'Kudos & Wet Willies,' JPP Stands Alone Edition
It is time to review Sunday's latest New York Giants debacle, a 23-10 potentially season-killing loss to the Washington Redskins, in our usual 'Kudos & Wet Willies' style. You might already be able to guess, but it's going to short list of 'Kudos' and a long -- maybe very long -- list of 'Wet Willies.'
So, let's get started.
Kudos To ...
- Jason Pierre-Paul: Sixteen tackles, a sack and a tip that nearly turned into a blocked field goal. There was that weird play where he could have tackled Dorrell Young except he didn't know who had the ball, but the guys is very clearly a dominating defensive player. He played with energy, with passion and with force. If only the Giants could clone the guy.
Wet Willies To ...
Pretty much everybody on the Giants sideline not wearing No. 90 could or should be on this list following the latest shameful effort by the Giants. We have seen this sort of lifeless, sleepwalking, mistake-filled performance all too often from the Giants in recent seasons. I don't know the reason for it, or who is to blame for it. What I do know is that for a team that considers itself to be a contender to play so poorly so often is simply not acceptable.
Now, on to the individual 'Wet Willies.'
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Antrel Rolle: Can someone please find the mute button on this guy? ESPN's Dan Graziano called Rolle's rambling post-game comments in which he threw some of his teammates under the bus for not practicing with injuries, took what can be considered a cheap shot at the offense and continued to insist that the 7-7 Giants "have it" a "weird diatribe."
Rolle needs to stop talking. First of all, pointing fingers at teammates like Justin Tuck -- who played pretty well despite being limited by a myriad of physical ailments -- does not help. Questioning an offense, albeit in a veiled manner, that has carried a porous defense all season is uncalled for.
Thirdly, Rolle's own play has been and continues to be part of the problem. He was directly responsible for Washington's first touchdown, failing to make a tackle on third-and-17 that would have forced a punt and instead allowed the Redskins to gain nine extra yards, convert a fourth-and-one and go on to score. He also had Darrel Young run right through him on the Redskins second touchdown, which made the score 17-0. And we haven't even talked about his problems in pass coverage, where he has been a liability all season. - Hakeem Nicks: One of the best receivers the Giants franchise has ever had, but had a horrible game Sunday. He dropped two touchdown passes, a potential 54-yarder early that completely changed the feeling of the game and the crowd at MetLife Stadium, and one from inside the 10-yard line late on a drive where the Giants got to the two-yard line and failed to score.
- Tom Coughlin: When your time continues to play poorly in big games against teams it should defeat the head coach has to take a hit. This keeps happening to Coughlin's teams, as do the ridiculously poor second halves of seasons. The lack of fight that we see all too often has to be an indictment of the guy at the top.
- Perry Fewell: More of the same for the Giants defense. Communication breakdowns in the secondary, soft or non-existent pass coverage at other times, lack of pass rush from anyone other than Pierre-Paul and run defense that simply is not good enough. The Giants have sustained a lot of injuries on defense, but I continue to believe there is enough talent left for this group to be better than it is.
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Prince Amukamara: I saw some comments on Sunday labeling the Giants' first-round pick a "bust." To do that is blatantly unfair. The guy had no off-season, broke his foot in his second practice, missed more than half the season, is apparently still not 100 percent physically and is struggling to understand coverage schemes that even his veteran teammates keep screwing up. Give the kid a real chance and I believe he will be a good player for the Giants for years to come.
That said, Prince was terrible on Sunday. He admitted that he screwed up the coverage on the 20-yard touchdown pass to Santana Moss that gave the Redskins a 10-0 lead. Thing is, watch the replay and you see Amukamara was never in position where he had any chance to cover Moss on a break to the outside, anyway. His failure to tackle Jabar Gaffney on a third-and-10 completion in the red zone led directly to Washington's second touchdown.
The Giants were right to bench him in the second half. Washington was targeting Amukamara, and he was basically helpless to do anything about it. - Mario Manningham: In his fourth year in the league, and his fourth season working with Eli Manning, you would think the guy would be able to run the correct pass routes. As he has so often, though, Manningham cost the Giants Sunday by breaking off a fade route that caused a Manning interception and pretty much killed any hopes of a second-half comeback. The incredulous look on Manning's face said it all. Rather than the 'Manning Face,' I may start calling it the 'Manningham Face.' Manningham can be a free agent at the end of the season, and I wonder how hard the Giants will try to keep him.
- David Diehl: Hard to single out one offensive lineman on a day when Manning was under pressure and was sacked three times. Diehl, though, had a devastating holding penalty that took a touchdown off the board.
Final Thoughts
You will notice that Eli Manning is not on my list of 'Wet Willies.' Considering the dropped touchdown passes, messed-up routes and penalties that negated Giants' touchdowns I find it hard to give Manning a 'WW.' He underthrew the ball ever so slightly on two of his interceptions, but credit the Redskins with great plays on both of those. The guy has been magical all season, and I'm not going to kill him for one game where he couldn't rise above the stench of what was going on around him.
I also have to note that FOX commentators Joe Buck and Troy Aikman were all over the fact that the Giants appeared to be lifeless and in trouble very early in the game. Buck, particularly, nailed that observation. Also credit Aikman on the Moss touchdown. He, obviously, learned from the Rolle-Cris Collinsworth brouhaha and , fidgeting a little uncomfortably, did not place specific blame on Amukamara or Kenny Phillips for the play, rather noted there was a noticeable breakdown.
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I thought Webster played really well....
I know it’s hard to look at the positives when everything is so negative, but he’s the only other guy i’d put up there. Boley, Webster, and JPP….they’re are best 3 defenders this season.
Fire Fewell
on the flip side...
I thought Rolle played absolutely horrible….like Dave Diehl horrible.
Fire Fewell
Well I for one will defend him on this
Im tired of him playing corner back and linebacker. We signed a safety who’s a pretty damn good one when allowed to be one. Instead he plays everywhere else so I gotta giv him some credit for that. @ least he’s selling out for the team.
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree. Better than Aaron "I don't play safety" Ross
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Aaron "I don't cover anyone" Ross - ha
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
he can get beat playing CB
I don’t care…in fact i expect it.
I also expect him to make tackles though….which he couldn’t even do yesterday.
spewing more BS is the kicker for me though
Fire Fewell
Def agree on that
He can’t be missing tackles trying to be the leader as well as being one of the highest paid guys on the team. But I still want him playing safety rather than being a hybrid this or hybrid that. That’s not what he signed up for and that’s not what we needed when we signed em
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Buck and Aikman
always go into the “lifeless” and “lack of fire” routine when the Giants are getting blown out. All we were missing was a Pam Oliver report on the sideline, although that was basically what her post-halftime report was. How about offering some analysis instead of going to a lazy cop-out? The Giants were getting their butts kicked, of course they “looked” lifeless, but playing badly doesn’t equal lack of intensity. I think we’ve seen enough of this defense (the offense was just a little off kilter yesterday, I think) to know there are some issues there that can’t be cured by some extra fire.
by Mount17 on Dec 19, 2011 10:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can't stand those dudes
and I’d like to know what the Giants’ record is this year in games they call. I feel like it’s always a bad omen
by Mike Farley on Dec 19, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see a report
on how many teams that lost a game weren’t lifeless. That’s a bs soap opera storyline for me. And like you said it’s a favorite of Buck – Aikman and FOX in general.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Thank you
The defense is not good – plain and simple. All the “fire” in the world can’t magically turn an awful secondary and linebacking corps into a good one. Also, news flash: When teams play poorly and are getting blown out, they look depressed and beat. When they play well, they look fired-up. No one’s waving a towel on the sideline when you’re losing by 3 TDs or whatever.
by dontstopbelieving on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
thats not completely true
Some players, like JPP, play angry. JPP plays angry. Others, like Tuck, need to play with some anger. He just sits on the sidelines with a “who cares” look.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they both suck
Buck is more worried about whatever story was beaten to death in the media that week than the game. If he’d let Troy do more game analysis, it would be half watchable.
to be fair
They (Giants) did look like a bunch of putzes. JPP and the interior D-line did a good job, but very few other people were playing like they really wanted it. It wasn’t just on the defensive side of the ball, where we’ve all chronicled their failures, but on offense as well – usually a better facet of the Giants. The O-line screwed up, and it wasn’t just Deihl. The receivers screwed up, and it wasn’t just Cruz. Manning underthrew some balls, which isn’t standard for him. I give Eli a pass, given all the drops and pressures and what have you, but the end result still wasn’t a quality outing.
Yea, it’s a copout not to actually analyze the game, but they actually had a point out there – this is the same group that conquered the Patriots in Foxboro, Cowboys in Dallas and nearly toppled the Packers. It’s also the same group that fell to the Seahawks and Redskins twice this year. Kudos to, of ALL people, Joe Buck, for wondering why they didn’t go to no-huddle early to try and fire the team up. He rightfully noted that Eli performs well with the NH, and it might get the momentum back on their side.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 19, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
16 tackles by a defensive end is both a credit to JPP
and also shows how bad the defense is. 16 tackles by your DE?!?!?! ahhh
Osi
Doesn’t register 16 tackles in an entire season. Osi needs to leave. He’s overrated and a cancer.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its a shame
They didn’t trade him away at the beginning of the season. I know they wanted a lot for him, but now that he’s been injured multiple games and when he does play he is heavily exploited in running plays his stock is even lower than it was in the preseason IMO.
I really can’t see a reason for him to be starting anymore with how good JPP plays in his place (especially on runs)…but you know he won’t like anything less than his position back.
if your DE gets 16 tackles its a good thing
definitely does not show that your defense is bad. If your safety’s getting 16 tackles, that’s bad.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Right on..that's a fact..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Top to Bottom Failure and @ home.
Embarrasing, especially being embarrassed at home. No life, No fight. Need to move aside and let more well prepared teams entertain us in the playoffs. I like when Eli tries to get on the receivers from AFAR, he is no leader, he doesn’t have the guts to get on their faces, why? Cus Eli is one or two plays away from making BIG mistakes, so in his head he has no room for trying to correct anyone when he himself is a big mistake waiting to happen in every game mind you. So big WW to him!
AND
WW to Ross, is it just me or he looks like he is running on grease on every play. Is like seeing a cartoon with that guy, like when Fred Flinstone is chasing Barney and runs in mid-air to get a head start!
Agree about Eli.
I saw a lot more than just 2 under thrown passes. See through a lot of balls behind the receiver, especially Cruz. Other passes were thrown at the feet of the overthrown and still other passes were just overthrown. Yet, here we are again refusing to cast some blame a supposed leader.
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the guy who is most responsible for the 7 wins
gets a pass for one game vs someone like Ross or Diehl who is consistently awful. Especially considering he got very little help.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Yeah he missed some throws
He also has tied the record for most 4th quarter comebacks EVER. He’s picked this sorry team up by the scruff of its neck and has dragged them to the brink of the playoffs AGAIN. He’s 75% of the reason we’re not 3-11 right now. He has one bad game and now he’s not a leader. Disgusting fair weather fandom.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 7 recs
rec'd so hard
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
All of you can give that "Eli is god crap" a rest.
He is a overrated, responsibility evader who can’t get his team to the playoffs. He is just as mich responsible for the Giants losses as any other member on this team. The day he takes the field without the rest of the team and wins single-handedly is the day he will get my respect, until then, he is an overpaid average QB.
by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is a Saint, not a God...

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
she's SO HOT, but I wish her eyes didn't do that
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
much better, I can now commence eye f----ing the shizz out of her now.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
::cough cough:: ……::takes deep breath::
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
pure ignorance
You were singing praises all season. One OK game with many drops and now Eli Is overrated. I guess Rodgers is also overrated because he had a bad game.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wah,wah,wah.
So you want Dave Brown back punk?
Soooo
you’re saying there is no possible way for him to gain your respect. Well at least you’re honest about how you feel Lo. I think you have a horrible sense of loyalty to the best QB this team has ever had. He’s not “God” and I’d love for you to link to a single person that said that. But he is the 4th or 5th best QB playing this game this year and we’re lucky to have him. Like I said, haters just lay in wait until they have a small sliver to jump at, and then they pounce like snakes from under a rock.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
he’s 100% of why were not 1-13. The Ram game was the only game we did not need him to be great to win. We are like the other team with a Manning as their QB hopless without him
I’m not gonna argue that Manning has carried this team, but since when is Kudos and Wet Willies a lifetime achievement award? Eli deserves a wet one for this game; he didn’t play well.
I'd give him a kwillie
because while he didn’t play well if not for drops by nicks that should’ve been TD’s, manningham running the wrong route and diehl making that holding penalty he might’ve thrown 3 touchdowns and only two picks. Also the interceptions we’re great plays by the skins’s player’s.
by marylandgiant on Dec 19, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo
well said.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
He also
deserves a WW for this particular game, if you took off your blue shades, might see that!
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring", and now a chest...Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 20, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
give it a rest
It was 20 degrees. Rex underthrew also. The Hall INT was underthrown by inches. Hall made a great catch. You and others expect perfection. Its an unfair expectation.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wet Willies to John Mara
John Mara said this below in 2010 and did nothing! Let see what he does in 2012 based on his leadership is nothing.
Minutes after coach Tom Coughlin talked in generalities about fixing the Giants and after general manager Jerry Reese used the injury crutch to explain the team’s average season that concluded on Sunday with a second straight embarrassing loss, team president and CEO John Mara walked into the media room and unloaded on his team.
Mara’s words were so poignant and perfect they deserved to be disturbed as little as possible. So here he is unleaded:
On how disappointing this season was
"Probably as disappointed as I’ve ever been in my life at this team, given the expectations we had this year, given the roster I thought we had, given the way we started out and given the embarrassment of the last two weeks."
On what he’s disappointed about
"Everything. I’m disappointed in everything. I’m unhappy at everybody. It’s just not acceptable to perform like that. There are 8-8 seasons and there are 8-8 seasons, but this one felt a lot more like 2-14 to me."
On if he’ll be influenced more by what he saw late in the season than in the 5-0 start
"Well, I’m less than 24 hours after the end of the season, so I’m sure I’ll cool down at some point and we’ll try to make intelligent decisions going forward. And I’ll sit down with the coaches and general manager. We’ll do what we need to do to improve the team, but obviously I’m not very happy right now and they know that."
On if the last two games revealed anything
“Well, even before the last two games there were at least four other losses where we were just noncompetitive. Obviously, the last two games were the worst. Having that many games where you get blown out, there’s something wrong. And that means something has to be done.”
On what it was in particular that angered him
“Given the expectations we had, given the roster we thought we had coming into the season … we start out 5-0 and you start thinking about the postseason. We just did not expect it to end this way – particularly the last two weeks. That was the icing on the cake.”
On whether it was a lack of fight or pride
“A lack of mental and physical toughness and, quite frankly, a lack of effort over the last two weeks. That’s just something I never expected to see from this group of players.”
On what he’d tell the fans
“We’re going to do what we need to do to improve the team. We’re not going to leave any stone unturned.”
That was after the 2009 season
That’s when the Giants finished 8-8. In 2010-11 they finished 10-6.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Get your number straight
NYG are 7-7 and if they win both games it 9-7.
And after all that smoke blown up...
the fans assholes…….It’s right back to the status quo!! SMH
"Can't win with Tom Quinn"
"...we’ll try to make intelligent decisions going forward."
So he thought extending TC’s contract was a “intelligent decision”?
Are you kidding me?
One off game (not even horrible, just not superb) and we bring back the tired old “he’s not a leader” bullshit? If you are not on the Giants’ sideline during the game, or in their locker room, or present at every practice then you have NFI how much a leader he is or is not. Basing it off of a camera shot is so amazingly batshit crazy my mind can’t even comprehend it. Some people are bound to be haters no matter whatt he does for this team.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pure nonsense
Dont even let em get to you BBI
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
ha that was BBthru.....I ain't even mad
when stuff like this gets spewed out.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
One off game (not even horrible, just not superb)
Leadership starts at the top and a team reflect it leader. At 7-7 and not making the playoffs in years in any company it stop at the top.
But you must have some close connection with John to know what he does for the team.
This was a reply
to the Eli bashing, not John Mara. I’m just happy we have a classy owner who doesn’t need to have the camera on him thirty times a game, unlike Jerruh.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
ENOUGH
With the Eli leader BS. Getting in Hams face isn’t going to change a thing. He will still run the wrong routes
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
+82
They don’t come much dumber than Ham
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sounds liks a song.. "Dumber than HAAAMM.."
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
Oddly
Our Run game was actually not horrible for what they did. Over 5 yards per carry. They put up 23 points but again, our defense had 2 turnovers and held the offense to less than 300 yards total offense. The overall incompetence of our offense cost us this game.
Yuuuuuuup
Everytime our defense starts a game out well our O throws it back in their face. We never play a complete game. If our O had done anything early on with the two Ints the D got could’ve been a diff game instead its 3 n out or 1 first down than a punt. We’re fucking Terrible and don’t deserve to be in the playoffs
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A little misleading
Starting in the late first quarter the D couldn’t get off the field. The time of possession differentiation killed our chance of getting some momentum on O after the dropped passes etc. Also they got mauled on the line with Washington lining up and just whipping us at the point of attack on the run.
It could be worse. I could be a Jets fan.
Yeah, but our O wasn't helping our D any...
They only put up 23 points in 35 minutes. Our O should have easily out scored them.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Dec 19, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
only 23
The Skins could have easily ran up the score. They pretty much stopped passing and only ran the ball. The 23 could have easily been 37.
Perry Fewell Stinks!
by GMen56-11 on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And our 10 should have been 0
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Nope....
Don’t forget that after the first pick of the second half, we held them to a field goal, but then we had a long drive that took the majority of the third quarter only to throw a pick inside the red zone. The offense didn’t play good at all, and they were outcoached
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Dec 19, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
The D couldn’t get off the field because the offense was never on it. Our longest drive in the first half was less than 4 minutes long and only one of them was more than 2 minutes. Terrible.
by Midnight Blue on Dec 19, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Is it just me
Or does it look like Josh Wilson sat on that fade to manningham and Hall was waiting for that corner route on the double coverage of Nicks on the second int??? Think they were paying any attention to our previous games? Jus a thought
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The O
can’t do much against good defenses, and the D can’t do much against any offense. Not a good combo. The O line needs to be fixed and the whole coaching staff must go.
by NYStateofMind on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Weatherford should get a shoutout. All his punts were over 50 yards I believe and almost all went out of bounds.
Also, Kevin Boothe was dominant yesterday.
Agreed on everything else. Thank you for the Prince Amukamara part….overreaction can go to ridiculous lengths.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions
true
i guess the issue is usually when the punter is shining, it’s because he’s out there alot. which is a negative. So Stevie usually does his things on negative days, which doesn’t bode well for him getting into the kudos category.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Weatherford is our unsung ST hero
The guy is doing a phenomenal job. I think he’s shanked 1 punt all year.
Yea I don't know what people expected from Prince
I mean sure he’s struggling but WTF, he had 0 preseason. If he’s playing like this in 2013 then he’s a bust till then just hope he imporves.
Yah, but he was our first round pick.
He was expected to go higher than us. That means he has the skills to play and the mental ability to play from the start. First round picks are expected and should play from day one. But it still is too early to call him a bust.
a few additional thoughts
the Redskins’ three picks were all great catches, especially the first two—the one that dude (can’t remember his name) wouldn’t let it hit the ground….and the one Hall caught with one hand. Then the one in the end zone was a nice tip toe move while maintaining possession.
And that catch by Bradshaw was pretty sweet too.
Oh and DJ Ware, why are you popping the ball up like a volleyball? Wait, why are you 30 yards down field????
If they just improved the execution a bit
Every time I hear that I start to wretch.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Yeahs that's maybe where Barden should be
But that’s probably not the objective of our offense
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Atogwe
and Eli gets a WW from me, that’s the way it is.
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring", and now a chest...Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 19, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Haters gonna hate
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
took my daughter to see alvin and the chimpmunk
Recorded the game didn’t even watch it and erased it as soon a I got home…
by omfGIANTS on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
wish i did the same
havnt been that mad watching a game since… well…. the Saints debacle.
by Plaxico Burress on Dec 19, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yuuuuuup I refuse to watch this game
With my Sunday ticket thru my PS3 I watch other games and Houston games than jus watch giant games I’ve recorded. Not wasting any time on this one
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Painful
This was one of the first games in eon’s that I stopped watching before the game was over.
I was pissed!
Your my Boy Blue!!!!!
Not me, I watched the whole nightmare..So I'll have that crap archived in memory..I have
Plenty of those “Remember when we sucked” archived …
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
i did too
so that way, next time were stinking it up and im basically sitting on my porch after a game, i can say “i never, EVER seen a team this bad” then i can think back to that game, and maybe, just maybe i can feel a little better
"I like prime rib, and I'd love to win a Super Bowl" -Andy Reid
I know it is a squirrel but close enough...

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
great move, it was a horrible experience watching it, I almost threw up
I had to turn it off in the 4th quarter, couldn’t finish it, esp. when I knew it was basically over…but the whole game was such lackluster effort…except for a hand full of guys – mainly “JPP”
16? 16?! ..wow…
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
Time for TC to ride off into the sunset
Too many weeks of negatives outweighing the positives. Defensive scheme is horrible as well.
No playoffs
= no more TC. That simple.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Dec 19, 2011 11:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is already gone....
This team will not make the playoffs as it will go 1-1 at best the rest of the way.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
If you can get see the future
Can we split the next Powerball?
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yuck
But… while the game itself was disappointing, haven’t we all seen the writing on the wall for months that this Giants team isn’t all that good?
Nah man we've just seen inconsistent play
They played great against Philly in the firs game. @ New England against GB than clunkers like Seattle both Washington games and the Philly game. We’re just too inconsistent and that falls on the head coach
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Completely baffling...
Thing is we still can get to the dance if we win out.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Kinda tired of these "we can still" "if this happens" "we control our own destiny"
We SUCK BOTTOMLINE
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So your done?
You give up, got the white flag waving?
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I've been done since goff went down
And we lost to the redskins and seahawks. We’ve won no gimme games which we haven’t been the past couple yrs which will ultimately lead to us not making the playoffs yet again. So guess u can kinda say yes,
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thats fine
Please dont come back if they do make the playoffs.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK, inconsistent is fair
but on some level, every team except the 14-0 Dolphins and the 16-0 Patriots (and, I suppose, the 0-14 Bucs and the 0-16 Lions) is inconsistent. The Packers are still a really good team, but they lost to the Chiefs yesterday. No team plays at 100% of their absolute maximum level every game, because there are just too many moving parts for that to happen. But this year’s Giants team’s 100% maximum level just isn’t good enough; no team that gets shredded by Rex Grossman twice in one season can claim to be all that good.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be proven wrong and see the Giants go on a run to the playoffs, but I just don’t see it happening.
Josh - You hit the nail on the head!
We are just not that good. Period. We felt good because we competed with GB, but now we learn that GB’s defense is amost as bad as ours. We felt good because we beat the cowboys, but in truth, they beat themselves and they aren’t all that good either. Even if we win out, all it’s going mean is a first round exit in the playoffs.
This is really
Kudo and Wet Willies
If we hadn’t seen the Seattle game, it would have been dumbfounding, but then we saw Philly at home, and you knew this team had no consistency. Man did they look like a bunch of bumbling buffoons out there.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Sad Thing is...
We’ve become the laughing stock of the NFC East. I’ve never seen so many analysts laugh at what’s happening with the Giants. It’s really pathetic to see our team captain on defense continuously shrug his shoulders and say, " I just don’t know where we went wrong at.." and all the leaders on this team get up there and say that they’re disappointed with their performance, but the next game they’ll play better. They are starting to sound like a broken record. It’s a shame that even with all the turnovers that we had last year, that we still had a better record than we do now. Performances like that one is the main reason that Giants fans act the way that they do. We are a disgrace to that Blue uniform. People are even thinking that the Eggles might make the playoffs before we do.
by PaulieKnucklez1 on Dec 19, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Sadness
Man oh man! I hate to say it but at this point I really don’t want the Giants to make the Playoffs.
I don’t want to give Fewell and possibilities of returning. I think we are going to see a very different team next year. Please let PF be gone, I think Jacobs could be gone, Diehl and McKensie have got to go, Manningham is a ?.
I think some Overhaulin is in need.
Your my Boy Blue!!!!!
get in and take my chances...
As Tuna would say.
Nope
People in 2007 thought they were too inconsistent and didn’t have a chance to do anything. You root to win as many times as possible every season. That’s the only point of professional sports.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm actually with you on this one
I am going to still root for them to make it to the playoffs, but I’m not holding my breath either, it’ll make the pain that much more bearable IF they don’t.
That being said, I’d rather they get a lower draft pick for next year’s draft :)
if that is the case that they don’t make it into the playoffs.
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
I think Gildbride deserves a Wet Willie as well.
The play calling was pretty awful. Starting with 3 straight passes on the first possession of the game (no effort to establish the run from the start). Going deep on third downs rather than converting and continuing drives (although you can’t blame the drops on him).
Don’t you think Gilbride has to somewhat adjust to how bad the defense is? You would think he would want long, sustaining drives that keep the offense on the field and the defense off the field, but he seems to want these quick scoring drives. Doesn’t make sense.
Run
and they have been running so much better yet he ignores that. It just shows you how incompetant the staff is. They never make adjustments which tells me they are incapeable of doing so.
Going deep on 3rd down
This has been driving me crazy all year. Even on 3rd & short we take a low percentage long shot many times and end up punting. That is why the offense has stunk for the first 3 quarters of most games this year.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agree is spades
totally predictable. third down, throw a bomb. ridiculous.
Watch other teams
This is standard practice in the NFL. If you get man coverage on the outside all teams take shots down the field. If Nicks makes that catch there would be no complaining. It’s not the play call, it’s the players.
by Ed Valentine on Dec 19, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Its not Gilbride's fault that Nicks dropped the ball
and sure if he caught it, we would be singing a different tune.
But the fact is most teams have a better defense than we do. You would think that the coaching staff would want long, clock eating drives to keep the defense off the field.
It comes down to execution and that falls on the players, but I don’t like the play calling either.
I don't know
It may be standard practice but how many times have you seen a 3rd and 4-7 and we run a 5-8 yard pattern. I have no stats to support this but i feel we go deep on 3rd more then anyone in the league and while i love a homerun, sometimes you just got to get a first down, which we seem not to try to do, ever
by RamboBavaro on Dec 19, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I watch plenty of other teams
That coverage is good for taking a shot but by no means should you default to taking a shot when you get it because that is still a low percentage play. Down, distance, field position, and game situation need to be considered. 3rd & 7 from your own 35 sure take a shot. 3rd & 2 from your opponents 45 (like the opening drive of the New England game) is a bad idea.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Killdrive was bad
But when your best wideout drops to sure TD’s it makes your game calling look worse than it was. Killdrive lacks imagination and his play calling is questionable sometimes, but is it to much to ask for our D ot hold us in a game till the O get’s rolling or at least scores a couple of points.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
If Nicks and Manningham don’t have so many drops, were are all singing a different tune. Also, the loss of Ballard was huge.
Out Coached by
Haslett +1
Killdrive-1
"Beckum is Beckum, it's a hamstring", and now a chest...Tommy Coughlin
by Great Gatsby on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I knew as soon as ESPN ran a story before the game talking about how big Hakeem Nicks’ hands are, we were in trouble. How a guy with hands as big as catchers mitts can drop passes like he does is unbelievable.
While I understand that coaches don’t drop passes, coaches don’t miss tackles, and coaches don’t run routes, coaches DO get teams prepared to play, and this team has laid enough December eggs to make a Flintstone-sized omelette for me to see something is miserably broken. Wellington Mara is turning like a rotisserie chicken in his grave watching this team play defense. What happened to “Giants Pride”?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 19, 2011 10:40 AM EST reply actions
It comes down to adjustments
and this coaching staff doesn’t make adjustments. They have their schemes and their gameplans and their styles, and they refuse to adjust to what the personnel can actually do. They are stubborn and conservative, and I don’t think you can succeed with that mentality in today’s NFL. This was on full display against the Redskins.
You can't adjust an engine with a blown head gasket..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
thats BS
if something doesn’t work for weeks on end, you have to make adjustments. or you lose your job, which is what will happen.
Bobbie always brings up nonsense lol
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
its a BS excuse
wahhh we don’t have the personnel to make adjustments. John Fox is gonna make the playoffs with Tim Tebow as his QB because he made the necessary adjustments.
John Fox is going to make the playoffs despite Tebow
and because his offensive line, defense and special teams are playing lights out.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
and also because he adjusted his offense from a pro-style
to an option and it made tebow better than he would’ve been in the previous system. aka an adjustment.
Not you Blains I was saying Bobbie made a good point
Fox did make the necessary adjustment once he saw Tebow couldn’t do what Orton was capable of, and changing the scheme might help Tebow and the team. Which it has which PROBABLY ALL coaches wouldnt do, do u gotta giv him credit for the guts he’s displayed
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
True he made an adjustment
But he made it because tebow is not an nfl ready qb. Not even close. I think they are winning despite tebow and not because of tebow. I believe that if the running game, defense and special teams played like this for Orton he would still the QB in denver.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Maybe their running game is better because
of Tebow. Teams need to account for him too as a runner, he gets 50-60yds rushing a game. This opens things up a bit for the backs. The better running game keeps the D off the field which keeps them fresher. The guy is not a good passer (yet) but give him some credit. It was not just a coincidence.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
its better because of tebow and the change to the "tebow system"
the broncos stunk running the ball with orton
Oh I totally agree Fox did awesome job
adjusting the offense to Tebow’s talents.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unlike our staff
where the attitude seems to be we run what we run and players have function within it.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 12:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LB
Drafting a stud LBer helped too.
HEY JERRY- Alabama has two STUD Linebackers coming out- how about picking one up? You think that would help?
they run a 3-4. People would be crying about getting another Sintim.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
They'd be screaming that JR traded 3 #1s to move up
And that he was destroying the franchise
I think everyone in the entire organization would be thrilled if a Von Miller caliber LB prospect slipped thru to them, but you don’t draft top 5 winning 8 or more games.
And just my opinion, the Entire defense was spotty, not just the LBs so why obsess on any one piece.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
The LBs in a base 4-3 are the least important position.
The LBs in a cover 2 system are very important….therein lies part of the problem.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Thats it
That is why Fewell had to play safeties at Lber.
Getting out of the Cover 2 is essential to returning the players to their positions of stregnth.
My question is why is no one in the Giants Heirarchy thinking about these issues before they arise! They knew What Fewell was bringing!
Good point brah-man
Barden still not being used is baffling, no reason we can’t go 4wide with Eli under center and a back to scare them from both a passing and running ability but I guess I’m jus dreaming
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Think I saw it once yesterday.
It just puts Deihl and KMac in bad spots and Eli’s life on the line.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Get it out quick
Doesnt have to be a bomb down field. And what’s the diff if Ballards out there and he runs a route with 3 other recievers. There’s no diff
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ballard can get a chip on the DE along with the RB.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Just think of the Shotgun draws Killdrive could run from a 4 WR set!
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Dec 19, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I would want Eli under center
Not in shotgun. There’s no threat of the run except for a draw when in shotgun. If he’s under center with 4 wide there’s a multitude of things they can do
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not just yesterday's game
Saying overall it would be a nice change from the norm. Get it out quick make the d play multile things
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
3 yrs & not one endzone chance for a 6'6" WR
It’s just ridiculous.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
who made plays
Its not like barden has done nothing either. He has shown he can make catches.
But stubborn old man Coughlin and his sidekick KG HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how to utilize talent to the best of their abilities.
Eli flourished this season DESPITE KG.
Hahaha!!!..My nonsense comes from being a 45+ year seasoned veteran Giants fan..
Nothing about these Giants teams surprises me anymore..It is a shame how they are not taking advantage of the talent they have on this one..and Coughlin won a Super Bowl, but bid deal..that didn’t earn him a lifetime key to the city..and I am tired of players like Rolle and Osi with their big mouths, and players pissing and moaning about injuries..If you can’t play then sit your ass down..I don’t want to hear bullshit all week about it, just let me know who’s playing so I can root for them..and Coaches, if you got a guy or two in there that doesn’t belong in there then yank them out and stick somebody else in there..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I've gotten to the point where I'm ok with losing out
just so the team will take a harder look and make some changes.
Clearly the defense is blown up, period. Rolle is being an asshole calling out teammates in public, but in fairness, Fewell called out his players as a whole in public after New Orleans.
Rolle is trying to step into a leadership void and while he lacks the role, status, legitimacy or the intelligence to do it, the void is still there. Tuck is moping but trying to get through whatever his ailments are, but Fewell has lost this team.
And I can’t imagine any of this is fun for TC. I like the guy, but I wouldn’t be too sure if his wife isn’t saying to him, you know Tom, time with the grandkids and with the Jay Fund might not be so bad at this stage of our lives.
Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
+1
I don’t want to make the playoffs. I can’t stand this coaching staff. How you can be a professional coach in the NFL and not make necessary adjustments just boggles my mind.
Id rather us miss the playoffs get a good draft pick and change coaching staffs
Than to make it, lose eventually, get a late pick keep this abysmal coaching staff and proceed to next yr. I actually hope the eagles make it. Their the only team from this division that can compete with the rest of the NFC teams. We don’t deserve it
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
If we make the playoffs, we get beat 1st round, the coaching staff stays and we repeat this next year. Give me a top 15-20 pick and a new coaching staff please.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Nooooooo
You take every chance you get to win because you never know when you’ll get a chance to get back in. You root for your team to win, no matter what. Tanking a season is for the NBA.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no. the whole point of a season is to get to the playoffs.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
that's sarcastic, right?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
apparently.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thats supposed to be the coaches and teams mentality
As a fan, I know they are going to lose in the first round if they make the playoffs. I know if they make the playoffs, TC is safe, likely Gilbride too but probably not PF.
As a fan, I’m sick of the same thing happening almost every year. TC gets credit for 2007-2008 but every other year besides that has been riddled with disappointment. I don’t want to watch this team next year if they are going to be coached the same way.
I’d rather miss the playoffs, get a new coach and a higher draft pick. You can hold on to your pipe dreams about making the playoffs and making a run, I’ll stick with reality.
We as fans know absolutely nothing. Nothing.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I know that the team is not very good and making the playoffs would be a shock
let alone winning a game in the playoffs.
It is possible? Sure. It is going to happen? Most likely no.
So again, you can hold on to the pipe dream that we suddenly ignite and make the playoffs. I want a change from what has been the team’s MO every year under TC except for 1.
and yet
i still think if they make it to the show they can scare people. i still dont think the defense is as bad as any defense the giants have ever put on the field. i still think that eli is clutch even when the weather isnt perfect. i still have faith in our receivers to make clutch catches in important situations. i still think the leadership will grit out a victory.
etc. etc. etc.
i agree with most of that
except the defense is really bad and won’t stand a chance against the Falcons or Lions, let alone the Packers or Saints.
You working for Colonel Klink?
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Leader
Rolle is the polar opposite of a leader. He is a divider. He is a loudmouth that is full of nonsense. Much like that poster we have here at bbv- cntr.
Exactly
A guy who is all mouth and then doesn’t make the plays on Sunday is totally tuned out by the lockerroom.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Rolle's leadership is a joke
First of all you have to play a good game before you call out your teamates, maybe it was me, but Rolle sure looked terrible to me out there. Even if we loose the rest of our games I am not sure TC is going to get fired, becasue they might use the injuries as an excuse.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Let the man play safety and he will probably play a good game
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let the man play safety and he will probably play a good game
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let him make a tackle
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Ed, I am in total agreement..the only Kudo goes to JPP
The rest of that team ought to be ashamed..I don’t know what these bums said..because I am not going to read that crap..anymore..I already know it is loaded with the same old BS..week in and week out..
As far as Eli goes..let’s face he had a horrible game also..yeah he threw some nice balls a few time but they were dropped, the rest of his throws were off target..So I can’t keep him on the pedistal this week..and that Diehl..boy did he crash and burn all day..Does Flaherty have anyone he can replace that bum with?…
This team was a collective cluster bomb..Time to blow up my Fart Blimp…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Before Mr. Mara and Mr. Tisch and JR give TC an extension
I hope they watch this tape again and think hard if it’s time for a change. Losing is one thing, it happens it’s part of the game. Not showing up for big games is on the coach and the coaching staff, these guys are not motivated.
Watch Rolle is going to go on Joe and Evan’s show and open his big trap and cause a more chaos. TC needs to pull this guy in his office and tell him to shut it and do his job, because Rolle sucks out there.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 10:48 AM EST reply actions
Is it wrong that every time the Rams lose I hope that it brings Spags one step closer to a return to the Giants?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Dec 19, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions
I'd offer him either.
Rather see him focus on DC though.
terrible HC, good DC
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
IDK about Spags being terrible HC
St. Louis is a tough spot he might be one of those HC’s that succeds with a team like the Giants. A franchise QB in place and some defesive pieces. I mean his players seem to play hard for him I just think they don’t have enough O down their in St. Louie.
problem is they regressed. I'd be more lax on them if they didn't almost go .500 the year before and DIDN'T
add more pieces. Though I agree that they have been hit almost as hard by the injury bug as we have.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Lost Steve Jax for almost the whole year
And Bradford regressed a bit ( happens a lot, he’ll be fine)
I’d like to see what he could do with a real roster.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
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by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
I dunno, still ain't convinced. No reason why....call it a gut feeling.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
They regressed because of McDaniels.
Even Bradford regressed under McDaniels. Bradford was looking strong towards the end of last year. So only difference was McDaniels.
if he comes in as HC, he will bring in his own DC...none of this Tom Foolery
sorry TC, I like you, but liking you and winning are 2 very different things
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
he's all but gone from St Louis
he probably has to win out and he’s definitely not doing that against Pittsburgh and San Fran.
kudos to devin thomas
for a lackluster special teams crew, he stood out yesterday and really earned his keep.
Scott
I thought Scott also showed alot of speed and return ability. Too Bad Tom Quinn could not show his players how to create a seam. A good return team would have sprung a hole for Scott or Thomas to jet through.
Quinn is an average to bad coach
Just be happy the Special Teams has not hurt us this year, I am just happy we can know execute a punt without drama.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately that is the recipe for MOST of our staff this year.
Would only keep three coaches.
OL, WR and Def backfield
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
TE?? coach pope is the best
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
It's not an excuse.... but
It appeared to me on a couple of plays (like the Nicks TD drop) that the sun might have been a factor… and I don’t recall a lot of normal 1 o’clock games this year.
That said, it is time for a house cleaning for the Giants. While I don’t blame everything on the coaches they have to be the first to go. TC has very consistently given us poor late season play and inconsistent effort from week to week.
Maybe just maybe, I’d keep Gilbride but I wouldn’t lose any sleep if we cleaned him out as well.
Your kidding right?!? Sun??..That pass was one a the few perfect throws from Eli..
He let it pass right thru his hads and hit him face..He looked like he got hit with a bird turd..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Were the Redskins playing in the shade??..or wearing Shades?..I don't want to hear about bullcrap contributing
factors when the othe damn team is catching balls all day long..and we’re making a crappy QB look like Johnny Unitas..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Alot of folks out here have said this team really has overrated talent..
Well I’ve watched the Giants for over 45 years..This team does have talent..More talent that any Giants team I ever watched, including the ‘86 and ’90 teams..So any inference that claims we don’t have talented players is hogwash..This team needs coaching..I sick of even watching them try to return a kick, I cringe..I holler at the TV “take a knee !!!”..those fools can’t even block for a return…except in the back..The team has talent, but the coaching is laughable..How many times AGAIN yesterday did we watch a defense totally confused???..I’ll tell you..all damn day..There ought to be a law against inept coaches being allowed stay in practice..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Draft picks
another poster brought this to our attention- Rolle Webster Ross Prince all 1st rounders!
Webby is not a first rounder
He is a 2nd rounder….KP is a 1st rounder too.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
playin' like a 1st rounder too.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, him and Webby are not the issue.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I agree with that
There is more than enough talent on the field, sure there are weak spots but most teams have that.
We are seeing confusion and honestly a lack of effort by many.
Even if we have a team of dummies, it is up to the coaching staff to implement a game plan they can understand.
I see Manningham and Dodge as perfect examples of this, when your full time job is run routes and a catch a ball, or kick punts, you should be able to figure it out, unless the coaching staff is making it overly confusing and changing things every other week.
Yeah exactly..and let me say one thing about Dodge..
Instead of just letting the kid kick..they were filling him up with crap trying to make him more directional..the coaches ruined him..Here’s how I would have handled him..“Go kick the fucking ball the way you know how”..The directional crap?..He’d of figured it out, just slowly..If you got a guy that can punt a ball 70 yards, I don’t give a shit where it lands..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I would have put Dodge on the practice squad his first year and let him learn his craft
Clearly the kid had a ton of potential, but TC just threw him to the wolves, and the kid crashed and burned.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
do people actually keep punters on PS?
it might be a waste of a spot, at least that’s what the coaches probably think.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Not wasted if the player is on your roster the next season
We always have guys on there that don’t stand a chance at making the roster anyway, why not have a punter with a great leg who needs practice to be NFL ready.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
if it's that serious, he's still floating around
so they could get him on now. no one is clamoring for that however, because Weatherford’s doing a fine job, so i think stashing an average punter is a bit of a stretch.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
I agree we HAVE the talent, before we let go Richie and Shaun we still had a good core
of the SB team! Even when Boss and Smith were gone, we STILL had the talent to compete with any NFL team! We all know about the injuries but come on. I’m starting to think it is the coaching as well. TC is a good coach, but maybe time for a change?
by oldschoolblue64 on Dec 19, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Bobbi their talent is overrated
while I agree they are not St. Louis, we have mediorce safteies, one good CB, not very good LBs. . . very very overrated D-Line. A bad o-line, ok RBs talented and ocacianllly great WRs and a very good QB. I mean I agree some new coaches might do some things differently but the bottom line is our front seven on D is average and our O-line is terrible. You win the game in the trenches and we just can’t do that. the 86 and 90 teams had front sevens and O-lines that would put this version to shame the only talent upgrades we have compared to those teams are our WRs and maybe QB thats it. Oh and C-Web is better than toast but not not better than Mark Collins.
Let's go EAGLES, your the only team that deserves to be in the Playoffs
Might get killed for feeling this way, but Idc I know we don’t deserve it nor do the cowboys
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 10:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
let's go eagles next week!
then after that, screw em!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
acutally root for the Cowboys next week
Boys win elimnates the Eagles, we just got to win out from here to make the playoffs. However after watching the disaster yesterday I am left wondering if we will win another game
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
At least they play with consistent guts and heart..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
In their wins
what did they do in all of their losses?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Haha!!..they sucked...
Another piss-poor coached team..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Lose fourth quarter leads
Theyve never gotten blown out when Vick was playing only VY against NE and Seattle. Theyve been pretty consistent jus not in the 4th quarter. We haven’t been consistent in any facet all season except for Eli slinging it
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So why aren't they called chokers?
Why do people say they play with consistent guts and heart? The Giants have only been blown out of one game (2 if you count this one) all year and have had chances in the 4th quarter to win 4 or 5 more.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
so why can't we say that they are tardy and unprepared for the season
instead of “finishers”?
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yes most (if not all) of their losses have occured in the 4th quarter
So there must be a different definition of “finish” that I am not aware of
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Beacuase this is the fourth straight year and
5 out of the last 6 years in which the Giants have lost awful games at awful times down the streatch and have progressively gotten worse as the season wore on.
So why should the Giants
want the guts and the heart of a team with more losses and that tends to fold in the 4th quarter of games?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Sick of this
Coughlin may be known as a disciplinarian coach, but the inconsistent effort and lack of discipline this team has shown for the past few years speak to this: he needs to go.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
Not to kick TC while he is down,
But it just seems like he has taken this team as far has he could. They just come out flat in to many big games down the stretch and that is coaching
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
The funny thing about your comment is..
TC disciplined Bradshaw for an entire half and they still went on to beat Dallas..Yesterday he was on the field the whole game and we lose to the lowly Redskins…Somebody explain that to me..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm not against discipline at all
but it seems like Coughlin’s methods can’t seem to inspire this team to perform. Even when we won the Cowboys game, our defense looked awful (except for JPP). Eli and JPP singlehandedly won that game for us.
"It's not a lie, if you believe it" - George Costanza
"Silence is only golden when you can't think of a good answer" - Muhammad Ali
True..but it boggles my mind..We get a key guy back for the full game and lose..
But this was a Cluster Bomb we watched on offense and defense…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
How about disciplining Rolle for running his mouth
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sick of that rambling bullshit artist..
Like I said earlier I’m not going to read what these fools have to say after the game..I’ve read enough of the same crap every week prior..But he needs to just shut the hell up..I ask you..when was the last good game that idiot had?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I feel bad for JPP
he’s out there giving it his all every week and what type of help from his team does he get? none
I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee fan.
by NJsandman on Dec 19, 2011 11:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He's going
Just not thru fan votes
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agree he'll get in from the coaches and press votes..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Chucky and Spags and lets get it going in the right direction....
End this ridiculousness please…..
Both will be available….. Lets give Rex something to worry about.
Nope
That was Monte Kiffin
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Sweet God no
Didnt anybody pay attention to how completely devoid of talent he left Tampa Bay? And players HATED him over there. Literally anybody but him please.
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well he was tasked with picking the talent over there
He wouldnt be in that role here.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Gruden ain't leaving the booth
And he hasn’t coached in age, I’d rather have a younger guy.
It’s already a wrap… might as well not show up tomorrow.
Football - It's Beyond an Addiction, It's a Way of Life.
by Eagladelphia on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
SEPT 25 - Giants 29 - Eagles 16
Would he want to come to a place
where he doesn’t have some control over personnel?
Victor Cruz is the 2011 Ahmad Bradshaw. He giveth, and he taketh away.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 19, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
How many more 2nd half collaspes
Do we have to endure before this nightmare is over. I am sorry but this staff has got to go. Yes I want to make the playoffs but I don’t think we will. I mean the last time we one a do or die game was 07 thats 3 years ago. I have no faith this team can win a must win game.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
This
2008 – We need Gilbride to make adjustments because teams throw an 8 man front at us after Plax goes down. What happens Gilbride makes no adjustments we loose in the first round to the Eagles. TC does nothing
2009 – Sheridan inherits a top notch Defense only he decides that he is going to dismantle the schemes we play and put he own stamp on the D, and ends up destroying the Defense’s identity. Again TC let’s him dismantle schemes we all know work and our D turns into a historically bad D.
2010 – Our ST are so bad they are constantly hurting us, yet TC does nothing about it does not even fire Quinn.
2011 – Our new D Coordinator decides that soft coverage is the way to go, and despite the fact that our D get’s killed week after week, TC let’s the DC keep these soft schemes that fool nobody.
TC is willing to go down with the ship, it’s time to let him. He does not hold his coaching staff accountable unless they are so bad either they go or his job is on th line.
Time for us to move on.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Well we will have to have the final punch in the nuts after the last 3 years
which will happen this weekend as our playoff hopes get dashed by the Jets, how effing humiliating is this Saturday going to be watching Rex declae New York a Jet town and PLaxico burning our sorry ass secondary all day
Then the final blow will be we win vs Dallas finish 8-8 but Philly and Dallas do as well and the effing Eagles come all the way back and make the playoffs. Once again we would have our shot to eliminate them and we never put them away. The past 3 years have been humiliating enough why not add another historical debacle for year 4.
Two clear conclusions coming out of yesterday's match
1. This is not a very good team; despite the ocassional heroics (eg, Patriots at Foxboro), it is a team incapable of playing consistently at a high level – always playing up/down to the level of the competition. And 2011 is not an aberration: inconsistency has been a trademark of this team for some time. Many fans here seem to be fixated with injuries, poor officiating and bad luck – that’s just delusional: you could find counter-examples for each of those factors in this season alone. Facts tell us that we are a slightly above-average team: our peers are the Jets, Chargers, Bears, Titans, Cowboys – not the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Packers, Saints. The fact that the trend is not showing any improvement from one season to the next should be an important indication of the case for change.
2. Although yesterday was a horrific performance, it had no dramatic playoffs implications for the Giants: we knew that the Giants could win 2 out of 3 and win the East as long as they beat the Cowboys on their final game; that’s still true. We had some couchon, and we used it yesterday. You could argue that the only thing that changed was that with the Eagles winning, now the Giants need to win out – if they beat the Cowboys but lose to the Jets and the Eagles win out, then Philly wins the East. But frankly, that’s a marginal change: would anyone really expect to win the East by going 8-8? So let’s hope this team manages to put two good performances back-to-back – and anything can happen after that.
yup
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle
if we’re paying him for performance on the field, he’s GROSSLY overpaid….if we’re paying him for his MOUTH, he’s underpaid. Bottom line Antrell….SHUT UP
he's under contract from WFAN.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
can't deny that.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
you're right.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
He's not under contract to be dumb
or maybe he is
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I blame the Offense
How many 3 and outs did we have? Only like 2 sustained drives. We need to kill more clock on O to give the D a break. They only put up 23 points in 35 minutes. Our O should have easily out scored them and it would have made our D better cause they would have been on the field less and the skins would have had less possessions.
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither is Marine Corps Policy.
by Big Blue in tx on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions
Def blame the offense
When your D gets Two turnovers in the first quarter and your O does nothing with it, just not a winning formula, can even sustain a drive and get a FG??? Smfh it’s all on the O! They got 3 pts all game, that last TD doesn’t count! All the O’s fault this game around. The D was fucking tired bc the o did nothing which led to the redskins winnin TOP and being able to run or pass
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The D played better in the 2nd half,
But they kept having to be out there on the field. No support from the offense. That being said, Eli was running for his life. I do wonder what we’d be saying if there weren’t so many drops by receivers.
How long is Antrel signed with us for?
Does anyone know?
this is his 2nd season of a 5 year deal
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
5 year contract
This is a guy who said he wanted to play some Wildcat QB when he was signed. Not the sign of a very intelligent player.
I'm sick of this?
While I agree he should shut up, how is him wanting to play wild cat indicative of his intelligence in any way? How about we take into the fact that he came into the league as CB and learned the safety position in less than a year? Or that he’s come to the giants to play safety and has had to learn how to play SS, LB, and Slot CB in 2 years? But you’re right he’s stupid and terrible at football. Maybe if he actually played safety it would be helpful. This is another example of the coaching staff holding players back.
I also apologize if I sound like a dick
but I’m sick of hearing some of this crap. The guy was the most coveted free agent in football that off season. It’s not like he just lost his abilities while signing a piece of paper. He is in no way being used in a way that he was intended for when we offered him that money. It’s not his fault he signed a 5 year deal to play safety and our brilliant coaching staff decides to play him everywhere else. Maybe we should try him a LT next
I agree.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I am not disagreeing
I think he has talent, a first round pick form the U will have a good amount of talent. He is missing other atributes of a good player.
I'd call him very inconsistent and not a good cover safety. That's ok though, you don't have to be great in coverage to play safety.
Just know how to tackle, how to help in coverage, and be good in run support.
Rolle is good in all these facets approximately half the time….aka inconsistent.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well he hasnt been at a consistent position so inconsistency is to be expected.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
perhaps, though I'd be remiss if I said he did his job properly all the time though.
He wasn’t good yesterday and has missed tackles before, and has had communication issues. Nobody like ’Trel more than I do, Blue, but even I have to admit that he needs to work on his game a bit, though I completely agree that scheme has hamstrung him for the better part of this year.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with that
His game has taken a step back for sure….and there is no excuse for the shoe string tackling on WR’s…… but i do think thats due to the 8 lbs of muscle he had to drop to play slot after gaining 12+ the year before in order to play in the box.
I think his body is failing him miserably……they need to leave him deep and at the weight he desires. enough is enough, its not his fault we are losing CB’s left and right.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
no doubt.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
no need to apologize
I agree with you. I never said he was not a talented player. Fewell has taken every bit of talent these players have and wasted it.
I got you...
I mentioned below too, i generally love this website. I find almost everyone entertaining, and I love the personalities. I feel like sometimes I just get angry after we lose because alot of people just go nuts about some things. Sometimes my ire is directed at just 1 person haha.
dude he's Gabril WIlson
he’s was a highly touted safted after the 07 season and OAK overpaid for him look how that turned out. While you’re right in that he has not played the proper position which has made him look like garbage he’s still a very mediorce saftey just not as bad of a saftey as a he is a slot corner.
Petreus
Got owned this week. The one play where he got pancaked was embarrassing. It might be time to invest a couple of high picks in a center and LT and figure out who to put a guard, Bass, Boothe or Petreus.
It could be worse. I could be a Jets fan.
Naw....just growing pains, had to happen and would happen to high picks as well
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
When you are blocking a 300+lb DT and you trip
you are going to be pancaked. One play doesn’t define a players career and to be honest, Petrus has been a terrific surprise to this point overall.
Mitch Petrus will be our LG of the future, I feel confident in that.
we need a couple more guys like him...
he will be a real nice player, if he already hasn’t been…which I doubt…
regardless what that ref says is holding on him from the last game
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
Second comment of the season here but....
Relax. What did you really expect here guys. The fact that the Giants have a chance at a playoff spot is pretty great this year. Let me tell you why you need to keep perspecitve.
1. They have played without a MLB all year long. No one really talks about this, which I can’t figure out for the life of me, but losing Goff cost us probably 10 positions in defensive ranking alone. That’s right. This was a spot with no depth and we lost the guy who played the run very well last year and called the plays. We are soft up the middle and frankly have poor LB play because we don’t have Goff.
2. Now compound that with taking out Terrell Thomas, arguably our best corner, and replace him with Aaron Ross (bust) and that’s another 5 slots on the defense. Throwing Prince under the bus is crazy. What we are asking him to do right now is not setting that kid up for success. However, when you rely on Ross (BUST) you get desperate.
3. Compounding the fact is that Tuck is obviously a shadow of his former self. The guys hasn’t been effective for two years due to injury. One has to wonder if we will ever see the old Tuck at this point he is so banged up. We have lost Osi for four games, etc.
Everyone wants to throw Fewell under the bus and okay, if you need to vent, so be it. The fact is that most teams could not sustain hits that the G-Men have taken above , simple as that.
The offense has played amazing. Yes, yesterday was a difficult day but consider the hits that this group has taken on the offensive line its pretty incredible. All hail Eli. If he had any D this year he would be a serious MVP candidate. Oh, ya and this JPP kid looks like a keeper.
I want more JPP and I want it now!
#3
SHHH- you canot say things like this- it is thinking too much!
Now shut up about TUCK, he is just fine as you can see.
This is true
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
#1
Um, why does everyone make Goff out to be Urlacher or Ray Lewis? I still think the verdict is out on him. He had a solid year last year, but just that, solid. I think having Boley out multiple games this year hurt more than Goff for the season. Oh, and relying on a crop of rookie LBs for contribution. Sorry, do not agree with your #1. More going on than just Goff. Agree with your #2 though. I think T2 hurt the team MORE than Goff.
No one makes him out to be Ray Lewis or Goff
But if you cant see his leadership improtance and intelligence you my friend are missing it….we dont even really have a MLB.
I think Goff was the biggest loss…he calls all the plays and audibles and all communications and whats been our achilles heel on defense?? COMMUNICATION.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
*or Urlacher
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Guess I am missing it then
I see where you are coming from with regards to communication, but outside of that, Goff is serviceable talent.
You just wait.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yes, for Goff to come back
JR is not going to draft a mike backer high, i dont see it….. he might not reach for one at all, you gotta think that Williams, Herz, Paysinger will all be better.
Not to mention the return of Goff and Sintim along with having Boley already and Kiwi…..Things are not so bad IMO…… an offseason will be greatly appreciated by those guys.
The only person taking Goffs Job IMO is London Fletcher if he doesnt resign with the skins and in that case Goff moves to SAM and they slide Kiwi to the line but thats alot of if’s.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I would aim to get Fletcher from the Skins as a FA
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, who wouldnt
That would be the only person i want as a Mike over Goff to be honest in this next year.
I think the teaching Fletcher would bring would be awesome for all the backers. If not him im totally fine with Goff as the Mike.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
serviceable to solid is exactly what we need
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
Honestly….serviceable to solid plus super smart and instinctive….. i dont see why you wouldnt want Goff.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Even if you think Goff is solid
I still think he hurts more that TT. Here’s why. Look at the games last year, I agree he was solid. Now look at the games this year. The difference between Goff’s play and the MLB we have this year is huge. Going from solid to zilch is a huge drop off. Remember this is the QB of the D. The Giants have been run all over this year. I’m not saying he’s Ray Lewis but compared to Chase Blackburn….well he is!
I want more JPP and I want it now!
Goff's IQ > Giant's Secondary
Goff was a B LB in skills but he was a becoming a rock as a leader on the D.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Sure was, ill buy stock in
JPP…GOFF…LINVAL…KP….SASH.. & TT as tyhe future of this unit.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
KIWI
KIWI back at a pass rush position would have to be in there.
by BLUEYOU on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
He’s almost 30 years old though, i was thinking a little younger
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Yeah I miss Terrell Thomas like a motherfucker right now
You jus can’t make up his production
by AHoustonGiant on Dec 19, 2011 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah 100 tackles and 5 picks would help right about now.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Covering someone would help right about now
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
screwed up
DO you think Fewell would screw him up too?
I lean toward he would have regressed with Fewell this season
Fewell deserves to be tied to train tracks..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Dude we beat the Patriots and went toe to toe with the Packers with all these injuries
Expecting them to show up and beat a sorry Redskin’s team who’s QB is a a backup at best is not to much to expect. Problem is effort not talent!!!
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Damn right.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Carl Banks was killing Perry Fewell on WFAN
He was trying very hard to be respectful but he couldn’t sugarcoat it. It’s about time someone in the media called Fewell out.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Good for him..He must be sick of it all himself just like we are..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I'm not surprised at the Prince comments
Many of the people who post in the game threads are some of the most irrational and ignorant fans you’ll find anywhere. The ridiculous overreactions make it virtually impossible for any sane person to follow the game here.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Man aint that the truth
You know how many times i write rebuttles to the nonsense then just say never mind and cancel it?? SMH
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Prince will be fine..he just isn't ready yet..he had a really bad day and got benched..
Which was the right decision..Now he’ll have some films to study to learn from..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I agree
The guys that have been out there all year in that secondary don’t know WTF they’re supposed to be doing and people are killing Prince for being confused. The kid had 1-1/2 practices in camp and has played sparingly in what..3-4 games now?
Exactly right..He's a talented kid..this game will only help him get better..
He’ll be a good one..I don’t know why folks judge a player based on what little time they’ve been affroded to play initially..I think he’ll be just fine..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Dec 19, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I had to leave last night.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I never join game threads, it's just too much of this
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Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me
by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST
Oh I quit the game threads a long tiime ago. The postgame reaction threads. I should probably quit those too
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yea man mee too
I learned my lesson, i almost broke my computer messin with these fair weather fans who just say some of the dumbest things.
Cant tell the difference between bad plays and bad play……. just waiting to jump on someone, trade cut or fire everybody….its too much.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
lol
I respect differing opinions, but will only respect it if one can back it up with rationale. And a postgame thread is the worst possible place to look for rationale for anything.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
That is the truth
You can disagree with me all day but damn be slightly rational about it.
Oh yea….Trade Eli, he sucks.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Hahaha!!.."Honey did you get me beer!!"
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Coaching.
You see what harbaugh did with same people or wade with the houston D or even crennell in one week. We need a change!!!!!!
While I agree that games like yesterday's get people fired
Why do the players bear no responsibility?
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
I have no idea
They should take it all…..play calls were fine, Tackling, and catching are not on the coaches. cant be but they take the blamce because its the nature of the biz.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Because they are listening and trying to do what they are asked by inept coaches..
You take a kid like JPP..He just goes out there and plays football..My defensive game plan would be just that..Go out there and play football and have fun..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
So howcome you dont Kudo Fewell for his development??
But we Wet willie him for all others mishaps……its just BS if you ask me, JPP aint doing nothing the others cant do but its player mindstate thats hampering us.
Webby plays awesome, so does KP but how come Fewell only gets blamed for bad play from players, why does he not get Kudos for the good play of some of his players, same thing with Gilbride.
At somepoint the person in the uniform has to be blamed. Coaches deserve it too but damn its getting to onesided around here.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Kudo Fewell..your kidding, right?..He has ruined our defense..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Definitely agree here
Everything that doesn’t work is wrong. Every mistake is the coaches’ play calling or scheme. Everything that works is only a great play by that player.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Honestly Houston had no secondary last year
The additions of Harris and John Jo….were huuuuge
It allows Wade to play the pressure scheme so to say its the same squad is not true really.
Harbaugh?? now that is impressive but maybe its the fact that Singletary was just way in over his head.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
chicken or egg
Well does the pressure up front take pressure off the secondary or vice versa?
Good football teams are built from the line out.
Plus next season TT will be like a free agent signing and Prince will have a full off season to learn.
Don't fall into that Harbaugh trap..Singletary left alot of good players for him to coach..
Same with Gruden..they inherit talent and reap the rewards of what the previous coaches left for them..and then they fizzle like bacon fat in a frying pan..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Enough!!
When’s the draft? I need something to be excited about. And Prince sucks until proven otherwise.
No hes good until proven otherwise.
And what is the draft gonna do for you?? we got so many good players coming back off injury we probably dont even need a draft. we need players to make up their minds, simple as that.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
I wouldn't get too excited about the draft.
No matter who we draft, if they miss a block or a tackle in their 3rd game ever, he apparently sucks, so there’s no point.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yea especially with no offseason, and injured foot and learning on the fly
Prince is a bum. Man judging draft picks of a few plays is easy, i could be the best internet GM ever.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
right...
Don’t get me wrong though…I’m pissed off about the effort yesterday but we’ve had discussions all year about how Prince wasn’t going to show up late in the season and save the day. The kid had a bad day but he will be a good player. All year I heard the “Once Prince gets in there…” talk and it’s laughable that now people want to label him as a shitty player.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
No shite give the kid a full season before you label him
SHMS some people make me look sane.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Exactly Patrick Peterson had a few bad days and Jimmy Smith got taught a valuable lesson last night as well
Now are you gonna tell me all 3 of them are busts??
And Price just started, people piss me off.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
agreed, Prince will be fine
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
yeah. Everybody admits that he had a bad game yesterday.
So did Hakeem Nicks. And to an extent, Eli did as well. Same with Antrel Rolle and Justin Tuck. All those guys had bad games, but nobody calls them bad players.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
don't forget that fact that hes trying to learn a complicated and worthless zone scheme
after playing man coverage in college. totally his fault, what a bust!
The skins line easily moved the the D line either up or out of the way all day
this pretty much sums up the season really. Yes, the secondary is very slow too. No gaps were filled and huge spaces set up the play action. This defense is a confused and dispirited bunch! And when the offense could not connect, i.e. Nicks drop… game over!
I can't understand why this team have trouble beating teams that they are supposed to beat.
They beat a very good Pats team, stood toe to toe with a great undefeated Packers team, but would struggle with Teaneck High school team. What is it that makes them lose interest and and become unmotivated to kick ass with lesser teams. Just can’t understand this.
your assesment
cannot disagree with the assesment.
the running game has been much improved over the last 3 or 4 weeks even yesterday very few attempts but almost no negative plays and good per attemp avg. why so few attempts???
sounds like Osi out this week also, so the guy played 8 games this year, his tenure in NY is over, hope he likes his new team next year…….
Rolle is going to make $6.75 mil next year, and $7 mil in 2013 and 2014. He might be a goner this offseason.
whole sale changes
may include rolle going. i believe it also means jacobs and manningham gone as well.
by section_112 on Dec 19, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Jacobs pretty much gone, I think, based on his contract
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
well you could make same
argument for antrell i suppose
by section_112 on Dec 19, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, didn't know Rolle's details 'til now
Jacobs has a big bonus due. With injuries and contracts could be a lot of changes next year.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
Jacobs Rolle, Manningham, bye bye see you later
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I wish!
I think I would have preferred Seubert with 2 broken legs being in there instead of Diehl.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Those two are done for sure.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
sad part is, I'm not sure we have their replacements yet
Diehl, we have his replacement, but what about Mckenzie?? we would have to get them still…and another 1 year of learning curve for the system if KG and TC stays around
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
Rolle stays...HAM does too unless he wants to get filthy rich.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Agree about Ham
JR will offer what he thinks he is worth, what he has cap room for, what won’t mess up the whole salary structure and piss off other guys. Ham will either take it or go somewhere else.
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
restructure rolle's contract
keep him ina eyar without fewell and we’ll see BIG changes
by The Cole Train on Dec 19, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
leave him at deep safety and let him earn it
If not, if we are gonna continue to use him as a bandaid for every other position we need filled then it aint fair to him or the team but if you let him play where he played in AZ at the weight he is comfortable then i say keep him.
His tackling has become suspect though but i think its because hes not confident in his strength since they made him drop 8-10lbs of muscle in order to play nickle. i think his mind has gotten the best of him in that regard.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Good question. I’m not even sure if the cap hit rules are even the same anymore under the new CBA. Probably needs a little more research before I go throwing crap against the wall.
For the lack of anything better to do during the lockout, I tried my hand at capology LOL
And I’m pretty sure the guaranteed part of the salary is spread out over the length of the contract as a cap hit.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Great a multi-millionaire microphone..Somebody please shoot me..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
BANG!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Hahaha!!..Thanks..It's only a flesh wound!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
New head coach: Jeff Fisher, formerly of Tenn. Titans
New OC: Norv Turner
New DC: Carl Banks. If he doesn’t want to be a coach, Spags.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions
No thanks to Fisher, he is not a good HC
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
He seemed to make the playoffs consistently
Why do you say he is not a good HC?
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
6 playoff apearences in 16 seasons .542 winning Pct
When you step away from the Media love fest of the guy and look at his recored Meh…. I would look long and hard before I hired him.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Pepper
has plenty but its a wonder why he is not intervied for DC positions.
I remember we were interested in Pepper
And I would be all for that, but it would mean a switch to 3-4 defense.
hahaha
do not get me restarted on that. I would love it for the record.
I would not mind it...
but, I would hate to shift the mentality with Eli in his prime. I mean, we have some pieces for a 3-4, but these guys have a hard enough time playing a 4-3.
worse?
How can it be worse then the D Eli had to contend with this seaosn?
i say bite the bullet and bring in a hard nosed 3-4 DC.
See...
I would love to have Spags back as the DC. I think he got in over his head with the HC thing in St. Louis. Bring him in, a lot of the guys he coached are still here and respect him. Hire a HC, but make Spags the HC in waiting. I like that plan more, but you will not see me here complaining of a switch to a 3-4.
Skins
That defense that beat the Giants yesterday switched from 4-3 to 3-4 and has improved significantly. Texans too.
Oh, I agree with you
See my above post though. I think that there is just one better alternative that has to do with familiarity.
yes
Spags would bring that familiarity factor.
I would not be opposed to him. Otherwise I want all three changed- Coach Scheme and as many players as possible.
we don't have 3 good LBz , let alone 4
Don’t see a switch happening. If we did switch to 3-4, expect a year of growing pains and getting the right personnel
LBers
JPP and KIWI become 3-4 Lbers.
How could the growing pains be worse then the Pains this season’s defense has perpetuated on this team? And have the Redskins or Texans Ds had growing pains?
We don't have a good nose tackle..and JPP and Kiwi can't play LB
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
JPP probably could learn to play anywhere but you’re right.
Kiwi is average as a LB, much better pass rusher at DE.
We have no NT although, I bet Linval would be able to play nose. Canty has been a 3-4 DT with Dallas. The Texans already had good LBz, Washington is in year 2 with Haslet.
Fair points
but KIWI is average as a 4-3 Lber, he is more suited to pass rush from the edge as a 3-4 OLB does.
NT is Linval, The Texans do not have a true NT either and is Cofield a true NT?
All in all the 3-4 allows for alot more confusion in the pass rush.
Kiwi could be just as effective as Von Miller in Denver.
They run a 4-3, but Miller is just utilized as a 3-4 OLB standing up with minimal coverage responsibility. The result? 10.5 sacks.
If we played more man-coverage, we could probably do that….but alas.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
it's kiwi who has been royally screwed
by the DE experiment. and by extension, Osi hanging around. that guy would be top tier DE on any team and they fcked him up so bad.
would LOVE fox as DC. He completely lost his team in Carolina though
they mutinied completely and lost all control. He’s only doing so good because (Praise Tebus), Tebow is there to get all rallying and emotional and shizz.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
oh I know...just stating that he'd be a great DC to have.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
He was a great DC for us
Always remember him yelling and getting excited on the sideline after big play on D. He lost the team because he was a lame duck and everyone knew he was gone after the season. Carolina always had a competitive D. Look at the turnaround in Denver’s D.
that's true. But he couldn't handle personalities like Steve Smith
and never made appropriate adjustments on offense. I’d love to take him as a DC, but not sold on him as HC.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
no i don't want him a HC either
I think he’s a great DC. Kinda like a lot of decent DC’s around the league that are better coordinators than HC’s.
Jim Haslett, Dom Capers, Wade Phillips are a few.
yup yup
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
all for that
Kiwi is not used to his stregnths right now. Neither are; well the other 10 guys.
I'm on board with the FireFewell movement.
Also on board with the “PleaseretireTombecauseurstillawesomebutitstimetogo” movement.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
No need to switch to a 3-4
4-3’s work just as good…….mentality mentality mentality and oh yeah, nothing looks worst than a bad 3-4…jeeeeez
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
4-3s
What evidence do you have that say 4-3’s work just as well.
I see the more successful defenses run a 3-4 or at least a hybrid that allows for and aggressive and confusing (to the O line and QB) pass rush.
Bengals......Jags...
Washington fielded a top 5 defense a few years in a row right before they switched to a 3-4
The Bears….The Vikes before this year. The Ravens won the bowl with a 4-3, so did the Bucs and so did we…. i can go on!!
And please dont act like there are no bad 3-4’s
You can cause confusion with any scheme if you really want to.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Next time we get a DC that says 'Wrinkles'
I’m running for the BLIMP!
unless it’s Spags :)
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ok
I knew about the Bears and VIkings. I know there are bad 3-4s and good 4-3s I would like to see if there is any indication over the last 10 or so seasons that one is signicantly more successful.
The thing is 4-3's are more successful as a whole probably
But the successful 3-4’s just stand out so much more…… like Ravens and Steelers but thats more based on the personalities that play in those particular schemes.
And it seems like coaches only become legendary for 3-4’s its weird.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Lber
I bet its because Linebacker is a more glamourous position. And with the 3-4 they are the ones getting the big sacks.
Yea but when you gather the top "pass rushers" in the league yearly
Most of them are from 4-3’s…. when you ask who are the best off top, you would say Ware, Allen, Peppers….well two of those are 43 guys then you say well whose next?
Freeney, Mathis, Osi, Tuck, Cole, Hali, Williams, Harrison, Woodley,. I would say there are more better pass rushing ends than LB’z but your right.
LB is more glamourous even though in a 34 they are just standing ends.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
out of those
4-3 teams I wonder how many use the cover 2 zone successful.
ok, so its about a 60/40 split give or take
sounds about right.
nobody in the NFC South likes the 3-4 haha
and only the Texans like the 3-4 in the AFC South but they were 4-3 last year as well lol.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
You did count the pats as a 4-3 right?
Denver too…. and though ive been argued down about the Texans, they are not technically a 3-4 but ill let it go, they are very similar to the Broncos but i wont fight it anymore lol.
Also how many of those 3-4’s just trasitioned or vice versa
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
No
Denver 4-3 and Pats 3-4.
I understand some teams like Pats are running 4-3 sometimes, but you can argue a couple of teams like that. How about the Giants with our brilliant 3-2-6 scheme at times?
Who else switched this year besides the 2 you mentioned?
Was Arizona 4-3 last year?
Nah Pats have switched completely to a 4-3
I’m definitely sure on that one.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
its ambigbuous
They still use Wilfork in 3-4 defenses quite a bit.
It was very stupid of them to get Haynesworth.
seems more effective
Maybe the 3-4 seems moere effective because teams see it less and gameplan for it less and thus practice for it less?
I want Pepper Johnson for DC
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Interviews
why does he not get interviews though?
Patriots D is pretty bad too, not sure he is the way to go either
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's not their DC..up there..He deserves a shot..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
there is no player that needs to leave more than Rolle
Diehl might be worse at his position, but at least you never hear from him. Rolle is loud, disruptive and incompetent. A dangerous combination.
by long time listener on Dec 19, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions
while we are talking about new coaches
it would be better if we didnt make playoffs.. so we could get down to the interviewing process right away. i am not for that
best candidates
The best candidates will be assistants who have games to plan for during the playoffs,
great...now we get the fortune of having Rex Grossman talk trash
thanks to Antrel Rolle’s big mouth, and subsequent horrible performance.
Fire Fewell
I read that Rex's 3 best games of his career were against the Giants
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Rex Grossman earned the opportunity to talk smack..
Our guys made him a legit QB for a game..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Oh boy yeah...your right
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
spags isnt making the playoffs
he to me is the prize
I don't konw why STL hasn't ended his misery
We could hire him as a consultant.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
its still up in the air
where his true loyalty lies
by section_112 on Dec 19, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
ATEOTD = At the end of the day = Antrel Rolle
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
TC's challenge
You forgot to mention Coughlin and yet another one of his baseless challenges. This made no sense at the time and even Troy called him out on it. They certainly could have used those 35 or seconds to get TD rather than FG. I really cannot understand why coaches throw away TO’s so much.
Santana Moss (32 y/o) and Donte Stallworth (31 y/o) made Antrele (30 y/o) look old. The Giant vets (Webster, Tuck, Osi, Eli, Jacobs) need to call this dude out. How many more years are the NYG stuck with this clown?
let's lose antrel and manningham in the off season
And Diehl.
by scarlet knight on Dec 19, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions
TheJRobJeff Roberts
Rolle said there were ‘reasons’ he could not wrap up Darrel Young on his 6-yd TD run in the 2nd Q. But he won’t make excuses, he says. #nyg
Fire Fewell
Bottom line, Perry needs to go.
Last year they suck but I gave him a chance being it was his first year. Now that he is in his second year and the season is almost over, I got sick of watching this defense having no answer to stop any QB. Not sure what Fewell is coaching but its either the guys are not buying into it or its straight rocket science that they can’t understand because almost every snap they are running around confused and looking to the sideline.
Is Osi not playing out of protest?
The guy has been out for a while.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
Has to be considered
He wanted to hold out originally. But teammates talked him into it. Now he can say “see look how bad you are without me!”
I say get him out of here.
correction
Teammates talked him into playing
The score would have been far worse with him in there..JPP is taking his job away..
We don’t need him
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think Washington ran at JPP so they can tire him out
He wasn’t the same later in the game.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
I thought he played hard for a full 60 minutes..They didn't run at him..
They’d have had to be nuts they were heading at Tuck for most of the game..You’d have to be a fool to direct your offense at JPP.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I heard few saying yesterday
Giants are still good if they win out which I dont think so…..we need Dallas to lose.
BTW I’m dissapointed not because they lost yesterday but we are below Seahawks in the playoff picture.
Hard to believe but true
If we win out the Cowboys loose the playoff spot due to us holding a tie breaker over them. But the real question is will this team even show up for the next two games?
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sadly...I would say no.
During yesterday’s game we witnessed the beginning of the annual two games lost by a total of 80 points. The Jets will school them and then we may get to see Dallas hang 40 on us.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
We win the division with two more wins.
Wild card is pretty much out of the picture.
Now in section 133.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Dec 19, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dallas doesn't need to lose to Philly
If the Giants win their next two games, they win the division.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
That's our final hope...
Two brutal wars in a row…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Sound familiar???
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
MG lauded Rolle last week for his ability to take responsibility
I called BS immediately and MG said I was wrong
just listen to this man pass the buck question after question and show me where HE takes responsibility for anything?
Fire Fewell
He does all the time
He says when he messes up but he also says when others do as well, he’s pretty fair. Just very vocal.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Rolle just said on WFAN
that he’s extremely frustrated that he’s not doing what he was brought here to do, which is to be a ball hawk safety. He’s alluding to the fact that Fewell has him playing in the box and that’s not Rolle’s game.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
he's been sour about it for over a year
hence his pro bowl comments last year
BUT he says it doesn’t matter.
but when they Loss clearly it matters. and when he plays like ass it’s Fewell’s fault.
Fire Fewell
Rolle should just shut up and play
Skip Joe and Evan this week, and buckle down and think about the Jet’s.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, just shut up and play...
a position you shouldn’t be playing but for the stupidity of the coaching staff. I like this site a lot, and I have no qualms with anyone on here, no matter their personality. However, I get sick of hearing how we should just toss this player out on their ass, or how a 5th rnd draft pick is bust because he didn’t blow up in his rookie season.
Which one is Rolle?

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
after yesterday's game, I would say that's about right :)
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
Nice!
Especially with the one backing out at the last second…
Anyone notice that JPP blitzed once yesterday? It actually worked and forced a punt. Wonder if we could start a trend to do that 2-3 times a game…
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Nah that's a video of my kids..they always want something...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
remember the time when Rolle said
he wished QBs would throw at him?
Yeah, Rex Grossman remembers too….
Fire Fewell
Ha
Stupid Rolle.
Let’s all try to come up with other “Rolles” that would be better out there.
I’ll start…Tootsie Roll. I think that a Tootsie Roll could tackle better than our Rolle.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
me, too...now I want one!
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Jelly Roll

"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Dec 19, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One of these could jam the line against the run
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Toilet Rolle
Bit part actor Rolle
Thank you for your order I’ll be right back with some Rolles
Man that Dez Bryant is on a Rolle
Japanese: “What an Assrolle” !!
Is that car a Rollesvoice?
Let’s Rolle the dice, their passing
Rush LimbRolle
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
He DID refer to the missed tackles and took responsibility for that. He said he needs to get better....so he IS taking
responsiblity.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
TheJRobJeff Roberts
Rolle said there were ‘reasons’ he could not wrap up Darrel Young on his 6-yd TD run in the 2nd Q. But he won’t make excuses, he says. #nyg
ebenezersamuelEbenezer Samuel
Rolle: “Personally, I’m extremely frustrated being that I’m not able to do what I’m able to do which is go get the ball. And that’s that.”
Fire Fewell
Of course he spews BS as well, but he literally said
he needs to get better. I heard it with my own two ears.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
and one of my personal favs from last year:
after the Megatron TD vs. Detroit
“It wasn’t a bad angle,” Rolle said. "I should have definitely stayed on top of him, being it was a two-man coverage. I thought Terrell Thomas was going to make that play.
Fire Fewell
of course the cowboys need to lose
but they play the giants last game of the season ..
i keep jacobs if used correctly he can be a very effective 2nd back.. bradshaw cannot carry the load for 16 weeks he will break down.
rolle is overrated and overpaid, he is a 4th linebacker and a bad 4th linebacker… diehl, mckenzie, baas(maybe), umenyiora, and probably manningham. Manningham is too stupid be screws his QB all the time. this will save them a ton of coin, they cango after some need areas; sign terrel thomas, move Kiwi back to DE, and move on.
carl banks who has never coach’d is not going to be the D coordinator you are high.
I wonder what Pat Traina will have to say this week
Defense is settling down……
I had a respect for her still do but that was a stupid comment.
Hahaha!..Dumbest thing I ever read..'Settled Down'..geezus makes my ass itch..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Boley
I thought Boley should get some love,he was flying around,the only player other than JPP who seemed to give a damn
I don't think anybody should get a Kudo
Others disagree with me but JPP deserved a Kiwille for letting the Fullback walk in the endzone when he had him in the back field, good fake or not, he should have made that tackle.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
You Are What You Are.
Never so true. Very disappointing, but still holding out hope. The idea of CLONING JPP was mind-blowing.
What was bad and the good
What was bad was the entire game. I almost was wishing for the return of Ray Handley. Almost.
As Ed noted, only JPP was really on the field. Eli was a close second. Three picks but nothing really terrible on his part. The rest of the team quit although one leg Tuck deserves a pass.
This team has quit once again and TC, TQ, KG and PF need to go. I can detail it all but does not matter, everybody knows it. Even if we make the playoffs, this team is soooo underachieving and spiritless, it is mind boggling. A bunch of millionaires sleep walking around, an embarrassment to themselves and to the fans.
Can someone, anyone tell me why with a few minutes left, we are down 3 scores and all the starters, injured or not, are still on the field? Why not give Jerrnigan, Scott and especially Barden some experience. Why is Barden not in the games more often? Give Eli a rest too, why put him in harms way. It was not possible to win but tight ass TC keeps the starters in. Just plain dumb coaching.
DD and Kmac need to go as well and I think they will be replaced. DD can no longer play and is earning too much to be a sub. So they both hold because they cannot play their position.
What is good? There is a decent chance that change will come. I hope that all four coaches are gone the day after the season ends. If not, be prepared for another painfully erratic season and more poor play.
You can blame the players all you want, they do deserve some very sharp criticism. But in the end, TC et. al. are responsible for the team motivation and schemes, both of which repeatedly fail.
An entirely new coaching staff, maybe some good FAs and picks together with the return of some critical injured players (Goff, TT, etc) will give us a chance for playoffs next year.
To every season there is a time and now is the time for change.
The End.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 19, 2011 12:27 PM EST reply actions
I love this..I'll help you with why the starters were still on the field..
It was because really there were no starters on the field from the start to the end..just a bunch of tackle dummies dressed in blue..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Brilliant as usual BB
There were a few dummies on the sidelines as well…if ya know wad I mean.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 19, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!! yes indeed there were..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Rolle
get rid of this arrogant jerk,send him to Buffalo or Cincy,I never thought he was that good in Arizona,terrible signing Jerry!!!!
FAs
If you want to get on Reese his weakness is FA signings.
Reese also takes a hit on his reluctance to go get some real NFL LB's
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
He overpays for needs that aren't elite talents
but scoffs at teams that do spend for elite talents
by The Cole Train on Dec 19, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
well we have spent big time FA dough
on guys that have not really been as high impact as we initially believed. Rolle, Canty, Baas.. we spend FA dollars. but just not as well as we should/could.
i suppose
yup he overpays for free agents
that aren’t the cream of the crop thats what I said
by The Cole Train on Dec 19, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
well most do
not sure there is a succesful FA signing this year that was a no brainer, cept maybe sproles
Sproles was in fact the only successful one...but ...
wait, is Marshall Lynch one too?
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
last good FA year we had was 2004
burress and mckenzie
We criticize Reese for not going need with inferior talents and going BPA (which literally means best talent avail)
Antrel was the best S in the market, and you HAVE TO OVERPAY IN FA. This was directly after the CC Brown experiment.
Baas was the best C in the market. This was directly after Seubert/OHara/Boothe/Koets injured.
Boley was the best OLB in the market. Directly after Kawika Mitchell.
Canty was the best DT in the market. Directly after Fred Robbins.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
And i'd argue that
Rolle – not playing any semblance of the position he was coveted for
Baas – jury’s still out but his run blocking seems quite suspect
Boley – Injury riddled early on, has had a great year IMO
Canty – is very underrated, perhaps doesn’t quite earn his salary but he has had 2 solid years
I mean what more can you ask for in the FA market? FAs don’t win you super bowls in the NFL (ala the Eagles)
I agree completely.
As for Baas, he had a neck injury early on, so that might be contributing to poor play. In preseason, if you remember, he was driving people back and pancaking mofos. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets shut down for the rest of the year.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
JR should have gave some of that money to Barry
Run stoping has not been the same since he left
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Kudos to all of you guys...
Kudos to Giants fans that stick with and stick up for what appears to be a seriously flawed team.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I'm exhausted
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha!!
I’m tired from wasting all this beer on those clowns…My water bill is going to be through the roof this month from all the leaks I’ve had to take..I pissed enough to water the grass at the Meadowlands for a month..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Just keep drinking, it will make it all better...

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Reminds me of a t-shirt I have...
The front has a picture of a pirate’s Jolly Rogers flag. The back reads, “Gentlemen, the drinking will continue until morale improves”. I pretty much think this is where we are at.
There I go again!!! hahaha!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hey...Beer is the only thing keeping me calm
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I was thinking the same exact thing
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I'm just remembering now...
Didn’t MMs route that led to the INT happen right after a huge play to Cruz? Yes…I remember thinking when they lined up for the next play after the big gain that they were going to turn the ball over. How sad is that? Yesterday was one of those games where when something great happened it was immediately balanced by a horrible play. It was just one of those days.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
I must say those pics of TC after this game were sad to see...
He truly looked like a disppointed, broken man..when I looked at them I had te.. in my ey..
No I had to go take a piss that’s it !!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think TC at least expected his team to show up and play
But when a coach get’s that type of effort on Sunday and didn’t have a clue it would happen from the week of practice, I have to wonder if TC has a finger on the team’s pulse. He is as clueless as us when it comes to what kind of effort the Giants are going to give
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah in all seriousness it was hard to watch..
The lackluster play is taking its toll on him..I wonder how much influence he has over Fewell..I beginning to wonder what if any say he has on who his DC should be.?..I saw him and that jerk go at it last year during a game and it looked liked Fewell just dissed him..on the sideline..If he had any control over who he has as assistants I would think he’d have already shit-canned Fewell and promoted Flaherty..as an interim DC..afterall, Flahaerty works miracles with that O-line..I think TC is mandated to the coaches he has..Maybe I’m wrong but I kinda sense that..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Wow! This team is psychologically fragile! Very little self esteme. One dropped pass and the air goes out of the balloon?
The fans seem to mirror their team. Listening to the Redskins feed on radio. The announcers asked numerous times if the guys on the field could hear any noise. None. It was evident on the radio. Swiched to another game. Although the home team was loosing by 20 the noise was intense.
Blame ownership
They built that DUD of a stadium and filled it up with wine drinking snobs
That ain't a stadium..Its an old air conditioning unit..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
JPP had them fired up untill all the other players made one mistake after another..
JPP can’t fire a crowd up by himself..the rest of those morons need to play also…Poor kid was waving his arms for noise..and everybody else stunk..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
You would think the fans would know to make noise on D anyway though.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Not if you have no faith they can get a stop and suck monkey balls
The crowd tried to get into it but the D couldn’t get off the field after a while you are just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Why are you still talking about the D??
Did you watch the game….the D got off the field a few times, they had two bad drives…. they had two early picks and a few 3 and outs after that.
What was the score at the end of the first half?? Ill tell you who had no problem getting off the field yesterday! Our offense. Now lets just be fair, the expectations for our defense at this point are not great and shouldnt be but damn they gave the ball to our so called high powered offense and nothing happened at all!!!!!
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
35 min top fot the Skins
We were lucky they decided to run the ball the whole second half or the D would have given up 50
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Shoulda coulda woulda
But what actually happened……. and tell me what did the offense put up through 3 and a half quarters
You do realize that even if the Defense would have kept them at 14 points, we would have still lost right??
Or maybe even 7, we scored 3 points basically bro.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
Does it matter
This D sucked yesterday and all year. If Eli has a bad day we lose. Simple fact.
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Yes it does matter.
in the context of yesterdays game…..sure does.
Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!
Skydiving?Forgot your parachute? TUCK AND ROLLE! On fire? TUCK AND ROLLE Got shot? TUCK AND ROLLE Lost your car keys? TUCK AND ROLLE Failed that history test? TUCK AND ROLLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SuCwrZrNQM&feature=related
There's your sign..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I think the Giants mis-took the football for an endangered Turtle...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
true
The noise just held alot better in the old stadium as well. They need to add a roof over the stands like in Seattle- that reflects the noise all over the stadium.
we also used to win in the old stadium
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Team being down is one thing
Team not showing any emotions or trying is quite diffrent. I could hear the fan’s booing so they were doing what they were supposed to. Bottom line is the Giants forgot to show up to the game yesterday, why are we discussing the fans who are totally disgusted by the teams effort.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well you can't blame fans for looking at shitty play from the team..
But I sense the crowd they have now id different from when I had tickets..in those days the crowd never quieted….Now a few 3 and outs and the place shuts down…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
ESPN finally got a decent game to broadcast tonight...
Jaws and Gruden are probably waxing their carrots..Finally a real game !!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Hahaha!!!..never use hot wax!!
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
They better check this dude's package
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
You need a rake to clean it off the grass.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say that anyone who would do something like
probably wasn’t using it anyway.
Team Ghost: Manningham, Sintim, Beckum, Barden, JPP, Anvil, Ross
Tom Coughlin: "Respect all. Fear none."
But he will not be able to reproduce....
so Darwin was right.
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Play Barden as #3! He is from Cal Poly and seems to run disciplined routes. Let's really see what we have before the end of the season.
BTW is Ballard out?
Mario
Nope, Old man Coughlin will not give him the chance. But Mario will be gone next season so it should be Barden’s job.
yeah thats a way to look at it
That is a nice diverse group of WRs Eli will have next season. They all do different things well.
Ballard goes for an MRI today..We'll know more about injuries tommorrow.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Ballard needs to learn to...
Lower his body before contact. he has a tendancy to run upright. The play he was hurt on he was a huge target.
by Jimmy Orange on Dec 19, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
the barden issue
I don’t get it? he’s good enough to play 1-3 snaps a game but that’s it?
Fire Fewell
Since they drafted him
I have been clamoring for him to get a chance. Every chance he has had (few as they have been) he succeeded.
Yeah I've bee grumbling about that all season long..They should be able to get him in there more than they have
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I posted this above
but it pisses me off so much I want to say it again. In 3yrs, how do you not find a way to give a talented 6’6" WR endzone shots? He would be tough to stop on a slant or a fade or a flat out jump ball. This is the type of shit where the coaching staff is fail.
by G-FANinFL on Dec 19, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
99% out of 100
After the first loss to Washington, Rolle makes the comment on how 99% of the games against the Skins’, Giants would come out on top. Hmmmmm we’re 0-2 this year.
It's still GIANTS Stadium
Obiously he's not very good at Math either..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Football is 50% mental....
50% physical
50% hard work
Thank you Professor Rolle
by Jimmy Orange on Dec 19, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle's responds to you
That only adds up to 125%, what is wrong with that?
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 19, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody know the single game record for tackles by a defensive lineman?
He wasn’t too far from Zach Thomas, London Fletcher and Rodney Harrison’s 20 tackle performances in the past and they’re linebackers or box safeties.
I never ever miss a game, but....
I played paintball all day yesterday. Best decision ever. I’ll take a day in the woods getting hunted by a bunch of dudes from Camden over watching my favorite sports team poop their diapers.
Hope your uniform was cleaner than Eli's

I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
My bogus work computer (dell) couldnt load your GIF
But yeah, im sure i was cleaner than Eli after he was gang-r*ped by O-rape-ko and Nancy Kerrigan.
by jerseydevildog on Dec 19, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE
the Sun in your eyes….and it only cost 1.6 billion….NICE JOB. In the old days they played in less ‘fancy’ stadiums and the players used lamp black.
WW for Tom throwing the challenge flag again 3 for 10 this year
Is Tom soooooooooo loyal that he keeps thew guy who tells him to throw the challenge flag? That guy sucks!
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Yeah if whoever that guy his he has telling to throw the flag was a Nascar spotter..the driver would crash
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
that guy prob. got a 3-D tv and is screwing up the reviews upstairs...
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
Thanks for reminding me!
What the F*ck was THAT? Seriously…what the f*ck have these jackasses been looking at all year. The challenge decisions have been HORRIBLE! They challenge the most obvious shit. Not only do they lose the challenges but I’m forces to sit there and listen to the commentators say “what was he thinking” for 5 minutes. I wish someone would just slap the shit out of whoever is making those calls.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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wasnt that PI?
ware was basically mugged. they didnt call anythign yesterday
They have become acts of desperation..Not sound decisions..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
that's what I was beginning to think of them...
TC hoping to catch a break here and there
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
This would be funnier than shit.."The Giants are challenging the ruling on the about whether they in fact scored an actual touchdown"...
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
worse, if the Refs actually botched that too
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
it's defintely a Mental thing
this team can compete if they have focus, determination, heart and desire…
even with the injuries, we saw it against New England, GB, Eagles (first game), and Cowboys….
they are just mentally ‘SOFT & WEAK’
you can tell,
just look at their expressions during the game, blown coverages, assignments that are too much to list down…
for every 1 great play, they screw up like 5 more…
for every 1 great effort game, they have like 4 bad ones…
I think they are full of themselves too often and not trying to go more about their business and focus.
Hence all the excuses, “We are better than that, we will learn from it and get better, yada yada yada”…
They just all need to STFU and play REAL football and follow JPP’s lead. Just WORK.
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
Right...
The biggest thing I take issue with is that after giving up a big play it looks like they don’t give a shit.
Are they relying on Eli bringing them back at the last minute? Is that the plan? Let’s play shitty defense because we have Eli Manning and he wants to win…that’s perfect.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
First rule change
No player sits on the sidelines until we have the lead.
Second rule change…No player sits on the sidelines when we have the lead because they are either meeting with their coach or cheering their fellow teammates on….
I got a GIF for that!
by Fester McDougal on Dec 19, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'd support both of those changes. At least we would get the impression that they give a shit.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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Third rule change...
Linval Joseph sits on Perry Fewell and makes him do atomic sit-ups while some dude named Vinny from hoboken calls the defensive plays from his $800 seat in the stadium.
by jerseydevildog on Dec 19, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in favor of those rules too...
they need to be pissed off, play with anger ala the Real LT
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
osi
i believe he has played his last play for the giants. and i think thats prob who antrell was talking about.
no i dont think we will
think he’s a straight cut
obviously they will try to trade him first...
and i’m sure they’ll be able to get something rather than cut him and get nothing.
what is reasonable to assume
5th rounder or worse?
Resse
needs 5 defensive ends. He won’t trade Osi for anything but a first
by The Cole Train on Dec 19, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
then osi will be on our team next year
no one giving a 1st for him
esp. when he doesn't make play saving tackles, or completely whiffs at them
he needs to change his avg of whiffs per game from 2 or 3 down to 0 before he opens his mouth again…
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
Rolle
is paid like an All Pro, talks like he’s an all time great, plays average AT BEST
by Cruz Control on Dec 19, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
not milking
dogging it. he is paying back reese and co for not recutting a deal he definitely didnt deserve. he’s a mercenary. good riddance.
he's a pussy -- plain and simple
he had a diva-type playing style. flashy, finesse pass rusher who was a liability against the run and got injured every year.
Osi finally started playing the run a lil better last year.....
So he cried for a new contract. Desean Jackson only does half his job and wants to get paid like the other guys that actually play their position the right way.
by jerseydevildog on Dec 19, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
maybe Osi is afraid
of looking bad with JPP playing out of his mind. In year 2, JPP is already a better run defender than Osi and to be honest, might be better pass rusher right now too. Osi is mad because he wanted to get paid AGAIN before the league figures out he’s not that good anymore.
by bgn1987 on Dec 19, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dropped Passes
I keep hearing Cruz dropped a pass yesterday….. I saw him make an acrobatic catch on a ball thrown behind him over the middle, I saw him interfered with when he got behind the d back (no call) and I saw a ball thrown high & wide go off his fingertips …..where is the ‘drop’….did I miss something?
Deangelo Hall on Kevin Killdrive:
“We pretty much kind of have a feel for what they like to do.” Went on to say that that’s typically “hard” to know.
Fire Fewell
he tried to make us feel good with the "hard" comment, huh...
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
The fade that MM ran the wrong route on is a perfect example of this
The DB knew the play better then MM SMHS
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
That was amazing..calling a fade and the idiot doesn't run a fade...gawd
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Makes you wonder....
…..how hard Eli will push to keep him a Giant. He has to be frustrated with Ham…….I know that I am.
Quinn must go !!
same for Fewell
The Giants are a very easy team to gameplan for.
Coughlin
All I keep thinking of with people cheering that Coughlin will likely get fired is Ray Handley. So let’s just rush out to fire our career winning coach to hope the next guy doesn’t run our team into the ground for the next 10 years. And Cowher? Sure, maybe we can bring him in so in 15 years he can get his second SB win.
Well would you like to have a second half collaspe AGAIN next season?
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Well
Is a possible second half collapse and still being in playoff contention better than going 4-12 for the next 8 years? Sure. I am dreading a new coach because so many coaches brought into the league now have been awful. Bringing in a “proven winner” like Cowher guarentees nothing, just ask Dan Reeves.
by Midnight Blue on Dec 19, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
#3years of collapses
Thats enough for me. Let’s try something else. This is not working. I will take my chances with a new coach
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
i believe Mara agrees with you
question is, how deep is the gash? just HC? DC? OC? the whole lot of em?
HC DC ST at the very least
After that let the new guy figure out the rest
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
Wow Midnight, you really know how to kill a party
If things weren’t bad enough, you had to pour some Ray Handlley in the red solo cup. I’m damn near sick to my stomach now.
Quinn must go !!
Sorry
I just still have nightmares about the lost 90s. That was early in my football watching career and it’s like a trauma reaction to immediately think that when I hear “new head coach”.
by Midnight Blue on Dec 19, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
While those years were frustrating...
I feel just as frustrated watching these guys. We have some great players but I’m getting sick of hearing how great Eli Manning is even if the team he is on is 8-8 and can’t make the playoffs. Eli is playing the best ball of his career and it’s being wasted on a team with no offensive line. If Eli could rely on his defense stopping anyone or a consistent running game this team would be “playoff bound”. He doesn’t have that though so we are reduced to cheering Eli’s great play on weeks when the Giants lose due to breakdowns at every other position.
I’m sorry but it doesn’t matter is Eli breaks every offensive record in history while the team misses the playoffs 3 years in a row.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Ballard
starting to drop balls, commit penalties and break down physically
he gets a big wet willie yest
drive killing penalties and drops. i think this is what is known as “regression to the mean”
and people wonder why i always replied with: Boss
when people who always make the “Kevin who?” posts.
Fire Fewell
Boss had the most drops by a TE last year
Just sayin’
"Sometimes you make a mistake and you get hit in the head." - Eli Manning
TOM to go
What do u guys think of this, Head Coach Gruden and D.C. Spaggs
by BIGblueintheface on Dec 19, 2011 2:09 PM EST reply actions
I just like seeing Spags at DC
bleh with Gruden, but at least it will be a different staff
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
goodluck trying to get that!
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
i personally think
that if the eagles part ways with their DC, spags will go there first
reid is not their DC..Castillo is gone
Eagles D would be scary with Spags at the helm.
I have a bad feeling about that too...
God, I hope he picks NY if he gets dropped by the Rams
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
What would make him Choose NY. Eagles on defense are stacked with talent. We are stacked with maybes
we got some talent that were injured this year as well
I think you are over-rating Eagles defensive talent just like Vince Young did when he dubbed them the dream team…
Their CBs are good to great coverage guys if used properly, I would agree there, but they still shy away from hard tackles…
Decent LB core, and 2 guys on the DL, that’s it.
They have talent, they do, I give you that, but they aren’t the cream of the crop and the Giants at full strength can rival them just as much.
He could also possibly chose NY b/c well, he’s worked with TC before, and knows a lot more of the personnel and everything else. It’s been a while since he’s been at Philly. Plus, if NY does clean house and let TC go, he can MAYBE become NY’s next HC. Why not go to NY???
It’s still more 50/50 then you think.
I can't figure out Perry Fool...
ahh... the Knicks will save my winter :)
welcome BDiddy, can't wait till you get healthy and start ballin' again.
I agree
Any GOOD DC should want to take over the Eagles defense because there is no denying that they are all talented but lack someone with vision to lead them.
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
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running backs
can’t blame bradshaw/jacobs, they hardly got the ball. after finally establishing some resemblance of a running game the last few weeks, the start of this game (pass pass pass) further proves that gilbride (or whoever is calling the plays) is a whackjob.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Its 3rd and 2
I have a 250 Lb RB who is running well again or I have an elusive quick rb who is running well again.
I have a big and improved run blocking O line with Petrus and Boothe,
I call a 50 yard GO route!
Who am I ?
And then......
it hits me in both hands and pops out and falls to the floor, who am i?
by BIGblueintheface on Dec 19, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
understood
but why call that high risk play when you need a short gain?
That play was a good call..caught them by surprise..the problem was it wasn't caught..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
I agree...
They can’t hide behind the “we were playing from behind” excuse this time because they weren’t getting blown out late in this game. They just abandoned the run. Why?
nywins42 needs a new screen name - "nywins46" sounds great!
Just ordered FatHeads for all available Giants. Now I have something to aim at when punching holes in my wall.
Ware got more touches then either of them. WTF is going on?
Why is Tom Quinn still here? I loves me some Coach Clawfin.
My Wishes for Christmas
ok if it comes true next summer too
1. New Head Coach
2. New OC and DC
3. Trade Osi and Rolle for draft picks.
4. Good Drafting by Reese
for all this to happen I’m ok to forego this season….I dont believe in ths co-ordinators.
one more thing to notice where are the hard core ELI bashers after 3 INT game….. funny people…. funny world….
You forgot
New ST coach.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Tom Quinn Must Go!
It is equally worthless when people are always optimistic or always pessimistic. Either way I take their opinion with a pound of salt because I know they only have one setting. I post my own thoughts, not what either side wants to read.
by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 19, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
So how many 'feet' of rushing yards do you all think we'll rack up against the Rex Jets?..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Every time it's a third down, the D lines up - and they look like their back on their heels
compare that to aggressive teams like Steelers, Eagles, even Washington. You know the pressure is coming but you don’t know where. Exact opposite for Giants. QB on third down knows he is going to have all day.
I mean if i am teams and your are on our side of the 50 i go for it on 4th downs.that is short yardage you probably make it around 75% of the time. If we struggled against the skins defense I just hope we can swim against the jets Defense.Eli is going to have to air it out this weekend as usual to win. This plays right into Rex’s D hands. Eli please do not test out Revis just stay away from him.
Either way fans we need a big change/changes in the off season. Time to cut away some of this dead weight in the team.
Man I feel like I'm coming down from a Bender and I wasn't even drunk
I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the Redskins Kicked our arses and freakin swept us. Now I got here Rex Ryan yapping about being the best team in NY, this is going to be a long short week.
by Late for Dinner on Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM EST reply actions

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