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New York Giants' David Baas Still Undergoing Tests

It looks like the New York Giants could head into Sunday's night game against the Dallas Cowboys once again fielding a makeshift offensive line. Coach Tom Coughlin Wednesday said that starting center David Baas' injury is "much more serious than a headache."

"That was what he brought to the medical people on Sunday but there is a lot more to it. As a matter of fact, he is having tests today and he has spent the last few days doing tests," Coughlin said.

Baas, of course, did not practice Wednesday. He did not play Sunday against the Green Bay Packers.

That means that Kevin Boothe will likely once again play center Sunday and Mitch Petrus will be at left guard. That duo actually helped the Giants have one of their best rushing performances of the season Sunday against the Green Bay Packers.

Full injury report details will be available later either here or over at SB Nation New York.

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sigh. I had a bad feeling about this.

Hopefully he gets a CAT scan and everything turns out ok.

But yeah, its been about 12 hours or so since we put Andrews on IR…football gods deemed that way too long, so I can see Baas going on IR if they find something.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Recover fast

Before we think about them playing football Lets just hope Andrews and Baas get these serious conditions treated and cured.

Petrus will do a fine job again as will Boothe but that is secondary,

by BLUEYOU on Dec 7, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

scary stuff...

hopefully DB checks out ok.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

David Baas the key free agent acquisition by JR

David Baas either hurt or sick or being pushed into the back field on running play. great job Jerry

by dan_NYG on Dec 7, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

It's not Jerry's job to.........

keep these guys healthy. That’s on the Coaching. Injuries happen but when they happen in droves like this you have to wonder what is going wrong here. I believe there’s a lack of mental and physical toughnees on this Team and it’s been that way for a few years now. Not just these past 3 years but let’s not forget 2005 when we had no LB’s left and Osi and Strahan were out too……….An unwise man once said “Injuries are a Cancer”…………..hmmmmm TC?

TCB
Van Pelt on the tackle....
Wide right forever.....
18 and 1 GIANT lose.......

by zoosloose on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The irony is the guy has never missed a game

Until he became a Giant. 4 years without a missed start till now. SMHS

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 7, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

kind of like Canty.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 7, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yea that's Jerry's fault

a derpa a derpa derp.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 7, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Playing for the Giants

is about the most hazardous job in the world. Coal miner, crab fisherman, policeman in Juarez Mexico, then NYG football player.

by Oppenheimer919 on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Dont forget Ballboy for Penn St.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 7, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

HAHA

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 7, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Why am i the only one finding that funny?

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.

by Troy O on Dec 7, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

O wait ..n-e-v-e-r m-i-n-d

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.

by Troy O on Dec 7, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Petrus was great on Sun, and Boothe has improved

David Baas is turning out to be a terrible signing at first glance, and we gave him a lot of money. If he doesn’t do anything next year, he will officially be a waste.

So who’s replacing Kenny Phillips…Deon Grant?

by Rev. Uniek on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

You know its going to be Deon Grant

It would be too much to ask to give sash some well deserved playing time.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather it be Grant.........

seeing how he can’t play corner or LB. So slow it’s not even funny!!! Sash is for the future and the future is not now for him.

TCB
Van Pelt on the tackle....
Wide right forever.....
18 and 1 GIANT lose.......

by zoosloose on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Its weel 13, this is the future.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

week*

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Week 13 is the now and Sash.......

hasn’t proven he’s ready. He’ll stay on ST and spot duty for now.

TCB
Van Pelt on the tackle....
Wide right forever.....
18 and 1 GIANT lose.......

by zoosloose on Dec 7, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you see him on specials??

Yeah, hes ready to play….he was probably the most ready safety in the past draft, dont be fooled. If Price is ready to play, so is he.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Prince*

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you seen the rookie LB's in coverage?

I don’t need to see a rookie safety. And comparing a guy who was supposed to be a top 10 pick with a late round draft pick is unfair to Sash.

It could be worse. I could be a Jets fan.

by Madhops on Dec 7, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it really??

Why was Sash a late round pick? please tell me, he had more picks than the top two CB’s combined.

Also a rookie safety in coverage should never be compared to a rookie LB in coverage…apples to oranges.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we get a "Back to the Future" GIF, please?

Fester…you must be busy hanging Christmas lights.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll do it

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 7, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

NIce

That really hits the spot.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

yea…maybe Sash will be in there for some plays because i’m sure we’ll still be going 5 DBs.

Oh no…more Will Blackmon covering guys. =-/

Is Laurent Robinson out? Hopefully. Just put Ross on Austin & Webster on Dez all night, and hope for the best.

We need that pressure on Romo. Lord knows he’ll make mistakes.

by Rev. Uniek on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Robinson is playing sorry, and so is that Jason guy

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Dec 7, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

and one would assume Robinson will be playing a larger role than Miles right?

since this is Miles’ first game back. But our DC will probably base on entire gameplan on Miles because hes…special.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 7, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Miles is the only true #1 on the team.

If he’s healthy he’ll fall right back into things. Him and Romo have that connection. Which it would appear they held him out last week just incase. So we all expect big things from him.

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Dec 7, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

nice...

It’d be called the “hammer toss defense”

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

So i told RV about the article at Ultimate NYG

and I asked him why his analysis (while he fully admitting he doesn’t even know what took place on the Drive TD) doesn’t address Fewell for the scheme. Just as ULtimateNYG did.

he told me and I quote “but Fewell is missing a lot of pieces” and “at some point, players just gotta play the scheme Fewell sees best”

the Giants Defense currently ranks 29th in Yards
29th vs. the Pass
23rd vs. the Run
28th in Points.

and Fewell is untouchable ?!?!? Or Hold up, am i to believe that a healthy TT and Goff make that MUCH a difference? Or am i just supposed to believe some pipe dream that somehow it’s expected that a team never IR’s a defensive starter?

His defense is getting WORSE with age. Last year somehow they ranked top 10 in many categories…W/ Exception of course to POINTS….the most important stat.

This year the D can’t stop a nose bleed and what do we get for analysis? “It’s on the Players”.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

I mean, do i really need to remind folks about who played in our Secondary in '07? '08?

because I will…I have time.

or how about this, should i remind readers about the ’09 season?

because Sheridan the idiot boy had the Giants ranked 14th in Yards, 14th vs. the Pass, 15th vs. the Run, and 30th in Points.

Fewell is right on pace w/ Sheridan’s first year as a DC….

FIRE FEWELL.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you gotta do a little more research

Was the defense in 07 aided by a clock eating running game?

Is this one?? how long in comparison was that defense on the field compared to this one??

How many rookies compared to vets? and how many key injuries??

and stop putting sheridan in the same breath as Fewell….no way.

Fire Fewell?? naw, add Fire to the Fewell…thats all

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

did '07 have the '11 Eli Manning?

Does the Giants HORRIFIC 3rd down percentages have something to do w/ the amount of time they’re on the field?

Fewell…Sheridan…so what. What has Perry accomplished that gives him that sort of luxury?

But what have his players accomlished? what has Tuck done? Webster? Ross? Osi?

if anyone deserves a pass because of “reputation” it’s the NY Giants players w/ the rings on their hands….not some DC who got the Buffalo Bills to lead the league in INTs one year.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting the Bills to lead anything is no easy task especially with no offense at all

Yes 07 had Eli manning…..did last year have Eli?? you should be thanking a man than fielded a top ten defense when his offense had a million turnovers. Thats what he accomplished, how soon we forget.

Its easy to come down on him but lets be real here….. I bet you love GB defense but the only reason no one comes down on Dom Capers is because his offense is amazing……

Perry is not without fault but its also not all his fault.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

THANK YOU Perry Fewell for having a run of the mill Defense last year when The Giants turned the ball over 40 times. Let’s ignore the fact that your Defense (thanks to your Defensive Line) lead the league in Takeaways. No, that is not important! we shall only discuss how the Offense hampered your success.

Now that’s outta the way, what should I be doing for this season? Forget mediocre. Giants D is Bottom 5! Kowtow to the guy?

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

and to stay on turnovers

if the Giants being -3 Differential in turnovers last year caused them to be mediocre

this year they are +4….and a laughing stock.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

3rd Down

This D cannot get itself off the field! They are awful on Third Downs!

by BLUEYOU on Dec 7, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

3rd down %

last 3 games has been more than 55%. we’re 18th in league for the year. i thought we would be much worse

by section_112 on Dec 7, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yup looked it up

I saw that too, those last 3 games are horrific.
18th in the league is not the worst but it should be much better.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 7, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

3 man rush

on 3rd downs is mind boggling. Spags would not dream of doing it as much as Fewell.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 7, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He did it about the same amout of times just at different times.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

would rather see them

throw caution to the wind and send a blitz package than sit back in this

by section_112 on Dec 7, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

mix them up

and if he is worried about different “looks” he can change up the blitz packages

by BLUEYOU on Dec 7, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Cant knock that

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 7, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I, for one, am finding this little investigative tangent you're on interesting

Because you’re 100% right IMO. The Giants have a lot of injuries, its true. But on defense there are 2 that REALLY make a difference (2 and a half if you count whatever has been going on with Tuck, but its hard to count that since he’s still playing). And they haven’t just been “average” they’ve been terrible. Even against the run, which… I can’t remember the last time the Giants were terrible against the run.

(Just looked it up, they haven’t been bad against the run since 2004)

by Oppenheimer919 on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i know i come across as a nut w/ an agenda

but ask anyone….as critical as i am of Fewell, i’m also very supportive.

I lauded him earlier in the season when he started pressing w/ Webster.

I defended this whole “hey, maybe it takes time” movement.

but enough is enough….after he threw his players under the bus last week i’m done with him.

even if the Giants make the playoffs, we dont’ have the defensive scheme to go anywhere. and even if we did (kinda like what he brought vs. Philly and GB), he won’t stick with it. He’s proven that time and time again.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You bring up good points

and its entertaining to read, regardless. Besides its the internet what better place to act like a nut?

by Oppenheimer919 on Dec 7, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He won't stick with it.

For me that is the most frustrating aspect of Fewell and his play calling.

It’s like he either ignores or doesn’t recognize what is working best….

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 7, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

not smart

to fire fewell if we do we have to start all over who do you think is going to take his place it takes a year to gel.

by muttsey88 on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

this i agree with, but he's gonna be on the clock next year

Perry Fewell’s scheme is really LB heavy, and we don’t have LBs…and it intentionally is not the organization’s strength. So, is Fewell the right guy for this job? I’m believing in him less every time, and he fails to adjust/seems easy to read.

by Rev. Uniek on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry about Perry next year

Because if this team doesn’t make the playoffs this staff is gone.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 7, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

it takes a year to gel?

you sound like Pat Hanlon

A) Fewell is on his 2nd Year
B) I guess we’re forgetting that Spags had his Defense playing at an extremely high level in less than a year. and beat one of the best Offenses of all time. Sorry, didn’t beat them. Pounded them.

people forget in ’07 the Giants had two new Coordinators.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I would give my left acorn

to have Stevie D back in town…

nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

He's looking like he's not ready to be a HC out there

and i didn’t feel he was ready for that when he left for STL.

I was really hoping he’d stay here & wait to take Coughlin’s place. I don’t want Cowher. He won’t make a difference, and isn’t a better “coach” than Coughlin.

by Rev. Uniek on Dec 7, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

forget gelling...how bout an improvement?

the D has gotten WORSE from last year to this year!!!

you’d like to say “well, the giants had some tough teams this year” but look at what these losers QBs did to us!!

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Zackly! PF has been outcoached ( aside from the Bears game last year and we know why)

Quoting Mr. Valentine after the Colts defensive debacle. To me everything still the same on defense.

The Coaching Staff — God, I hate to sound like Jeremy Shockey, but the Giants absolutely did not look ready to play Sunday night. It’s as disturbed as I’ve ever been watching a Tom Coughlin team. In a game I thought set up well to give the Giants a chance at what would have been an upset, it was obvious from the opening drive that they had no chance. A lot of that is on TC, who you guys know I believe is a terrific coach. I have no idea what the Giants were thinking, or trying to accomplish, Sunday night.

What was going on with Perry Fewell’s defense? I understood the plan — which was play pass first and use your front four to contain whatever running the usually pass-happy Colts tried to do. But, Perry, when you are getting absolutely gashed on the ground you have to adjust. Fewell stayed with the two-linebacker set until the third quarter, when it was way too late. The first real ‘chess match’ challenge for the Giants new defensive coordinator, and he flunked. Miserably.

.

.

Defensive Line — Zero pass rush. Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis spent the night dominating the Giants offensive line, while Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora never got near Peyton Manning. On top of which, I don’t care about Tuck’s seven tackles (or even liebacker Michael Boley’s 15). They don’t matter when you are getting pushed five or 10 yards down the field before you make them.

by Bavaro 89 on Dec 7, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yep ,thats our dude.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.

by Troy O on Dec 7, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Jim Leavitt

Firey guy, former USF head coach and current 49 LB coach. I think he would fit here.

by DooshLaLoosh on Dec 7, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Texans got a new D-Coordinator this year

and Philips has them as one of the best defenses in football. This year to gel crap is a bunch of B.S.

by rozzz5 on Dec 7, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont want him to be on the starting O-Line

but I rather not have him dealing with a serious injury either. Hope the guy gets better.

-Giants-I bELIeve in this team. Playoffs are in sight all they have to do is fight for it. Keep Baas on the sidelines.
-Rangers-I like to think back to when Thorton called the Rangers soft and LOL! The FAs the Rangers have gotten are nice but this team has built its strength from within.

by Livestrong77nyy on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

I hope Baas gets better

but the line has been better without him. Now only our tackles are killing us.

World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.

by Drizzzy on Dec 7, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

Just imagine what Eli and Romo stats would be like with Bradys line.

Both teams are facing questionable lines and both teams have pass rushing beast. Will be one of those games for sure

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Dec 7, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

neither Romo nor Eli have that little Sidestep move up move

that Brady has, so I suspect they would be about the same.

by maraman on Dec 7, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

neither have his pocket..

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"No one gives us the right, we take it." L. ~SPN

by thebigham on Dec 7, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Strongly disagree.

Actually I completely disagree. Unless I am misunderstanding what you wrote.

Eli is as good as any QB in football at finding throwing lanes by slide stepping, stepping up, etc.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 7, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Beatty at RT

and then draft a total beast for LT

It could be worse. I could be a Jets fan.

by Madhops on Dec 7, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Beatty is an athletic tackle.

Perfectly suited to be LT. Our RT should be a road grader like Mac was for several years.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 7, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

McKenzie had a great year last year...

that is what makes his play this year so confusing. The only problem with him last year was his personal foul – I think against the Titans.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

MacKenzie

Sure glad we didn’t cut him last year, he was our BEST lineman by far

by dubsrub on Dec 7, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Kenny Phillips

Just read that Phillips feels he can play Suday. He does not have pain in his knee and was running and riding the bike during practice today. I don’t know if the trainers and TC will let him play but these are good signs

by jrainone7 on Dec 7, 2011 3:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Great

He will probably have to give a 30 yard cushion now, just to be sure guys don’t get behind him for “the big play”

Overrated and a big issue for us.

by dubsrub on Dec 7, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Jenkins called Brandon Jacobs a "big bully who talks too much." Jenkins feels bullied by Jacobs, lulz.

Also Hugh Douglas just called the Eagles a “fruitcake”

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 7, 2011 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Hear he did pretty good job

shutting down Fitz last Sunday. Hope we find his weaknesses and exploit them.

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Dec 7, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that's hilarious

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What the heck?

Beatty has a detached retina, Andrews has blood clots, now this??? What is going on? I mean, that is just some bad luck.

by CCE718 on Dec 7, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

Football Gods decided to get creative. Were getting bored with just going ACL every time.

I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.

by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 7, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I'm expecting the equipment manager

to get the teams’ cups confused with Blacky Lawless’s

by Raptor22 on Dec 7, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

A WASP reference!

Impressive indeed!

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 7, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we get Beckum some targets this week? PLURAL!

Let’s make those Cowboys LBs go out in coverage against an athletic TD.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 7, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

Beckum is athletic?

by Giantstep on Dec 7, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

only on tuesdays

"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid

by nyg94 on Dec 7, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Goddamn... They need to get out of NJ

There’s gotta be something in the water down there. Just let the Jest have the stadium and build a new one somewhere else. I vote somewhere in the Catskills, maybe near Albany? (for training camp convenience)

by Raptor22 on Dec 7, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

get well guys, but they still have games to play

and last week was probably the best O-line performance they’ve had all season.

next man up. This is the first of four that they need if they wann make the playoffs, so I don’t want to here any BS whining about injuries… just finsh the job!

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Dec 7, 2011 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Finish the Job?

Start the job is more like it. This will not be easy. Got to find way to keep Ware away from Eli. With our OLine thats not a given. And got to stop Murray and running game and those Dallas receivers. Tuck’s gonna have to step up. Romo playing well. Expect this one to go down to wire, if we win and Dallas could blow us out. Too many “experts” are picking Big Blue to win this game. Makes me nervous.

DavebrownNOT

by marfar on Dec 7, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, Finish it

they started back when the lockout ended… Now they got the fourth quarter of the season to get the job done that they set out to do, win the F’n East.

Ain’t gonna be easy, but…

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Dec 7, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what position Ugoh

thinks he can play if anyone on the O-line goes down

by maraman on Dec 7, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

So Fewell will rush 3 this week again and get gashed. Hope Eli can get the ball last because that seems like the only way we win games this year. Our defense should be embarrassed and do not take their jobs seriously. OSI needs to man up he been nickel and dime it all year. he should be first to go in off season. I only wish we had Ware on our team.

by Giantstep on Dec 7, 2011 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Lol
“He says that because maybe he wants to play here,” Ware said of Tuck. “Everybody wants to play for the Cowboys. If I wasn’t playing for Cowboys I would call it that too because I want to play for them.”

Just… lol

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2011 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

HA!

That’s a ridiculous statement. Its common knowledge that everyone wants to be on the Eagles.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 7, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Great article

The Fifth Down is one of the best NFL blogs.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 7, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope Baas turns out Ok

But the flip side of this is:

1) Baas has not been good since he has been here. Strictly talking about his play, he gets blown back alot, and has struggled overall. When you see both guards playing badly, that comes back on the center. A big part of the centers job is to help the guards.

2) The fact he is out every other week and the center is the signal caller has hurt this line because we never have continuity.

3) The line played its best last week, they need to stay in that configuration and get reps to improve. Petrus is the future, he needs to be in there. Hopefully we stay with this line, and they gel and improve. To me its a joke to put Baas back in at this point.

I have said before, I think Boothe is a better player than Baas.

by dubsrub on Dec 7, 2011 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

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