McShay Releases First Mock Draft
You will never guess what he has the Giants drafting in the first round.
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i disagree
the G-men need a star RB or a Star OT
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LOL!
It’s way too early for this debate. BPA!
by Ed Valentine on Dec 21, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
that's my Landeta
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2011 6:58 AM EST up reply actions
they're going to lose 4 hours before kickoff
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2011 6:58 AM EST up reply actions
Lamar Miller
in round one. The only “star” OT for us to pick is Osemele since the top 3 will be gone. I’m not too high on him
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Just get Demetrius Bell from the Bills and Jacob Tamme from IND at TE
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Burfict benched and demoted to 2nd string for dogging it in practices and playing undisciplined.
Gives up on plays too and has problems with coaches. Not exactly the “leader” we need. McShay is slacking.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 21, 2011 8:57 PM EST reply actions
Who says they'd draft him to be a leader
Sounds like a strong side backer to me, let’s em move Kiwi to RDE, JPP to LDE, Osi trade bait and Tuck rehabs
When Tuck gets healthy he’s a guy who can be moved around to create havoc.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
LMAO
No way Jeffery (pre-combine analysis here) lasts to 22, and I’m doubting Burfict even gets drafted in the 1st.
Physical freak, and a vicious hitter, but also a notorious nipplehead. You just can’t go around giving 1st downs like they’re candy. Dude also has yet to learn the finer points of playing LB (ie: not headbutting refs, or any tactic other than launching yourself at another player like a human missile).
I’d MUCH rather have Luke Kuechly (LB, BC) or Zach Brown (LB, UNC).
I'd rather have Kuechly too
He and and a healthy Herz would make a nice pairing alongside Boley. However, is he worth of a first-round pick?
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
IMO
Yes. His production is outrageous. He has absolutely elite instincts and football IQ.
However, I think his draft position will be unfairly weighted by his combine. If he shows “surprising athleticism” (code for “hey, a white guy who can run!”) he’s a top 10-15 pick. If his combine is only average, he’ll drop.
Regardless of whether or not he can run in shorts, Kuechly is a football player. He is EVERYWHERE on game day.
Kuechly, a healthy Herz, and a healthy Boley could make for the best 43 LB corp in the league. (on passing downs, kick take Kuechly off and insert JWill.)
Near as I can tell, GM’s look for more reasons why NOT to draft a kid than why they SHOULD. (ie: Prince)
Don't knock the "he can run thing"
Making speed your top or only criteria is as wrong as ignoring it
I’ve seen way too many guys with elite instincts and football IQ that couldn’t get on the field. I’ve got no real opinion on any of these LBs.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Can a team return draft picks from previous drafts?
I don’t have a receipt…my grandmother gave him to me ask a gift and I already have 10 defensive linemen. He’s hardly used and has only torn one ACL…
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Maybe we can take our 17th pick along with Antrel & Diehl and trade down to 18?
Give me an early Christmas present and drop 40+ on the Jets!
CD
by Snead to Tucker on Dec 21, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions
Sintim is on IR
His career might be over. Osi should’ve been traded before this season. After missing so many games, his value is very low.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Osi
I think he can bring back a 3 maybe even a 2, not much different than before
His value is in his contract, that he doesn’t want to honor. Sigh, As the Osi groans, our own soap opera
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
should've traded him to oakland before the carson palmer trade
could’ve gotten at least five 1st round picks
think of marivn austin
as a linebacker. a little bit more crazy but yeah.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I heard some scouts say
a meaner Ray Lewis.
That just has me drooling
lol those scouts are retarded
comparing any LB draft prospect to ray freakin lewis is so stupid
Especially given that they all said Lewis was too small
Talking heads being talking heads
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
They aren’t proven but I really like the thought of beatty and brewer at tackles Petrus and booth at guards with baas at center. We will run the ball next year make no mistake. I kind of like taking RG3 next year( if he slips to 32 which I don’t know if he will or not. I liked him before all the hype but I’m not jr. Also burfict would make sense because boley calls the shots not the middle lb. Emotion is needed in this team
by Gregjonesformvp on Dec 21, 2011 10:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Trade bait for ryan claiddy or however you say his name lol honestly I forgot about him trying to do home work and read at the same time
by Gregjonesformvp on Dec 22, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
Why are we taking Griffith?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
there are so many things wrong with this post
but it can be summed up by looking at your username
where the picks
just in Case HOU @ INDY = HOU
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by j-man on Dec 21, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I would cry if this happen
tears of absolute joy!
But knowing that moron Jerry Reese I wont hold my breath
The guy that took JPP
The guy most people didn’t want? Haven’t there been multiple fan posts that show he has drafted well compared to other gm’s?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 21, 2011 11:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2010 draft is looking pretty good for Reese
JPP, Linval, and Petrus all from that draft, although giants fans will always wonder what could have been if we’d gotten Sean Lee in the 2nd round…holy shit that would have been a hell of a draft.
2011, not so much thus far, but the jury is still very much out.
Go Giants!
2011 draft - the jury is really out on that one
but the 3rd round pick Jernigan smells like Sinorice.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
I wanted Sean Lee
but with Cofield likely out, Joseph was a smart pick.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I didn't like Linval as a prospect
But he’s convinced me he’s a starting caliber DT
He’ll probably get better for another season or two, and become a true 2way DT, though I don’t think a star.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Theres a good chance that Lee wouldnt be the player he is today if he wasnt at Dallas
We dont seem to develop LBs very well at all, so I dont think Lee would look as good with us. And JPP would still be chugging along in anonimity if he had gone to a team that doesnt develop DEs as well as we do
Lost in the playoffs of the BBV fantasy league and ended 3rd overall! Team Figging lived on with its 9-5 regular season record. Beat the (Insert Giants Opponent Here) were just too good to beat.
by ChuckyofNorris on Dec 22, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
ED quick question
we lost quite number of free agents last year.
How many compensatory picks do we get for SS, Boss, Coefield – Baas
LB's, O-Line, and DB's.
Anything else is a waste of a draft pick as far as I’m concerned.
Yepp
If the giants want to keep a deep, elite DE rotation then they need to draft another. It depends on what happens with the linebackers though – if Goff comes back strong, we could go into next season with a strong enough LB lineup to move Kiwi back to DE, which makes things a lot easier. If not, then things get dicey.
Go Giants!
Why is anyone afraid of Kiwi and JPP at DE? Two guys that rush and play the run
I just hope they get at least a 3rd rounder for Osi
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
You also have to consider that both Tuck and Kiwi are 28, though
Not old, but not young anymore.
Go Giants!
After how Osi has "played" this year
Who on earth is going to give up a 3rd rounder?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
I think that could well be the plan
Let Tuck get healthy and bring him back slowly, let JPP take over on the Left and Kiwi the right
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Personally,
I’d rather grab Melvin (lol… Melvin…) Ingram from South Carolina, let him understudy behind Tuck. JPP does his best work at RDE, and I like Kiwi as the joker/wild card.
Whitney Mercilus is another option, but I think he could be gone by the time we pick.
I try not to figure plans based on trades or moves
But I can easily see how moving Kiwi back to DE could open things up going forward
JPP has played very well at LDE,he’s struggled at DT (to my eye) and with more experience it seems like something he could manage.
Also, Joseph has proven his ability, hopefully Austin will be DT #3, if Bernard who has been good can be #2, we may see Canty’s time with the team end. I like Canty, but he really hasn’t played well enough to not get moved.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
If we draft an LB
I’m sure it’ll be a guy that does not fit our system. Probabbly another 3-4 OLB that can pass rush. sounds about right.
yeah!
Like Herzlich, Jones, and Jack-Will
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2011 7:04 AM EST up reply actions
Run to Vegas to make that prop bet
You’ll be rich
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
If Reese is still in charge
He’ll probably just draft whoever was “supposed” to go sooner regardless of if that player fits the organization or will legitimately improve the team.
I was laughing but that did work with JPP
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
So you're saying that when the Giants have 5 CBs on IR
a CB in the draft wasn’t a good move? Prince missed so much because of the foot injury but that wasn’t Reese’s fault.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
So you're saying Reese can see the future?
None of these guys were out at the time of the draft, so your comment is meaningless.
That's interesting
You’ve frequently denigrated Terrell Thomas and I think we can all agree that Ross doesn’t cut it. Therefore, cornerback was very much a position of need as much as it was a value pick. And with most of your money invested in the D-line and secondary the linebackers are less important. But with all the injuries and below par performances to the secondary and D-line then the weakness at linebacker becomes glaring. If we had the anticipated D-line rotation of Tuck, Kiwi, Osi and Jpp playing at or near their expected effectiveness and a healthy secondary, the linebacking weakness would be far less noticeable.
by Tucker Fredrickson on Dec 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
you obviously missed the memo
The Giants had the best LB core in the ’80’s, so any defense that doeant feature at least All-Pro if not HoF lbers is not really a Giants defense.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like Phillips, whoops nope
Or perhaps Ross, uhhh no again
Maybe Nicks? Nope
Just looking at last years results and ignoring the total history isn’t convincing. Every year JR has addressed need in the first round, right up until JPP, but that sure turned into a need his rookie year.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
+1
these JR haters want an All-Pro at every position and at their backup. Not living in reality.
He also does draft for need, every GM does
He just doesn’t chase need, fans are more emotional (it’s our nature)
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Hmm there's your opinion
And then there is fact
2007 CB need check
2008 S need check
2009 WR need check
2010 DE need no (but player selected may be top 3 in draft)
2011 CB need no (a little early to even think about)
You shouldn’t take it personally when he ignores you
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
you make seem as though
these were the only needs these years, including ‘10 and ’11 and it wasn’t. You’re cherry picking some needs and totally ignoring others.
and beside youre only concentrating on the first round of the draft
JR never think about the LB position until the 4th round except 2009 maybe somebody held down JR that year picked Clint Sintim. But even that has turned out to be a bust.
What is he supposed to do? Reach for an LB that he doesn't like? Waste the value of a draft pick to fill a need?
You can’t address every single need with a great player. He’s drafted at least one linebacker in every draft since 2006, with 2011’s draft being the only one he didn’t draft a LB in the 4th round or sooner. He signed Boley as a FA and addressed that need.
You are same kind of fan that bitched and moaned and called JR a moron when he drafted JPP in the 1st round because he didn’t “address a need.” Well we need JPP right now don’t we? Let the man do his job (which he is great at) and stop being unrealistic.
I'd love to see a list of the great 4-3 LBs drafted in the last 5 years
LB play, particularly 4-3 LBs is at an all time low, BEllichick has commented that he hasn’t drafted many LBs because he can’t find ones worth drafting
Same critics that would have sent JPP and 2 future #1s for quite lame McLain.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I focused on he first round, because I don't care if you remain mired in your half truths
Just wanted to point out that JR uses need as much as anyone. BPA isn’t what you think it is and the history bears that out.
If I was cherry pickings would have ignored 2010 and 2011, so NO you’re wrong again
Even in your LB comment you say ooops, except for when he didn’t. I’m sure you knew when he drafted Sintim, he was going to suffer back to back ACLs. This board was littered with comments about how JPP was going to be the worst pick ever, Beatty would never play, blah blah blah. It’s easy to criticize rookies and drafts when you have a coach that doesn’t like to play em much.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Going on the pattern of the past two years
as far as 1st round picks go.
So your complaining that he has drafted the following
A DE who has become one of the best in the NFC
And
A CB that though untrained and confused by our Byzantine schemes, has shown some great speed and skill
Let’s re-visit these picks next year when JPP has a pro bowl under his belt and Prince is a staring CB anchoring he back end. Then it will be a new problem.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Sorry Ed - but I have a hard on for this guy after the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcsffTQojI
McShay makes all the statements I’ve tried to express. A ‘impact player’ – ‘quarterback of the defense’
I just don’t see how he lasts until pick 15-17. Then again – I think a lot of teams will feast on the QB’s coming out this year who missed out last year – Seattle, Fish, Cleveland, Skins ….he might drop as it seems McShay talks about some character issues.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
that first hit was sooooo devastating
that is the way you stick and drive! we haven’t had a linebacker like that since Lawrence Taylor
Reminds me of a young Jessie Armstead with Taylor like 'hunting' speed
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
It's just so early
To predict any of this stuff. We don’t know the draft order, and we know how much guys slide up and down the draft boards. We’ll see.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 22, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
WOW!!
I have heard about the character issues but watching that clip is starting to change my mind. Did you see how he was blowing up guards on the blitz?
Character issues often evaporate on our team
Though post Plax, I’m less inclined to take a FA nut bag.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Please oh Please
We need someone that sets the tone like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6yDDMbW32A&feature=related
AH! Smashed!
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Reese drafts on value
I think it’s well known by now that JR picks players based on value. I don’t think a CB was a pressing first round concern, but when he saw a top 10 talent like Prince drop on his lap, he had no choice. Giants will draft a player most likely on defense that they have ranked highest on their board. I know we need LB help, but if another stud like JPP is available and has higher value, they’ll go with that player.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Which is why we have so many weak positions
by Colefaulk982 on Dec 22, 2011 12:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can't anticipate injuries.
Losing our #1 run stuffer and CB1 is not really something you can prepare for. Granted the problems go beyond a mlb and cb, but this team isn’t the one the front office had intended to be on the field.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
If you're going to draft the top talent then make sure you get what you need in FA before the draft.
Don’t leave a gaping hole that teams can anticipate your draft picks.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Not sure I follow...
Considering FA was after the draft this year.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
this is value
1st Round – CB, S, WR, DE, CB
2nd Round – WR, CB,OT, LB, DT, DT
3rd Round – DT, WR, WR, TE, S, WR
Yes and No
Some guys haven’t lived up to expectation, but would you rather the Giants draft a 2nd or 3rd tier LB over a top flight DE or CB that can make an immediate impact?
I’d like the Giants to draft solid OL, DL, and LB’s.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
by Gmenfan on Dec 22, 2011 12:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pass on TR
I know TR is the top RB coming out, but so was Mark Ingram last year and the Giants passed. Plus we signed Bradshaw to an extension so highly unlikely the Giants would draft him if still available.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Another note
I don’t see the Giants valuing RB’s in the first round either. They’re the one position I feel isn’t worth a first round pick unless it’s an Adrian Peterson or Darren McFadden caliber RB. The last RB selected by the Giants in the 1st round was Ron Dayne in 2000 and look how that turned out.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
yepp
If we drafted some OL talent, I’d be perfectly fine with our 2012 RBs of Bradshaw, Ware, and Scott. I think Scott gets some serious burn next year.
Go Giants!
IIRC Dayne was criminally misused, no?
He was big but didn’t they pretty much use him as a fullback?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
nah
he was criminally suck a tool
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Dec 22, 2011 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
Dude did well in a zone scheme actually with Denver and Houston
We tried to use him as a short yardage back just because he was big, but he sucked at that.
He was a small big back
NFL is littered with guys that could run over college defenders and fail at it in the NFL
Dayne was a mid rounder at best, it was a foolish pick because similar players without hardware went later.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Richardson is at Peterson or McFadden's level
Also Ron Dayne was a terrible pick, Shaun Alexander was the right move that year
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
McFadden's been injury prone
but when healthy this season, he was easily the best RB in the NFL. So uh..pay attention.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Dec 22, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
He can't carry AP's jock!
AP IS the best back in the league despite having his own injury issues AND being in a offense that doesn’t feed him the ball like he should be! EVERY team he plays knows they have to take him out of the game and very few can. He has 16TDs in 11 games, your boy McFadden has 4 in 7 games. So uh yeah, back up your shitty opinions with facts!
by eyerish9299 on Dec 22, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
TDs alone don't make a great back
the hell are you trying to do anyway. Did you even pay attention at all to McFadden this year? No..oh.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
READING COMPREHENSION!!
The fact that TDs don’t make a great back is exactly why I made a second post below! But I see as usual you refuse to acknowledge logic and reason that goes against your ideas. Read my list below and tell me which of those backs you wouldn’t take over McFadden?
I wouldn't take many of those backs over McFadden
probably only McCoy and Peterson. Maybe Gore.
Foster and Charles are a product of the Denver Broncos dime a dozen 1000yd RBs OL scheme, Marshawn Lynch is going for a contract, LOL at Fred Jackson, Ray Rice get the ball a whole lot, same with MJD. Forte you wouldn’t have said this last year, CJ2K will never run for 2K again.
Just cuz you did more research on your own, doesn’t mean you’re not doing it wrong.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
hahaha
upon further research, you’re an even bigger moron then originally thought! Over HALF of McFadden’s rushing yards came in 2 HUGE games. 150 yards against Denver and 171 yards against the Jets! I don’t even think he’s a top 10 running back! AP, Shady, Gore, Foster, Lynch, F Jackson, Rice, MJD, Sproles, Murray, Forte, Charles, CJ2K ALL RB’s who I would take over McFadden.
by eyerish9299 on Dec 22, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
this is the dumbest statement ever
this is like lakers fan thinking andrew bynum will be a great center, “when he’s healthy”…whenever the hell that is
I guess I'm the only one that's seen a Raiders game or two this year
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Richardson
he is not at AP’s level. If that were the case he would be a top 5 pick.
the draft hasn't happened yet
although he’s been projected that high. Also AP wasn’t a top 5 pick, so that doesn’t make sense.
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if Richardson falls
you draft him. You’d be an idiot not to
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Later
Jerry drafts on value, Drafting Richardson 1 and missing out on a top LB, OL, or Dback would be stupid. Runningbacks are a dime a dozen unless you have an AP type which Richardson is not.
Names.
Who are these “top LBzez” we’re missing out on? OLs? Names.
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i kinda agree
if we can reshuffle the OL, a combination of bradshaw and richardson would be ridiculous. our offense would be insane
richardson is overrated
you even have predicate your statement with “if we can reshuffle the OL”
How is Richardson overrated?
Wait, let me guess, you’re going to fault Richardson by saying he has a great OL, like its under his control or something. My point is that if we continue to reshuffle our OL like we have been (Moving Diehl to LT, getting Petrus and Boothe in the mix) and return to being a somewhat competent run blocking offensive line, a combination of Bradshaw and Richardson would be dirty. Almost every RB ever needed a good run blocking OL to succeed and Richardson would be GREAT with that.
But according to your draft philosophy we should just draft the best LB even if he’s not worth the pick.
He reminds me of Mark Ingram
Obvi both playing at Alabama has a lot to do with it, but regardless—-there is no way in hell that guy falls that low in the draft. He’s projected Top 5, worst case Top 10. It’s a fun debate, but that’s like saying what if Andrew Luck is available when it’s the Giants turn.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Didn't you say that about Ingram last year
RBs fall in the draft cause they are so hard to eval. Between OL, Offense, opponents it’s tough to know whose talent really translates to 1st round talent. If the pro GMs can’t do it, what makes any of us think we can?
Add in you get excellent guys in rd 2 and stars even later, it’s value drops.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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If Burflict can learn how to hit and not lead with his helmet
I’ll take him. I wouldn’t mind a mean motherf*cker on the field for once.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Burfict is a ninny
although to be fair, the Giants could a real mean assholes on this defense.
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It's following instructions
When a guy free lances he makes some great plays, but can expose the other 11. If Burfict gets on script he’ll be a dynamo.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
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LB why we are so good against the run
And protect the middle of the field just fine with 6 rd draft picks, unsigned free agents and a possiblely pro bowl DE playing LB. Plus with Fewell mastermind scheme of rushing 3 beening so successful, I say we just put 11 CBs and safeties on field and stop going after the QB apparently this gives them more time to find an open reciever. Because our goal this year has been to find ways to help our opponents work methodically down the field on 98 yard 8 minute type drives. Everyone knows this is the best way to demoralize your denfense and keep Eli fresh for a 58 second drive to win or lose the game.
by hit_hard on Dec 22, 2011 7:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i hate mock drafts
I know it makes good conversation but I hate feb till april.. you have the media going.. ohh crap tom coughlin just said they need a o line tackle.. no one knows who’s going where..ever.. maybe top 5 picks but below that is anyones guess.
by wrxsti28 on Dec 22, 2011 10:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The Giants will draft a WR, CB, or DE in the first round
Why? Because to Reese they are always the BPA.
Lol yeah
Fucking Hakeem Nicks and Jason Pierre Paul. Two bigtime BUSTS
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate having JPP and Nicks
Two top 5-10 players at their position is such a drag. Fire Jerry Reese he sucks.
yea cuz that never works.
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Or a S
And I’ll bet he’s not opposed to a LT or a QB or a great DT
And I’ll go out on a limb. If a guy like Burfict drops our way, he’ll get serious consideration. The pattern I see. He won’t draft guys cause they have instincts or a motor till later. He’ll draft them, but he won’t overpay for intangibles that translate less than 1/2 the time.
Let’s remember there where people here that scoffed at the idea that Hrzlich would be on the board in the fifth round, so we better take him in the third.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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