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Giants Top 5 Defensive [Mis]-Plays Of The Week

Here we are again with our weekly sponsored post from Gillette Pro Glide, which is supposed to detail the New York Giants Top 5 Defensive Plays of the Week. Again this week I am going to go rogue and do this a different way. Off the top of my head here are five plays the Giants did not make on defense that could have helped change the outcome of Sunday's 23-10 loss to the Washington Redskins.

So, here we go.

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1. Antrel Rolle's Missed Tackle: Washington led 3-0 and had third-and-17 at their own 43-yard line. The Giants rushed three and got exactly what they wanted -- a short dumpoff to Donte Stallworth. Unfortunately, Rolle dives at Stallworth's ankles and whiffs at the 50-yard line. Stallworth gets nine more yards. Instead of punting on fourth-and-10 the Redskins convert on fourth-and-one, and subsequently toast Prince Amakumara for a 10-0 lead.

2. Prince Amakuamara's Mis-Play on Santana Moss's Touchdown: Amukamara has admitted that Moss, wide open in the left side of the end zone, was his responsibility on this 20-yard touchdown pass. I have watched the play a couple of times and Amukamara never gave himself a chance. He recognizes who he is covering at the snap, but plays soft, inside coverage as if he is expecting a slant. When Moss goes outside Amukamara is at least five yards behind with no hope of closing that ground.

3. Another Amukamara Mis-Play: With the score 10-0 and Washington driving following an interception the Redskins face third-and-10 at the New York 22-yard line. Amukamara is in man coverage on the outside against Jabar Gaffney. Only, Amukamara isn't even lined up in the state of New Jersey. He's so far off in coverage he might as well be in upstate New York. To make matters worse, when Gaffney catches a quick slant which should have meant a six- or seven-yard gain and a field goal, Amukamara jumps inside, loses contain and allows Gaffney a 16-yard gain and a first down. Washington scores to make it 17-0.

4. Jason Pierre-Paul's Mathias Kiwanuka Moment: On the play following Gaffney's catch Washington hands to Darell Young going up the middle. Pierre-Paul has him at the line of scrimmage for no gain, but somehow does not recognize that Young has the ball. He lets him go with a little shove and Young plows through Rolle as if the Giants' safety is little more than a nuisance to score, making it 17-0.

5. JPP's Near Miss: A week after blocking the potential game-tying field goal against the Dallas Cowboys, Pierre-Paul nearly did it again Sunday against the Redskins. After a Manning interception to open the second half Washington lined up for a 43-yard field attempt. Pierre-Paul, as he did the previous week, breaks into the middle and leaps. He gets fingertips on this one, but it isn't enough and Gano's kick makes the score 20-3.

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you can't blame JPP for not carrying the team

the kid has been a one man show for the past four or five games. Just because he couldn’t make magic again we can’t hold that against him. Put Fewell up here (every week until he’s fired) for calling soft plays, failing to adjust mid-game, failing to take his DBs by the ear in practice or just failing period

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

I'd say he had a magic game... I mean look at that tackles total

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah

PFF says otherwise.

got to love that excuse of football analysis

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

PFF = PF ???

totally useless

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 20, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeh I know

I’m saying they are more alike than we know

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 22, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

true

but without help it’s useless

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Whats funny is i can tell you just hate Fewell

Because if you looked around the league it has become normal to rush three and drop 8. Mid game adjustments i totally agree with you but i have seen teams like N.O….Tenn….SD…SF…PITT…BAL rush 3 ALOT!!!! but the only difference is effort and execution.

SD got a few sacks from their 3 man front the other day, Fewell has his mishaps dont get me wrong but just watch other games besides the Giants games, you will see alot of the same.

I also refuse to believe that he’s not taking hid DB’s by the ears cause Webby and KP play awesome and seem to be on the same page more often than not but Grant and Rolle dont…..so its a collective effort, coach and players.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 20, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

just because other teams have been successful

with rushing three that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for the Giants. It’s up to the coaching staff to draw up the schemes that best work for the resources at their disposal.

I don’t have Fewel or Coughlin, but this season the combination of this coaching staff and these players has turned toxic in a way it hasn’t before and it’s now obvious that it’s not going to work.

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

See thats the thing we would be successful at it if

People tackled…. the pioint of rushing three is to trap an underneath ball and we always do that but then someone misses a tackle or plays a bad technique.

But you are right the coching and the playing has turned toxic…… its just bad, your right about that.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 20, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Our three man rush has done nothing all year..14 game with hardly any results..

Fewell and Coughlin need to stop re-using their toilet paper..open up a new roll for crying out loud..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I love your double sided homerism

Honestly, I do, that’s who you are I get it. You’re good for a chuckle on these because you are going to defend Fewell here blaming execution, but at some point later I’m sure you’ll be defending the players we have as being great talent. My personal take is a little of both are to blame. I’m not sure how you put together a scenario where nobody is to blame, but I gotta respect your undying optimism.

As for the 3 man rush, it has it’s place. Where it all goes wrong is when the offense knows exactly that is what they are going to get. The teams you listed all also blitz A LOT. It’s the combination of blitzing and dropping max coverage that creates problems for the offense. When they know it is three man rush they can take their time with routes to exploit the zone. When they live in fear of the blitz they run the hot routes which your zone dumps out and sits on creating opportunities for the pick or the QB having nowhere to go and taking the coverage sack.

by bigblue777 on Dec 20, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Its only right

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 20, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

1 and 3 are big

beacuse they are pure, in space, football plays which these guys MUST make, regardless of scheme, playing out of position, etc. Rolle has the guy sized up, and doesn’t finish. Amukamara has inside help after the catch, and forces the receiver outside.

Pop Warner and freshman HS stuff.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Oh wait, I'm sorry -

They didn’t technically throw AT Rolle on that play, so we can’t expect him to make the play.

A whiff from the guy who said, “Let me make a play!”

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He did..it went for a touchdown..hahaha

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait? What?

Football players are expected to make plays? No, all you have to do is call the right plays or play the right scheme and it happens auto-magically.

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that #1 should be shared with Perry Fewell

On 3rd and 17 following a monster sack by JPP, I feel that he should have brought some pressure on Rex. Rex was just rocked, crowd was actually in the game, why rush 3 to give him any time at all. Bringing pressure would have caused him to look for the dump off sooner or maybe dare I say, cause a sack.

This is Giant’s football. We eat QBs, or at least we use to.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Dec 20, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

I love this comment

Unlike the Giants secondary, I am on the same page with you.

by CCE718 on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

soooo this!

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

And press coverage

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't get to the qb everytime, though we should release the hounds more

but if Rolle hits Stallworth higher, slows him up, or stands him up, that’s when help come and suddenly there’s three hats inflicting punishment on the guy .

When you don’t hit the qb, hit the next guy with the ball!

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe beating a dead horse here (OK, I am!)

But THIS was Giants football – hard, gang tackling, so that RBs and WRs didn’t want the ball given to them.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

And if Ross plays outside leverage which hes supposed to do

Stallworth never gets to the sideline……MENTAL MISTAKES!!!

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he said he has a hard time playing a 16 game schedule..poor thing...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well ...

I don’t disagree, but the fact is 3-man rush or not the Giants got what they wanted — an underneath throw that should have resulted in a punt. And Rolle did not make the play.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 20, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

YES!

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Good defenses tackle

Great defenses tackle hard

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Tackling

Maybe PF and staff should put on the tape of last night’s SF vs Pitt game.
Those defenses both know how to tackle.

by bgn1987 on Dec 20, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

All too true but

this is exactly what our offense does not do in those situations.
We throw deep don’t get it and punt.
Losing possible any gain in field position or, like in this case, extending the drive.

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair,

when Eli throws short of the 3rd down and the WR gets tackled, we kill Eli for throwing short of the sticks.

by eyerish9299 on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Not on 3-17 though

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the receivers fault..Drives coaches and QBs crazy...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

well there certainly needs to be a change

because our secondary can’t cover. what’s the point of bringing only 3 then? roll the dice, bring pressure, take a shot. please. it’s your season guys.

by section_112 on Dec 20, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought this was the reasoning for building this Dline

to pressure the QB. I thought the point was to rush the QB so that it would help mask the weakness of the secondary. 3 man rush makes no sense with a below average secondary.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Dec 20, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

No secondary in football can cover todays WR's

for longer than 4 seconds.
No pressure, any QB will rip you apart.

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

I can recall at lease 2 times from last night’s game that Ben had ALL night to throw with SF rushing 3, and he was not able to complete the pass. I know Ben was hurt last night, but those are some very good WR’s on the Steelers.
I guess I’m just envious of how good the SF defense is.

by bgn1987 on Dec 20, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

it makes some sense

because you ostensibly have an extra guy in the backfield providing roving support. but my point is this, if that doesnt matter, if the holes are going to be exploited anyway, why not just have that guy blitz? how many blitz packages did spags have? they were creative, fun even. i mean, even aaron ross knocked jay cutler out of a game (and that was Perry’s plan), when is the last time we corner blitzed? and i ask this… HOW MUCH WORSE WILL IT GET? we cant cover anyone anyway, so send a blitz and take a shot

by section_112 on Dec 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree 100%...I went nuts on the that play!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

they just look soft

Even Strahan said it at halftime: The Giants look soft. Lately they look like they can’t hit, can’t keep up and have no aggression. They were just outmanned on Sunday by actual football players. That mentality starts at the top. They need major changes

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

In their heart of hearts

they do not believe in themselves. You’re right, they cannot hit and keep up…they’re resigned to losing.

There will be some emotion Saturday, but it woill only carry them so far.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank God Tiki is not around to speak his mind(less) opinion in the locker room

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

they definitely lack confidence

you can tell that by the amount of talk coming out of that locker room. (It’s really time for Rolle to just shut up) But don’t you think that starts with the program? They need an intense program that stresses physical strength (to cut down injuries) and the attitude of “a bunch of crazed dogs.” I just don’t see that coming from Coughlin.

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

they will probably win on saturday

because they feel the walls on their backs. only to give up the ghost against the cowboys and break our hearts in proper fashion.

by section_112 on Dec 20, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah it would be too easy

We win out and so to the Iggles and we have to stew in our own stink of a team that we should’ve shut out of the playoffs three weeks ago while they are in.

Only good thing will be if they get it, they will most likely have to go to NO or SF to be bitch slapped

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

If Giants win out they win the div

regardless of what iggles do

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Against?

ATL or SEA or DET correct?

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically

I think Dallas can still get the Wild Card too even if we win out. And it is crazy that Seattle is back in the picture, just crazy.

by Midnight Blue on Dec 20, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone think we can stop Atlanta or Detroit?

Each team isn’t perfect (ATL doesn’t show up sometimes, DET is dirty and immature and highly penalized) but Atlanta’s offense would destroy our D. Lions don’t have a running game like the Falcons but their passing game is pretty damn good. I think we lose either matchup.

by Badshaw44 on Dec 20, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Drew Brees...is this guy...IMO

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

saints are looking reallyyyyy good

but i dont think they win in Lambeau in January

by Badshaw44 on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They are a different team outside

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 20, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

they are 10-3

one stinker against rams, the pack loss was basically preseason, and i dont remember the other one.

i think they beat the pack

by section_112 on Dec 20, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry 11-3

two stinkers, one to the bucs one to the rams.

i think that was more a matter of not showing up emotionally to those games

by section_112 on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

6-0 at home

5-3 on the road

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 20, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree

"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning

by blains2000 on Dec 20, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad....I was just saying it would be appropriate for the season

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Now thats Giants Football the last 3 years

We have come to hate

Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.

by costanza! on Dec 20, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats just...too true :-(

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.

by jELIsus manning on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You know we are bad when we start doing top 5 misplays

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Lmaoooo/Smfhhhhh

Top 5 defensive missed plays _ what is #Giants Football coming to

by AHoustonGiant on Dec 20, 2011 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Defense

I know we are all down on the team this week but we held them to under 300 yards on Sunday, 3.1 yards per run, and 185 yards passing. You’d think we’d be willing to recognize things the defense did well to get those very good stats.

by Midnight Blue on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Careful with stats...try these

Opponents TOP – 35 minutes
Opponent’s QB – Rex Grossman
Opponents running at will in the 4th quarter? Yes
Opponents 3rd down efficiency – 8 of 15!!!

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

don't forget fourth down conversions

by the ‘skins! They moved the ball so freely that they didn’t even blink on 4 and short, twice!

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Stats give you some info

But the picture on the field was worth a thousand words, conveying things the stats will never tell you.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I can do more though too

Defensive turnovers: 2
Points off of turnovers: 0
First downs off of turnovers: 1
Offensive First downs before 2 minute warning: 4
Offensive drives longer than 2 minutes in first half: 1
Third Down conversions in first half: 0

That TOP was less about the defense than the offense. Eventually guys will get tired and have trouble stopping people.

by Midnight Blue on Dec 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess if it makes you feel better to blame the O

one can do that. The ire against the D is there because half-hearted efforts like Sunday’s will not erase the memory of 121 points and 1500 yards in 3 games. The unit is shot, and I cannot get excited, or even cut them much slack, for keeping a 4 win team to 23 points in their building in what was essentially a playoff game for NY.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, unless a miracle happens, you are correct

that is what the Giants will look like if they appear in a playoff game

by maraman on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Numbers aren't always

reflective of what happened in the game. Washington gained that many yards, because thats all they needed. We didn’t stop them when we really had to. And 300 yards for the Redskins is a great performance. Our d couldn’t have looked much worse against that offense.

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.

by jELIsus manning on Dec 20, 2011 2:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

PF

Has Fewell ever heard of in game adjustments or creating schemes around the players strengths. When something isn’t working in the first half we expect Fewell to talk to the defense at half time and change some things. Instead he comes out in the second half and gives us more of exactly what we did in the first half. I’m so sick of this guy

by jrainone7 on Dec 20, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

true of the whole coaching staff

the offensive scheme and play calling is one dimensional and predictable just like Fewel’s D. I think we’ve all sniffed out that shotgun draw play from our couches whenever it comes up

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Do that with a toss back to Eli for a bomb to anyone

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

smart group down there

or else it would have been a massacre…
I would have felt sorry for Fool, once you guys get a hold of him…lol

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 20, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a time in the NFL

when you would run a couple of plays to ‘soften’ up the other team to other plays later.
the NFL is not that league anymore.

Each play is too valuable and I don’t think Gilbride gets that.
His system worked real well when you had a defense that would come on the field and get off within a couple minutes.

And as explosive as our offense is, and it really is when compared across the league, we need each of those plays to count even more for time of possession to hide our defensive weakness as much as possible.

HE IS NOT GETTING IT ANYMORE!!!!

coup d’etat please

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Android App

off topic but have to say it, this app is fantastic

by handle on Dec 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Where did you get it?

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I found the link through Net Income’s twitter

by handle on Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I just watched a few videos on YouTube of the giants defense last year. The amount of times KP21 and ARolle blitzed was unbelievable

by jrainone7 on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Ross/Prince/Rolle combo is a debacle

As PFF said Webster and Boley had good games. These guys can’t execute a soft zone so let’s stop playing it. Let the CB’s play man, double the best receiver on passing downs and blitz a safety or LB at least 50% of the time. If we give up a big play or two at least it won’t be because someone has their head up their ass and it will get the defense of the field and give the offense more opportunities, as opposed to these crushing seven-minute, four third-down-conversion pigskin rectal invasions this defense has been enduring.

Blue is the color of melancholy and honesty
Green is the color of inexperience, envy and nausea.

by roguetrader on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

pigskin rectal invasions?

the word picture is a tough one to lose

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

If i was TC....

I’d be seriously considering firing Fewell. Like right now.

name Guinta or Merritt or Donald Duck interim DC.

TC by co signing this non sense for this long has basically signed, sealed, and delivered his own pink.

his only saving grace would be to fire fewell….

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

No stones to do it

didn’t pull the trigger on Quinn all of last year or off season

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

No point in firing anyone right now.

The one thing about the Giants organization is they are pretty classy. Hiring and firing belongs in the off season and that is where the Giants should keep it.

by Metalgarn on Dec 20, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love to see a major coaching change in the off season.

That’s why I am more or less hoping for an 0-2 record to close the season.

I like TC but I think we have to have a change. Fewell is probably pretty good at what he does but it doesn’t fit with the Giants at all.

Gilbride I actually could live with (last year he was my least favorite) and Quinn although special teams is better is nothing to brag about either, so he can go as well.

by Metalgarn on Dec 20, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

if Jerry Reese has half a brain

he’s calling Spagnoulo daily and promising him the DC job forever. Then, he’s out looking for an impact linebacker, a new head coach, new OC, hell, get new shoulder pads if it will help.

by bleedingbigblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Hiring and firing belongs in the off season

Tell that the the Chiefs!! They seem to have adjusted just fine.

Quinn must go !!

by njgiant on Dec 20, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

granted, it would be a total ploy

but if he wants to save himself…he’s gotta lay the hammer down here.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

To his own fault though......never, ever happen.

Have to respect that as well

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

by SNORKIS on Dec 20, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i respect winning

if TC wants to fall on his sword fine.

but if he wants to keep this job (which he does), he’s gotta make the tough decisions….and he’s got a HUGE scapegoat w/ Fewell.

shit, i’d fired up the propaganda machine (Hanlon) right now and throw Perry under the bus in an effort to do anything i could to hold onto my job.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

TC's too good a man to do that

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

well no one likes to get fired

and TC we know is loyal. but he canned Sheridan

he canned Wauffle

Fewell is definitely gone, but i think we’re pretty much all in agreement that it’s going to come at TC’s expense. I.E. TC will be fired at seasons end.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

it’s the only way TC saves himself.

frankly i don’t want TC back if Fewell is here…

but i will give TC another go w/ a real DC. and preferable a new OC too.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He/Reese will certainly fire a coach

But TC wouldn’t bad mouth him and try to sway opinion against him.

Everybody knows what’s coming as soon as their season ends.

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he won't have to bad mouth him

the media will do that for him…

all he has to do is thank him for his service and send him on his way.

Fewell ain’t getting a HC job after this year, regardless if TC trashes him or lauds him as the next best thing.

what’s done is done…..

let’s SAVE the Giants, not individual’s coaching careers.

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, let's save the Giants, however it comes out

I don’t care for PF, KG, TQ or even TC
if the Giants are losing….

I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.

by 27Tango on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Coughlin should do a Fassel and guarantee the G-men make the playoffs

that would at least tell me he is willing to put some skin in the game

by maraman on Dec 20, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

I can't knock JPP and Kiwi too much on Young's run..

Grossman made a beautiful fake..on that play…one of the best I’ve seen all season..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

Oh..and be sure to go back to todays News and Notes...

I wrote a Holiday tribute Ode for Coughlin..I hope you like it…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

If the team showed as much effort as that

we’d be lock for SB 46

"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver

by Dick J on Dec 20, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The D misplay that matters the most

Having Perry Feeble as DC.

And yes, read BBs ode to clawfin in the other post. Excellent.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 20, 2011 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

I wonder if Arizona still thinks that Kolb is worth what they paid for him.

nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!

Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.

by nywins42 on Dec 20, 2011 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

JPP is still raw

He’s giving it all but he’s still learning. The guys who are supposed to be teaching him are either injured and out or hurt and invisible.

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Imagine when he really knows what he is doing

It will be a thing of beauty…as long as you are not the opposing QB.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
TC, TQ, PF, KG, DD and KMac Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

OR jealous?

yup….went there

Fire Fewell

by andiamo708 on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Antonio Pierce had a lot to say

NJ.com:

"I’ve been booed before and I’ve been cheered there before, and I know how to make them cheer: You show them heart. They just want to see some more fight," Pierce said. "As long as you’re still swinging, they’re good. But when you sit down and you’re on the sideline and your body language tells them otherwise, you’re going to get the reaction they got."
On where blame lies for the lack of leadership: "Being truthful, it always starts up top. It starts with Coach Coughlin. He knows that. He has to know this team better than anybody else. So he knows, ‘Who’s that one guy I can cuss him out in a meeting, I can get after his tail?’ And he’s going to say, ‘All right, you know what, I’m going to get the rest of the guys going and get after Coach and prove a point.’ I don’t know if he has enough Coach Coughlin-type guys.

On whether he agrees with Rolle saying guys need to play and practice hurt: “I was the first one to say it. I think I need to check my copyright statements. That’s just how it is. That’s the National Football League. When I came in the league, I played with guys that played 20 years in the league, Bruce Smith, Darrell Green. These guys played hurt. I watched them. I was young. I knew I could run around for a while. But I saw what these guys were doing every day. And you know what? They didn’t take every snap. But they were out there. And that’s accountability. You’re out there with your boys. I don’t like to use war terms but you’re out there with your soldiers, you’re out there with your guys. You know when things get rough, this dude’s going to be there. I think what Rolle was saying, and I hope I’m not putting words in his mouth, was he’s not sure if those guys are going to be there on Sunday. That’s how I interpreted it.”

On Rolle’s timing: “I don’t like when he did it. He delivered it after the game. I like getting to that on Wednesday or Thursday. After the game, guys are a little sensitive to it. It creates a little buzz. Wednesday and Thursday, it grabs a guy’s attention and impacts the rest of the week. And by Sunday it’s all over and done with. But after the game guys are emotional.”

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

I cut it short

Here’s the full quote.

On where blame lies for the lack of leadership: “Being truthful, it always starts up top. It starts with Coach Coughlin. He knows that. He has to know this team better than anybody else. So he knows, ‘Who’s that one guy I can cuss him out in a meeting, I can get after his tail?’ And he’s going to say, ‘All right, you know what, I’m going to get the rest of the guys going and get after Coach and prove a point.’ I don’t know if he has enough Coach Coughlin-type guys. What is that? Coach Coughlin is a blue-collar guy. He talks in simple terms. You want everybody to speak the same language. … In ’06, all we did was talk about one another, what they did wrong, what I did great. There wasn’t a ‘we.’ What’d we do? We changed it. We said, ‘We’re going to buy into this, Coach.’ What do we need to say? ‘Us, we, team.’ What were the results? It got us a championship. Did we get on a run? Yeah, but why did we get on a run? Because it was us against the world.”

Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross

Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."

by GhostDini on Dec 20, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Tuna

had his guys in the lockerroom acting like gustapo and looking for complainers and dissenters like Rolle.

by BLUEYOU on Dec 20, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

sure is

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related

by Blue Gates on Dec 20, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff..thanks for sharing...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Coughlin and Fewell need to be gone

At the very least. Coughlin has clearly lost this team. Fewell can’t scheme his way out of a wet paper bag. This team actively seems adverse to success. I can’t explain it, but I don’t like it one bit.

"Sometimes it doesn’t work out the way you want it to work out, but we play the hand we’re dealt and we’ll win with it." -- Giants GM Jerry Reese

In Reese I trust.

by GiantFanInPackerLand on Dec 20, 2011 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

Over the last few years we have lost TC type players and added loud mouths (Rolle) and kept selfish players like Osi.

We can blame the coaches all we want. They will probably pay the price at the end of the season. The reality is our players are just not very good. TC will be better off not having to put up with several of them. He can focus on something worthwhile like his charities and family.

by Hank4910 on Dec 20, 2011 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

Agree. AP is old school in a Giants blue collar way. ‘Us, we, team.’ vs "I, me, my".

“In ’06, all we did was talk about one another, what they did wrong, what I did great. There wasn’t a ‘we.’ What’d we do? We changed it. We said, ‘We’re going to buy into this, Coach.’ What do we need to say? ‘Us, we, team.’ What were the results? It got us a championship. Did we get on a run? Yeah, but why did we get on a run? Because it was us against the world."

by Hank4910 on Dec 20, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

How is almost blocking a field goal a “misplay?”

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by Frank Campagnola on Dec 20, 2011 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

Damned if I know..Ed must have had a hard time coming up with shit plays..I could come up with a bunch.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that Ed...

Probably took every single defensive play, and picked one out of the hat, for his #5.

Thats the only explanation I can think of, considering, that play involved JPP, also known as “2011 New York Giants defense.”

You can pay for school, but you can't buy class.

by jELIsus manning on Dec 20, 2011 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Haha!!..He sure has become that for us...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 20, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

NOT a misplay...

…unless you want to consider every FG made against the Giants this year a misplay. You can’t rely on blocked FG’s – they’re pretty rare – and if you’re counting on that to win games then you’re in big, big trouble. That JPP has one block (a HUGE one) and even was able to get a finger on another is remarkable.

by JerryAA on Dec 21, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree with that..Your in deep Yogurt if your relying on a blocked field goal to bail your ass out..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 21, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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