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Jason Pierre-Paul Vs. D'Brickashaw Ferguson: Saturday's Marquee Match-up

There are a zillion intriguing sub-plots when you think about Saturday's meeting between the New York Giants and New York Jets. None more interesting -- and critical to the success or failure of the Giants -- than the match-up between Superman and the Brick, or Giants star defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and Jets two-time Pro Bowl left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

We have pretty much seen it for the past several weeks. If JPP doesn't make big plays for the Giants defense, they pretty much don't get made. His ability to win a one-on-one match-up with Ferguson, or the Giants ability to scheme Pierre-Paul into situations where other Jets have to try and block him, is crucial for the Giants.

Star-divide

Jets coach Rex Ryan is looking forward to watching Pierre-Paul and Ferguson go at it.

"I think with Pierre-Paul, I think when you look at him, if you're going to block him with one guy, it's going to take a player like D'Brickashaw (Ferguson)," said Ryan. "There are very few Pierre-Pauls in the league. There are very few D'Brickashaw Fergusons in the league. But, will he have help sometimes? I'm not going to give you the game plan, but I think it goes without saying that occasionally he's going to have some help."

Pierre-Paul, in his second season, had eight tackles, two sacks including one for a safety, a forced fumble and a game-saving blocked field goal against the Dallas Cowboys two weeks ago. Last week against Washington he was a one-man defense with 16 tackles and a sack. He has 13.5 quarterback sacks for the season.

Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez has certainly noticed Pierre-Paul, and he would rather not get an up-close-and-personal introduction Saturday afternoon.

"He's been having a heck of a year. It'd be crazy to say you haven't noticed him," Sanchez said. "He's a great player. He finishes to the whistle and I think that's one of the biggest things, he's just relentless."

Ferguson, of course, is a great player in his own right. He made the Pro Bowl the last two seasons by having plenty of success against some of the game's best pass-rushers. He knows he is meeting another one on Saturday.

"I think he's a great defensive end. I think he's a young guy with a lot of talent. He's doing well in this league. I think it'll be a great battle between our line and myself against him," Ferguson said. "I think he just takes advantage of opportunities given to him. He has a lot of talent. Every year, there's always one guy or a couple of guys that really have showed themselves to be improved, and I think he's just really taken advantage of his (opportunities)."

For me, it will not only be interesting to see how Pierre-Paul does against Ferguson. It will also be interesting to see how much Perry Fewell moves the star defensive end around to try and get him matched up against lesser-skilled blockers.

Whatever it is going to take, the Giants need to get plays from Pierre-Paul on Saturday. Which makes Pierre-Paul vs. Ferguson a fascinating match-up to watch.

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I agree Ed

It will be interesting to see if Perry Fewell lines up JPP against Wayne Hunter at times, given the great success pass rushers (Ware and Babin to name a few) have had against him. I sure hope he does, at least on some passing downs.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

indictment

what an indictment on Fewell if he cannot get pressure on Sanchez while the other 2 NFC East teams have basically handed him the plan.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

So you think teams will let you do the same things to them over and over??

that would be an indictment on the human brain….not to mention those two other teams had more than one guy winning one on one battles. We dont!!

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 21, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

weakness

if a team has an exposed weakness they have not ocrrected it would be in the best interest of the opposing team to also attack that weakness.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the giants do the same thing

over and over and its doesnt work so why not? lol

by NYG86-90-07 on Dec 21, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

personell vs scheme

also this is JPP vs a weakness in the Jets personell. It is not as if it is the Jets gameplan they can adjust unless they move Brick all over but that is not usually done with an O line.

A Weakness in personelle is alot easier to exploit week after week.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are giving P. Fewell too much credit.

scheming JPP?? if anything he will move JPP to NT, but that wont be because the jets will game plan for JPP, its because its S.O.P.

Maybe I am just sick of Fewell. HNot built to prevent blame from being placed in the first place.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Actually he is moving him to Punter

Quinn talked it over with PF and they agreed it was a good move.

I got a GIF for that!

by Fester McDougal on Dec 21, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

can he kick it inside the 10?

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

nice.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

HA!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

edit fail on my part... lol

P.F. reminds of of someone that does something, so that when it doesnt work they can blame someone. They can say “I did my part” and point the finger.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He is that kind of person

He’s talked about guys not beating double teams, as if it’s not his job to put them in a better position to succeed.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 21, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is

that if the scheme is not working, PF will continue anyway.

Only two more games, hopefully no more PF after this. Going the way of Sheridan.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I was praying that P.F. was fired on Monday

Regardless of the 2 pick’s early in the game… Whatever the Redskins wanted to do, we let them do it. If they wanted to score 40 points, they could have. They didnt think it would have been this easy and honestly, is the reason the score was much worse.

Prevent = Soft Shell = Tim Lewis = Bill Sheridan = Perry Fewell

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

*wasnt much worse.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

We basically scored 3 points...watch the game

Even if we held them to 14 in that particular game we still lose but nevermind.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 21, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I am in no means defending the offense for being offensive

I am a defensive kiind of guy… If the Redskins game planned for scoring 40 points, they could have done it. They did anything they wanted. Every play worked. If they wanted to run to the right, in hopes that they get 3-5 yards, they ran to the right and got 6. Last Sunday was one of the worst defensive game plans/effort I have ever seen.

I dont talk about the offense because I dont know about the offense. Though to me, if the WRs catch half the balls they drop, its a completely different game.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah the offense was terrible

But the fact that your defending the defense by basically saying “Hey, they weren’t as bad as the offense!” is kind of pointless. Ok, the offense was worse, but the defense was not good either.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

it's contagious

The offense knows the defense can’t stop anyone. Once Nicks dropped the first TD pass it took all the wind out of the sails. The entire team quit including the offense.

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Dec 21, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Revis vs. Nicks should be a good one

i’d like to say Webster vs. Holmes too but with Perry’s “off and soft” coverage i’m sure the Jets will easily be able to get Holmes matched up on Ross, Rolle, and Prince thus avoiding Webster for the better part of the game.

and instead of being interested in how Fewell will use JPP….frankly i’m more “fearful” than anything.

all in all, the hype of this game will surely be better than the game itself.

I’m hoping i can at least watch for 4 quarters w/out having to “go for a walk”….I’ll be at Momma’s house and she prefers it if i keep my extraciricular actives outside….especially for the holidays. of course baking out the basement has huge upside….

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 21, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Haha yeah

Keep Nicks away from Revis to do anything

by The Cole Train on Dec 21, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO true

But you do know there was no right or wrong route on that pick right?? the thing is on a timing throw you cant show the QB one thing then switch at the top of your route…MM just tried to do too much but there was no specific called route FYI.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 21, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

no specific called route?

I find that difficult to believe and how would you know that?

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

each WR

Has 2 or 3 options on passing plays. The scheme is far too complex for Ham

Perry Fewell Stinks!

by GMen56-11 on Dec 21, 2011 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

same page

he never got it, never will. I didnt realize each receiver has a couple of options. how does the QB and him know which one will be used?

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I have read

it’s based on the QB and the WR both recognizing what coverage the other team is in and running a certain route based on that coverage.

On that particular play it was more than that though. Ham broke like he was going to the corner and then broke back inside. He faked out Eli when he did that. Even though the db was also in the corner Eli may have been giving his guy a chance to make a play in one on one coverage. Lot’s of QBs do that.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 21, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sounds right

I knew they had routes for whether or not the D blitzes but not on every playcall. Thanks,

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know the Giants system

or if it is every play call or just certain ones. But the QB and the WRs definitely have to be in sync. Like the back shoulder throw. From listening to the announcers I don’t think that’s ever “called” but the QB will throw it if the coverage is over the top and the WR just has to react.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 21, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

+23

well said

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Its hard to defend against a pass

when you are 5 yards off the line on the 6… and that was by design… (Ross AND Webby IMO, are put in bad positions before the play even starts, Webby is just a little more experienced and thus knows how to minimize the effects of his mistake)

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeesh keep having writing fails

Webby knows how to minimize the effects of bad schemes…

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

coincidentally....

if you watch the S. Johnson TD vs. Revis. Revis is pressed up on the line….but actually drops to about 5 yards off the LOS. SJ ran a simple slant route and it was an easy 6.

I rememeber very clearly too b/c that was one of the Jets games I watched this year.

my point? don’t really have one, just staying…on that play, Revis inexplicably was kinda “off” Stevie

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 21, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol Webster gives up

a lot of completions. One of the top in the league….he also gets beat for huge plays. He would have had another one if DeSean wasn’t a schoolgirl. Revis is by far the ebst corner in the league and it’s not even close..

by The Cole Train on Dec 21, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

it's funny

i’ve read the archives and your arguments ARE THE SAME ONES against TT. don’t even talk

by The Cole Train on Dec 21, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah you do.

you complain about TT’s praise and will use the same tactics to put a smear job on him becasue it takes away from everything having a ahrd on on CWeb like you.

by The Cole Train on Dec 21, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

you are going off on tangents

my point is giants fans don’t support Webster …

you proved it.

than you got mad b/c you fell for the okey doke.

it’ happens. you’re not the first one.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 21, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Nicks can outphysical Revis

but Revis is smarter. It will be a good one

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

P.S. Revis got worked by Stevie Johnson a couple weeks ago

so he is not this invincible, impenetrable force that is never beaten..

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

IDK about that

Revis is just as, if not more physical……will be a great matchup if Dream brings his hands.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 21, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Nicks is super physical and has 2 inches and 10 pounds on Revis.

Not saying Revis isn’t physical, just saying Nicks can beat him that way.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

2"

is nothing when you look at the size difference between most #1 WRs and #1 CBs.

by eyerish9299 on Dec 21, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

2"

is not nothing. Its nothing when you arbitrarly compare it to most #1 WRs and #1 CBs. This isn’t most #1 WRs vs #1 CBs, this is Nicks vs Revis. 2" can make a difference in this matchup.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If we had a creative OC, we could give them different looks

but that is a dream to hold on to for next year.

I am hoping the Maras wake up.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 21, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Catching and blocking helps too

The most simplistic offenses in the league are the Peyton led colts….Green Bay and NE…… so all this creative stuff is overated.

EXECUTION!!!

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 21, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

simplistic offenses?

“The most simplistic offenses in the league are the Peyton led colts….Green Bay and NE”
Are you being sarcastic?

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all...do you watch

There offenses are hell bent on execution not trick plays and overly difficult routes or anything like that at all.

I couldnt be more serious. Our offense is way more intricuit than any of those offenses, NE maybe the only exception that i mentioned, but thats because they have over 500 plays not because the plays themselves are so creative. They prey on matchups not trickery.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 21, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, see what your saying

difficult in terms of the play itself not the playbook. but Glbride does not use trickery, is it just the routs he designs?

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you

More often than not it’s execution vs scheme, IMO. If guys do their jobs, block, catch, tackle, cover, etc. the team does well.

I think everyone goes overboard with “fooling” the other team.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 21, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I drove the Fire Gilbride Fan Bus a while back

I gotta say, this year… apart from the 3-9 draw plays (which I believe is more Eli than KG) I havent had anything to complain about – except for the WRs dropping passes.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

let him cover Cruz

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 21, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Webster vs Holmes matchup...

is the key to the game… The Jets are always running quick slants with Holmes, but as you said PF loves the “off and soft” coverage, if he goes that route this game I think Holmes is going to have a HUGE game… PF needs to play tight man against these WR bc they love the quick slants, if they do that I think Sanchez will struggle.

by Fokman on Dec 21, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

if Revis is on Nicks

maybe the sun will get in both their eyes

Team TAWD:
The entire 53 man roster of the 2011 New York Giants

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Eli will force into single coverage

no matter who is covering. That will be an area where the game can be won or lost. Who makes the big play when the chance arrives

You down wit JPP?
I got 99 problems but a Vick ain't one!

by Flynner on Dec 21, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Baking out the basement sounds good and

Then eating good home made Italian food made by momma is a Perfect Christmas.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

that matchup is more interesting to me than this one

i should say, their secondary versus our wideouts. they’ve held teams down passing all season, although Eli eats up blitzes. so it should be fun.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Dec 21, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Im not into the whole nicknaming thing

But if I had to give JPP one it would be “The Hulk” for his mild manner demeanor off the field(Bruce Banner) & disruptive, destructive & powerful nature on it(Hulk). But all comic books aside…i heard someone mention this a few days ago on here…what are the chances we land Spags as head coach next year after he gets his inevitable axe from the Rams? With the right defenses pieces in place, a healthy TT, Goff coming back & of course “The Hulk”(JPP) we could be a top 5 defense.

by Nicks4Six on Dec 21, 2011 12:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

0.0%

trust me, I crunched the numbers (Math Degree here) and there is a 0.0% that we land Spags. There is also 100% chance that if we score more than Jets, we will win.. It goes down to 95% if Tebow is the quarterback of the Jets by Sat.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

same plan though

Find the “next spags”. A Defensive assistant ready to take the next step.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

good one

lets hope the iggles keep things as they are since they are “greatly improved” late in the 2011 season!

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a little bit of a joke

But in all seriousness, It really depends on T.C. – If he stays, he will probably stick with P.F.
If JR puts his foot down then TC will most likey go after another Assistant – my guess would be Guinta.

then you have to consider The Eagles – who have always wanted him and Spags himself…
I dont see Spags coming back to the Giants to reclaim his old spot. When he can start all over with a new team (as head coach) or go help the team that made him what he is now (the eagles). Also, I dont think the rams will fire him. the Rams have had more injuries than the giants (if what I hear is correct) and its kinda pointless to fire a coach when he doesnt have a team to compete with. At least that is my take.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

If thats the case(Spags not being fired because his team had to many injuries)then TC is destined to stay another year because he also had to many injuries on his team…which means another year of PF. But if anything, I think the team Spags SHOULD come back too is the Giants because thats the team who made him(07 SB)& not come back as a DC but a HC(if TC gets the boot).

I would love Spags back as a DC but if thats not the case then as a HC would be fine with me.

by Nicks4Six on Dec 21, 2011 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If the Giants do enough as a team

to make the Mara’s and the Tisch’s give TC a new contract, I am as sure as anyone could be without having any real info that Fewell will be fired. It has been that bad.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

No more score predictions...

by tommy d. on Dec 21, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 21, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well then

Haley shouldn’t have been fired! Starting B, RB, CB and S all out for year.

by eyerish9299 on Dec 21, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That was at USF

Now, he is just “The Kracken”

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

can we please have someone other...

then JPP shine on defense for a change. Talk about one dimensional!

by SJBBfan on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

how about play as a team, everyone is pedestrian helping each other and by golly

win the game. Everybody keeps talking about this player or that, I would rather have a bunch of no-names that complement each other and work as a team

by maraman on Dec 21, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The game plan has already been written on how to defend JPP

Tire him out.

The Jets will run at him for the vast majority in the beginning of the game, essentially tiring him out so that he won’t be as effective late in the game.

or

Fewell will tire him out himself by keeping him on the field for too long and/or shuffling him around to play NT, rendering him nearly useless against the interior line and overworking him in the process.

JPP has shown flashes of being an All-Pro. A severly banged up Tuck, “injured” and not playing Osi, placating Osi while he was healthy, and Fewell’s determination to missuse him have prevented JPP from being on a different planet this year. For shame.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Dec 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

I think JPP has looked great late in games recently.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, to me he's looked gassed

The Skins just ran at him. I didn’t see him get much pressure or get in the backfield late in Sunday’s game. I could be wrong.

But then again, the whole D seems to be gassed because they are on the field way to stinkin much. Offense not getting into a rythm and controlling the ball, the “bend but don’t break” defensive philosophy of Fewell wich MAXIMIZES opposing teams’ offensive plays, and the extremely frustrating inability of this D to make a stop on 3rd down have all been factors.

I need a beer.

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."

by Larry Soprano on Dec 21, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Gassed

The Giants D is always Gassed because they cannot get off the field and they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

when you cover 9/13 3rd down conversions

and then are 1/2 on forth downs… doesnt bode well for keeping any defensive player rested.

Giants are young, and injured... and loosing.

by Skii31 on Dec 21, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

3rds

and several of those are 3rds and 15+

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats cause

the Skins ran the ball so much in the 4th quarter! He blocked the kick against Dallas in the last play of the game! That surely isn’t gassed.

by eyerish9299 on Dec 21, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I need a beer, too!

I just look at Coughlin’s comments about JPP in the Dallas game when he said that he thought he disappeared in the beginning but poured it on in the 2nd half.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ed you make me laugh

For me, it will not only be interesting to see how Pierre-Paul does against Ferguson. It will also be interesting to see how much Perry Fewell moves the star defensive end around to try and get him matched up against lesser-skilled blockers. Perry does not know how to move guys around.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

Perry tends to move people so much that they forget who they are.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Spags

Listening to Mike Francesa the other day on the FAN he brought up an interesting scenario. Bring back spags as DC, keep coughlin another year or two and then just slide spags in the HC job. Spags went to a team with no defensive talent and turned a terrible unit into a solid defense his first year. Make him a HC on a team where all the talent is already there and the giants might have something with spags at the helm.

by jrainone7 on Dec 21, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Doubt Spags will come back to the Giants

as a Defensive coordinator. If the Rams fire him, he’ll probably find another HC gig elsewhere. He is well-respected around the league.

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"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali

by browne14 on Dec 21, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about that

Jags, Bucs, Dolphins and maybe Chargers, Chiefs, Colts and Browns are the only teams I can see being open positions. Most of those teams are pretty devoid of talent (aka same thing he did with the Rams). Also I think going from 7-9 to this debacle has hurt his rep somehwat. Maybe he does a DC gig to build up his rep and waits for a better HC job.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 21, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No way

What has Spags done as a head coach to get another chance so quickly? There’s no way he’s getting a head coaching position. He’ll have to repair his reputation as a DC first.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 21, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know why we are even talking about Spags quite honestly...

He hasn’t been identified as one of the Coaches on the endangered species list…He’s probablt going to stay where he is..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt Rex is going anyway

he will be Jet HC for a good amount of years

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Until his little heart desires...or quits.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard his contract was front loaded with Sizzler giftcards instead of money.

Does Sizzler even exist anymore?

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

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by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, I think so

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah man, Sizzler still be existing!

I went in there the other day and put my dinner on Layaway.

"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson

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by tommy d. on Dec 21, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You wanna go to the Sizzler and get some grub?

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it Sizzler?..or Golden Corral?

I can’t imagine that cheap chump not opting for All-you-can-Eat…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Golden Corral

is always a good time

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Eagles

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We need Eli in Eco-Drive mode

You know, ice in his veins, threading the ball in stride, and controlling the time of possession.

Get the lead and eat the clock!

by edzilla on Dec 21, 2011 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

More Barden please.

He could have a field day.

Now in section 133.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 21, 2011 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

i would agree

the Jets go 3 deep on corner, with Wilson coming along nicely. after that? chop liver. and their safeties don’t help there. so spread em out Gilbride. a little run and shoot, that’s all i want for christmas.

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by wilddre22 on Dec 21, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ain't happening until next year

But I’m with you, I want me some more Barden ASAP

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by tommy d. on Dec 21, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Eli needs time and the line got whooped last week

He was running for his life last week. By the wat anybodt heard who will be playing tight end for us this week since Ballard , Bear and Beckum{what else is new} are all hurt? This troubles me greatly.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry my spelling sucks today

Started drinking early.

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

As long as it's not suffering from yesterday's drinking then you're good.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Well i'm in trouble then LOL!!!!!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got back from 4 hours in a fucking Mall...I plan on getting bombed..

I’ll try to spell as best I can…But y’all will know when I have reached that pivotal moment of total inebriation…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you need a code word or something.

When the inebriation sets in you could “yell” something on here like Douche Canoe!!!! and we would all know you got your head straight after the horrible experience that is Christmas shopping in a mall.

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by tommy d. on Dec 21, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I am steadily approaching the Douche Canoe hahaha..

Hey is there room in that boat for me???…Heading for the Bahamas are ya?..Hold up let me get my cooler..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey fellas, hold up, this guy's got a cooler!

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by tommy d. on Dec 21, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!...."How long do we have to use this Oar?..What?!!!?"

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahahah!!!!!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 22, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

What About TE

with the season on the line, will we be ‘forced’ to rely on Beckum or Pascoe

by Cruz Control on Dec 21, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Pascoe is hurt as well as Beckum

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

well thats just f*ckin super

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

TE tryouts in the parking lot today after practice

Who’s game?

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 21, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well thats good news I guess

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Would rather go with a lot of two back sets.

With Barden lining up close in the slot to get a shot on Maybin or whoever is coming from the outside. Hope to see Eli hit Ramses in full stride down the seam. Anyway we could just play offense?

Now in section 133.

by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 21, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be a blessing in disguise...

this could lead to more 4 WR sets! With the depth of talent we have at WR i can’t for the life of me understand why we don’t FORCE more teams to try and cover us like the Saints do!

by eyerish9299 on Dec 21, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

payton v gilbride

thats why, one is an innovative OC the other is just a deep pass gambler.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Rankings

Do you honestly believe this talent on this defense is one of the worst in the NFL as its’ rankings says it is? I do not believe it is a top 5 defense but top 15- Can you imagine if we had a DC to just get this defense to be a top 15?

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Earlier a Giants defensive player said other teams have figured them out

Is Perry Fewell aware of this or is he still trying to get the square peg in the round hole. If he is not aware of this and haven’t tried to come up with something different and stop being so predictable then he is too stupid to scheme or coordinate this defense. So its all up to Eli and the offense to carry the team because the defense have no answer to stop the opponent

by rbman3 on Dec 21, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

I think we can all agree

that the Redskins totally mastered PF’s defensive scheme, and one game was the first of the season!

by SJBBfan on Dec 21, 2011 7:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

They sure did..Made him bend over and grab his ankles, twice...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that the constant shuffling of personnel from camp until now has not allowed the talent on the field to get in synch.

They have at times. Patriots, GB, first Eagles game and to a lesser extent SF.

I could go into the list of missing starters and #2 players, I won’t.

One example, three DBs around Moss on his TD catch. Only WR on route. Is that the coach’s fault?

by Hank4910 on Dec 21, 2011 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

not ALL the coaches fault

That first assesment is fair the shuffling and not getting in synch has caused them to underacheive but that falls on the coach. And the Moss TD catch was a direct result of the chaos on the field Fewell refused to address.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. It seems that sometimes we think our talent is better that it really is.

Rolle talks about wanting to attack the ball. What was he waiting on in the Moss TD? To name only one play in his recent performances.

by Hank4910 on Dec 21, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah not saying

it is a top 5 defense. But just think if this were a top 15 this season?!?!? They would have the division wrapped up right now.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 21, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely

Although it is not his place to say it- Rolle is right in that if you can practice even limitedly – get out there!

by BLUEYOU on Dec 21, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That's how I feel and it's sad.

If Sanchez rapes the Giants defense with two minutes to go to win the game I will freak out.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's hope Nicks and Cruz watch what Stevie Johnson did to Revis and copy that.

Copy everything except the stupid penalty and they don’t need any help learning how to drop sure touchdowns.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 21, 2011 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

sadly this

lol

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This...

Guy goes into a bar in Berwick , LA. where there’s a robot bartender.
The robot says, “What will you have?”
The guy says, “Whiskey.”
The robot brings back his drink and says to the man, “What’s your IQ?”
The guy says," 168."
The robot then proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration and medical technology.
The guy leaves, but he is curious…So he goes back into the bar.
The robot bartender says, “What will you have?”
The guy says, “Whiskey.”
Again, the robot brings the man his drink and says, “What’s your IQ?”
The guy says, “100.”
The robot then starts to talk about Nascar, Budweiser, the Saints and LSU Tigers
The guy leaves, but finds it very interesting, so he thinks he will try it one more time.
He goes back into the bar.
The robot says, “What will you have?”
The guy says, “Whiskey,” and the robot brings him his whiskey.
The robot then says, “What’s your IQ?”
The guy says, “Uh, about 50.”
The robot leans in real close and says, "So, you people still happy with Perry Fewell?

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

Damn....

It’s that bad, ain’t it

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by tommy d. on Dec 21, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly, I am afraid so...

You know I mentioned I don’t read these press conference things..but I couldn’t help reading his that Ed posted..I’m like geezus crying out loud, does that guy have a brain??

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, so wrong

but so true, I like it

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by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 21, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha!!!

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 22, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

It's gonna have to be whoever is our LDE doing the damage

Wayne Hunter might be the only OT worse than the ones we’re starting. And he’s been getting worse and worse as the season goes on.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Dec 22, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

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