Coughlin Talks About Injuries, Mitch Petrus, Lost Challenges And More
by Ed Valentine on Dec 5, 2011 5:12 PM EST
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PrintHere are some nuggets from New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin's Monday afternoon press conference.
Let's go through the injury stuff first.
Coughlin said safety Kenny Phillips was having his knee examined at the Hospital for Special Surgery, and that he was not sure the severity of Phillips' injury. "I don't know ... honestly because you have seen them jump up and run off the field and the next day it is an ACL," Coughlin said.
Now we know why Prince Amukamara was not on the field at the end of Sunday's game. Amukamara has an ankle injury, and was experiencing soreness in his surgically repaired foot. Spencer Paysinger has a hamstring injury.
Finally, Coughlin was asked about Stacy Andrews, hospitalized Saturday night due to pumonary embolisms in both lungs. Andrews will be placed on injured reserve, ending the veteran lineman's season.
"It is a very, very serious medical condition," Coughlin said. "he just can't go back to football right now and I am not sure that he has even been told."
Coughlin was impressed by the work of second-year player Mitch Petrus, pressed into service by the rash of injuries on the Giants' offensive line.
"It wasn't perfect, but you see his power, you see his ability and you see him up against some really good defensive people who are really big, sizeable defensive linemen. He plays well against them and I like his attitude and the way he went about it. There were no big eyes or anything, he just went to work. He trusted himself, he trusted his preparation. You know now that he does prepare and when given the opportunity, he played well," Coughlin said.
The coach also complemented Kevin Boothe, who moved from guard to center at the last minute when David Baas could not play.
"How do you not recognize what this guy has done. Whatever you ask him to do, he does it. With five minutes notice or with no notice, he just goes and plays," Coughlin said.
Coughlin said Monday he is still convinced Jake Ballard had a touchdown on a play he challenged and lost.
"We're going to challenge [Ballard's catch in the end zone] because I just saw a picture which made me sick to my stomach, which FOX produced and showed that he's in. Don't ask me about that because I really don't know why, but I did see the picture. And the second one, I really shouldn't have challenged. It was right on our sideline, but it was a third and three and I was very much aware of where the ball was going, where it was headed and if there was any way that could have been turned around and they were hurrying up to the ball to snap it. So I really didn't get a great call from upstairs," Coughlin said. "I've been overly aggressive with those calls, not waiting for any kind of advice from upstairs. It seems like we've had a series of things that have not been clear and even when the pictures are there, not been really clear, that I've gone ahead and challenged anyway. I've done so for a number of reasons, but last night I challenged the Ballard thing. No question about that. I wasn't going to not challenge that and then have somebody tell me, ‘Did you know he was in?' "
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Damn, Ed, I can't wait for the Dallas coverage to start.
This is getting more painful by the minute re: Ballard TD.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions
Or asign blame to its proper place
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22
so...w/ a pick 6
and a Giants defense that couldn’t stop GB on 3rd down.
the Refs are the ones who made TC “sick to his stomach”…on a call, that IMO looked correct at the time?
I know he’s trying to support his players, especially after losing so many games in a row and being taken to task by their DC but….hey it happens.
for the record, the only footage I saw that would make me think Ballard got his knee in during the game…there was actually blue pellets that kicked up on one replay that made it seem that his knee was in.
but from every other angle, it looked (to me) that his knee landed on the line. I did not think that play was getting reversed at all.
Fire Fewell
giants got zero calls yesterday
amukamura interference borderline. williams interference bad call. no call on woodson on the nicks td(he was accosting him), ballard td.. zero calls yesterday. maybe this hokie non call on fg to end to e=he first half.
aikman and bucks challenge annalysis is like to drunk guys at a bar who gamble on games. zero thoughtfulness, sero insight. ie driver foot out back of end zone camera was from in front so no way it would show his back heel, the jennings out of bounds on 3rd down, ie did his tush hit out of bounds before he had possesion.,
Mitch Petrus
“It wasn’t perfect, but you see his power, you see his ability and you see him up against some really good defensive people who are really big, sizeable defensive linemen. He plays well against them and I like his attitude and the way he went about it.
That’s what I like to see. This line needs maulers. People who take it to the D.
It could be worse. I could be a Jets fan.
Know TC he probably had to change his undees after seeing
Mitch Petrus get the push that he did. Id be surprised if he is not our new LG from this point on. Wonder how well Boothe can play RT?
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
Let's see Petrus do it again before we declare the LG spot his
Good game by him most def.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 5, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
should have used that font.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
AAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 5, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Gets on my nerves that I called for Petrus to replace Diehl weeks ago
He filled ion well last year too.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
TC: loyal to a fault, stubbornness, fear of change, what else?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
he over values continuity on the OL
when guys are getting physically beat, good communication only goes so far.
Petrus is experienced with this system and not a rookie. He’s a tougher more physical guy at LG than Diehl.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Good game by Giants
They showed up to play, unlike at the Saints and Eagles games. Can’t ask for much more( except a W).
With our O line struggling, I always wondered why Petrus didn’t get a chance to play. Maybe with Shawn Andrews out, we’ll see a little Brewer.
Congrats to Beckum, who I’ve trashed recently. That was a great run after catch.
Loved hearing that Cowboys iced their own kicker! Let’s go, Big Blue!
Meant Stacy Andrews
Bring back Shawn? look now well Blackburn did.
by scarlet knight on Dec 5, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
holy crap, andrews
pulmonary embolisms in both lungs? best of luck to him, sounds pretty bad.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
if Tolly and Osi are out, who else do we have for DE?
Don’t think Tuck and JPP can do it themselves.
off the top of my head:
Move Kiwi to DE, have trattou back them up, promote Adrian Tracy to SAM.
by Raptor22 on Dec 5, 2011 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
beat me to it
i really hope there’s no more kiwi movement. the kid’s finally getting comfortable at the LB position.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Trattou
and possibly (please god no) kiwi
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
off the top of my head:
Move Kiwi to DE, have trattou back them up, promote Adrian Tracy to SAM.
by Raptor22 on Dec 5, 2011 5:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
anybody got
A link to that pic of Ballard?
by Eli10 on Dec 5, 2011 6:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
https://twitter.com/#!/NYG_J_Ballard85/status/143796211873349632/photo/1
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I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
I'm starting to think
that the 5 guys we had starting on the O-Line last night are the best 5 we’ve had together since last season.
Fields, on the follow!
This next game at Dallas
will be the last (unofficial) road game of the season. I’m really hoping Giants/MetLife Stadium treats us well…
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
So, Phillips is going to miss 1-2 weeks with the sprained knee?
That sucks
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I don't understand why Diehl is better at LT than at LG.
Also for those of you that think Boothe is better than Baas at C, I doubt it. Too many high snaps, and Baas was just as good at pass protection as Boothe was. Run blocking I’d say they were on par. That being said, I love Boothe. Always have, and said before the season he should be a huge priority. Reese came out and said he was. Most versatile lineman, and I think he should be starting over Petrus at LG. Petrus should get some time subbing in for Boothe and Snee, and as an extra lineman.
Also, for those knocking Baas on headaches…with the way the NFL is regarding the amount of hits to the head, the Giants did the smart, safe, and not to mention, classy, move by sitting him just in case. Who knows what that could be. Percy Harvin has sat out a multitude of games for migraines. Jerome Harrison diagnosed with a brain tumor. Have to be safe.
Diehl – Boothe – Baas – Snee – McKenzie looks like a trainwreck, but it might work.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 6:35 PM EST reply actions
last minute headache
not a concussion from the previous week.
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 5, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Also, any word on who we bring in for Andrews?
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 6:39 PM EST reply actions
Don't send Dan G at ESPN the Ballard Photos
LOL
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/33603/please-stop-sending-me-the-ballard-photo
Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 5, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions
Hahaha
If the giants were in the packers position he would be crying about the call endlessly.
Or if it was Eagles he would be asking to go to supreme court
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
Inconsistency
When the Giants were winning, he talked about all of the little plays that allowed the Giants to just get by with a win.
For this game he doesn’t think that one play that took 7 away from NY and one play that gave 7 to GB matter.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
he tweeted that 5 secs after I sent him the picture.
I guess I burned him so hard, he felt the need to write a column on it. Bozo.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he was cool....
brought more knowledge to the plate than Mosley which was good.
but he’s so bitch made….it’s disgraceful.
Fire Fewell
dude tried to throw shade on me because i use “…” a lot. It’s just what I do. and it’s a blog.
Fire Fewell
lol.
I tried posting a few comments, but then I was like “nahhhh not worth it.”
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
He won't admit he's wrong. That's the only thing.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if...
He’s heard that TC said that pic/call makes him sick to his stomach… I guess if graziano thinks he’s a better GM than Reese (which he does), there’s no reason why he can’t also be a better and more knowledgeable coach than Tom Coughlin.
by Raptor22 on Dec 5, 2011 9:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
DG is the best football mind in football ever
sarcasm font
New York Football Giants Zindabad!
Let's Go Giants!
but only for certain values of "best"
In fact his football mind is so good that he’s sneaking up on ‘bad’ from behind.
The same is also true of hoe* buck.
(*virtual keyboard error that was entertainong enough to keep)
by Raptor22 on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This game shows why Giants fans who complain about a supposed lack of talent are wrong
With all of the injuries the Giants have had, they still managed to take a team on a 17-game winning streak to the very last minute. Am I supposed to believe that a lack of talent is why they couldn’t beat Seattle and Philly, two games they should have won? Was it talent that caused the drubbing at NO? Is it because Reese didn’t get the right player in FA or draft the right player in the 2010 or 2011 draft? Nonsense.
The simple explanation is that the Giants don’t play to their talent on a consistent basis. Coughlin’s message works intermittently. The disconnect between he and the players cannot be ignored. Sometimes he gets through to them and sometimes he doesn’t. You never know which Giants team is going to show up.
By the way, can someone explain to me why Beckum didn’t get more targets after his TD? The Packers were missing their two starting LBs and were starting – get this – a rookie 6th-round pick as the MIKE. Sound familiar? The Giants should have gone after the middle of the field all day.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
For the record
I’m not saying that Reese didn’t make mistakes. I’m saying that those mistakes aren’t why the Giants are 6-6.
He drafted Petrus. He drafted Beckum. It’s Coughlin who has to play them.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
When Bekum ran in for that TD I was shocked.
And then he went bye bye. I don’t get it.
Actually I do. It’s our HC.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
But how can we complain about the offensive output?
With Bekum on the field we would have scored more?
I don’t think so. The defense is among the worst in football, I am sad to say.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
we can't complain. We've shown that Eli spreads the ball around to whoever is open.
The aerial attack is the least of our problems.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
dropped catches piss me off.
Also, inconsistency. I hate it. Though I can’t really justify changing anything about the aerial attack.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
There were a few 3 and outs during the game
because Gilbride called for deep passes instead of going for the first down. That worked yesterday but the Giants offense can look anemic when it doesn’t.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
that's true. I dunno why we can't call just a conventional screen pass
instead of these damned bubble and slip screens….
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
exactly. There's not much creativity that goes on up in Killdrive's head.
Though he hasn’t been terrible…there’s room for improvement
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think he has a lot to do w/
personnel and play calling
I think the past few weeks we should have had more 3 WRs looks but only this past week did we really show that (yes i’m taking about Ramses Barden)
Coughlin said he wanted Jacobs to get more carries last year. If KG is controlling who’s running the ball is it a stretch to think that he’s controlling a lot other aspects of the Offense? i.e. the WRs? Oline? I mean, people fault TC for being loyal to these Olinemen but KG defends the Oline like a rabid dingo, and KG shits on everyone!
idk. I think KG runs this offense how he sees fit and I think TC gives him a pre game plan to follow but once there in the heat of battle it’s KG’s show.
Fire Fewell
This has bothered me all year
It’s even more annoying when he kills a drive by doing that on 3rd & 2. Nicks & Barden would be tough to stop on slants with their size/strength but we rarely use those to pick up small chunks of yards when we need it.
Maybe the short passes were covered since that would be the logical throw.
Eli will throw the deep ball any day if the receiver gets the single high coverage. He likes the deep ball as long as the receiver is one on one. Heck remeember that Mannigham missed TD throw that Manningham admitted that he should’ve dove for it.
ultimately everything comes back to the HC
but if you’re asking me who i think is responsible for personnel and players playing….
I think it’s the Coordinators.
I simply don’t think TC is that hands on in terms of IN game decisions.
Fire Fewell
After Giants fans saw Beckum get that TD
they were probably thinking, “OK. There’s NO way we’re losing today!”
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I thought I had the wrong channel on
Someone else was wearing Beckum’s number.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 6, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
If the Giants don't make the playoffs, the coaches may go, but the GM may stay
Right now, I’m not a fan of Swiss Cheese Zone proponent Fewell.
Hard to argue against the aerial attack of the offense.
If we for some reason get rid of Jerry Reese after this season, we've set our team back for the next 5 years.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
I knew I shouldn’t have commented on APC, but I did after packer fans were complaining that they were the side getting hosed by the refs…
I’ve stopped commenting and no one should bring it up again… but there’s no way a sane person could say the Giants didn’t get the short end of the stick.
__
Petrus looked good from what I can tell.
Amazing that two starters go down, along with depth and we still have an o-line better than some teams.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22
I didn't bother to correct them because it would be futile to do so. Every fan sees things against their team.
I know were were clearly hosed on a few calls, but we DID mug Finley a bunch of times. And to be fair, the Hynoski thing was kind of weird.
Our non-calls/replay derps affected the game more though, no doubt.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 5, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I realize that
So I really didn’t want to comment… but I got the best of myself. Ugh sunday can’t come soon enough
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
[Jake Ballard] has 4 speeds actually:
Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
-Raptor 22
Yeah and I am ticked that the PI did not get called on this play
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 5, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Some of your best work right there, Fes.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
that one of Sandusky's old flicks?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'm just curious if anyone recalls at the beginning of the game...
the giants were using a lot of Zone Defense in the secondary and I believe one play was rather successful and Rodgers had to throw it away. The replay showed literally, one of the most complex, coordinated efforts I have seen on Defense in a really long time the way the CBs were handing their respective WR’s over to the S’s and than turning around and covering the underneath routes that were crossing their way. You wonder why we see these blown routes?!?!
Fire Fewell
Aikman said it himself on Driver's 2nd TD
You can’t rush 3 and put everyone else in a zone for that long against top QBs. Eventually someone will be open and the QB will find him.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
don't get me started on that play...
but i’m talkign about earlier in the game.
they slow motioned it and everything…it was crazy. the coordination that went into it. the timing, the physical ability it took to cover multiple players in a certain “zone”.
it was remarkable it worked actually. honestly. Even the LBs covered on that one.
Fire Fewell
It's a hard thing to do, for sure.
Fewell is just one of those guys that believes scheme solves everything. Sometimes this can be the case, but usually simplifying things and playing aggressive works more often.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Kareem McKenzie seems to be dead weight this year
I saw him make so little effort against Matthews on many of those pass plays. Aikman pointed it out. Is he hurt?
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Embolisms
2 years ago my closest friend and fellow NYG fan perished from pulminary embolisms. He was only 48. It was right before that years SB and my phone rang with his ID on it. I was just heading into the shower and figured he was calling to invite me to a SB party at his house. When I listened to the voice mail I couldn’t and still don’t believe what his wife told me. Andrews playing days are over. He would be very fortunate to come out of this alive. I wish him all the best. R.I.P Mike. Love ya bro.
Sorry for your loss, fellow Giant fan
There are more important things than football. hope andrews is ok.
by scarlet knight on Dec 5, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
His playing days are over?
Obviously it’s serious if not caught in time but did’nt Serena Williams have the same thing this past year? She missed time but came back and competed in Wibeldon and the US Open.
Right before the SB?
That sucks. Young man, too…
Sorry you lost your buddy that way.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
If we go 3-1, I think we could be division champ or wild card
Chicago, detroit, Atlanta faltering.
I love being vindicated....
I won’t name names but there are 3 specific people here who ALWAYS say my ref bashing is ridiculous and that we never get screwed…..to them I say….HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!?!? BALLARD’S CATCH WAS A TD AND THAT CALL COST US THE GAME.
I hear you, and it sucks when a call or non-call effects a game that much.
But can the defense make a stop at the end of the game? Is this too much to ask?
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Petrus
was a breath of fresh air at the Oline imo, but wow I don’t like blaming referees for losses, but that Ballard play downright disgusts me, especially after all that bs review on every score rule.
"Hey Petr, Smrdíš jako prase!" -Bobby Granger
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