ESPN Grades The Giants' Coaching Staff

by Ed Valentine on Feb 14, 2011 10:00 AM EST in New York Giants News

ESPN New York's Ohm Youngmisuk has been grading the New York Giants 2010 season position-by-position. Ohm recently looked at the coaching staff. That, of course, is always a hot-button topic -- especially since it seems the Giants are content to leave the staff intact -- so let's look at what Ohm had to say.

Here is his conclusion:

Coughlin deserves to return for another season as he still has command over the locker room. But he cannot afford to miss the postseason for a third straight season. The head coach said at the end of the season that he doesn’t plan on making any changes to his coaching staff.

Gilbride and quarterbacks coach Mike Sullivan, who just finished his first season as QB coach after overseeing the wide receivers, will have to find a way to help Manning with the interceptions.

Defensively, Fewell has to limit the explosive plays and match up better against the more explosive offenses in the league after being overwhelmed by the Colts and Packers and melting down against the Eagles last season.

Quinn’s unit will be under the spotlight again next season as Lawrence Tynes was pretty much the bright spot for the special teams.

We will, I'm sure, have a lot more discussion about the individual coaches throughout the offseason. I have had my say about many of these coaches at other times and I'm not going to completely re-hash it now. Let's leave it at this:

I am still surprised by the loyalty to Quinn and I really don't know enough about the job Sullivan does to judge him. Gilbride-haters can and will kill me for believing it, but KG is a good offensive coordinator. Fewell is a good defensive coordinator. There are better ones than Gilbride and Fewell, but there are also a lot of inferior ones, too.

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Puff Puff Pass...

Did Coughlin just say no changes to the coaching staff as in Quinn is getting another chance to ruin our season (if there is a season)? WTF

by Late for Dinner on Feb 14, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions

It's mind boggling

Check out the fan post about where our specials teams have ranked the past few years. I don’t get it….I really don’t understand how this guy gets a free pass.

by Split316 on Feb 14, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions

Quinn

We can talk about all the other coaches, but Quinn has long been the one I truly do not understand. The performance over the past few seasons speaks for itself.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 14, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions

Agreed

people can say what they want about KG, but the guy gets us highly ranked in most offensive categories every year. It’s not always his fault our offense can’t come up with big first downs when needed…that’s on the players and execution.

by Split316 on Feb 14, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions

Replacing Killdrive is all about upgrading after all he did win a SB

You always have to tread lightly because Kevin knows what he is doing so if you replace him you have to replace him with someone better. Quinn is just plain horrible if the Giants hired someone who made our ST’s average we would all be happy.

by Late for Dinner on Feb 14, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions

as much as i hate gilbride

he is a decent OC. we do gain a lot of yards and score a lot of points. the only problem is he’s way too predictable when it’s a 3rd or 4th and short situation. and it was 99% our defense that won the super bowl. i highly doubt there is a play drawn up that is designed to have Eli evade 4 potential sacks and a helmet catch. the gods were on our side that day.

I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones. - Bill Parcells
Be excellent to each other... and party on. - Abraham Lincoln

by T_Hutch on Feb 14, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions

Special Teams

When was the last time we had a kick return or punt return? Was the Giants special teams dead last in punt / kick returns last year?

by Slingblade10 on Feb 14, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions

i think they were one of five teams without one

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions

Hixon was a big loss

Maybe he’s not the best returner in the league but when he went down we essentially lost two spots and never filled them on an already sub par ST. When something goes wrong on specials teams the cameras always caught TC yelling at the ST unit and Quinn a few yards behind him looking over his shoulder not saying a word…. I’m sure the guy says something at some point but he just looked so unsure of what to say and when to say it…

by KumaBlue42 on Feb 14, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions

Hey tom quinn is consistent

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah

consistently bad!

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions

still consistent tho

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions

Bingo!

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions

Baffling

poor field position on both sides of special teams have cost us way too many yards in filed position and a few games the last few seasons & killdrive is holding us back. Can’t believe both are not gone. They must have discriminating photo’s of TC with farm animals or something to that effect.

by NYG1960 on Feb 14, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions

Accountability

How can TC preach accountability to his players when the ST coach has been horrible and he continues to coach the squad? It is unreal that they have not fired him, if only to wash the stink of the poor past performances away and let the whole team start fresh regarding all the special teams.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Feb 14, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions

Excellent, excellent, agreed RonJon

A very insightful comment.

How can you demand the best from players, insist on being accountable, yada, yada, when every sane person over the age of 5 knows the ST play has been bad to horrible over years and Quinn has directly made many mistakes that have been very costly?

I am sure teams plan to attack this weak point. As fans, we hold our breath every time we kick and every time we receive a kick.

It is one of the many reasons I am unhappy with and do not respect TC. I still don’t have an answer, what will it take for TC to accept a change is immediately in order? Does Quinn have to participate in a tripping incident?

Beyond absurd and ridiculous.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions

my 3 year old brother was chanting

“QUINN SUCKS!!!!” at some points this season

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions

Haha!..Now that's a smart kid!!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Bring Frank back..or you all can line up and "Kiss my Ass"..This is bullshit..

by Bobbiblue on Feb 14, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions

I always supported TC

But I just can’t defend this. If he stays and the ST are bad come opening day, TC should get fired pretty quickly. It’s that simple.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Feb 14, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions

you mean quinn should be fired quickly

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions

How about both, if they don't fix ST's!

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Feb 14, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions

i like tom

quinn not so much

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions

Grade is Excellent

You had a QB whom threw for a record thirty TDs.
He did this without one of his starting WR’s out with injury and the second one hurt later in the year.
You had one RB get over 1,000 yards and another RB close to getting it.
They did this with an offensive line that was injuried all year round across the whole line.

Had more injuries on defense that still gave us a chance to win every week.

So this tells me that the team plays for its coaches. The coaches did an exellent job base on all the injuries that they had to overcome.

by Dziedzic on Feb 14, 2011 11:57 AM EST reply actions

2 of his starting recievers

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions

and not to mention

somewhere on here, it was said we reached over 6,000 yards for the first time in team history, im addition to what was said in the above stats

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Feb 15, 2011 7:19 AM EST up reply actions

that really is amazing

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman and replace him with Strahan please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 15, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions

That's an excellent way to think of it

and really representative of what exactly does “playing hard for your coach” even mean?
According to you, hell yeah. According to a lot of others, hell no. I’m more towards yes myself.

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden

by Willgfass on Feb 15, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions

It is What it is

Football is not and individual sport. You play as units for each othe rand the coach.
The team fell apart because of all the injuries catching up with them. Nothing else.
The coach has the repect of the players nad the ownership so based on this scenario of reality known as injuries.
Injuries especially in football changes the whole season. The team held on as long as it could based on this. There should be no pointing of fingers at the coach or players because the injury scenario is the main reason.
Now get on to the draft and get a star linebacker in the first round and some key offensive linemen with our second and third round picks.

by Dziedzic on Feb 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions

Looking at that picture of Coughlin...

..and dreaming he is pointing at Quinn and saying “Get out !!!”

by Bobbiblue on Feb 14, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions

I'd rather dream he is saying

“WTF Quinn, if your guys cannot tackle Douche-Sean, you go out and do it. Or this finger is going to go where the sun don’t shine”.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions

LOL @ Douche-Sean

by Late for Dinner on Feb 14, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions

I pictured...

sigh...

by nywins42 on Feb 14, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

rec'd

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions

Hahaha!

by Bobbiblue on Feb 14, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions

my first thought

is… “over there, I left the geritol, over there.”

Prove me wrong TC.

by Flynner on Feb 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

BTW, Manning's interceptions

are, IMO, on Manning.

Throwing high, just being erratic. Then left hand throws, dumb decisions. I don’t see a mechanical problem though I am not an expert.

Manning just has to bring his throws down and stop making STUPID, DumbAss, decisions.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions

-1/2

because only half were on eli

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions

More than

half were on Elijah, a handful of tipped passes (that were actually catchable), and few broken routes that led to INT’s.

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions

+1/2

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions

Time for Eli to stop crawfishing and stick to alligator hunting

Dats where dem monies is

by Bobbiblue on Feb 14, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions

i heard they pay big money for eagle feathers

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah..and we could use some..Fleece that flock twice next year..

by Bobbiblue on Feb 14, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions

+1

Dear FOX...
Fire Aikman please

by 56THE REAL LT on Feb 14, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions

Throwing off his back foot

is good example of a “mechanical” flaw…Eli has a good arm, but not a gun, so in his case when he does it, it usually spells problems or INT’s…He knows he when he does it, and is correctable.

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions

It is amazing

That Quinn still has a job. I want to talk to him and learn the secret of being totally incompetent for a 3 year period and still retain your job. The man is a genius.

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Feb 14, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions

Apparently

he is in the amazing business huh? It is unreal, continuity my ass!

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

Thats the problem

I wanted Coughlin gone for this reason to damn stubborn. Everyone and his brother knows that Quinn has and will continue to suck donkey ass but the coach wont budge. It hurts the team when your loyal to a fault and wont change personnel. That or Tom is mentally challenged and hides it well.

Why is Tom Quinn still here?

by costanza! on Feb 14, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions

Ryan should be gone too!

Please, the former Quality Control Coach, now receivers coach! Apparently all that excellent route running by the young receiving core saved him HIS job. I heard Sal Alosi is available?

What happened to Frank083?

by Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions

DC

We’ve changed defensive coordinators 3 years in a row and maintained (with the exception of the Sheridan debacle) a top defense. The idea that he’d keep Quinn for continuity’s sake is insane!
As much as I criticize Gilbride, as has been said already, he keeps the offense competitive, although I believe it should be simpler, and develop a better tempo, and make better use of some players skills.
But Quinn’s got t0 go! And Sullivan should too, after the problems that Eli had this year.

by blumag on Feb 14, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions

Quinn/Loyalty

This is not loyalty.This is not loyalty to a fault.This feels like stubborn ignorance.

by Shaunthegiant on Feb 14, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions

It feels like stupid

to me. Just stubborn, stupid. And I am sick of it.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 14, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions

Keeping Quinn

is like saying “Here, why don’t we try to put a band-aid on that 32” laceration."
This is ridiculous. It’s like no one acknowledges the massive ST problems we’ve had.
Therefore, I would have to reduce TC’s grade, as well.

Quit playing not to lose. Start playing to WIN! Geeez...

by GAgiantfan on Feb 14, 2011 8:39 PM EST reply actions

I think it's time for Reese to step in....

and tell TC that either you go or Quinn goes, and by the way, if you go, Quinn’s going anyways.

by Cranky50 on Feb 15, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions

I like this solution

and add that if JR will not do this, the Maras should tell him either you do this or you go too.

This team will not be an SB champ while the STs are as bad as they are.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
On second thought, let's not blame players or coaches, they are not responsible. The unsupportive fans are to blame.

by UnknownJintsFan on Feb 15, 2011 7:18 AM EST up reply actions