Shutdown Corner: Should we go all out for Nnamdi Asomugha or attempt to Draft one

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 3:14 PM EST

Do we wanna throw all that money at Asomougha
Do we wanna go through a devolpment process

Lets start with the draft prospects.

here are some of the rankings

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011_CB

OVR	Pos. Rank	Player	Pos.	School	Ht.	Wt.	Proj. Rd.	Stock	40 Time
1	1	Patrick Peterson	CB	LSU	6-1	212	1		4.42
8	2	Prince Amukamara	CB	Nebraska	6-0	205	1		4.49
24	3	Brandon Harris	CB	Miami (Fla.)	5-11	195	1-2		4.45
30	4	Jimmy Smith	CB	Colorado	6-2	205	1-2		4.49
34	5	Aaron Williams	CB	Texas	6-1	195	1-2		4.49
55	6	Davon House	CB	New Mexico State	6-0	184	2		4.46
57	7	Curtis Brown	CB	Texas	6-0	180	2		4.42
67	8	Brandon Burton	CB	Utah	6-0	185	2-3		4.49
71	9	Johnny Patrick	CB	Louisville	5-11	185	2-3		4.47
76	10	Ras-I Dowling	CB	Virginia	6-2	200	2-3		4.54
87	11	Chimdi Chekwa	CB	Ohio State	5-11	190	3		4.49
91	12	Shareece Wright	CB	Southern California	5-11	182	3		4.51
100	13	Rashad Carmichael	CB	Virginia Tech	5-10	185	3-4		4.38
102	14	Brandon Hogan	CB	West Virginia	5-10	190	3-4		4.43
122	15	Curtis Marsh	CB	Utah State	6-0	194	4		4.44

http://walterfootball.com/draft2011CB.php

http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/rankings?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft%2frankings (ofcourse you have to be an insider (like $10) a month to get the real rankings)

It looks like everybody is agreeing that Patrick Peterson, Price Amukamara, And Brandon Harris are in that order the top 3 CB prospects in the 2011 NFL draft. Brandon Harris looks to be the one that's most likely left at #19, and a draft prospect file was just done on him, so i won't get into that.

Nnamdi Asomugha:

What more is there to be said about Asomougha. Many believe he is the best CB in the NFL (myself included). he is the definition of shutdown corner. here is his ESPN Player Profile: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4489

There is however a downside to Nnamdi, he is aproaching 30 years old, and will cost MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Dollars. that said, he is proven, and we know what he is.

It's very rare to find a true shutdown corner in the NFL, and having one gives you the edge to know that you can put one guy at one half of the field and not worry about a big play or a td. having a shutdown corner also helps with the pass rush, allowing you to bring multiple blitzers every single down. every shutdown defense needs a shutdown player in the secondary. i want one for the giants.

what should we do, should we attempt to draft an unproven, prospect. or chase an expensive veteran.

Poll

what should we do about getting a shutdown corner

Get Nnamdi

77 votes

Draft a one at 19

15 votes

Attempt to trade up for one

7 votes

Nothing

23 votes

122 votes | Poll has closed

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THe Giants will make an attempt at Nnamdi, no doubt

but I’m sure every team will as no one has 2 corners better than him. So its up to him I guess.

-He probably wants to win, so that throws a lot of teams out of it.
-I’ve heard that he plans to get into broadcasting after football, so that may mean he wants the big market
-he got paid $15mil last year, so he’ll probably want at least a salary match of this.

We can offer the winning and the big market. Can we offer the money? I’m sure we can find a way.

But what do we offer over other teams that posses this, like the Jets and Eagles? The Cowporks I’m sure will try and be in this as well.

Overall I don’t think worrying about Nnamdi to the Giants is anything to get worked up about. Its got a very slim chance of happening. Much more likely to see them draft one.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 14, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions

i see them drafting one too

tho i hope we get Nnamdi, i’m not sure we will. i don’t think he will go to the eagles for a few reasons
1. bad market compared to where he can go
2. Terrible city
3. he wants to go to a good team
and 4. the eagles are not the giants

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions

Philly is a great city

I mean I hate the teams like I do Boston, but realistically its a great city.

Its a big market and the Eggs are a pretty good team. Yes, the Eagles aren’t the Giants but I dunno what that has to do with it.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 14, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions

i hate boston aswell, and agree on it being a good city

but philly is a sh*thole IMO
and tho the eagles had a good record and played to an acceptional extent i will never admit there good

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions

I can see the Eagles

being an attractive team and location for Nnamdi. For several reasons

"Just when I thought you could'nt be any dumber, you go and do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!

by tommy d. on Feb 17, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions

i would like one

and it can be to rebuild a sh*t city

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 17, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

five reasons would be they are a very good team with another good

corner on the other side, a very good coach and QB, and they concievabley have the money to spend on a big ticket FA. But I still haye them!

"Just when I thought you could'nt be any dumber, you go and do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!

by tommy d. on Feb 18, 2011 7:30 AM EST up reply actions

i can't admit there a good team (but you are right on that)

asante samuel is pretty good but i don’t think he is THAT muchh better than who we have. and vick is not a qb so he don’t count. and we have some money 2

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

Bunga Bunga Party anyone???

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 18, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions

Broke ratings records pretty much every time they played on national TV last season, good team, in the playoffs pretty much every year, highly respected coaching staff in league circles, outstanding facilities, and the ability for them to pay over market. Oops, that’s more than one – Sorry.

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by JimmyK on Feb 18, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions

yes they have been to the playoffs. No they have not won anything

your coaching staff is no more if not less respected then ours. our facilities are brand new and better.

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

Bunga Bunga Party anyone???

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 18, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions

our facilities are brand new and better.

HAHAHAHA… Oh yeah, well my dad can beat up your dad.

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by JimmyK on Feb 18, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions

that made me lol

i was just countering your argument

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

Bunga Bunga Party anyone???

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 18, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions

It's my opinion that they need to upgrade the CB position...

I doubt they snag Nnamdi because I think other teams will be willing to outbid the Giants. They need to do something though because the NFC East is quietly becoming a division that is stacked with superstar WRs…Nicks, SS12, Bryant, Austin (on his best day), Jackson, Maclin, and Santana Moss (HAHAHAHAH…just kidding). You can bet your ass Philly and Dallas are looking at Nnamdi…don’t sleep on Washington moving Haynesworth to try to grab another big-name defensive player.

One of my biggest fears now (due to some of the recent confusing breakdowns) is that the Giants start getting tunnel vision during the off-season. They need to make a move at LB but they shouldn’t ignore any other position. It is frustrating and it will get very aggravating if we see an improvement at LB and then watch the CB position breakdown.

sigh...

by nywins42 on Feb 14, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions

i think we make a fair bid at Nnamdi

but i wouldn’t mind taking one of the top3 CB’s and picking up a LB in FA and maybe 2nd,3rd,or 4th rounds

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions

I would be disappointed if the Giants didn't even make an attempt at snagging Nnamdi...

it may be weak or strong but I just want them to make an appearance in the discussion

sigh...

by nywins42 on Feb 15, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions

if there not gonna really try than i don't want to get excited

i want Nnmadi, but i would also like to get a young CB talent (see devin mcourty)

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 15, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions

Im not getting to

excited about getting Nnamdi because I don’t THINK the Giants will pay that much for him (15mil +). But I am quietly hoping they see getting him as critical to their success in the near and not so distant future and make a real effort. Like nywins42 said, there are ALOT of great wideouts in our division.

"Just when I thought you could'nt be any dumber, you go and do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!

by tommy d. on Feb 17, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

+1

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 17, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions

overpay

like as if our GM was named Daniel Snyder.

I know it’s not our MO but do it, and we’re contenders… Immediately, this year, as in NOW!

Prove me wrong TC.

by Flynner on Feb 14, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions

agree on getting Nnamdi

but would rather drsft a shutdown corner, Nnamdi is 29 and not getting any younger.
the thing is shutdown corners are rare and never a sure thing in the draft, Nnamdi is a sure thing and thats why i’m for it

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions

In this case... win now

worry about next year, next year.

He will instantly make whatever team he goes to a much better defensive team. We are already a good team on Def. He would make us great.

Prove me wrong TC.

by Flynner on Feb 14, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions

He would make us Elite

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

I think he's 28

"Just when I thought you could'nt be any dumber, you go and do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!

by tommy d. on Feb 17, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

i remember his player profile saying 29

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 17, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions

All that money for one elite player

or spread it out for two or three good ones? This is difficult to answer but I would love and elite more than anything. But there are options in the draft as well. Curtis Marsh is an intriguing raw CB who will go pretty high despite only 2 years at the position. Another player who may be a good fit for us as opposed to the “top” CB’s is Jalil Brown. He has size, speed and he is one of the best if not probably the best zone corner in the draft. Talent is out there and not just in the name of Nnamdi.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Feb 15, 2011 5:42 PM EST reply actions

Agree, i would love Nnamdi, but i want a young elite corner also. i will be fine either way

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 15, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions

He's staying in Oakland.

Your argument is invalid.

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I pledge allegiance to the Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, Los Angeles Lakers, Anaheim Angels... and Quentin Tarantino.

by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Feb 16, 2011 2:30 PM EST reply actions

that is a bias statement

my argument is 100% valid

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 16, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions

No basis either

"Just when I thought you could'nt be any dumber, you go and do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!

by tommy d. on Feb 17, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions

yea, not even a basis, i shouldn't answer those

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 17, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions

I can understand him being upset, though

"Just when I thought you could'nt be any dumber, you go and do this... AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!

by tommy d. on Feb 18, 2011 7:32 AM EST up reply actions

i am upset when eagles fans think they have a better city, team, or coaching staff. or facilities than us. cause they have none of the above

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

Bunga Bunga Party anyone???

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 18, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions

Coaching staff? Debatable. I have a lot of respect for Tom Coughlin, just as i do for Andy Reid.

Better city? I’ve lived just outside of both NYC and Philly. They’re both awesome cities in different ways, but personally, it’s really hard to beat NYC.

Better facilities? Really, this is such a minor point. I mean… who cares? The players care, but as fans, does it really matter? But just for fun, I’ve seen just about all of the Eagles’ facilities, including their offices, practice bubble, stadium, press box, training camp fields, etc), and they’re all impressive. With the Giants, I’m limited to their press box and stadium, and from what I’ve seen I’ll take the Eagles.

But as for the question of who has the better team, at least currently? There’s no question it’s the Eagles. No question at all.

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by JimmyK on Feb 18, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

i can never admit the eagles are a good or better team. but i can say you have had our #

i feel tho that we have the better HB’s, WR’s, D-line, Secondary. and with all due respect to vick, he is not a qb he is a liability and i’d take eli any day over him.
tho i have seen some of the giants new faciliteies and they look hard to beat, IMO

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

Bunga Bunga Party anyone???

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 18, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

i feel tho that we have the better HB’s

No way. Wouldn’t trade LeSean McCoy alone for all your backs.

WR’s

Not in 2010 they weren’t, although I’ll concede that a lot of that was due to the Giants’ injury issues at the position. Both receiving corps are uber-talented. The Giants’ receivers will be right there with the Eagles again in 2011 if they can keep Steve Smith, and if Smith is truly healthy.

D-line

No question. the Giants have the better DL.

Secondary

Eh, not so sure about that one. It’s close. The Eagles have that one gaping hole at RCB, but the rest is very good. the Giants’ secondary is just kind of meh across the board.

and with all due respect to vick, he is not a qb he is a liability and i’d take eli any day over him.

Last I checked he’s a QB, and was the MVP runner up. Eli Manning, meanwhile, threw 25 picks. If you’d rather have Manning for moral reasons… OK, fine… but Vick is clearly the better player right now.

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by JimmyK on Feb 18, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions

Jacobs and bradshaw ARE better than mccoy, that is not a debate, it is a fact.

no questiont that our recievers our better. there is no argument for that.
secondary is a toss up.
vick is the better athelete. but from a qb standpoint, eli is a better QB.
i respect vick for how he played this season, but if i were to start a new franchise and i had to pick between vick and eli, it’s eli.

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

Bunga Bunga Party anyone???

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 18, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions