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Mel Kiper Mocks Nate Solder To Giants

Oh My God! Stop what you are doing! The earth just stopped rotating, at least for a second. This can only mean that Mel Kiper of ESPN has released the latest version of his 2011 NFL Mock Draft.

All we care about here is who Mr. Never Has A Hair Out Of Place or, if you prefer, Mr. Don't You Dare Challenge My Draft Opinion' has mocked to the New York Giants with the 19th pick. Answer:

Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

Interestingly, in Kiper's mock offensive tackles Anthony Castonzo (Boston College), Gabe Carimi (Wisconsin) and Ben Ijalana (Villanova) all go later in Round 1. Guard Mike Pouncey also goes later in the round. Linebacker Akeem Ayers, also often connected to the Giants, goes 21st to Kansas City.

Here is Kiper on Solder:

Solder is another tackle defined by his athletic frame and ability to move for the position. Probably not an immediate starter at left tackle because of developing pass-blocking skills, Solder still is a good value here. A player with a massive 6-foot-8 frame who manages good leverage at the point of attack, he gets good surge as a run-blocker and works well to the second level. No injury history and very smart, he should become a solid NFL starter in short order.

Sorry, but every time I think about Kiper now I think about watching the steam practically rise off his head during the 2010 Draft as he watched Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen sink into the second round. I'm not sure Mel has ever gotten over no one taking Clausen in the top 10, since that's where Mel was adamant he belonged.

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Mel might be right

  He is a perfect JR type pick with his size, his huge upside and his athleticism and Jerry will find him irresistible at 19.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Feb 16, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

agreed....smells like a Jerry Reese pick to me...

1) Value right around the 19th pick? Check.
2) Non-QB, ST? Check.
3) Athletic freak. Check.
4) From a smaller program rather than a huge football school? Check.
5) Can be called a “project?” Check.
6) Ridiculously high ceiling? Check, check and checkmate.

2011 Dream Draft

1) Akeem Ayers, OLB
2) Mikel LeShoure, RB
3) Kris O'Dowd, C
4) Davon House, CB
5) :(
6) Henry Hynoski, FB
7) Eric Hagg, SS

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Colorado's a small school?

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

not really....I should've been more specific..

not from a football factory like USC, OSU, Florida, Miami, Alabama, etc

2011 Dream Draft

1) Akeem Ayers, OLB
2) Mikel LeShoure, RB
3) Kris O'Dowd, C
4) Davon House, CB
5) :(
6) Henry Hynoski, FB
7) Eric Hagg, SS

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 16, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

these days

Colorado might as well be Florida State, Miami, Michigan, etc….

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

if we're talking about draft picks

unfortunately its not a stretch at all.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that Rich Rod is gone

Michigan will be off that list soon enough. Colorado has no business being in the same echelon as Michigan.

"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss

by GhostDini on Feb 16, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but the past few years there hasn’t been much of a difference.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

NO OLINE IN THE FIRST

the draft is loaded with olinemen, first is for skill positions

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jerry Jones, is that you?

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha, i just think that

we should use the first on a skill position

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

wow we have JR all figured out after a handful of years?

I am not sure what a perfect JR type pick means. But I don’t think size and huge upside are the sole determining factors. Is that inference based on one first round pick he made last year?

by bonwei on Feb 16, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I want the Giants to draft 2 offensive linemen in the first 3 rounds.

I wouldn’t mind if the Giants were to trade back into the first round to get 2 offensive linemen.

Rex Ryan... I salute you!

by jdaking123 on Feb 16, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

NO Oline in first, i'd rather trade back for more picks

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Kiper somehow usually has the position the Giants choose correct

I think he had Carlos Dunlap a few times with us last year, which probably would’ve been a good pick too.

I think he had Pouncey to us last time so he obviously thinks the Gints are going OL in the first. I’d rather have Pouncey than Solder tho.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

I was a big Dunlap fan

until people here told me that he had a bad motor. rolling eyes

9.5 sacks later, I should have stuck with my initial analysis.

"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss

by GhostDini on Feb 16, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The only problem with his motor

was that he left it running when he drunk himself into unconsciousness in his car. Kind of a big red flag.

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by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 16, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Passing on Ayers?

I don’t know if I’ve seen another person have the Giants pass on Ayers if he makes it to us at 19. Sure… plenty of folks have him drafted higher, but most people recognize if Ayers makes it down to us we’d take him. Why does he disagree?

In his Ayers blob he writes that Ayers is well suited for a 3-4 DEF. But I thought Ayers played OLB in a 4-3 in college, where he excelled. Is he not expected to make the leap that way to the pros, but instead play OLB in a 3-4 in the pros?

by Matt dubs on Feb 16, 2011 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Mel will be proven right about

Jimmy Clausen when its all said and done. Give this young QB a little more time and surround him with some talent and he will flourish. He was in a pro stlye system for 3 years at Notre Dame and he learned from a brilliant offensive mind in Charlie Weis, give him what any QB needs and he’ll be solid for a long time. As far as Solder, I’m not sold. My feeling is we don’t need a T just yet and if we did go in that direction Solder isn’t the pick for me. He’d be my 4th ranked T behind Tyron Smith, Anthony Costanzo and Gabe Carimi.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Feb 16, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Clauson = Brady Quinn

Same pro style offense same looser coach, how did that work out?

by Late for Dinner on Feb 16, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Clausen was very overrated at ND

but that is not to say he won’t be a serviceable/good NFL QB. But it definitely seemed like Mel had a motive to push Clausen, when anyone with a brain would know that if he wasn’t drafted in the top 10 he would not go in the first round

by DukBudr on Feb 16, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

if Ayers

goes to Kansas City, then I definitely want to draft him at 19..

mmmmm.... delicious

by Cup Noodles on Feb 16, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

i would rather steel tamba hali from kc

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't happen now

He was given the “franchise tag”.

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

i didn't see that when espn showed the franchised players

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 17, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

We have enough DEs

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 17, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

not sold

No pun intended. Didn’t like Solder from what I saw in the Senior Bowl and all the practices. I would much rather have Pouncey or Carimi at 19. In fact I think I’d trade down (if either is still available) to add picks later on. This draft is gonna be solid in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds.

by MDGeeMan on Feb 16, 2011 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed on Carimi and Pouncey

I’ve always like Carimi and the more I hear about Pouncey (big, nasty and likes to push people around) I’d have no problem with him as the first rounder even if he’s a guard. z

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 16, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm hoping Mouthy Mel will be wrong....

and given that it is Mouthy Mel, the odds are good.

by Cranky50 on Feb 16, 2011 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Mel Kiper is annoying

but I saw his Mock from a years ago…the year Tuck got drafted.

I think he had Tuck like 5th or 6th overall, and of course we all know he fell all the way into the 3rd….but looking at it now….

Kudos to Kiper on that one….

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by andiamo708 on Feb 16, 2011 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

yeah...

but i’m not an “insider”…

are you telling me that those weren’t his picks but instead his picks looking back???

LOL

and here I was giving credit to MK….

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by andiamo708 on Feb 16, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

nate solder seems like a jerry reese pick definitely

hes probably going to be the pick when its all said and done. JPP-like upside but is raw. needs to be refined and we have the o-line coach to do it

but… we have william beatty though. do we really need two on the roster?

by Nfpdawg on Feb 16, 2011 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Kiper full of shit

It’s hard to believe that a guy gets paid to predict or guess wrong picks in the draft each year, must be nice. I really doubt that Miller goes so high at 5 in the draft, i still believe that the giants will probably trade down and draft a center in the 1st round.

by Jermal on Feb 16, 2011 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

I still

recall Bill Polian years ago (think he was with the Bills then, when the draft guru questioned him).
Polian said, and I am paraphrasing, “Who the hell is Mel Kiper”?

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I would rather

have Ingram at #19, than this guy, we drafted a somewhat raw LT two years ago, remember? If I had a choice between Soldier and Pouncey, I would take Pouncey’s versatility.

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 7:07 AM EST reply actions  

forget about ingram

unless we trade up to 14, Ingram is going #15 to the Dolphins. Every single mock I’ve seen has had it that way and its completely logical.

by Matt dubs on Feb 17, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You are correct

in the logical sense, but that’s why they are called mock drafts. The so-called draft guru
thought Clausen had top 10 “value”. You never know, it’s possible they have more interest
in the kid from Iliinois for example. In fact, I wouldn’t mind if the Giants took him at #19.
I personally don’t expect Jacobs to be here.

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Kiper a fraud?

It would be interesting to go back and look at comments that Kiper has made on players and give Kiper his own grade on his assessment of players. To me, he’s just a mouthpiece. I can go up there and make proclamations of players, if no one ever checks up on my long-term accuracy. In the NFL, GMs and head coaches lose their jobs with a poor track record for drafting. What’s Kiper’s? What did he say about Ryan Leaf?

by chingy98 on Feb 17, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

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