Giants-Cowboys Injury Update: Long List Of Missing For Giants
by Ed Valentine on Dec 8, 2011 4:32 PM EST
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PrintNo real surprises today on the New York Giants' injury report. Nine players did not practice at all, and wide receiver Mario Manningham (knee) and cornerback Prince Amukamara (back) were limited.
The nine who did not practice include David Baas (neck/headaches), Michael Boley (hamstring), Ahmad Bradshaw (foot), Mark Herzlich (ankle), Spencer Paysinger (hamstring), Brandon Jacobs (hamstring), Kenny Phillips (knee), Dave Tollefson (knee) and Osi Umenyiora (knee/ankle).
Head coach Tom Coughlin had no update on Baas, the starting center who has been suffering neck pain and severe headaches. He said that Jacobs and Bradshaw are scheduled to practice on Friday.
Manningham has missed the last two games, but Coughlin sounded optimistic that he could return Sunday.
"He has practiced for two days. He looks good. He looks sharp. He looks quick," Coughlin said. "Hopefully there is no issue the next day. That is what you worry about. The swelling."
Linebacker DeMarcus Ware is listed as not having participated in practice Thursday for the Dallas Cowboys due to a stinger. Blogging The Boys, however, reports that Ware did practice.
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me? not so much.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
You should
Our defense isn’t good enough that we can afford to lose offensive weapons.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
just being selfish and optimistic that Ram's will have a break out game ,before hes relegated to the bench once AGAIN.
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This is just getting depressing.
It seems like it would be faster to just ask who is healthy?
Team Win Ugly.
ESPN = Everyone Spewing Putrid Nonsense
Also the cowboys are getting healthy.
Hopefully manningham and osi comeback.
Osi ?not so much
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The more I think about this game
The more worried I get. All these injuries don’t help…
It was a particularly small egg...thats why I asked.
by thenightstallion on Dec 8, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions
really hoping osi can play,
even just some limited snaps would be great. forgot the earlier article, but it sounds like attacking doug free and getting some pressure will be the key to getting anthony romo to choke
I see Blue, he looks glorious!
JPP can handle Free with ease
Free has been bad for just about the entire season.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Ware has 2 sacks in his last 4 games against the Giants
With Bradshaw there to help out in pass protection, Ware won’t be as big of a threat as we think. The bigger issue is doubling Ware and having to leave McKenzie by himself on the other side.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Yes and no...
Rob Ryan has been moving Ware around a lot. We have to find Ware at the line and call out protections based on his location. Eli will be busy at the line on Sunday.
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Ware will get "his"
you almost expect him too.
but w/ the Giants….who knows what Fewell will do, but it’s safe to say that we’ll need a strong showing from our front 4 and an energized healthy Tuck and JPP at DE will need to beast out there.
and hopefully Linval and Canty can get some heat up the middle ta boot.
the biggest issue i see here and the biggest compliment i can make of Romo is that he can keep plays alive w/ his feet…in the pocket. that’s why sending a 5th guy is smart because if one guy gets “through” Romo will often times do just enough to avoid the sack and extend the play another 1 or 2 seconds to free up a WR.
Fewell IMO should be preaching to his Dline to keep Romo in the pocket and just collapse it.
Fire Fewell
All great points.
Also, Linval and Canty also need to show up to put a damper on Murray. I just hope we don’t see Fewell completely sell out to stop the pass only to get burnt on the ground or vice versa.
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what's most confusing about Fewell this year....
is his tampering w/ the Dline.
last year Barry Cofield and Canty practically never came off the field. this year up until last week, Canty and Joseph were constantly coming off the field. What gives?
and look at what the dline did last year? they were taking the ball back from the offense at an alarming rate.
Fire Fewell
Very interesting angle.
He could be doing more damage than good if he is trying to be too cute with substitutions instead of just putting his best 2 DTs on the field and letting them own the middle of that line.
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I've mentioned this as a big reason for the bad run defense
You can’t keep taking your biggest defenders off of the field and expect smaller guys to get the job done.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Thats Feuls sig
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Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
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I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
again...I'm not going to sit here and tell people I know more than Fewell
but when you see drastic changes from one year to the next it makes you wonder: Why?
Fire Fewell
Nascar?...
I think we’ve just about worn that line up out and DC’s have either figured it out or our guys can’t run it effectively right now. Remember when it was one of the most feared line ups in the league when Spags rolled it out? Oops, didn’t mean to bring up the painful memory of better times defensively.
Ware gets a lot of meaningless sacks
He rarely gets a sack when the team most needs it. In the Philly game, I believe he had 4 sacks and you wouldn’t have known it. The Eagles ran screens to his side all day and ate him up.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Our injuries are showing our great younger players
cruz, petrus, j williams, amukamara, jpp. How much would these guys play if we had hixon,bass, goff, sintim, terrell thomas, osi and a healthy tuck?
I would give up Williams to have Goff back.
I’d love for Thomas not to have gone down. As much as I like Prince I would rather have CWeb and TT on the field as CBs so Rolle could play safety full time.
JPP needs to be on the field at DE all the time.
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Nope
JPP at DT is the way to go
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I can't argue with logic.
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Is why i can care less about Osi's health
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
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Why is our defense like swiss cheese against the pass?
A. Our linbackers and defensive backs do not cover receivers effectively
B. Our defensive game plan is lacking
C. The edge goes to the passing offese in today’s NFL
D. All of the above.
No pressure from front 4
giving the QB all day. That did change with the GB game but Rodgers has been sacked the most this year. And we only got 2 sacks still…
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I'm a big believer that B is the problem
When your defensive coordinator says that guys have to will themselves to beat double teams, you know you’re in trouble.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Just looking at some Giant's stats and who would have thought
1. JPP would be leading the team in sacks (really not a big stretch), but
2. Nicks would be second in Recs and Yards to Cruz
3. We will have two thousand yard receivers and no thousand yard running backs??
Quinn must go !!
For me the big one is rushing
Dead Last.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
We need a better o line
I am optimistic about Petrus. Diehl and McKenzie past peak. Probably Snee also. I think we did better with Boothe over Baas, though hope Baas is Ok.
by scarlet knight on Dec 8, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Snee is off
this year. But I think he has some more years left in him. The other two are done
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Chemistry
So many lineup changes on the OL. So many different positions being played by novices. A huge reason for the inconsistency. BTW, pass protection hasn’t been that bad, given that EVERYONE knows Eli’s puttin’ it up at a record pace, with lots of downfield routes that take a while to develop.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Chemistry has little to do with anything
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
OK,
Familiarity? Knowledge of what each is going to do?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Sure I could buy that
if you meant that as chemistry then okay. I thought you meant everyone has to like each other like how people commonly want.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
doubt they need to like each other
just work together long enough to have chemistry
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Run blocking's an intricate thing
Not all brute force. With all the new faces and roles, it’s a problem.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
They should prepare a replacement though
but not a project. We thought McKenzie was the best RT last year and look what happened. Better to be safe then sorry again.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
they can afford a project to replace Snee
2 years or so to develop would be ideal
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's like our situation now
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I hear yeah
Can’t tell for sure if its a fluke year or a breakdown starting. I’m for 2 out of the 1st 3 picks being used on OLine.
A lot of the other needs this draft would be more depth and replacing lost FAs, like at CB if Ross and TT walk.
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Thing thing that bothers me the most about the prep for next season is...
TTs injury. I don’t know if they can afford to go into the season with a CB coming off an injury. Remember that was they excuse for Phillips’ performance last year. They were “protecting his knee”. Whatever decisions the front office makes it needs to be swift and definite because they can’t drag their feet hoping that someone will rebound from an injury quickly. Same goes with Goff.
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yeap
one of them will get “SS12ed” I think
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly what I was thinking
I think they need to go after a quality MLB in free agency…hard.
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Yeah but...
Don’t you think alot of these decisions would have been alot easier if coaches would have had access to players during the offseason. Kinda hard to judge a player’s fitness when you can’t even talk to him let alone work him out as was the case this offseason. Also, do you junk players in anticipation of hiring their replacement when there is a chance they actually are healed? How many of us where saying in the offseason that we should get rid of Boley? Would you say the same now? Let’s face it, the biggest culprit this year isn’t coaching. It was the lockout and like it or not that falls squarely on the OWNERS.
Snee could be a fluke year.
But McKenzie and Diehl just look finished. They look dead. Maybe it’s an injury thing but yikes they look awful.
CB I think could be a need but Ross leaving already is an improvement.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Petrus Boothe Beatty Baas Snee
in 2012?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
I hope that's not in order lol.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
But to start 2012 yeah that's be nice
if we drafted a tackle, a guard and have Brewer raring to go.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Beatty = Petrus = Baas = Snee = ?
Bench:
Boothe, Brewer
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
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Some flashes vs. Green Bay
For the first time Jacobs looked like Jacobs and Bradshaw like Bradshaw in the same game. A 4-game run out of that pair would be nice.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
true
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
They looked like they were feeding off one another
I hope this will continue for the next 8 weeks.
Quinn must go !!
Earth and Fire
No consensus on who Wind will be – definitely not DJ, though he’s done what he was asked to do. Scott maybe?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
A 4 game run of good play is necessary if we want to see the playoffs.
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DJ is ok
He did run in the 2 point conversion. He pass protects well.
I promoted Scott and he fumbled. but he deserves another chance.
I knocked Beckum and he had a great TD.
I am reliquishing personnel decisions to Coach Coughlin.
Scott's speed would be nice, though
Like to see him get some carries Sunday
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
sadly the fumble put him in the TC doghouse
track record shows you stay there for two games then get another chance
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
The man's consistent to a fault
TC gonna do it his way, no matter what we think
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yeap
can’t disagree with that
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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of O-line and RB talk
but on Sunday my bigger concern is the defensive side of the ball. Will we press with some man to mix things up, or sit back in that soft zone and let the ’boys run free?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
If the Oline plays like they did in the loss to Philly then it won't matter how the defense plays.
The Giants have to win every game in which the defense holds their opponent to under 20 points. The defense is a major concern but they should be able to win games by making one more stop than the other guys can manage.
My argument about this season is that the defense and offense haven’t played well during the same game. One week the defense shows up big and the offense falters while other weeks it’s the offense that impresses but the defense is caught sleeping. Both need to show up on Sunday or it’s gonna be ugly.
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I'd like us to go down swingin'
Aggresive play from the d. Forcing the issue. Dictating the action. A little hurry-up on offense. Taking shots. Maybe a late season wrinkle from the playbook. Anything but the Philly/NO coma they were in.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
The Eagles ahd Cole and Babin
vs the worst tackles in the league. Now we only have to deal with Ware but with the best blocking RB in Bradshaw is back so I’m not as worried. Plus Boothe is amazing. It won’t be that bad….I hope
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
The urgency...the immediacy
That’s what we saw v. GB and what we need Sunday. Flying to the ball. Finishing plays. We can’t sleep walk through three or four series in a row.
When they show up to play, I like their chances against anyone.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Thank the good Lord!
Where would we be without little brother?
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Driving our Carrs off a cliff
"I understand (Vick's) frustration. Nobody wants to get hit that many times." ~Mathias Kiwanuka
Is the reason Giants have so many hamstring/ knee issues because of the condition of the Giant’s field?
its because its the NFL
and they’re no different then any other team in it.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I heard Ware isn't injured and missing practice
he’s just seeing what its like to be a NY Giant for the day.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Our Trainers should be getting paid double for this year...
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
no its their fault!
amidoingitright
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
looksokaytome
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ourtrainersdonotproperlystretchourplayersacls
"I understand (Vick's) frustration. Nobody wants to get hit that many times." ~Mathias Kiwanuka
Hard to believe it's the field.
Loads of NFL fields have similar turf, it’s state of the art, developed to lower injuries.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Tuck wants to retire a Giant. That's great!
“Me wanting to be a Cowboy?” Tuck asked rhetorically. “Hmm, well, I don’t wear Wranglers. I don’t wear cowboy hats or boots or those belts that — what do you call those? — yeah, the buckle belts. I don’t wear none of that. And I don’t need a star on my helmet to tell me I’m pretty good at what I do. … I plan on retiring as a Giant.”
He’s kind of funny, too.
When I think of these Cowboys I picture “Brokeback Mountain” and not John Wayne.
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There's one guy the Giants need
down the stretch.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Big Ben looks pretty hurt
AFC is wide open now
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Remember when TC joked about running out of jerseys?
Was right after the bye, I think. Everybody practiced for, like, three days. Now they’re running out of beds.
The incompetence and idiocy of ESPN strikes again.
For hours they reported the Chris Paul trade as done. Then they said that it wasn’t going to be done today but that it would still be done. Then they said that the NBA didn’t approve the trade and now it’s dead.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Today different people at ESPN have said that the Knicks are looking to trade Amar'e and Carmelo
lolllllllllllllllllll
Sadly it gained traction over at PAT
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Tell me about it...
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