Giants Vs. Redskins: Pro Football Focus Weekly Review
by Ed Valentine on Dec 19, 2011 4:16 PM EST
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PrintI am sure many of you are still in a foul mood, and probably don't want to any more numbers regarding Sunday's 23-10 loss to the Washington Redskins. Still, though, since it is one of the things we have done all season let's review the Pro Football Focus numbers for the New York Giants from that game.
OFFENSE
Ahmad Bradshaw (+1.4)
Mario Manningham (-1.3) ... When, oh when, will Manningham learn to run the correct pass route?
Chris snee (-2.6)
David Diehl (-3.6) ... Do you think, maybe, that it is instructive that Diehl gets the lowest offensive grade nearly every week?
DEFENSE
Michael Boley (+5.1) ... I didn't see that grade coming. I know he had a good number of tackles, but no impact or extraordinary plays
Mathias Kiwanuka (+4.4)
Chris Canty (+3.2)
Jason Pierre-Paul (+2.9) ... How does JPP not have a much higher grade than this? After 16 tackles and a sack his grade should be off the charts
Corey Webster (+2.0) ... Don't blame the coverage woes on him
Justin Tuck (+1.5) ... He isn't anywhere near healthy, but Tuck did everything he could Sunday, particularly in run support
Antrel Rolle (-2.3)
Prince Amukamara (-2.4) ... PFF says Amukamara was on the field for just 10 snaps, and that the Redskins targeted him six times in those 10 plays. They completed four balls.
Linval Joseph (-2.6)
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Joseph
Is it fair to say he does not impress?
For this game, yes.
For the season…no. How easy we forget he had 9 solo tackles in Green Bay.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
meh
it’s Canty who is more up and down IMO….and being such a well paid vet that’s more concerning.
Fire Fewell
If it ain't listed here, its between +1.0 and -1.0
which effectively means average. Which sounds about right.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
That good for throwing 3 INTs?
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Biggest issue I have with these rankings is Aaron Ross. He should have gotten Antrel Rolle-like grades.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions
yep
I also don’t understand how Boley was rated higher than JPP. I remember seeing a couple running plays where JPP got stonewalled (reminded me of Osi), but he was a monster for most of the day.
"Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory."
Not knowing who had the ball
helped
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
those missed tackles killed Rolle i bet
but Rolle, Prince, and Ross all looked lost in coverage.
but ultimately, i wouldn’t put too much stock into these grades.
Fire Fewell
Yup, I've been reading his name way too much the past few weeks
As in watching him chase receivers he’s failed to cover
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
on giants sights and sounds someone calls him "trel mix"
but I coulda sworn it sounded more like “TRAIL mix”
Fire Fewell
Rolle would be perfect on the Jets next year
Lots of talk, little action.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Grade for the Giants
DNF
In race terms, it means did not finish. I think that says it all.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 19, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions
Arizona and Seattle have the same record as the Giants
nuff said.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Jacquian Williams,...Maybe .. Sadly this has been modified.
and the Giants lost to Seattle and barely beat Arizona
and they both have better run games and defenses then the Giants. LOL
Manningham
I thought he would break out and have a big year but he has been a disappointment. Very few big plays, dropped TDs, wrong routes, etc. He is supposed to be our deep threat but has only one 40+ play all year and that was a blown coverage by the cowboys. I’d like Barden to work as the #3 the last 2 wks and see what he can do.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
MM
too inconsistent, often not on the same page with Manning, won’t lay out for a pass and not too bright. A shame because he has talent
by Cruz Control on Dec 19, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
I thought so too!
I really like mm, but he has got to get it together real soon!
by oldschoolblue64 on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I, too, long for big plays from Manningham, but they rarely occur
I am for letting someone else overpay for him and putting in Barden as #3 receiver.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
In Diehl's Defense
If Nicks catches the TD pass there is no holding
by GiantFaninColorado on Dec 19, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions
There is no ample defense
to expunge Diehl of his utter craptacularness.
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
How the heck does the Defense have so many positive players
by GiantFaninColorado on Dec 19, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions
we didn't play a terrible game on defense. Just seems that way because of who we were playing.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
What
They could not get off the field, no pass rush, Wash converted 50% of 3rd downs, had the ball for over 35 min. and you are right if it was GB may be good defense but against Wash at home it was pathetic
by GiantFaninColorado on Dec 19, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Our offense couldn't stay on the field.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
we held Grossman to 185 yards
and the rushing attack, which had gotten like 125+ yards past 4 games couldn’t get going for them.
Again, problem is….it was Grossman.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
we didnt hold them to anything
they did just what they wanted to do to our defense and they beat us like a drum. the numbers dont tell the story. this game was over when eli threw the int to mario. and i think that was with 10 min left in the game. we didnt stop them from doing anything
Rex Grossman didn't throw a 20+ pass all game. He couldn't.
We took away large aspects of their gameplan with some good defensive play, but we melted when it counted. I was simply answering why there were a lot of positively graded players, because they made good plays for the majority of the game. We only remember the plays that count, and that’s where they failed.
::shrugs::
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
what diff does it make
if they threw a 20 yard pass or a 10 yard pass. they beat us silly. full stop. the PFF system has some strange grading. but theres only one grade that matters late in dec, +1 for a win -1 for a loss
I agree with you, but you are missing the point lol
The dude up there, GiantFanInColorado, asked why the defensive players graded positively. I explained that they didn’t play terribly statistically, but failed when it mattered. I am not satisfied with the play, and I never said I was. Just answering the question….
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
What
“good plays majority of the game”, “good defensive play”, I must have missed those becasue I did not watch the end of the game.
The Defense, except for JPP and an indvidual every once in awahile, stunk as it has all season. Same mistakes all season, “communication” problems now into the 15th week of the season. Still cannot stop the run, shoot a third string back had a good day yesterday. Groosman was not pressured and once he stopped throwing deep he picked the Giants apart. (see third down conversions).
They even converted on 3rd and 17 !!!!!!!!!
You are right we only remember the plays that count such as thrid down conversions, TDs and missed tackles which is about 90% of the defensive plays.
by GiantFaninColorado on Dec 19, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
OMG I'M NOT SAYING WE PLAYED WELL
JUST STATISTICALLY, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME WE SUCKED. PFF GRADES BASED ON INDIVIDUAL PLAYS AND OUTCOMES, NOT SITUATIONALLY. THATS WHY THEY GRADED POSITIVELY.
I HATED OUR PERFORMANCE REGARDLESS OF WHAT PFF SAYS. LOL.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
LOUD NOISES
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
didn't say I liked or disliked PFF. Was just answering your question.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
in Colorado they're taught to shoot first
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Boy you really stepped in it here BBI LMASSOFFFF
BBi, what makes you think the defense played so well???
Did you even watch the game??? LOL
I keed! I keed! But I’m guessing you knew that. :-)
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
seriously.....jeez.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still laughing
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Hey...my son is named Statistics!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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Funny mine is called Turnovers..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I have twin boys
Giants and Suck
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Skins committed to the run
once they were up 17-0 they just ran the ball down our throats.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Agreed
They beat us like a drum and did not punt until they had a big lead and then played it safe.
by GiantFaninColorado on Dec 19, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think the defense played pretty well and the grades above prove it.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I agree stats are decieving we didn't hold to anything..They scored when it counted..
or they had the opportunity..We amassed more total yards, but they were meaningless and they owned the clock..You got to be careful reading into this stats shit too much..We had 24 more yards total to their 300..They converted their 300 into 23 points..We converted our 324 into 10 points..Game over..doesn’t matter how many yards you gain at all..It is what you produce from those yards that matters..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
We did not
How many punts did the redskins have?
Well for anyone is still delusional about Tom and Co.
In the Denver New England game The Pats were getting lit up on the ground in the 1st Quarter. In between the 1st and 2nd quarter The D coordinator and Belly got together and switched back to a 3 4 Defense after playing a 4 3 all year. he Pats gave up 63 yrds on the ground all game after that after giving up over a 100 in the 1st. Now that my friends is called making in game adjustments. Tom and Co. have no Idea how to do that. It is time for these guys to go.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Bill B is probably the best in the biz.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Tom and Co
are probably the worst in the biz. We’ve seen little to no adjustments for 4 seasons.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
Belly is great at making ask
by oldschoolblue64 on Dec 19, 2011 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm really F-in jealous
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
The JPP grade makes me sick...That is why this PFF is total bullshit to me....Where did this
Nonsense come from?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Is Jason Pierre-Paul actually The Waterboy?
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FOOSBALL!
You mean to tell me there isn't ONE photoshopped image of Optimus Prime with a New York Giants logo?? RIDICULOUS!!
It's the DEVIL!!!
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
sigh
gotta love the fight
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Fat Mike is trying to push the buttons
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
i sincerely hope Tuck doesn't continue his segment next season
he sounds like Eeyore every week talking to Mike. sometimes i feel like screaming “man up! tell mike to shut his mouth and listen!” he’s a good guy, but not the mouth piece this team needs.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
what? who cares?
you want him to fight rolle? they can’t fight at other teams, don’t make them fight each other.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
JPP scoring I believes shows insight to their scoring
You can’t let people run by you and score and not realize they have the ball.
They guy is a beast but everyone makes mistakes.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
That I disagree with entirely..sorry..That was a great fake by Grossman..one of the best I've seen..
A fucking Police dog would have been fooled by that fake..Did we have 10 other guys out on the field during that play???..Or was I just drunk?..They knock JPP for that?..Bullshit..They rip the only defender we had on the damn field yesterday playing..er, what’s it called?..Oh yeah Football that’s it..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
It's big boy world
own your mistakes. I can take it from this guy because he’s going at 100%.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
tuck
has no fire left. he looks like i did during the 3rd quarter yesterday after tynes missed that field goal
We've seen this from Tuck before
When things go bad, he gets waaaay down
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I don't understand why NFL.com
Is so GODAWFUL when trying to access video clips. I just want to watch JPP go to work and it’s like frickin impossible to find any clips from recent games.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
they want you to pay for everything nowadays
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
All I know is we lost 5 out of 6 and
I’m still livid about that poorly coached, Poorly executed,Pathetic effort out there yesterday. The more I drink the angrier I get and I have to go to my Christmas Party for work in about 30 min. I’m gonna fire the 1st MFer who breaks my balls about the Giants tonight. Merry FN Christmas.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Fire the second one for me!
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Hahaha!!..Grounds for dismissal..no doubt about it..
Too bad the Giants organization doesn’t do that..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I just want to point out: The Giants Defense was NOT the reason we lost yesterday
If you look at the big picture, they did EXACTLY what they were supposed to. Perry Fewell’s defense, if I remember correctly, is supposed to be a bend-but-don’t-break that thrives on turnovers.
They did exactly that.
They only gave up 2 touchdowns, 300 total yards, and won the turnover battle. What more could you ask for? The Ravens’ 2000 Defense?
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
^watching the Giants on Defense
Sounds good on paper but TOP was 35 min
The Skins did whatever they felt like out there. They ran the ball and I might add very well the entire second half so numbers don.t tell the whole story in this one. Really though the Offense let us down in this one. They absolutely stunk yesterday between the drops, penalties and poor throws by Esy E it was a mess. The fact of the matter is if our Offense has a bad day we are Phucked because this D is Absolutely atrocious.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
3rd down conversions?
very underrated stat and a telling one – great D’s have low conversion rates on those downs, because those are the money downs. we didn’t yesterday. therefore, they played below average again.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
I ask for a win...that's all...That defense stinks.."They did exactly what they were asked to do"
They lost !!!..They let them own TOP..gime a break..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
So losing the TOP battle has nothing to do with the Offense
Going 3-9 on 3rd downs, giving up 2 TO’s, and Gilbride immediately giving up on the run?
Now, I’m not saying they’re good in general. I’ve had my sig for a week or two, and this performance doesn’t change that.
However, this week, specifically, I don’t think the defense was the main factor for us losing.
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
^watching the Giants on Defense
I've already said both the offense and defense stunk this week..
Our defense didin’t suck aymore they have all year but they could have stepped up and get our Offense 10 more minute to work with..This game was a combined Cluster Bomb..That’s all I’m saying..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I miss Shawn Andrews. At least he's still alive and well on twitter.
IMShawnAndrews
Somebody Done Pooted In The Mall Foye’ And Walk The Funk Off!!! It’s The Holidays People Have Some Respect!!! SMH
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions
Good Lord...
We as humans are doomed.
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lol he's hilarious.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Another one
The Free Dum Dum Suckers In The Bank Taste Better Than The Dum Dum That I Buy @ The Store!! Wonder Why??
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm starting to regret my confidence at the beginning of the season.
I just got an email from a guy that I told I would send him and his wife on an Alaskan cruise if the Giants went 8-8 this year.
I think I have a better chance of global warming melting all the Alaskan glaciers before January than I do seeing the Giants at 9-7.
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Probably so
and global warming is a hoax… and it’s still more likely…
I feel the same exact way...
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Don't tell Al Gore that..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
ManBearPig!!
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and Internet inventor...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Do you still have to send him on a cruise if...
the Giants go 7-9?
That’s not 8-8 and there is a VERY good chance of that.
Great point...
That bastard isn’t going anywhere.
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Do what I do when I make a bet..they come to collect and I holler..
PSYCH!!!!!!..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
better to regret having faith in your team than not having faith at all.
in my humble opinion.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
that being said, I hope yer checking your bank account....
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
....cause more than likely, you owe that man a cruise.
and idk why these stupid comments post before I can enter my thoughts.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with you on that...
You know me. I love these guys and they have my support but I really feel cheated after yesterday.
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so do i lol
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't just yesterday
If it was I would be okay. I feel cheated for the whole season, with the exception of the Green Bay and Cowboys games. Those were the only games I watched, that I felt proud to be a Giant.
Yeah...I'm just saying that I've tried to see the brighter sides things.
After yesterday…hard to do.
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this is why I avoid predictions
It just makes life much simpler.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
by AJ_in_VA on Dec 19, 2011 10:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Favre played until he was 40ish...
The last two years with dementia but still…
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Well statistics have revealed he has a good chance of living into his mid-eighties..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Gotta figure 5 or 6.
Give or take a couple…. injury could change things fast.
I think he said he wants to play 7 more years....
if it keeps up like this he’ll retire well before that!
Fire Fewell
Here we go...Rex Ryan
“Certainly, we were the better team the first two years,” Ryan said. “We made the playoffs and went to the (AFC) championship game. To say a team’s better than you that never made the playoffs is ridiculous. … We get to prove it Saturday who the best team is this year.”
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What an asshole...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Right...
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cant refute it though
he’s right. they went to the championship game 2 years in a row. we all watched on TV
after winning all of one more game each season
it’s not like he set fire to the league each year. his first year he was 9-7; we were 8-8. we didn’t have the luxury of a Colts team on our skedge that had nothing to play for and sat their God of football in the second half.
the next season, they went 11-5; we went 10-6. 95% of the time that’s good enough to get you to the dance. so yeah, once they got in, they did their thing. but Rex wants to boast like he’s just been lighting this town on fire, while we’ve been in rebuild mode….try again.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
He's just a pompous arrogant foot licker..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Yep
and yet I have more faith in his team showing up to play than ours…
No, we will beat them and then lay an egg against the boys with the division title at stake.
That’s just the way the Giants do things. Give you hope and then smash it.
You're probably right.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Well it is TECHNICALLY an away game...
That might help but I expect a complete collapse in the last two games… in fact I am hoping for it. Might just give us what we need to make some real changes.
We lose the games we're supposed to win
We often play well in games we’re supposed to lose, even win sometimes.
So far this year we’ve won the games we had to win.
So, we might just win the next two if we have to.
I wouldn’t be overly surprised if we did, but I’m sure not counting on it
If we make it to the playoffs, we might be swallowing a poisoned pill: there’ll be less chance of necessary changes being made.
he's a dick
but meh our team just has collapses since he came. we can’t talk trash we deserve getting called out. it’s embarrassing how the last couple seasons played out.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Just thinking...
You know it’s hard for Giants fans to be optimistic over the offseason when they keep collapsing during the last half of the season. We have nothing to be confident about regarding next season because we have been consistently let with a bad taste in our mouths.
It’s makes a man very cynical when failure is on you mind for the entire off-season.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Can we move to Dallas?
What’s our record in that stadium? Have we ever lost a game there?
Nope...it's the house that Eli built.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Following Giants need to go next year:
Osi
Jacobs
Mario
Diehl
McKenzie
Baas
Ware
Beckum
Grant
make sure you keep around the likes of Tollefson. We do not know what the status of Tuck will be by beginning of next year.
Hopefully Greg Jones, Marvin Austin and Prince all play better with a full off season because we will need them badly to contend next year as a defense. Pray for a injury free year for once.
Pretty good list
Baas I’d give some time
If we get a new coaching staff, it might be able to figure out how to best utilize Beckum’s skill set.
I would keep Ware
But I still think Da’rel Scott could be good.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Grading Players is OK
But what we all know is that the TEAM grade is an F. PFF has its criteria for grading players, but how does one grade chemistry, psyche, heart, will, resolve, and guts.
Hey Jerry, find us some of them, please.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
by Dick J on Dec 19, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
honestly with the injuries and depth issues we have, I think they just ran out of steam.
You can only have so many injuries and play well for so long before the season takes its toll on you.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
add to that coaching idiocy, and no wonder the players look defeated
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Point well taken
but man, you can run out of steam while scrapping, scratching and clawing. Go down in a blaze of glory. These are multi-million dollar professional athletes who, as a team, have given up completely in at least 4 games the past two years.
That part I don’t get. We don’t have healthy bodies, we’re playing rooks, we’re talent depleted, OK…but if you’re on the fileld, play!
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
I'm Done
I’m done with this team and its current regime. I’m a Coughlin fan, but it’s time to move on. For the last 3-4 years, this team has not played with any heart down the stretch and in the playoffs. How can any fan have any faith that they can pull off a victory over the Jets and Dallas — after what has happened the last few years (and last few weeks), how can anyone think this team will show up. I’m going to my bro-in-laws for Christmas-eve — the biggest Jet fan i know. I’m already contemplating faking a sickness on Saturday. My only hope — they get blown out the next 2 games — surely the Maras can’t go with the status qou then. Can they?
BBSJUFan
you are not alone, my friend.
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
Arrogance or over confidence
This is my assumption, but I feel the Giants were flying high off the Dallas win and thought by just showing up, they would beat the lowly Redskins…I’m sure they even believed the silly comment Rolle made about beating them 99% of the time.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Neither
I just don’t think they were prepared to play and given the way they have performed down the stretch over the last few years, it’s just their M.O.
by BigBlueSJUFan on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Their M.O.
Is to get punched in the mouth constantly down the stretch. If not prepared, this falls on the coaches for not doing their jobs and the players not putting in extra time in the film room.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Diehl--every week
He was almost a pro bowl level guard.
He was never any better than an average tackle.
He shoudn’t have been a starter the last two years.
Here’s what I don’t get: When TC took over the Jaguars as HC and GM in its first year as a franchise, he used the # 1 pick on an OLT.
In the opinion of many (including me) OLT is the second most important offensive position. TC recognizes its importance
Why have the Giants neglected the OL for so many years, particularly OLT?
Because...
1. NFL is a now league, no time to develop talent
2. Salary cap restrictions
3. Easier to keep inexpensive, mediocre backup talent, easily replaced with cheap free agents if need be, than to keep serious talent that will bankrupt the cap eventually.
4. Biggest reason – there are only so many blue chip tackles around
"Allie Sherman wrecked the Giants!" - my 5th grade bus driver
we addressed it with Will Beatty.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Beatty was a cheap solution
to a big problem that has yet to be proven sound. I hope it does.
Somebody get Ben out of there...
He obviously isn’t 100% and he’s hurting his team – I enjoy that though.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
just rewatched highlights from the Patriots game...
ohhhhh memories…
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
Ben is a putz to play
They are going to playoffs anyway, where they will need him.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 10:07 PM EST reply actions
Watching these two teams play and the alot of the Giants players look small
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
When, oh when, will Manningham learn to run the correct pass route?
Probably next year when he is in a Broncos uniform….they’ve dumbed down their offense quite a bit.
Quinn must go !!
Wasn't Manningham's Wonderlic score something like -2?
I expected more from him this year.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 11:28 PM EST reply actions
They both run 3-4 defenses
They better have good linebackers.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
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