shown the Giants what a great tight end could mean to an offense, and the Giants wanted to re-capture that in the worst way.

So, with the 14th selection of the first round in 1992 the Giants took Notre Dame tight end Derek Brown. Mistake. In his book, 'New York Giants Book Of Lists,' Ken Palmer said "The Giants were desperate for a tight end; selecting Brown first in 1992 did nothing to change that."

Brown caught just 11 passes in three seasons with New York, then moved on to Oakland and Jacksonville before finishing an undistinguished career with a total of 43 receptions over six seasons. He is No. 3 on our list of worst Giants' No. 1 draft picks since 1960.

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I really liked this pick at the time. Makes me question my whole self worth thinking about it now.

by TheGifford on Apr 13, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

little history

Another fun exercise, Ed.

The NFL has had 75 official drafts, to date. The Giants have consistently failed to take advantage of the first round opportunities afforded to them in those 75 years. But they have excelled in later rounds. Brown, Stroud and Weitecka in ’;53, Huff and Chandler in ’56, Tunnel in ’48 ( a walk-on), all the way up to Kelley and Van Pelt in ’73, Armstead and Strahan in ’93, Barber in ’97 and so on.

(As an aside, Sam Deluca, a lineman with the Jets and other teams, locally grown, as they say, and a long time announcer for the Jets was the Giants first pick in ’57, though it was the second round ( they traded their first to Rams for Robostelli in ’56, and as I mentioned last year, the Rams used that pick for Del Shofner!)

Their best pick before Kyle Rote in 1951 was George Connor from Notre Dame, a Hall of Fame defensive player- for the BEARS, of all teams. Love to know how that happened- he never played with the Giants ( drafted in either ’46 or ’47).

Rote was a bonus pick, which was established as a special pick each year for about 10 years, and then there was Gifford, drafted in ’52 as a defensive back. Nobody worth spit after that, really until Fred Dryer in ’69.

 Some might argue that Phil King in ’58,. as a #1, contributed- he played at least 6 years and was almost always a back-up.

Their best pick ever, aside from Taylor, may well have been Lou Cordileone in 1960, local boy, a guard, who came out of Clemson. Why was he so great? Never heard of him? He was traded straight up prior to the ’61 season for YA Tittle- certainly a worthwhile pick, after all.

A couple of participants on this site have mentioned that those awful picks in ’71 and ’72 were under Robostelli. I think not. He came aboard for 5 years as the first real GM for the team ( I think Wellington Mara did it before, and Steve Owens before that) after ’72 and Troy Archer , Gary Jeter, George Martin, Harry Carson are among his choices.

But you could check that. I tried and came up empty.

I hope Francis Peay and John Hicks get mentioned.

On Derek Brown, the #3 worst- he runs nose to nose in ability with the Jets #1 pick that year, another tight end, Johnny MItchell from Nebraska. Funny coincidence.

Anyway, thanks for opening the door, Ed. Sorry to take so long.

by grange77 on Apr 13, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

First round

I thought about Peay, and I also thought about Hicks. Hard to mention Hicks since he won offensive rookie of the year, though he never was what the Giants hoped. Like I said when I started this, the hardest part of the whole exercise was paring the list to 10 — never mind what order, that’s subjective. There are several picks I could have included in the list.
We will get to the ‘best 10’ next week.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 13, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right about Hicks

I forgot his rookie year- the point is, as you mentioned when you started, there are a lot from which to choose and that’s a bad thing.

by grange77 on Apr 13, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone

on BBV actually attend any of his games and witness one of Brown’s receptions – so they can say I was there and saw catch no 5?

by G Fan in England on Apr 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

This was a pick that was supposed to work!

His college play gave zero indication that he’d be anywhere near a bust. I was happy we drafted him and not Johnny Mitchell, Derek Brown was the goods. Gotdamn this was supposed to work!

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Apr 13, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

1992 was a very bad year for the Giants and 1st round picks

Not only did we draft Derek Brown but we drafted Dave Brown too OMG!

by Late for Dinner on Apr 13, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Two D Browns

in one year……

Maybe they switched jersies and positions and no one noticed

by G Fan in England on Apr 13, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well at least we drafted Hammer in the 4th round that year

Giants not only drafted two D Brown’s they also started their Cory collection too that year

by Late for Dinner on Apr 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching the higlight films of Derek Brown @ Notre Dame prior to the draft
should have thrown up all sorts of flags. Seeing him catch the ball & then
run with it afterwards was a joke. He ran like an offensive tackle-no speed,
no balance, no moves. Ofr course now no one will believe me, but you
shouldhave seen the highlight films of Derek Brown-down right embarassing.

by frankiec on Apr 13, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Just guessing the last two

Tucker Fredrickson and Joe Don Looney (was listening to Bob Papa and his meat head cohost this morning).

Two picks that in the era of non-free agency probably contributed to the dark ages as much as anything (I’m going by stats, I’m clinging to my 20’s)

I’d say then two guys I would have dropped in here, not necessarily above the Fredrickson or Looney, are Tyrone Wheatley and Eric Dorsey.

Wheatley is the worst kind of bust, the one that goes on to success with another team. Dorsey, according to the NFL.com page, has significantly worse stats (no tackles?) than Willie Jo and was drafted six slots higher.

by Danny332 on Apr 13, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Joe Don Looney and Rocky Thompson

JDL was uncooperative and unmanageable; the Giants gave up on him and traded him before the end of his rookie training camp.
Rocky Thompson was a world class sprinter who never really made the transition to football player. The Giants used him primarily as a kickoff returner in 1971 and 1972, dressed him for only one game in 1973, then released him. I have yet to find anyone who could explain what the Giants saw in Thompson that justified a #1 pick. Worse, they passed up Jack Tatum, Jack Youngblood, Dan Dierdorf, and Jack Ham to do so.
Tucker Frederickson made the Pro Bowl as a rookie, justifying his first-round selection, before he ripped up both knees. He was a good pick with bad luck; Looney and Thompson were spectacularly bad picks.

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Apr 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fredrickson wasnt a good pick with Butkus and Sayers on the board

Especially since he was already damaged goods. Rookie of the year? He may have won the award, but he wasn’t the best player, he was just the best white player, not named Butkus. Or do 22 TDs count less in Chicago?

And both were huge stars in college.

But if TF stayed healthy, he probably would have been a good grinder.

by trueblue63 on Apr 14, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other notables from the 1992 Draft

Darren Woodson, db, 2nd Rd
Levon Kirkland, LB/DE, 2nd Rd, this guy was a freak of nature
Jason Hanson, K, 2nd Rd
Joel Steed, DT, 3rd Rd
Mark Chmura, TE, 6th Rd
Brad Johnson, QB, 9th Rd

by John W on Apr 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

If those are all the best notables

what a crappy overall draft.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Apr 13, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

imagine watching college ball that year. ugh

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by Simms-McConkey on Apr 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhhhh, Bavaro

Best tight end ever, if only for a few years. Maybe my favorite all time Giant

by NortheastKingdom on Apr 13, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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