Mel Kiper Mocks Nate Solder To Giants
Oh My God! Stop what you are doing! The earth just stopped rotating, at least for a second. This can only mean that Mel Kiper of ESPN has released the latest version of his 2011 NFL Mock Draft.
All we care about here is who Mr. Never Has A Hair Out Of Place or, if you prefer, Mr. Don't You Dare Challenge My Draft Opinion' has mocked to the New York Giants with the 19th pick. Answer:
Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
Interestingly, in Kiper's mock offensive tackles Anthony Castonzo (Boston College), Gabe Carimi (Wisconsin) and Ben Ijalana (Villanova) all go later in Round 1. Guard Mike Pouncey also goes later in the round. Linebacker Akeem Ayers, also often connected to the Giants, goes 21st to Kansas City.
Here is Kiper on Solder:
Solder is another tackle defined by his athletic frame and ability to move for the position. Probably not an immediate starter at left tackle because of developing pass-blocking skills, Solder still is a good value here. A player with a massive 6-foot-8 frame who manages good leverage at the point of attack, he gets good surge as a run-blocker and works well to the second level. No injury history and very smart, he should become a solid NFL starter in short order.
Sorry, but every time I think about Kiper now I think about watching the steam practically rise off his head during the 2010 Draft as he watched Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen sink into the second round. I'm not sure Mel has ever gotten over no one taking Clausen in the top 10, since that's where Mel was adamant he belonged.
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Mel might be right
He is a perfect JR type pick with his size, his huge upside and his athleticism and Jerry will find him irresistible at 19.
Go Giants!
agreed....smells like a Jerry Reese pick to me...
1) Value right around the 19th pick? Check.
2) Non-QB, ST? Check.
3) Athletic freak. Check.
4) From a smaller program rather than a huge football school? Check.
5) Can be called a “project?” Check.
6) Ridiculously high ceiling? Check, check and checkmate.
2011 Dream Draft
1) Akeem Ayers, OLB
2) Mikel LeShoure, RB
3) Kris O'Dowd, C
4) Davon House, CB
5) :(
6) Henry Hynoski, FB
7) Eric Hagg, SS
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Colorado's a small school?
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not really....I should've been more specific..
not from a football factory like USC, OSU, Florida, Miami, Alabama, etc
2011 Dream Draft
1) Akeem Ayers, OLB
2) Mikel LeShoure, RB
3) Kris O'Dowd, C
4) Davon House, CB
5) :(
6) Henry Hynoski, FB
7) Eric Hagg, SS
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 16, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
these days
Colorado might as well be Florida State, Miami, Michigan, etc….
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that seems like a reach give them that much credit
nobody makes me bleed my own blood! - Eli Manning
if we're talking about draft picks
unfortunately its not a stretch at all.
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I was talking about Colorado as a legit football squad
nobody makes me bleed my own blood! - Eli Manning
Now that Rich Rod is gone
Michigan will be off that list soon enough. Colorado has no business being in the same echelon as Michigan.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
I agree
but the past few years there hasn’t been much of a difference.
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NO OLINE IN THE FIRST
the draft is loaded with olinemen, first is for skill positions
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jerry Jones, is that you?
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha, i just think that
we should use the first on a skill position
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
if Ayers is BPA
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
wow we have JR all figured out after a handful of years?
I am not sure what a perfect JR type pick means. But I don’t think size and huge upside are the sole determining factors. Is that inference based on one first round pick he made last year?
I want the Giants to draft 2 offensive linemen in the first 3 rounds.
I wouldn’t mind if the Giants were to trade back into the first round to get 2 offensive linemen.
Rex Ryan... I salute you!
NO Oline in first, i'd rather trade back for more picks
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Kiper somehow usually has the position the Giants choose correct
I think he had Carlos Dunlap a few times with us last year, which probably would’ve been a good pick too.
I think he had Pouncey to us last time so he obviously thinks the Gints are going OL in the first. I’d rather have Pouncey than Solder tho.
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I was a big Dunlap fan
until people here told me that he had a bad motor. rolling eyes
9.5 sacks later, I should have stuck with my initial analysis.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
The only problem with his motor
was that he left it running when he drunk himself into unconsciousness in his car. Kind of a big red flag.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 16, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Passing on Ayers?
I don’t know if I’ve seen another person have the Giants pass on Ayers if he makes it to us at 19. Sure… plenty of folks have him drafted higher, but most people recognize if Ayers makes it down to us we’d take him. Why does he disagree?
In his Ayers blob he writes that Ayers is well suited for a 3-4 DEF. But I thought Ayers played OLB in a 4-3 in college, where he excelled. Is he not expected to make the leap that way to the pros, but instead play OLB in a 3-4 in the pros?
Mel will be proven right about
Jimmy Clausen when its all said and done. Give this young QB a little more time and surround him with some talent and he will flourish. He was in a pro stlye system for 3 years at Notre Dame and he learned from a brilliant offensive mind in Charlie Weis, give him what any QB needs and he’ll be solid for a long time. As far as Solder, I’m not sold. My feeling is we don’t need a T just yet and if we did go in that direction Solder isn’t the pick for me. He’d be my 4th ranked T behind Tyron Smith, Anthony Costanzo and Gabe Carimi.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Feb 16, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions
Clauson = Brady Quinn
Same pro style offense same looser coach, how did that work out?
by Late for Dinner on Feb 16, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Clausen was very overrated at ND
but that is not to say he won’t be a serviceable/good NFL QB. But it definitely seemed like Mel had a motive to push Clausen, when anyone with a brain would know that if he wasn’t drafted in the top 10 he would not go in the first round
I read the headline quickly and thought Kiper was making fun of Solder
That just seemed wrong.
by long time listener on Feb 16, 2011 5:23 PM EST reply actions
Yeah I wouldnt do that Mel
Dude is huge
by Oppenheimer919 on Feb 16, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
i would rather steel tamba hali from kc
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Can't happen now
He was given the “franchise tag”.
What happened to Frank083?
by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
i didn't see that when espn showed the franchised players
Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please
by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 17, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
We have enough DEs
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 17, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
not sold
No pun intended. Didn’t like Solder from what I saw in the Senior Bowl and all the practices. I would much rather have Pouncey or Carimi at 19. In fact I think I’d trade down (if either is still available) to add picks later on. This draft is gonna be solid in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds.
Agreed on Carimi and Pouncey
I’ve always like Carimi and the more I hear about Pouncey (big, nasty and likes to push people around) I’d have no problem with him as the first rounder even if he’s a guard. z
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Either of those would be good imo.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 16, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping Mouthy Mel will be wrong....
and given that it is Mouthy Mel, the odds are good.
Mel Kiper is annoying
but I saw his Mock from a years ago…the year Tuck got drafted.
I think he had Tuck like 5th or 6th overall, and of course we all know he fell all the way into the 3rd….but looking at it now….
Kudos to Kiper on that one….
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are you sure you werent reading the 2005 redo draft kiper did a few weeks ago?
he had tuck and cole in the top 5 as a re-do from 2005 6 years later
yeah...
but i’m not an “insider”…
are you telling me that those weren’t his picks but instead his picks looking back???
LOL
and here I was giving credit to MK….
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nate solder seems like a jerry reese pick definitely
hes probably going to be the pick when its all said and done. JPP-like upside but is raw. needs to be refined and we have the o-line coach to do it
but… we have william beatty though. do we really need two on the roster?
Kiper full of shit
It’s hard to believe that a guy gets paid to predict or guess wrong picks in the draft each year, must be nice. I really doubt that Miller goes so high at 5 in the draft, i still believe that the giants will probably trade down and draft a center in the 1st round.
I still
recall Bill Polian years ago (think he was with the Bills then, when the draft guru questioned him).
Polian said, and I am paraphrasing, “Who the hell is Mel Kiper”?
What happened to Frank083?
by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
I would rather
have Ingram at #19, than this guy, we drafted a somewhat raw LT two years ago, remember? If I had a choice between Soldier and Pouncey, I would take Pouncey’s versatility.
What happened to Frank083?
forget about ingram
unless we trade up to 14, Ingram is going #15 to the Dolphins. Every single mock I’ve seen has had it that way and its completely logical.
You are correct
in the logical sense, but that’s why they are called mock drafts. The so-called draft guru
thought Clausen had top 10 “value”. You never know, it’s possible they have more interest
in the kid from Iliinois for example. In fact, I wouldn’t mind if the Giants took him at #19.
I personally don’t expect Jacobs to be here.
What happened to Frank083?
by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Is Kiper a fraud?
It would be interesting to go back and look at comments that Kiper has made on players and give Kiper his own grade on his assessment of players. To me, he’s just a mouthpiece. I can go up there and make proclamations of players, if no one ever checks up on my long-term accuracy. In the NFL, GMs and head coaches lose their jobs with a poor track record for drafting. What’s Kiper’s? What did he say about Ryan Leaf?

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