2011 NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina
How NFL teams view North Carolina outside linebacker Bruce Carter will be one of the most interesting things to watch as the 2011 NFL Draft process unfolds. Carter was considered by many to be a sure top 10 pick in this April's draft before suffering a torn ACL in his left knee.
Before the injury Carter was an immensely gifted, athletic, play-making linebacker. Whether or not that athleticism, which is what had scouts and general managers drooling over him, will be compromised is the question. Carter has an invitation to the NFL Scouting Combine later this month, but he just had reconstructive surgery on the knee in mid-December.
Mocking The Draft speculated in December that Carter could fall all the way to the third round. That would not be surprising, especially since it doesn't seem likely that Carter will be healthy enough by the end of this month to work out. So, teams might be heading into the draft in April not really knowing what they are getting in Carter.
Is he worth a third-round gamble? What do you guys think?
Scouting reports after the jump -- all of which are, of course, skewed because of the unknown impact of his injury.
Bruce Carter
OLB, North Carolina (Sr.)
6-foot-4, 235 pounds
Scouting Reports
From CBS Sports:
Possessing a brand of eye-popping pure athleticism reminiscent of former top-10 selections Aaron Curry (No. 4 overall pick in 2009, Seattle Seahawks) and Keith Rivers (No. 9 overall pick in 2008, Cincinnati Bengals), Carter entered the 2010 season among the highest-touted prospects in the country. Unfortunately, a disappointing senior season and late knee injury that required surgery now cloud his draft status. ...
When healthy, Carter is among the most explosive prospects in the 2011 draft. His athleticism has made up for average instincts, making his return from ACL reconstruction surgery critical to his final grade. ...
Underwent ACL reconstruction surgery on his left knee on Dec. 14, 2010 and may not be available to work out for scouts before the draft. Prior to the injury he was recognized as a workout warrior. Reportedly has been timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, and owning a 40.5-inch vertical jump and a 440-pound max bench press, 605-pound squat and a power-clean of 374 pounds. Special teams demon for North Carolina in 2008. Led the country with five blocked kicks, including four punts. Blocked eight kicks for his career.
From Sideline Scouting:
Positives: Good speed... Has good strength for his size, but could stand to add a little weight to frame... Excellent special teams performer, has blocked six kicks in college career... Does good job breaking down feet and getting in position to wrap up when tackling... Plays with pretty good motor, does not take plays off often and always tries to get to the play... Has a lot of experience dropping into zone coverage, does not make a lot of big plays in coverage, but is always quick to get to the ball in the air... Very sound mentally and is an overall fundamental player who rarely makes a big mistake... Hard worker with a lot of potential, always working to improve his game.
Negatives: Timid when diagnosing plays, more concerned with maintaining duties than relying on instincts... Not a heavy hitter, tends to wrap up at the ankles rather than forming up and driving through ball carrier... Must develop more as a pass rusher, gets caught up in blocks at line of scrimmage and can be neutralized easily by stronger offensive linemen... Had reconstructive surgery to repair a torn ACL in mid-December, will likely not be available for the combine or North Carolina's pro day.
From the National Football Post:
One of the more gifted athletes you're going to see at the position. Possesses a long, athletic-looking frame and is at his best when asked to click and close and make plays in pursuit. Showcases great explosion once he locates the football and quickly is able to get from point A to point B. Exhibits impressive length and range when asked to break down and wrap up on contact. ...
The biggest knock on him is his inability to quickly react to the football. Isn't real instinctive, doesn't consistently trust what he sees and rarely gets an early jump on the pass. Puts himself in position to make plays on the football, but is slow to get his head around in the pass game and adjust to the throw.
However, has a real savvy for blocking kicks, is explosive, can cleanly change directions and does a great job dropping his pad level and accelerating after the football. Could have a real impact as a special teams guy early in the career.
Impression: A gifted athlete who has the makings of a starting weakside backer in the NFL. But I do have some questions about his instincts, which could end up holding him back from ever becoming a real impact player at the next level. However, tore his ACL toward the end of the year and is now a major medical risk.
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I know that this kid couldn't fill his shoes....
but I remember that we drafted a LB from UNC back in 81 and he turn out to be an ok backer…..can’t remember that kid’s name, hmmmmm??? My choice for greatest pick in Giants history.
Quinn must go !!
I wonder
How much longer tearing your ACL is really considered an injury that will significantly impact one’s career. The most recent case I can think of (top of my head) of somebody screwing up their knee and never being the same again is Jason Sehorn (or maybe Culpepper). Seems so common nowadays for guys to completely destroy their knees and still be able to return to form. I remember seeing McGahee’s knee go all the way sideways in that college championship game, and thinking “well, there goes that career”. His kind of recovery seems to be the norm now.
As far as Bruce Carter:
" Reportedly has been timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, and owning a 40.5-inch vertical jump and a 440-pound max bench press, 605-pound squat and a power-clean of 374 pounds."
The first thing that comes to mind is, holy hell! I know its very Al Davis to say that, but still. If I was JR I think I’d draft him just to see if he can dunk a medicine ball.
I think they got those numbers from his mother
There is no way he even runs a 4.49.
makes me wonder
what my mom would say about my 40 time
by Oppenheimer919 on Feb 4, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
carters game speed is not really 4.3
just look at sturdivant and carter = carter is a superior athlete to sturdivant, but sturdivant is more instinctive and smarter
thus, sturdivant has superior production and stats and he plays just as fast on the field because of his instincts. Carter’s game speed isn’t 4.3, he’s game speed isn’t any better than sturdivant who is only an above average athlete and will run in the 4.6/7 range
yup.
Wes Welker had a terrible knee injury last year. Came back 100% this year.
If he comes back and tests out fine, that’s a testiment to his work ethic and dedication. I want that sort of player on this team.
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Wes Welker
is a long time NFL vet. He knew his playbook like the back of his hand and these are two of the many differences in this instance. Bruce Carter would be ready to go by lets say mid August if we were on the Welker time table. He would have still missed rookie camp, mini camp, and a good hunk of training camp, essentials for veterans much less rooks. I say his rookie season is a wash. I’d say third round definitely 4th and if he isn’t around then, then hey, we’ve more than likely have already signed (FA) or drafted a few quality players so leave him.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Feb 4, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
as long as he's ready for camp
Its not about how well you know the playbook…Brady knows the playbook and last year coming off the injury he wasn’t as good as this year.
Learning the playbook is one thing. Its all about how hard you work at it. The earlier Carter is cleared that means he worked his ass off like Welker.
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Depending on how messed up his ACL is
I’d go in the 2nd round.
Even so, regardless of whether they draft a LB in the first few rounds, I’d take a flier on him. Too athletic to pass up
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In addition to what Rorschach said, this is my favorite part:
Special teams demon
Ease him into the role, give him some meaningful snaps as he recovers his strength and learns the game. In the meantime, he’d still be useful at an area of extreme weakness.
More concerned about
the questionable instincts than the medical questions. Guys routinely recover from knee surgery but not diagnosing the play quickly negates great athleticism to some degree.
by G-FANinFL on Feb 4, 2011 1:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Carter
Seems like another Akeem Ayers: gifted athlete who doesn’t have the instincts to take advantage of his physical skills. I’m really weary on LBs without good instincts right now because I am beyond tired of seeing a QB scramble for a first down and no one stops him. I want a LB who can sniff that out and make the stop.
The injury is also concerning, but I think he can come back from it. If he’s available in the 3rd he could be an interesting pick up.
So you want Mark Herzlich
want a LB who can sniff that out and make the stop.
Herzlich has great instincts. I hope he gets completely healthy
by EliManCrushing on Feb 4, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Herzlich
Herzlich would be nice, or Mason Foster. Either of those I think would be a great pick up. I realize they might not be as fast, but I want a linebacker who can sniff out the big play before it happens. A guy like Antonio Pierce before he started to really regress physically.
yup!
Couldn’t agree more. Doesn’t matter how fast you are if you don’t know where you’re going. Haven’t seen this guy myself, but what I read about him above is not my idea of which way to go unless he drops to a late round where, if he’s not that good, no big loss.
by NortheastKingdom on Feb 4, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
If he is around late in the draft maybe
Otherwise pass, it takes two years for a player to make it back from that type of injury. Carter’s rookie year is going to be a wash, we need help now.
Disagree about him being a "playmaking LB" Ed
I think his teammate sturdivant is a superior playmaker
Bruce carters stats: 57 tackles, 3 TFL, 2.5 sacks, 1 FF, 1 INT
I’m not impressed. He’s an extremely athletic LB but lacks instincts and the playmaking ability. In my opinion, at the linebacker position instincts are incredibly important. Just look at boley.. a highly athletic LB but doesn’t make enough plays because he doen’t have the instincts and awareness to put himself in a position to do so.
I love bruce carters freak athetlicism but I’d personally pass. Its ok to draft a freak athlete pass rusher because they arent asked to make plays on their instincts and intelligence as much as a LB does.
Boley 2.0
Hyper athletic, but weak at the point of attack. The speed to close, but not the instinct to know where he should be going. Sorry just not a big fan of bringing in another player of that mold.
???
If anyone is Boley 2.0, it’s Akeem Ayers.
Bruce Carter is the exact opposite of Boley. Carter is a thumper alla Clay Matthews.
Rex Ryan... I salute you!
Not according to the above
“Not a heavy hitter, tends to wrap up at the ankles rather than forming up and driving through ball carrier”
“gets caught up in blocks at line of scrimmage and can be neutralized easily by stronger offensive linemen”
these things always need to be taken with a grain of salt
there’s other spots that say the exact opposite. I’ve seen Carter numerous times knock the snot out of whoever he was tackling.
Also a lot of his production has to do with his defense. The UNC D lost a ton of their players and Carter was used more in coverage than normal. Usually he got free roam his soph and junior years. This year he had more responsibility since they didn’t have the playmakers all around.
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ST and pass coverage
Take the guy if he ’s there in 2nd rd. He was a 1st round stud until his injury and like Rorschach says, was put in some unfamiliar roles. That can only help him with the mental part of the game.
Take this guy and let Blackburn go. he can be a ST ace for us right away and get on the field for passing downs until he gets up to speed in the D.
I wouldn't mind if the Giants traded down to take him in the 1st.
He’s going to be a perennial pro bowler… yeah I said it.
Rex Ryan... I salute you!
Pull the trigger
I would take him in the third just for two things: special teams demon and hard worker always looking to improve his game. At least you know the work ethic is there, and it’s not like the Giants couldn’t use him on special teams. Also, didn’t Jesse Armstead suffer two torn ACL’s at Miami? I know he suffered at least one. How did he turn out? He too started out as a special teams demon and then turned out to be an All-Pro linebacker (only difference is Armstead was an 8th round pick. I doubt Carter goes that low). I’m just saying they should take the chance and draft him.
Some team
with a 3-4 is gonna take a chance on this guy. Much more pass rushing, less thinking. Im sure if he can block so many kicks, he can get in the back field.
2nd round
I’d grab him in the middle of the second round, he’s good value there.
I like all of the middle of 2nd round linebacker types
Mason Foster (instinctive and SUPER productive-162 tackles, 14 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, and block punt)
Carter-GREAT athleticism
Herzlich-mean S.O.B.and instinctive (and can really catch the football for a linebacker)
Martez Wilson-Very talented… Could make a good 4-3 OLB
But I don’t love Akeem Ayers
Me like
For all the reasons stated.
Special teams, not that we need any help too.
Later round.
BTW, I don’t know how well he will come back but I do not believe the 4.7 40 time suggested above. That is a guess, not a measurement. May not be 4.39 but from all accounts, has speed. You don’t block punts running like Boothe.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.
definitely worth the gamble
as a unc student watching carter for 3 years, i can say the guy is a total beast, and is AMAZING at blocking kicks. he may have been injured, but i think he’ll come back just fine.
worth a shot
If they can draft Carter in the 3rd Round I say definately go for it. The 2nd Rd may be a stretch but I may even consider it there too
He has the freak athleticism
of Reggie Brown out of Texas A & M drafted by the Lions in the 1st round in the mid 90’s. Reggie’s career was unfortunately cut short due to a neck injury but Bruce will test thru the roof just as Reggie did. But we have seen time and time again where players had every God given talent only to have average instincts for the game. What you tend to get is a player who is MIA for huge chunks of times and will get outsmarted and exploited by smart QB’s. Not saying that this is Bruce’s fate but he must be played in a way to exploit his strengths. With our DL you would think a talent like his would flourish, so I see a 3rd round player who won’t be a go until his sophomore year.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Feb 4, 2011 5:59 PM EST reply actions
So in the 2nd round if
Foster, Herzlich, and Carter are all there who do you guys want? My choice would be Foster. I can’t ignore the through the roof production.
by G-FANinFL on Feb 4, 2011 6:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd go with Foster too
since he’s the least injured of the bunch and probably most ready to play right now. Not for his production which is largely a mirage due to the overall suck of his team.
I’d be fine with Carter too if the leg checks out. Actually I’d expect Carter to be the pick for the Giants in this situation.
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Sounds like he has a tremendous upside
I wouldn’t think he’d go in the first round, maybe second or third. If he had it operated on in December, it’s doubtful he’d play next year. He’s going to need at least a full year of rehab.
Gotta love the ability, and I think he'll recover from the injury...
but the slow reaction knocks him back from my point of view. Maybe the injury is a blessing, for the team that drafts him, as he’ll go in the second or third round rather than the first, which I think is probably a better slotting given the questions of his operating on the next level. I don’t mind the idea of the Giants getting him, the lower round the better, but I don’t see him being an impact player for the 2011 season and we need linebacker help for the hear and now, so if we get him, he shouldn’t be our only move at the LB position.
Even if he busts
Using a 3rd round pick on a guy with top 10 talent isn’t a bad decision. Low risk if it doesn’t work out and extremely high reward if it does.
The Giants need to draft two linebackers in the first 3-4 rounds
1st round: draft down in the first round and pick up an extra pick in the second or third; draft either Carimi, T. Smith, or D. Sherrod (all of whom grade out about the same) or even M. Leshoure
2nd round: draft M. Foster or Casey Matthews or possibly both; maybe S. Wisniewski or K. O’Dowd
3rd round: draft fullback Henry Hynoski, Q. Sturdivant, or B. Carter—if he’s available
4th round: draft a return man such as James Rodgers, Dwayne Harris, or Titus Young or Mark Herzlich—if he’s available; maybe even punter Chas Henry
5th round: one of the return men or Chas Henry
I would rather have Mason Foster, Casey Matthews, and Quan Sturdivant instead of Boley, Goff, and Bullock.
Yes worth a 3rd round gamble
based on reports and after med review.
Forgot to add
I forgot to add LB Colin McCarthy, who should be available in the 3rd or 4th round. And I don’t think the Giants have a 5th round pick.
I also like Ahmad Black, though I don’t know if he would be a priority.
I was thinking of another option: The Giants could move up, draft Von Miller, switch to a 3-4 (which is what Fewell coached in Buffalo), which would then allow Sintim to play the other outside spot; and draft Matthews, Sturdivant, or McCarthy to play the middle. It would also mean Barry Cofield would not be a priority to resign.
And the Giants should sign Nnamdi Asomugha.
From ESPN's
1. Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina Tar Heels
This defense is overflowing with freaks (Mel Kiper thinks so too), but it’s Carter — a three-year starter at OLB who has led the nation with five blocked kicks — who merits top freak status this year. He’s part of the country’s fastest linebacking corps. Carter’s workout numbers are every bit as impressive as his football stats. He has set UNC linebacker records in the power clear (374) and the vertical jump (40.5 inches). The 238-pounder has also been clocked at 4.39 in the 40 and bench-presses 440. Asked which of the testing numbers he’s most proud of, Carter says it’s his power clean, which is tied for tops on the team with DE Robert Quinn and Zach Pianalto. “It measures the explosiveness the most,” said the former high school quarterback. Perhaps the biggest freak quality of all about Carter goes back to this: We got to talking about his eating habits when I interviewed him.
“How strict are you about diet?” I asked.
“Well, not very. I eat a lot of McDonald’s and fast foods, but I do work out real hard.”
“Like how much McDonald’s?”
“Almost every day. I usually get three double cheeseburgers, medium fries, large tea and a six-piece McNuggets. I don’t think eating healthy as far as eating salads and that stuff really works for me.”
Apparently that McFeast does, though.

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